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MGS Tested: 2018 Most Wanted Women’s Driver

For the first time ever at MyGolfSpy, we tested women’s drivers.

The scale is a bit smaller; fewer drivers and fewer testers. Conceived as a learning exercise or perhaps an experiment, it proved to be more fun for us than any test in recent memory. It’s fair to say that this is a little bit different kind of Most Wanted Test.

Whether or not we expand into other categories (irons), grow the number of products, and increase the number of testers depends almost entirely on your interest level. We want you to want more women’s testing.

3 Clubs, 5 Testers

We’re not going to present this as a survey of the entire women’s market. It’s not. We started small because there was a good bit we needed to understand before attempting a larger test of women’s gear.

  • Would the golf manufacturers be interested in having us test women’s clubs?
  • How many shots could mostly senior-aged women hit before fatigue sets in?
  • How would our readers respond to a women’s driver test?

That last one remains to be sorted out, but like I said, We want you to want more.

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About the Test

The Cobra (Ladies F-Max Offset), PING (G Le), and XXIO (Ladies 10) driver models we selected for this test provided us with a good spread of lofts and retail price points. As a bonus, we discovered there was quite a bit of weight difference as well.

For the test itself, we used our Most Wanted testing protocols. The simple explanation is that we randomized club selection, rotated clubs frequently, collected a good sample of shots, and leveraged our automated system to filter outliers.

Basically, we put the women through the same protocols as we do the men who test with us.

All testing was conducted at our secondary location at McGregor Links Country Club.  All testers used Bridgestone B330-RX golf balls. Ball and head data were collected with launch monitors from Foresight Sports.

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About Our Testers

Our test pool consists of avid country club golfers. While it’s fair to say that the majority are senior-aged, all are young at heart. The other pertinent details:

  • Handicap Range: High Teens-Low 20s
  • Swing Speed Range: 62-72 MPH

Before we get to the data, we’re compelled to mention that those handicaps beg for context. From the near tees, our testers’ home course plays just under 5200 yards. The average par 4 is 276 yards and the par 4s on the back 9 average over 300. The average driver distance for this group is roughly 136 yards. Sufficed to say, the math doesn’t suggest many legitimate opportunities to hit greens in regulation.

Imagine what it must be like playing par 4s where hitting the green requires a second shot that is roughly 20% longer than your typical drive. Good luck with that.

Let’s table the discussion on course setup for another day and have a look at the data.

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Women’s Driver Rankings

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Data: Group Averages

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Observations

  • Differences in average clubhead speed are most closely correlated with total club weight.
    • The PING G Le is 44 11/16” long and weighs 280 grams.
    • The XXIO X is 44” long, but weighs only 243 grams.
    • The Cobra F-MAX is 44 ¼” long and weighs 298 grams.
  • The offset F-Max was the only one of the three drivers to produce a left-of-center bias, suggesting the offset does help mitigate a slice.
  • With a stamped loft of 15°, the Cobra F-Max produced the highest launch, spin, and apex, along with the steepest angle of descent of the three models tested.
    • Across the board, values for those key metrics are lower than is optimal. There’s certainly a case to be made that golfers within this category would benefit from even more loft as well as other design considerations that could produce more spin.
  • Yards from Center (the average distance off the target line) was only 9.74 yards. This isn’t surprising given the shorter total distance, but it’s nevertheless worth a mention that fairway percentages for this group were significantly higher than what we typically see in a men’s test.

Data: Individual Averages

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As we’ve come to expect, even in a small test, our group averages don’t show much in the way of difference between clubs, however, when we look at the individual data, a few things stand out.

