Callaway Enters Premium Market with Epic Irons
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Callaway Enters Premium Market with Epic Irons
“Groundbreaking Innovation without Boundaries”

I’m having a bit of a Yogi Berra moment today. It’s Déjà vu all over again.

The CEO of a golf equipment company challenges his head of R&D to find a way to build the kind of iron that’s never been built before. Create a dream iron of sorts; no limits on time, materials or cost.

USGA shackles aside, performance with absolutely no restrictions.

Sound familiar?

Nope, I’m not talking about PXG – although there’s an argument to be made that we’re seeing yet another example of The PXG Effect. Parallels with the PXG story and last season’s release of the Titleist C16 are undeniable.

This time around the CEO is Callaway’s Chip Brewer, the R&D guy is Alan Hocknell, Callaway’s SVP of R&D, and “Alan’s iron,” as it came to be known during development, is Callaway’s new Epic Pro.

Prices start at $250 per iron, leaving little doubt that Callaway intends on entering, and if all goes well, impacting in the growing performance at a price segment of the golf equipment market. PXG may be chipping away at the mainstream, but that market’s biggest player is ready to chip back.

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Epic Technology…in an Iron

While the cost will certainly raise eyebrows – let’s be real, $250 per is a big ask for a mainstream brand – Callaway thinks it has something special on its hands, and that’s not the only thing the Epic iron has in common with its namesake driver.

Like Callaway’s best-selling Epic Driver, the Epic (and Epic Pro) iron features Exo Cage construction with stiffening pieces that directly connect the topline and sole. Callaway isn’t calling it Jailbreak technology in iron, but there are similarities. As it does in the driver, the connection stiffens the body to create energy lensing which allows the face to flex more and directs more energy back into the ball. The result is higher ball speeds.

Other elements of the design borrow from the current Steelhead irons (and previous Callaway models). Epic’s weight-saving hollow hosel body is attached to an improved 360 Face Cup, which helps retain ball speed on off-center hits. Worth noting, this is the first time Callaway has used its Face Cup technology in a pro series iron.

The updated design allows for a face that’s less than 1mm thick at its thinnest point, and consistently at 1mm for a significant portion of the lower part of the face, creating greater flexibility on off-center strikes. According to Callaway tolerances for thickness across the face are an impressive 1/1000 of an inch.

MIM?

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Epic deviates from previous designs with the introduction of Metal-Injection Molding. The process involves baking a mixture of tungsten and steel powder at 2500° Fahrenheit for 51 hours, to create precisely weighted and positioned internal plugs that aren’t entirely dissimilar from the weights used in Titleist’s JP Wedges). The weights are then used internally as part of the Epic iron’s improved Internal Standing Wave design.

Roughly 30% of the head weight in the Epic 3-8 irons comes from the MIM’d Tungsten. The ratio of tungsten to steel, as well as the size, shape, and precise placement weight varies from iron to iron, depending on the loft. As you would expect, weight is pushed low in the long irons to promote higher trajectory, and a bit higher in the short irons to promote more control in the short irons.

Rest assured, this isn’t a lifestyle play. It’s not bedazzled version of the same ol’ same ol’ designed to entice a fool to part with his money. “These are absolutely NOT niche products,” says Harry Arnett, Callaway’s SVP of Marketing and Brand Management. “These are the highest performance products we know how to make.”

And making this product is intensive. Each piece of the Epic iron is precisely milled. In total, there are over 200 individual processes, including approximately 1800 steps and 280 quality control checkpoints. Each part is touched by more than 100 operators and technicians during the manufacturing process.

Pros Before…

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One of the more interesting parts of the Epic Iron story is that, unlike most designs where a standard model is downsized to create a pro version, the Epic began started with a pro model, and that made meeting the performance goals a bit more challenging, and the results more rewarding.

This has been a fabulous experience to design exactly the iron that I would want and have it be an iron that really is bristling with firsts in terms of technologies we’ve been able to bring to product form for the first time. – Alan Hocknell

Taking all that nebulous stuff about uncharted design and creating the perfect iron off the table for a moment, the quantifiable performance goal for the Epic iron was to create a pro/player’s iron that would meet or exceed the performance of Callaway’s Apex iron – the standard model.

That’s not an easy task, but Callaway claims Epic Pro exceeds Apex standard’s ball speed by .5 MPH. It’s not a massive number, but it’s important to remain cognizant of the fact that we’re comparing a player’s iron to game-improvement iron, though it’s worth noting, the lofts are equivalent.

When the standard Epic iron model is compared to standard Apex model, Callaway says Epic is about a half a club longer.

As you might expect, some of that additional distance is attributable to stronger lofts. Other design differences are also what you’d expect. The standard Epic iron has a thicker topline, a wider sole, more offset, and a larger face.

