2018 MOST WANTED SUPER GAME IMPROVEMENT IRON
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2018 Most Wanted Super Game Improvement Iron Rankings

About This Test

All testing was conducted inside our fully independent test facility located in Yorktown, Virginia. All testers used Bridgestone Tour B-RX golf balls for consistency and to reduce test variables. Ball and head data were collected using Foresight Sports GCQuad launch monitors.

  • SHOTS HIT: 5,049
  • DATA POINTS:  348,381
  • TIME: 120 hours
  • TESTERS: 20
  • HANDICAP RANGE: 4 – 17
  • AGE RANGE: 29 – 83
  • DRIVER SWING SPEED RANGE: 70 – 99 mph
  • IRONS TESTED: Long, Mid and Short iron from each model

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Field Notes

This section details equipment specifications and any outliers that might be present in that data.

  • Models tested included a short iron, mid iron, and long iron from each set.  All clubs tested were stock off the rack – in some cases, the stock long-iron in the set was a hybrid.
  • A tremendous loft discrepancy exists within the Super Game Improvement category. Measured lofts of the long-iron ranged from 21° – 25°; measured lofts of the mid-iron ranged from 26.5° – 31.5°; measured lofts of the short-iron ranged from 41° – 45.25°.
  • In all three cases, the Callaway Rogue X was the strongest lofted club measured, which likely explains its distance advantage. There is a strong correlation between loft and distance.
  • Measured lengths of the long-iron ranged from 36.75″ – 39.5″; measured lengths of the mid-iron ranged from 36.75″ – 37.25″; measured lengths of the short-iron ranged from 35.25″-36.75″
  • While lie angle varies through the set, the Cobra FMAX ONE is identically in length and swingweight throughout the set.
  • Four of the models tested contained stock steel shafts; the remaining five contained lightweight graphite.

Most Wanted Super Game Improvement Iron Data

Why you should consider SGI Irons

If you’re in the market for new irons, it’s essential you choose the right type for your game. This game is difficult enough, and most golfers could use all the help we can get. Inherent in the Super Game Improvement designs is improved performance on off-center hits. Bigger heads, wider soles, and larger faces help provide maximum forgiveness while maintaining, and in some cases, increasing distance relative to other design categories (GI, players cavity-back, etc.).

Are Super Game Improvement irons right for you? Among the best-selling in the marketplace, this category should appeal to a wide variety of golfers. Perhaps you’re a seasoned veteran to the game, but over the years you’ve lost the distance you once had. If you struggle to get the ball in the air, SGI irons, with their light shafts and high-launch profiles may be right for you (provided you can manage the stronger lofts).

Distance and forgiveness, however, invariably come at a price. Inevitably, you’ll sacrifice workability and versatility, so it’s important to determine what aspects of performance are most important to you and choose your irons accordingly.

Tech Trends

Super Game Improvement irons are a good fit for many golfers. While these aren’t the compact, butter-knife blades most of us wish we could play, the category is packed with technology packed to help golfers seeking extra distance and added forgiveness.

As you’ve likely come to expect, stock lofts for SGI clubs are stronger than what you would find in other iron categories. The Callaway Rogue X is a bit of an outlier at 26.5°, the weakest lofted 7-iron we measured was 31.5°. To put that into perspective, the strongest lofted 7-iron in our Players Irons Test was 32° while the strongest lofted Players Distance 7-iron came in at 30°.  Moral of the story, lofts are getting stronger each year, and nowhere are they stronger than in the SGI category. Technology is allowing engineers to build clubs that launch higher and fly farther than ever, and stronger lofts are an essential part of the distance equation.

To mitigate the stronger lofts and promote higher launch, lightweight shafts are becoming increasingly common within the category. Shaft weights in this test ranged from 49-grams for graphite to 80-grams for steel. While lighter weight shafts can help produce higher head speeds, higher launch, and more distance, they can also create control issues for higher swing speed or faster tempo golfers.

Bigger bodies and specifically wider soles are common to most SGI designs, with the Cleveland Launcher HB offering the widest of this group. The wide sole promotes increased dynamic loft and helps prevent digging when you hit the big ball before the little ball. Ultimately, it makes for a more-forgiving clubs, but you’ll lose a bit of the versatility and workability that you would get from a more compact design.

Product Spotlight – Cobra F MAX ONE

Although not our best overall, the single-length Cobra F MAX ONE was rated just below the Cleveland HB. Aside from total distance, the F MAX ONE ranked either 1st or 2nd in every one of our key metrics (shot area, strokes gained, carry consistency, and radial distance ) for both the long and mid-irons.

Shorter distance with the long irons is to be expected, and could likely be overcome with a ONE Length Hybrid or Utility. The only negative we observed was with the PW, where some testers struggled to control distance with a longer than standard club. Testers told us the felt the club was more difficult to use attempting to hit it to shorter distances, though we believe this could be overcome with practice. Several testers (particularly the highest handicappers) said they preferred the consistent shaft length.

It is interesting to note that the FMAX ONE length is not a strong seller relative to Cobra’s other ONE Length offerings. That seems strange given that ONE Length seems particularly well-suited for the SGI category. Overall, the FMAX ONE was a strong performer and a favorite among testers. If you have any inclinations towards moving to single length irons, the FMAX ONE most certainly warrants consideration.

Feedback from the Most Wanted Test Pool

The Cleveland HB, our 2018 Most Wanted Super Game Improvement Iron Winner, despite its rather remarkable performance among the irons tested, received mixed feedback from the test group. As you may expect, the slower swinging, higher handicap testers preferred this model over most of the irons tested. The extra-wide sole and deep center of gravity help the testers launch the ball high, but the faster swing speed players complained that the club felt too light and whippy. Cleveland went to extra lengths to improve the sound and feel of the club with technology like internal rib construction. There’s some anecdotal evidence that it worked as several testers said they thought it was the best feeling iron in the test.

One of the most favored clubs in the entirety of the test for both feel and address position is the Cobra KING Oversize. The KING OS was rated in the upper echelon by our testers, though performance wasn’t stellar. Some testers enjoyed the oversized head shape, noting the “big face” and score lines that help the golfer line the ball up in the center of the clubface.  Many testers submitted positive feedback regarding the overall weight of the club, saying that it felt balanced across each iron they tested.

One of the top performers in the test, the Cobra F MAX ONE was well accepted among the test group. The higher handicap golfers preferred the shorter length long irons, rating the club as one of their favorites. Some testers noted they had no trouble getting the ball in the air despite the long iron being shorter than what they’re used to playing. The Cobra F MAX ONE was also tester favorite in the feel category. Perhaps interesting is the tester’s response to the variable length FMAX. Where the feel was rated highly overall, several testers weren’t fans of the oversized grips, calling them bulky, leading some to feel like they were losing control of the club.

The Callaway Big Bertha Oversize was one of few clubs in the test to receive almost unanimously negative feedback.  Many testers complained that the clubs felt somewhat “thin” and lacked a soft, solid feel. The test group disliked the chunky, short blade look of the iron and some complained that they had trouble getting the long iron up in the air. It’s worth mentioning that Callaway has just released a replacement to the Big Bertha OS (2018 Big Bertha). The new model significantly improves feel, while offering the requisite promises for improved performance in other areas as well.

Buying Advice

Choosing the right irons ultimately is determined by what you need to improve your game. Are you looking to maximize distance, or increase accuracy?  For most, the best iron is the one that offers a combination of distance, accuracy, and forgiveness.

Here are some factors you should consider:

  • The Shaft –  The age old debate of graphite vs. steel leaves the one of golf’s biggest questions unanswered, when do I switch to graphite?  The best answer comes when you work with a competent fitter. No two swings are alike, and that means that not everyone fits into the same box. Depending swing speed, tempo, angle of attack, and other factors, graphite shafts may or may not be the best fit. The clubs we tested have both stock graphite and steel, and the weight of the shaft will ultimately have an affect on your swing speed. Higher swing speed or aggressive golfers shouldn’t dismiss the SGI category entirely. When paired with a shaft better suited to your swing (often stiffer and heavier), SGI irons can deliver tremendous performance, even for those outside the traditional demographic.
  • Hybrids or Traditional Heads – While stronger lofts have increased distance, they often make it difficult for golfers, particularly slower swing players, to get their long irons airborne. If you struggle to hit SGI long irons high, consider replacing them with a hybrid. Many of the sets tested either come stock with hybrids or provide a hybrid-iron combo set options. If you’re still struggling with launch into your middle irons, consider lower center-of-gravity, wide sole options like the Cleveland Launcher HB. Finally, keep in mind that there’s no rule against bending an SGI set a degree or two weak if you need help getting the ball in the air. You’ll lose a bit of distance for it, but you’ll land softer into greens and likely have more control overall.
  • Set Make-Up – Along similar lines, something we often see at the testing facility is golfers coming in with a bag of clubs put together without any real purpose or intention. We see 3 and 4-irons in the bags of golfers who can’t hit them. Sometimes we find wedges that never get used. When you’re purchasing your next set of clubs, make sure you’re choosing irons that allow you to hit every shot you’ll face on the golf course. If that means pairing long-iron-replacing hybrids with traditional short irons, so be it.

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      Andrew

      5 years ago

      Any difference between the old HB3 and the new HB Launchers?

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      Scott

      5 years ago

      KZG has extended their H370 hybrid line (18* – 42*) that would be 3 – 9 iron. For game improvement, nothing comes close.

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      EGDEW Rich

      5 years ago

      Interesting that the Tommy Armour TA1 irons were not included. They are deep discounted at GG and Dick’s right. My test of the 7 iron would rival the HB for accuracy, indoor launch monitor at GG.
      Distance wise, the 7 iron is a pure boomer and very forgiving. The hybrids are very underrated as well, and on sale!

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      Erock

      5 years ago

      Where is the Ping g700 in this test ?

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      Mike

      5 years ago

      I’ve played Ping irons for years. The G700 (to me) a game improvement iron, not a ‘super’ game improvement. I can’t imagine a super game-improvement buyer spending +$160 per club when there are so many other qualified, less expensive options. Really disappointed at that price point…

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      ole gray

      5 years ago

      The Cleveland HB Launcher irons are flat out fun to hit! In fact they are staying in my bag until the heads fall off…… Just saying for me, they are that good!

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      HiBoreHo

      5 years ago

      Launcher HBs are phenomenal. However the 5 and 4 have too much offset so using 4 and 5 xr hybrids. The rest of the set is outstanding. If you only play once a week these are the irons for you. And they are irons despite the aesthetics. Hollow forgiving high launching straight irons. Surprised all companies don’t copy these.

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      mackdaddy

      5 years ago

      Do you have the data for distance from center line?

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      Ryebread

      5 years ago

      This was the test right up my alley, and if most readers are probably honest with themselves, the test they should also be closely looking at. Big thumbs up for not just data, but also some of the commentary.

      Also, I do not agree with the posters clamoring for high handicap testers. That’s just more throw away data, and eventually the higher handicapper tosses so many swings that they’re too tired to finish the test (swing consistency/repeatability suffers). Slow to averag swing speed 4-18 handicaps with repeatable swings is a great representative sample.

      I have hit, owned, etc. almost ever set in this test. My swing speed and distance is a bit higher than the averages here, as are my launch angles. The lowest performing long iron in the test is actually my highest performing out of this set. Just shows how a fit is important.

      It is nice to see the FMax OL get some postive press. The sound and feel off of these is actually really good. If one has mere mortal clubhead speed and wants to try OL, this is pretty much the best set out there (and I say this having also owned graphite shafted Pinhawks). I would agree that the longer wedges take some getting used to, and I have found mine to be pretty “hot” relative to a standard wedge of similar spec (which isn’t surprising). I kind of wish Cobra had offered the 85ish gram steel shaft in the US that they offered in Europe on this set.

      It is really hard to knock the Hibores for this target handicap. They offer oodles of forgiveness, are draw biased (at least they are to me) and offer launch without a lot of offset. I am in disagreement with one earlier comment. The wedges are actually outstanding, but they are really hard to find. They have a smaller sole width than the CBX but a similar large, high toed face and zero offset. They are very good clubs.