Beyond that, Callaway isn’t overselling the differences. It’s a choice between an iron that’s compact and workable (Epic Pro) and one that’s larger, more forgiving, and a little longer (Epic standard).

Available off the Rack, but Designed for Fitting

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Another interesting aspect of the Callaway Epic Iron release is that, unlike Titleist’s C16, there won’t be any forced scarcity, and unlike PXG (and the C16), Epic irons won’t be exclusive to premium fitting locations.

Callaway isn’t altering its distribution model in the least for Epic irons. While big box buyers may elect not to put Epic in all their stores, Callaway Epic irons should be available most anywhere Callaway clubs are sold. In that respect, we’re still talking about a mainstream off-the-rack offering.

Given the price point, however, it’s reasonable to assume (or at least hope) that the majority of Epic irons sets will be sold through Callaway’s fitting partners. I mean, seriously, who spends 2k on irons without getting fitted?

So, to better accommodate what should reasonably be a more fitting-centric sales model, Callaway is taking an approach that it previously reserved for the tour.

In addition to what I suppose we’d call standard weight heads, Callaway Epic irons will also be available in +5 and -5 gram versions. The idea is to allow custom fitters more flexibility to accommodate a wider variety of shafts, grips, and target swing weights without having to resort to tip weights, tungsten powder, or less elegant solutions like lead tape.

Between the tighter tolerances and flexible head weight options, I’d wager enough to buy a set of Epic irons that Epic will quickly become a darling among club fitters – especially if it lives up to its billing and holds its own against other premium priced performance-driven offerings.

Where Epic Fits

I’ve been wrong before, but I’d be shocked, absolutely, positively shocked, if Epic becomes anything close to Callaway’s best-seller, Apex remains immensely popular (and half the price), and Steelhead is currently the best-selling iron model on the market. At last check, Callaway has a 27% share of the iron market (#1 in the category), so it’s not like it’s desperate for sales.

Described by Alan Hocknell as Concept Car-type technology, Epic gives Callaway a premium flagship offering, the kind of club that says look what’s possible when the handcuffs come off. With that comes added cost.

That level of innovation, that level of technology, the level of performance is worthy of that higher price.  – Alan Hocknell

The RBZ Trap?

From nearly any perspective – price, technology, market success, the Epic line represents the pinnacle of modern Callaway technology, and that’s enough to make me wonder if Callaway could be approaching its RBZ moment.

Where does it go from here?

On the positive side, it hasn’t over-saturated the market, it’s not relying on deep discounts to move its products, and it’s not showing any signs of running out of ideas. Callaway has nearly all the momentum in the golf equipment industry, but we can’t forget that others who have had best-selling products, massive market share, and all the momentum have been tripped up by a deceptively difficult question.

What’s next?

For what it’s worth, Harry Arnett likes his team’s product and innovation road map, and I suspect Callaway is going to take a conservative approach to managing the Epic franchise. I’d bet on 18-24 month product cycles, no discounting along the way, and a fresh round of excitement when the time is right to refresh the line.

But like I said, I’ve been wrong before.

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Specs, Pricing & Availability

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Epic Irons are available in 3-SW, and Epic Pro irons are available in 3-AW. Both models will be available for both right and left-handed golfers.

Stock steel shafts are Project X LZ 95 (standard) and Project X LZ 105 Pro. UST Recoil 760 and Recoil 780ES are your graphite options.

The stock grip is Golf Pride’s New Decade Multi-Compound.

Retail price is $250/iron steel and $280/iron graphite.

Pre-Order begins 6/2 with retail availability starting 6/16.

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      Brian G

      7 years ago

      I hit them , they were not any longer than my 2016 Apex pro’s , nor any more accurate than apex pro .
      I do have black apex limited as well at my florida home . They are longer than the new epic pros . I usually buy new irons every year or two , I will stick to my apex pros right now there is no reason to change at all !!!!!!!!

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      Rodrigo

      7 years ago

      I like the looks, not the price.
      I bet, they use similar build technology as Taylormade M1/M2’s … for twice the price.

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      Charlie

      7 years ago

      How am I going to swing these clubs when I have to give up an arm and a leg to pay for them!?!

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      Rory

      7 years ago

      Hmmmm

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      Oldplayer

      7 years ago

      What a lot of baloney.
      You would have to have rocks in your head to swallow this latest marketing pitch of why the new “best ever” are worth $250 an iron.