      I too would have liked to see offerings from Ping (G400, Max even g700 as I suspect some cross shopping there), Tour Edge (HL3 Iron Woods) and TM (MCGB). I get the expense issue, but that would have been the most comprehensive SGI test in many, many years.

      Keep up the great work! I hope this test becomes a staple year in and out.

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      Roy Hostetter

      5 years ago

      If I am not mistaken the clubs in this test are for the high handicap player. We need to see the data from the “throw away” shots as those are the ones these clubs are suppose to help. We need to know how these clubs perform on shots hit all over the club face. We have to play all our shots not just the few we hit on the “sweet spot “. I want know if any of these will lower my score with the swing I have on the course.

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      ryebread

      5 years ago

      While I completely understand the sentiment, I am not sure that’s the goal of the site. Handicaps of 10-17 are going to have enough variability in their swing that some of what you are looking for is already built in.

      I also agree that what you’re getting at is a bit of a flaw in a lot of “fittings.” Too much data against too few samples ends up getting tossed to create a prettier picture than what will be seen in real life. The fitter should really say “if you hit them all well, here’s what would happen” yet we know we don’t hit them all well. The higher handicap player in particular hits far fewer well.

      A huge value (to me) is seeing the number of shots that get “tossed.” Obviously the fewer the better. Personal experience suggests that far fewer Launcher HB shots would be dropped for the average 20+ handicap than say Rogue Maxs.

      I recently did a gap test with several sets on this list, and an Adams set that someone mentioned below (true hybrids to mild cavity wedges). The test was based on one swing per club, just like I’d hit on the course. There aren’t mulligans on the course, so there shouldn’t be on the gap test either. If I hit one so poorly that it had to be dropped (e.g. a thinned one) then I marked that as well. My “winner” wasn’t necessarily what performed the best on this test. My winner had clean gaps, and also the fewest throw away shots. To your point, that is the best club for me.

      I do applaud the MGS team for what they offer in this test (for free). If one is shopping the SGI category, put brand and aesthetic biases aside and try the Launchers or the FMAX OL (if one wants to go OL). I don’t think that means to rush out and blindly buy those thinking that they’re going to drop scores. That does suggest to me to prove the stick one buys clearly beats these two out. My personal experience suggests that’s probably tough to do in this category.

      Gerald Teigrob

      5 years ago

      Roy, I am one of the oddballs here. My handicap is in the 19+ range or so but I play GI irons better than SGI irons since the more forgiving irons are a bit too bulky for my playing style and my clubhead speed causes me to balloon the ball. I like how the Cobra Baffler XL irons fit my eye so I might check them out a bit more as we move into the golf season next year. But I seem to have plenty of length with the Bio Cell irons, even the 4 iron which I am able to achieve maximum distance at 183 yards with a chance that will go beyond this initial results. I find it interesting that they couldn’t have gone out and found the kind of golfers who would benefit most from them. I have a feeling I won’t be in the higher handicap end much longer and mid-handicap will assure me that game provement offer me adequate forgiveness and keep me in the fairway!

      P.J.

      5 years ago

      With all the varying lofts on these clubs, I’d have liked to have seen the lofts included in the data set.
      It would’ve been helpful to see the loft’s on the tested clubs also.

      It’d be great if MGS came up with some sort of formula for determing yards per degree, or something similar, so we could actually compare distances per club. What say ye, MGS staff?

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      Mark

      5 years ago

      Pretty limited on clubs tested. It’s missing some of the real contenders like Ping, Taylormade, Titleist, Mizuno and Srixon.
      Interesting data, but certainly not encompassing.

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      Will

      5 years ago

      Can you name the super game improvent models those manufacturers offer?

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      ryebread

      5 years ago

      To that point, Srixon’s SGI clubs were actually tested. Those are the Cleveland HB Launchers. The XXIO are also the same parent company.

      I don’t think Mizuno really makes a SGI iron set. The closest thing in their current portfolio would be the Hot Metals.

      I would have liked to see:
      – Ping G400/Max
      – Ping G700: I cross shopped these
      – TM M CGB: Tried these as well.
      – Bridgestone HF1: Niche player with small market share, but their last model (JGR Forged Hybrid Iron) was a great performer.

      Still, this is about the best current SGI test out there.