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      Todd Stuart

      7 years ago

      Lots of good comments and bad ones too. Its great to live in a free market society where we can choose what we want/need from the options available to us. Great companies/products along with marketing seem to always elevate themselves to the top. But to stay on top requires innovation and change. There are so many examples of companies that were on top but failed to make the changes to keep themselves relevant, and thus, they have been passed by. Good for Callaway trying to keep relevant amid all the golf product offerings available to us. The market will determine the winners and losers

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      Rekklss

      7 years ago

      Has anyone looked at the loft gaps with these fugly irons ? Gap between 2 & 3 irons are 2.5°. At the bottom end the gap is 5°. The 9 iron loft matches my PW loft but their 3 iron loft matches my 2 iron loft. Looking forward to the yardage gaps between clubs.

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      David Modeer

      7 years ago

      If anyone thinks paying $3000+ for a set of irons is going to make you a better golfer….I have a bridge to sell you also!

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      Jon

      7 years ago

      The super premium iron market is all about selling the sizzle and not the steak. The perceived difference produced by a super premium iron is very marginal. The cost difference is anything but marginal.

      The cost factor is really going to be a problem in this market not just initially but more so as this market matures. One of the OEM’s goals to maximize their volume, regardless of price range, is to get their customers to perceive irons as consumables that need to be replaced by something better as often as possible.

      Meeting that goal in the super premium iron market is going to be a tough sell. The number of customers that will buy a $2,000 set of irons is small. The number that will buy a second set a few years later has to be quite a bit smaller still. This does not seem to be a sustainable model.

      With that in mind, unless the real and perceived advantage to a super premium iron is much greater than it is today, this market will have a hard time getting any bigger.

      PXG jump started the super premium iron market. They generally created a niche that only they served. Every manufacturer regardless of product craves creating a monopoly market. PXG had this position and thrived.

      The entrance of the Epic could, on the margins, expand this market, perhaps giving it some additional legitimacy. However, this market is limited so the most likely scenario is that Callaway and PXG will simply carve up the market that is there. Any additional players that enter will carve it up even further.

      To the big OEM’s this is just another market segment to compete in, to PXG it is their life blood

      This doesn’t end well for PXG.

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      David St.Clair

      7 years ago

      Not for me they’re not 2k. Can’t afford them. Three or four years from now on EBay. :)

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      TonyL

      7 years ago

      There are suckers with too much money out there everywhere.

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      Shane VandeKerkhof

      7 years ago

      The PXG effect begins…

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      Come On!

      7 years ago

      Seriously! $250ea. for a jacked up GI iron. Epic marketing Bullsh!t. Callaway is a joke. The next Epic fail in golf!

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      Kyle Morris

      7 years ago

      How much were the GBB Tungsten Titanium irons in the late 90’s?

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      Ted falconer

      7 years ago

      I’m happy with my Mizuno mp25’s spend away!! They just look large and over done.

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      Nick Aquilino

      7 years ago

      I have been working with golf patents for at least 45 years and I have seen a lot of iron designs over these years, some of which have made an impact in the market place. At one time I wrote a patent on the number 1 golf iron in the business that was being marketed by Mizuno.
      Almost all irons since the introduction of the Ping cavity backs many years ago, except for the tour type blades, were and still are a variation of perimeter weighted clubs that provide a little more forgiveness when a golf ball is miss hit away from the center of percussion.

      Despite the advertising hype, there is little evidence that one club is significantly better than another. A current trend is to decrease the loft on numbered irons in order that a player can hit the numbered clubs farther than competitive irons having the same number. I once had a client who came into my office all excited saying his wedge was able to hit a golf ball 140 yards. My response was what club do you hit at 115 yards and he just looked at me like a deer in the headlights.

      So as a couple of the comment have pointed out, the only thing that matters with a golf iron is knowing how far it goes when the ball is struck with reasonable precision. If I have dollar store 7 iron that I always hit 150 yards I am no worse off that someone who has a $250 club that hits it the same distance. Truth is you usually can’t buy a better game once the golfer has a set of clubs that is a good fit for his/her body type and swing speed among other factors. The idea that every couple of months there is a new set that is the greatest and better than the last greatest set makes no sense.

      Occasionally there are advances in technology that are game improvement clubs. I wrote the patent on the EVNROLL putter and that particular piece of equipment has been scientifically shown to produce better results but these are few and far between. Bottom line is the $2000 plus set is not likely to be any better than most store or pro shop clubs and likely not as good as custom fitted clubs. The only upside I can see is showing fellow golfers you have money to burn…………………

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      Darryl Yee

      7 years ago

      No thanks. I just got my Mizunos for half that.

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      Michael Olivio

      7 years ago

      For $2k, I’d expect a club I could stand to look at. This is just BAD.

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      Bob Bowman

      7 years ago

      $2K? For a set of clubs?

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      Bob Bowman

      7 years ago

      …for that money, I can get three tattoos, a hooker and two dives…and a nice craft beer. I win!

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      Michael Olivio

      7 years ago

      bet I could still hook one of these into the pond

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      DL

      7 years ago

      I can’t wait for MGS to compare Steelhead to Apex to Epic. Any bets on whether Callaway sends the sets in for comparison or if MGS has to purchase them to run the test…

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      Denny L

      7 years ago

      Yes! will I buy them No!

      But, I will hit them in the Sim against the Steelheads and Apex and Select one of them simply because I won’t be able to justify the minimal difference, and I’m the majority, not minority.

      However, Callaway may not care that I, nor the majority are the target market for this set of clubs and that’s perfectly fine. I’m glad they didn’t force this on us as their replacement to Apex or Steelheads, it’s an option and there are a number of folks fully capable of not having to justify their purchases to anyone, and certainly not the inner voice. So to them I say Hoo Ra!
      This target crowd has a history of dumping $100K+ cars that depreciate $30K in a year just to have the new model that goes 0-60 in .1 Second faster.
      The plain truth is, It’s never been about the #’s after all, they’ve been buying $400+ drivers promising 21 – 27ft. every 4 months for years. it’s about the status, even if it means monthly payments to a few of the fewer.
      D

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      Scott Nichols

      7 years ago

      I’ll take Srixon irons for half the price, they’re simply incredible for the money.

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      Sherman Welch

      7 years ago

      I’ve been a Callaway fan for years but I won’t be buying a set of these irons. I can’t blame Callaway for making them because I’m sure they will sell a lot of them.

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      TWSHoot67

      7 years ago

      Yes PXG has officially started a NEW trend in the golf club making business. People with too much money want to spend it and thus EPIC irons at a slightly less price then PXG. Callaway says; look he’s git some money and he doesn’t want to pay for lessons, he wants to try and buy his game…… FISH ON!

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      Bob Ostenfeld

      7 years ago

      No way!! True rip off!!

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      Ian Anderson

      7 years ago

      These look horrible tho

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      Russell Mattingly

      7 years ago

      wow its not hard to figure why people dont play anymore

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      Mike

      7 years ago

      So this comment probably has already been made. Just didn’t have the patience to read through all the posts. What it really comes down to is performance. Do they REALLY preform better then all the other clubs on the market at half the price? PLEASE, this is not a slam against Cally. But I have to believe that “most” of the golfing public will be performance driven when it comes to a $2,000 set of irons. Yea, we will have gotta have the latest and greatest stuff buyers, and the status symbol buyers, but what percent of the buying public is that? Now we have another “high end” option, great. How. If is this market? Can’t believe ultimately some will be driven from the market due to cost considerations. Cally’s now a player, ok, so is this a short lived phenom? I guess at worst we get to have MGS tell us who is really the best preformer? Great for all of us.

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      dandaman

      7 years ago

      My assumption is they will wait a few months and then drop a chromed out version of exactly the same irons which will better provide the exclusive player look these should’ve been released with to begin with. Their most devoted fanboys (who had somehow already justified buying these Epics) will drool all over themselves and drop another 2 grand on the chrome version. Callaway does that kind of crap ALL THE TIME now.

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      Lyndon Galbraith

      7 years ago

      Just buy Mizuno’s and be done with your irons…or the forged Srixons

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      ScottC

      7 years ago

      I do not understand the uproar over the pricing. We all have a choice as to how we spend our money. Just like with every other good or service we purchase.

      Callaway is not crazy to offer them, just as neither PXG nor Titleist are for their high dollar offerings. It is just business. It proves they can design a club and use high tech manufacturing techniques to create a unique, but high end, product.

      Some folks will run out and order a set right away. Some folks will never buy them. I prefer to buy what fits my game, but at a price point that I am comfortable with. Sometimes that is new equipment, sometimes it is gently used equipment.

      I work at local golf tournaments and notice that most of the better players use irons that are a few years old (Titleist AP2’s 714-716’s, in 65-70% of the bags) and drivers that a bit newer. When asked about that, they all tell me they are comfortable with their clubs and know exactly what to expect from them. Sound advice for most of us.

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      joro

      7 years ago

      I got you point but having been in the Business for many years it is getting like the Utilities or Gas. One raises it’s price to ridiculous and they others follow. No production club is worth that much unless it is fitted down to nitty gritty. But, as PT Barnum said,,,,,,,,

      But then again it is the buyers money. Hope it pays off for them. As you said better players and Pros play the ones they are used to and very seldom use a new set for long before going back. It is called marketing.

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      Randy Oaks

      7 years ago

      That’s ok pick some up on eBay for 1/2 price within 6mo of release , if you want them that bad. 2k, no way. Stick to my Pings

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      Alex

      7 years ago

      All I can say is they look good and I will try them out.
      if they work i will have to buy them.
      even at that price in new zealand $350 an iron if they $250 in the US

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      David Evans

      7 years ago

      And then they came, after PXG domination

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      Ty Weber

      7 years ago

      They look like big plastic clubs for kids. No thanks!