      Gerald Teigrob

      5 years ago

      New golf clubs are expensive enough…another $1k or so for TM, Ping with there alphabet irons, Mizuno with the JPX are about the only irons I would look at, Srixon that you need to get a second mortgage for like with PXG. I will stick to my Cobras, they will always be best in my golf bag!

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      Gerald Teigrob

      5 years ago

      My thoughts exactly, Mark! Unless there’s an upgrade from TM on the Rocketbladez SGI market or the like, TM is pretty much focused on the game improvement and player’s market. You can’t have the SGI share of the pie unless you are Callaway or Cobra and upgrade with the F-Max and Baffler XL irons. Not so sure they can compete with Cobra there! Even with Srixon being big on game improvement, I will stick with my Cobra Bio Cells thank you very much!

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      Spitfisher

      5 years ago

      There are some other clubs missing, this late in the year it could be for one reason or another. One such club is the Taylormade CGB and even the Ping 700….Oh well the winning club is not a surprise. The Cleveland High launch irons a few years ago were also pure.

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      Dan

      5 years ago

      Where is the chart to look at all the data?

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      Bruce

      5 years ago

      Surprised you did’nt test Ping clubs I’d be really keen to see them included being such a dominant brand

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      Gerald Teigrob

      5 years ago

      I played Adams SGI irons for a few years and then upgrade to the A12OS. I found that for my clubhead speed, the OS series tended to cause me to balloon the ball more and miscalculate my distance from what I was capable of getting. Over the course of the summer, I picked up a set of demo Cobra Baffler XL SGI irons and hybrids…and although I have yet to play the full set, I have a good feeling about those irons! The long irons and mid irons should give me thee feedback and forgiveness that I need in a set of SGI irons. The short irons and even the sand wedge should help me around the shorter distances. i am not big on Cleveland and their actually hybrid irons. Having see what I’ve noticed in the Cobra Golf so far, I am sold on Cobra and I am sure that the Bio Cells will, along with the Baffler XLs continue to be awesome clubs now and in the years to come!

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      Roy Hostetter

      5 years ago

      Players with double digit handicaps: For game (score) improvement buy the most accurate irons (usually the weakest lofts & shortest shafts); for distance improvement visit your local pro, join a gym, and take up yoga.

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      sam

      5 years ago

      What I find odd about this test is ,you say the average golfer shoots around 100 and if that’s who they are marketing SGI clubs to why then do you only have testers from 4-17.. That’s why you have the results you do. I was a 25HC when I started and no matter which SGI iron you gave me I would not have given Distance or accuracy with any those clubs. It was my swing that was my problem and I would say those who still are in the 95/100 are in the same boat. anybody with a 4HC can hit any club given to them. Just because they can show what these clubs can do will not translate playing better to a 26HC per say! It’s their swing and time spent playing that needs to change more than just new clubs. Surly another 20 testers from 17-28 HC would given a completely different result. , Today I hit off 11-12HC. still on the old TM R7′ I worked on my swing and time playing.

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      Bwpage3

      5 years ago

      Sam, you bring up a good point. These clubs are certainly not directed to the PGA player or low handicapper. As a 4 HC, I can hit any club at all and even carry a Touredge HL3 # 3 Ironwood. However, these clubs should be tested by the high handicappers they are aimed at.

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      Gerald Teigrob

      5 years ago

      I agree, Sam! Not sure why mid to low handicappers would be playing these big sticks anyways. Not every size fits all. I would be interested in seeing what the higher handicapper can do…but I am happy to be able to play certain SGI and GI irons.

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      Bwpage3

      5 years ago

      The new Touredge HL3 Ironwoods are far superior to Cleveland Launchers and since they are basically the same shape, why wasn’t the Touredge HL3 tested head to head? I use a Touredge #3 Ironwood and haven’t found a 3 out there that can keep up with it. Super simple to hit and get airborne.

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      Brandon

      5 years ago

      Have you hit the CBX ironwoods?

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      Ross

      5 years ago

      Love the format of this test. Keep it up MGS.

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      Johnnythunders

      5 years ago

      I understand it is hard to do these types of tests but please at least listed what type of shafts and flexes you used in the tests. It has a large impact on both distance and accuracy. Thanks, like these type of tests.