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      Bud O’Guynn

      7 years ago

      Are they trying to take golf back 50 years, only for the 1 percent!?

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      Chris Washington

      7 years ago

      Dumb move by Callaway.

      1. Positions all their other products as “less than” driving down the value of those clubs. 2. It’s extremely difficult to take a mid-market company up-market. Not many people will buy a $50,000 Kia even if it’s as good as other $50,000 cars. 3. Promoting these clubs in the same way PXG and other upscale brands do makes Callaway look like a follower. (They are.)

      I guess time will tell.

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      ole gray

      7 years ago

      If I had two extra grand laying around for golf clubs, I’d still go with the Callaway Steel heads. They look much better and would perform well enough where I would never realize the difference. You folks who have plenty of money and like new shiny expensive things, have at it. Callaway makes great irons IMO so maybe they decided to go after the elite golfing crowd.

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      Pete

      7 years ago

      What is it with people on how clubs look? I could care less, it’s what the club can do is far more important! Looks do NOT win you games!

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      Larry Williams

      7 years ago

      Looks like an M2 clone

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      Mark Viloria

      7 years ago

      I hit the Titleist c16s last week and they are butter. You get what you pay for. If I had the money I would spend on something that would make me enjoy the game more.

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      Robolo610

      7 years ago

      Wow, I can’t believe the vitriol from all of these comments. Who really cares, the free market will determine if these are a success or not. Anyone remember years ago when Tommy Armour came out the Ti100 all titanium irons. They looked like a shovel on a stick, can you say flop. I hope these irons take off so Callaway will make a ton of them, then I can buy them on ebay in 6-8 months for less than half of retail.

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      Matt

      7 years ago

      Can you expand upon what you meant by Callaway having their “RBZ moment”. I’m not familiar with this analogy. Nice article by the way.

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      Walter

      7 years ago

      “but it’s important to remain cognizant of the fact that we’re comparing a player’s iron to game-improvement iron, though it’s worth noting, the lofts are equivalent.”
      All of these irons are jacked up in the lofts, your 8i is the same loft as my Mizuno 7i. STOP trying to sell distance by jacking the lofts for crying out loud!

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      Lamont

      7 years ago

      Every manufacturer does this now! These are average lofts for a 2017 iron set. Check szrixon, ping, Wilson, Cobra, Titleist, and even PXG.

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      LAbillyboy

      7 years ago

      Can’t wait until used sets hit the market in a couple years.

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      Jamie Miller

      7 years ago

      2000 bucks…you almost get the feeling that they want to ruin the game of golf. ‍♂️

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      Berniez40

      7 years ago

      Two years ago I took the plunge on clubs that had ultimate performance and changed my game. Lately that same company has been putting out top performing drivers as well. Though these Epics probably outperform my clubs on Iron Byron, I still stand by my Srixon Z355 Irons. They too were made with top technology and aimed at the Game Improvement Guy Looking for more control and feel. If you’re even half way tempted to dump that much money on the Epics, I strongly recommend you try the Srixons first. The Irons, the new drivers, and even the Srixon Z-Star Ball are top notch stuff for a lot less dough.
      I think this shows that PXG Struck a nerve, and
      Callaway is simply saying, “You’re going to have to keep upping you’re game if you want that piece of turf. We fought too hard to get it back, and we wont let it go away without a fight.”THese are very interesting times in the golf world.

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      bob

      7 years ago

      Rip off pricing. The performance won’t compare to many clubs in the $1,000 range (or less) currently available. The ‘pro’ 7 iron is 31 degrees of loft??? So, they stamped a ‘7’ on the 6 iron?

      Gimmick clubs.

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      Christopher

      7 years ago

      Modern iron stampings are basically meaningless these days, the Epic Pro 7 would be a four iron back in the 1990s. The most important thing is how they perform and you can get decent gaping.

      Whilst the initial changes in loft were for marketing (longer irons sell) reasons the change in lofts should in theory help your game. You can now fit in wedges and hybrids into a set (as you don’t need 9 irons anymore) whereas the old traditional sets didn’t leave much room with 9 irons (topping out with 56 degree sand wedge).

      The biggest benefit is getting fit and remember that whilst you might hit your 6 iron 200 yards, you’ll be far less accurate than you will with a shorter more lofted club from 25 years ago with a 6 stamped on the bottom!

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      Steven Roglen

      7 years ago

      These arent for everyone and this has nothing to do with hurting the game. Either you can afford them or you can’t.

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      Demetrio

      7 years ago

      I just buy for 300€ one used set of apex pro, maybe in 3 years I’ll buy the Epic used for the same price ?

      Common guys, we need more player and this its not the right way

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      Albert Eng

      7 years ago

      At $2,000 a set, you would think Callaway would design a set of irons that doesn’t resemble TaylorMade’s M1/M2 irons.

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      new stuff!

      7 years ago

      which in turn resembles the Nike Vapor Speed…

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      Gary Paul

      7 years ago

      Now the cf16 will drop in price

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      Sharkhark

      7 years ago

      For a 7 club set.
      No not 8 not just a 5-aw that would run me $2744 when allowance for the exchange USA to CDN.
      Wow! Just… Wow!

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      Josh Castillo

      7 years ago

      I’m a callaway guy tried and true for many years but I will not be purchasing these anytime soon. They look like the old fusion irons slightly skinnier but equally ugly twin sister. The ridiculousness with golf equipment is getting outta control but…big golf companies pander to ‘sheeple’ nowadays. It’s big marketing at its finest. Can’t fault them for that but the average golfer is always looking got the ‘next best thing’ and they will always purchase to find that “2 yards longer” no matter driver, irons or wedge. ‘Sheeple’.

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      Bill Plagianakos

      7 years ago

      Wait 6 months for the new and improved Epic as Callaway always for and pay 1/3 The price.

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      Jeff

      7 years ago

      Any chance the price of the Apex going down after these are released?

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      Tony Covey

      7 years ago

      Next to no chance the Apex drops in price. This isn’t an Apex replacement…just a step above in the lineup. Apex continues to be a strong seller (inventory levels are low), so there’s no reason whatsoever for Callaway to drop the price.

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      Jeff

      7 years ago

      Thanks Tony! That makes sense. Different price ranges too. I have the XR’s. Do you think Steelhead XR/XR Pro’s are better?

      Mark

      7 years ago

      They are re-introducing the Black Apex in July, so they aren’t going anywhere until Q4 or Q1 next year.

      Andy Byma

      7 years ago

      As long as the used market stays level, I’m fine with it.

      Reply

      Joel Goodson

      7 years ago

      I hit them today and they were very good, look good from above, very forgiving, super long. Expensive? It depends on your wallet

      Reply

      Mr Flatstick

      7 years ago

      With companies offering these extremely high cost clubs with supposedly better performance are they basically saying you can buy a better game?

      Also, when are people going to learn that irons are not about distance they are about hitting the right numbers. I’d be retired if I had a nickel for every time a single has joined our group and flew an iron 15 yards over the green only to hear them say “I can’t believe how far I hit that 8 iron”. Mean while I’m putting for birdie. I’ll take my iron with a lower number stamped on it that spins enough to hold a green and I know how far I hit it.

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      Jon Sun

      7 years ago

      At least my PXG irons look sexy.

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      Joshua Stilwell

      7 years ago

      I’m sure they’re nice but I think the Apex Pro 16’s look better. And I’m not sure most of us could see much improvements over them then the Apex too at half the price. But I’m not upset they make these. If you don’t want them don’t buy them. And if you do then go for it.

      Reply

      Gary Potter

      7 years ago

      I think I read that the epic irons pick up.05 mph club head speed over the Apex 16’s – not enough to make a difference.

      Reply

      Mark Grant

      7 years ago

      $2000.00!!!!! And they wonder whats wrong with this country!!! Businesses in the U. S. are ALWAYS trying to steal our money!!!!

      Reply

      Mark Casey

      7 years ago

      Steal your money? Are they holding a gun to your head? Just say no man. Nobody’s after your money.

      Reply

      Bob

      7 years ago

      Callaway is a publicly traded company so if you look at their financials they aren’t stealing a thing. If they hadn’t invested in Top Golf they would be losing even more money every year. This site keeps telling us how good they are because of market share in multiple categories but their $12 stock price should tell you all you need to know.

      Reply

      Richard Rebugio

      7 years ago

      Now, if this ugly arrow can hit it’s target within a 10ft radius…then 2k is cheap LOL

      Reply

      Dan Wilson

      7 years ago

      Levy they getting greedy. Santos bet I can make a $200 set perform just as well as a $2000 set. This is out of control. At least PXG made up some shit about different coatings and metals and screws before they fisted your wallet.

      Reply

      Levy Van Winkle

      7 years ago

      Makes me shed a few tears. 250 per iron is wild as hell. I’ll sit back and watch what happens. I’ll spend my money on other clubs no doubt.