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      Stephen

      5 years ago

      I’m not in the market for SGI at this point, but I love that this report had more about the subjective reactions of your test pool. I know MGS is all about the quantitative and I don’t want to see that diluted, but giving us more about the feel and emotional reactions of the testers is also valuable. Thank you.

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      Julian

      5 years ago

      Enjoyed comments about loft degrees. Always believed loft rather than number dictated distance. Why don’t you list degrees for each iron ? Last set I bought was nearly one iron stronger than previous set. That is not technology, only marketing.

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      Jay from IA

      5 years ago

      Hogan tried putting loft only loft #’s on the Ft Worth & PTx irons and the public didn’t buy into the concept. Their newer Edge irons have club #’s (9,8,7 etc.) and the clubs are selling well. Personally I would rather have the loft angle on the irons but I guess I can learn the loft of my 7 iron:)

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      Gerald Teigrob

      5 years ago

      Julian, if you were to get tested with GolfTec, they would lean towards what numbered club can you hit 180 yards and down. Loft has little to do with distance since a 25 degree TM could be a 28 degree in a Cobra iron. So I tend to think that way too…which club can I hit to my next furthest point without overcooking my irons? It’s a different way o approaching things but once you think about it more, you’ll see the method behind their madness. In essence, the use of lofts is misleading because lofts aren’t standardized so going with the iron number or wedge seems to make more sense!

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      Steve S

      5 years ago

      I’ve hit a lot of the irons in this test and, to nitpick a little, I don’t consider the Cleveland clubs an iron set. They look and feel like a complete set of hybrids, similar to those made by Pinemeadow, Integra, and others. Admittedly they aren’t quite as big as the ones I mentioned, but after swinging them they look and feel more like a set of hybrids than irons. I also don’t like them for hitting shots 30 yards and in. For me they have no feel with those shots. I guess you could build a set with the HB’s down to an 8 iron then use more conventional irons from 9 down.

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      Gerald Teigrob

      5 years ago

      Steve, that’s what I liked with my Adams OS hybrid irons. The best set I played was the A7 OS hybrid irons and I enjoyed playing especially the hybrids but also appreciated the transitional 6 and 7 hybrids and then I played 8 iron to lob wedge. As soon as the A12 OS irons came out and the 7-gw along with the 4-6 hybrids, that only added to the problem with 7 and 8 irons being the transitional hybrids and the 9 iron and up being a regular SGi iron. Thankfully they went back to the 3h to pwi-setup as not all SGI 4i-gw sets match with game improvement setup. I am interested in seeing how my Baffler Xl 4-gw perform, but at least they all don’t look as ugly as the cigar shaped Cleveland Launchers. I don’t consider those hybrid irons either.

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      Tom Burns

      5 years ago

      Makes all the sense in the world to me. I bought a new set of Launchers (4-DW) in September and my game has changed dramatically for the better. They have totally reinvigorated me to play more golf!

      I struggled for years with inconsistency on my second shots. I finally gave up on my TaylorMade Burners and I can now hit beautifully high, accurate shots every time. Distance is not any worse than before so club selection is easy, and when I need to hit a 4-iron into the green I can do so confidently.

      Extremely happy with Cleveland Launchers! I also got rid of my 3-wood and 5-wood and replaced them with Cleveland as well. What a difference! I LOVE playing golf again!

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      Dan

      5 years ago

      I’ll be curious to see how the upcoming Big Bertha irons perform against this group.

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      Kenny B

      5 years ago

      Most golfers who need to play SGI shouldn’t play long irons. They are usually replaced by hybrids, making the longest iron a 5i or even a 6i. Doesn’t that make a mid-iron something more like an 8i, and isn’t that loft more inline with lofts of a player’s mid-iron??

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      Mike Reed

      5 years ago

      Is any consideration given as to how these clubs perform in chipping, short pitching, and sand play? I care more about the short game than I do about the distance game and find many fo the “game improvement” clubs difficult to control in the short game.