      Reply

      BO

      7 years ago

      You just took out the average golfer

      Reply

      James Harding

      7 years ago

      Just hit a demo of them and they’re awesome

      Reply

      Tedd Branstetter

      7 years ago

      What a ripoff! I can clearly see the design similarities between the original King Cobra Oversize Irons and the TaylorMade and Mizuno Irons. It’s all been done before. These days it’s no wonder people are turned off by golf, what with all the overdone multicolored marketing billboards that are the backs of irons and the insane costs of clubs and play.

      Reply

      ByteMe

      7 years ago

      Every golfer knows that $2000 irons have to be forged using a 3000 year old forging method that was used to make samurai swords.

      Reply

      Peter

      7 years ago

      How can these be better than the latest Apex irons which are forged?

      Reply

      Tony Hall

      7 years ago

      Epic price!

      Reply

      Larry Young

      7 years ago

      And trade in value will be pennies on the dollar. Why not, putters have all ready gone there.

      Reply

      Terry Ainscough

      7 years ago

      Not worth the price. At least with PXG you are getting the finest forged irons they are capable of producing. These are just Callaways made to look fancy and in my opinion they fail. Next week they’ll bring out another new model that’s half a club longer than the Steelhead and a third of the price of this offering, so why spend 2000 dollars on something with the same performance.

      Reply

      JD

      7 years ago

      “DAMN YOU PEOPLE, THIS IS GOLF! GO BACK TO YOUR SHANTIES” – Callaway

      Reply

      Randy Ulrick

      7 years ago

      the price is crazy!

      Reply

      Plaidjacket

      7 years ago

      I don’t even like the looks of them.

      Reply

      Gordon

      7 years ago

      Do any of these companies ever think that by telling us, “this is the very best we can create”, it is actually throwing their other current product line under the bus? Are you indirectly telling me the Steelheads and Apex are junk?

      They look nice. I am certain they play well, but I don’t have a spare $2500 laying around when the performance of clubs half or less the cost is maybe a single stroke a round?
      If even that, since most amateurs lose strokes on the greens.

      May be a broad appeal product, but will only even be considered by a niche group of golfers.

      Reply

      Wendell Laffin

      7 years ago

      Thank PXG for this… and just so we are clear, Callaway won’t be the only other OEM dropping 2-3K irons on us in the near future. People that can’t afford these should not complain about them… stick to complaining about the models that you can afford, which are also going up in price lol.

      Reply

      MikeyB

      7 years ago

      These irons really seem to be a corporate ‘statement’ about what a manufacturer is capable of doing, and expressing it as a tangible product.
      Did someone impugn Callaway’s reputation and ‘insult’ them by calling them a game improvement company only?
      When you hear another company (like PXG did) say ‘no budget, no timeline, no restrictions’ to produce a product like this as an ultimate product, where does that leave product development in future? How do you provide a better product than ‘ultimate’?
      Are companies now trying to signal the PGA that they have reached the limits of conforming with equipment limits, and that they need to be relaxed a bit?
      At $250 a club, will the 18 handicap be able to exploit the product for a 12 handicap after a year, or will they be a 17, but with ‘cool’ clubs?

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      Gorse Richard

      7 years ago

      Epic price.

      Reply

      KM

      7 years ago

      I will take one… the 5 iron then maybe the 7 iron and hopefully they won’t come out with another model while lm saving up for my 9 iron.

      Reply

      Alan

      7 years ago

      OK, these are the “best” irons in the world, so IS ANY GUY ON TOUR GOING to play them ?????

      I think not, they are going to stay with their. blade or more blade like iron that they can hit high or low or left or right.
      Well, then who is this for, its for the every day golfer (the one who can afford it) that MAY GET A BIT MORE OF HELP/FORGIVENESS compared to the game improvement irons they are currently using.

      As an alternative thought, SPEND $2000 for golf lessons and you will definitely hit you current set BETTER !!!!!!

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      Cace Smith

      7 years ago

      Fugly and insane price. Good luck with that Callaway.

      Reply

      Mike Williams

      7 years ago

      They look great to me! At a 7 index, I’m happy with my “lower end” Callaway Steelhead irons – but I might well buy a used set of these in about 5 years or so. :-)

      Reply

      John

      7 years ago

      I have been a huge Callaway fan for years. With that being said, WTF Callaway? Why are you producing a club that you say allows for more distance and forgiveness on off center hits and then trying to sell it to a group that better be hitting it in the middle of the face every time? The golfers spending 2 grand on irons I think would be spending that kind of money on some beautiful forgings. If you are loaded and a 20 handicap I would recommend spending that money on a place like Golf Tec.

      Reply

      Jeff Bahry

      7 years ago

      PXG wannabe and reactionary, IMO

      Reply

      Larry Allen

      7 years ago

      I’ll stick with the Callaway Hawkeye VFT’S. Thanks

      Reply

      Robert Dwyer

      7 years ago

      Next Golf Company which will be sold for 10 cents on the dollar!