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      Gerald Teigrob

      5 years ago

      Hey Mike, I would think the more a club is shaped like a cigar such as the Cleveland Launchers or others here, the more likely they would be ideal for chipping. I am thinking the same thing with my Baffler XL irons and especially hybrids. From there you’d want to narrow down the benefits of one set over another and then determine from there which direction to go.

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      Waazzupppp

      5 years ago

      At what point should players consider moving to SGI clubs? I mean, if they are longer and more accurate, wouldn’t EVERYONE benefit from playing them?

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      Terry

      5 years ago

      It’s all about preference. Could I game SGI irons? Yes, but I have a high swing speed and I generate a lot of spin. I also play with guys who do not generate much spin so i’m not sure they could hold a hard/fast green with most of these irons.

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      Al

      5 years ago

      I’m a little confused. I’ve been thinking of the

      Al

      5 years ago

      I’m a little confused. I’ve been thinking of the f-max complete set for over a year now. I

      Al

      5 years ago

      I’ve been considering the f-max for over a year now. I’m not sure if you tested last years f-max or this years f-max superlite since it says f-max, but the picture is of the superlite. I’m pretty sure I’d like to buy the f-max superlite irons, but not in one length, but still need some reviews on of Hybrids woods, and driver. That way I could buy a complete set for around $1000, including a nice stand bag, putter, 3 and 5 wood, driver, and set of irons with hybrid. Doesn’t get much better than that if the clubs are good.

      don

      5 years ago

      What’s funny is when I play these instead of blades I hit too many PURE shots that go further than I planned. Draw and fade workability is bull. Even the best non tour players want to hit their irons straight, they just like to think they might want to draw or fade it towards the pin. I would love to see you have your hdc10 and under and 5 and under test these vs what they have in the bag. Wanna bet these clubs win but they still won’t put them in their bag.

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      Jay from IA

      5 years ago

      SGI irons aren’t more accurate, especially in the mid to short irons. They are easier to hit, get airborne and more distance but pinpoint accuracy is not what they are made for.

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      Johnny Penso

      5 years ago

      The distances are shorter but the shot area and radial distances are smaller with these clubs than with the players distance clubs
      in spite of the higher handicaps and larger age range. A well struck ball with any club is going to go wherever you aimed it and offcentre hits will likely be better than with clubs with smaller heads and less perimeter and sole weighting. I don’t understand how that isn’t a prescription for accuracy among low to mid swing speed players.

      Brandon

      5 years ago

      Why would someone with a high swing speed want to hit a 200 yard 7 iron? The gapping at the bottom of the bag would be all messed up.

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      Gerald Teigrob

      5 years ago

      WAAZZUPPP, that all depends. Not every SGI iron fits all amateur players. Generally my clubhead speed and acceleration doesn’t fit most SGI irons because I tend to play the thinner Game Improvement irons with more quality shots, and hitting a 4 iron 183 yards is something most of us dream of. So I will continue to lean towards the GI irons and if I feel the need to add a 4 or 5 hybrid, I will do so, Otherwise I will save my SGI irons for later on when I need more distance help!

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      TBT

      5 years ago

      The launchers remind me of my old Cleveland Altitudes…super easy to hit but about 10 yards shorter than most irons.

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      Wedgie

      5 years ago

      I game the Launcher HB Irons and they have proven to be about a half club longer than the Mizuno Hot Metals I gamed prior with similar lofts. But you are correct in saying they are easy to hit. Great set of clubs!

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      Adrian

      5 years ago

      That is because they are only about 3 degrees stronger than most “traditional” lofts. The 588 altitude 7 iron is 31* and the Launchers are 30* so that isn’t that crazy at all in today’s SGI world. The Callaway Rogue X 7 iron is 27* so that is a club longer so no wonder they weren’t the longest club.

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      Michael

      5 years ago

      If I’m reading the strokes gained column correctly the difference between the best and worst is less than 0.14 strokes. With a number that low it implies that feel and looks are a larger determining factor than performance difference.

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      John

      5 years ago

      It’s just a metric to give you relative comparison, like PER in basketball or AV in football or WAR in baseball.

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      Rob

      5 years ago

      No surprise here, as these Launcher/HB irons got rave reviews on MyGolfSpy’s forum testing this year.

      Reply

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