      Reply

      George P

      7 years ago

      Sure…..only when the game of golf will be coming to an end! Callaway (and PING) are too smart for that to happen. TaylorMade was too greedy and arrogant in their approach which ultimately led to Adidas dumping the brand. As the article says, Callaway is already the #1 golf company & iron brand, so they don’t need more sales. This is a niche product for the people with money that want ultimate performance. For sure, not for the average “weekend warrior”, but the business guys with cash to burn will be bagging these in a heartbeat!!

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      Robert Dwyer

      7 years ago

      Greed and arrogance, interesting, time will tell, history has proven even the mighty fail

      Clay

      7 years ago

      I have zero interest in these, when is the XR line of fairways being updated?

      Reply

      Brandon Tonkovich

      7 years ago

      Welcome to the PXG effect. They’re having success at massive price points and other companies are takin notice.

      Reply

      Brad Wuhs

      7 years ago

      This is a good sign. Big deal that not everyone can afford them. This is a sign that the backbone of golf – rich people – has decided the economy and their nest eggs are solid enough that they can blow a few grand on golf clubs. Golf is not dead, people!

      Reply

      Christian Furu

      7 years ago

      I guess “the PXG effect” was also responsible for the Razr XF irons back in 2011. $1300 was pretty expensive back then.

      Reply

      Jim

      7 years ago

      This high end club fad is really getting out of control. Although I’m not a fan of PXG at least they have a distinct look about them. These look like a GI iron and not much else. And the price is really silly. But like PXG I’m sure there are some out there that will spend the money but I don’t see these as a successful venture for Callaway.

      Reply

      Sean K

      7 years ago

      For 2k these clubs should be packaged as an entire ‘experience’ which includes the custom fitting.

      Reply

      MRHogan

      7 years ago

      Agree with Sean K. Price should include a total fitting with choice of shaft. Are the club manufactures marketing high price products with a high expectation of performance? These clubs are expensive therefore the consumer expects them to perform better than a set half the price.

      Reply

      Mark

      7 years ago

      You do have a choice of any steel shaft they offer. We are the only shot that will get the fitting system in our area. Very limited when it comes to what shops get the fitting components. I hit them yesterday, every bit as crisp and solid as the pxg irons I have hit. No loud click like with steelhead. Not sure any club is worth that much to me, but I already have a list of people who want a fitting.

      Clubdesign

      7 years ago

      It’s like they took the Wilson V6 and added fangs. The colors are a little childish but looks great.

      Reply

      Josh Humphreys

      7 years ago

      Hard pass. Give me a quality forged or cast iron over these overhyped and over priced irons.

      Reply

      Michael Marchant

      7 years ago

      lol good luck with that Callaway, they are hideous! Look cheap, cost a fortune, no thanks

      Reply

      Eric Coe

      7 years ago

      You set it down it looks the same as the 2005 X pros. No wonder the industry is tanking.

      Reply

      Johnny Cowboy

      7 years ago

      that green is boujee

      Reply

      Dennis Johnston

      7 years ago

      And the industry wonders why interest in the sport is fading. This is ridiculous. Manufactured in China for pennies on the dollar and then sold here at an astronomical price. Screw em’ all.

      Reply

      Jed Carmona

      7 years ago

      It’s not like all manufacturers or every iron set is priced high. Nor do you need to buy these-there are plenty of viable options. Interest in golf had been waning before this or PXG clubs. Also before PXG, there was Miura. No one cried about that, either you could afford them or you couldn’t. These clubs are targeted at a different market segment.

      Reply

      joseph dreitler

      7 years ago

      are Miura clubs mass produced in China by casting? I must have missed that part.

      Paul Kielwasser

      7 years ago

      Ummmmm. No. Let’s start by making them LOOK like they’re not just $100/club with a $250/club price tag.

      Reply

      Dan DeBarr

      7 years ago

      they looks like a slightly modified m2

      Reply

      David W

      7 years ago

      They look like a standard game improvement club designed to sell to the masses. Add that to the fact that this is the same type/level of innovation we see every year from every company and i believe these will be a flop as high end clubs.

      Reply

      McaseyM

      7 years ago

      1/2 a club longer? Is this really needed at this point? Also, ditch the neon green, it can work on a wood or hybrid, but not an iron, especially at 250 each

      Reply

      jaaberg

      7 years ago

      No, the added distance is not “needed”; it is however wanted and honestly I doubt you will hear complaints. What’s wrong with neon green?

      Reply

      cgasucks

      7 years ago

      Tell that question to Nike.

      McaseyM

      7 years ago

      True about the distance, people will always buy distance. For me the neon green cheapens the look. Kinda like the BombTech irons.

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