Observations

  • On an individual basis, the difference in total yards from the longest to shortest driver tested for each golfer ranged from 4 to 16 yards with the average difference from first to third being 11 yards.
    • It’s perhaps noteworthy that for each of the 5 golfers, the XXIO 10 was either the longest or the shortest which may suggest that, for any given golfer, it’s ultralightweight (even by the standards of this category) design either works really well or not well at all.
  • Of our 5 testers, only Mary (MK) produced anything in the ballpark of optimal launch and spin numbers.
  • Not shown in the chart, average attack angles for the group ranged from +3.08 to +6.08. These values are higher than we’d typically see from men within a similar age group. While often beneficial for maximizing distance, for our lower swing speed golfers, the positive to strongly positive angle of attack almost certainly contributed to the lower than ideal spin rates.
    • Barb (BT) is a perfect example. Her average attack angle is over +6°, and despite an average launch angle above 15°, none of the clubs in our test generated even 2000 RPM of backspin. While many higher speed players would be envious of her attack angle as well as her launch and spin numbers, given her ball speed, both launch and spin would ideally be higher.

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So what did we learn?

Looking past the performance data – which we think strongly suggests a need for higher lofted drivers for slower swing speed golfers – we came away with a better understanding of fatigue levels and what we can expect when testing with female golfers. We learned enough to move forward with a larger test. You tell us if you’d like us to do that.

In a more general sense, the conversations with the women who tested for us, along with those that joined us for an informal demo event, were eye-opening. Most felt that golf equipment companies either ignore them or aren’t’ particularly adept at reaching them. Retail experiences were rated as less than positive with many women saying that they don’t believe they’re treated seriously when they walk into a golf shop.

For the women who had previously hit balls on a launch monitor, none could say that anyone had ever taken the time to review the numbers, explain what they mean, or show where improvements could be made.

That’s a huge miss as we can’t oversell how engaged the women were during the test and with the discussions of their data that followed. It was an absolutely awesome thing to be a part of.

We had so much fun, but the experience also confirmed what we’ve suspected for quite some time; the golf industry is struggling to keep up with its changing demographics, which includes a higher rate of women taking up the game. Let’s embrace that. If the idea is to treat people how they want to be treated, the equipment biz needs to stop treating the ladies as women who dabble in golf a bit and instead approach them as golfers who just happen to be women, because, we promise you, that’s exactly what they are.

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      Steve Kelley

      5 years ago

      I am getting back into golf after a long hiatus, but have asked my wife to join along. It’s been very difficult to find good feedback on women’s equipment – as they say, cutting the shaft by 2″ and painting the club head pink just doesn’t cut it. We need more information and need to focus the industry on a very important demographic. Keep up the good work!

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      Cleo

      5 years ago

      Loved the article as everything said was so true. I’m an avid golfer and have been for 30 years. Whenever hubby and I go into a golf shop they always approach him first assuming I’m just tagging along. When he says “she’s looking for…..” they immediately say “their over there” like I’m a bother or something that shouldn’t be taken seriously. Very, very irritating. I would love to see a review of the 2019 drivers for women as I’m in the market for a new driver. After all, I deserve it. :)

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      Susan

      5 years ago

      Thanks for the info and bring on more women’s club testing! I found my way to your site because I really want to buy a driver. I am an avid recreational golfer who is currently playing without one in my bag. The reason? It is sooo difficult to demo them mostly because of lack of availability and dismissive sales people. The experience of golf club shopping is similar to going for a root canal. Painful? Yes. Crazy? Most definitely.

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      Lora

      5 years ago

      Any recommendations for a woman golfer with a swing speed that is consistently 85-88? Swinging a ladies driver is like swinging spaghetti, so I have been using senior/regular shafts, but find the off the shelf drivers don’t fit my height 5’4.

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      Jean Lee

      5 years ago

      Good info, but need to test more equipment for women. A lot of the equipment do not indicate loft or shaft weight. I have only been able to find Adams set for petite women. I have cut shafts 1″, but then lie angle and weight changes and also flex of entire club. Not much equipment info that is helpful for the recreational female golfer trying to buy equipment beyond a beginner set to help with game improvement.

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      Cheryl

      5 years ago

      Great start on testing. I am shopping for a driver and I agree with the comments regarding women in golf – not taken seriously, not much merchandise in stores,…

      I have money to spend and a desire to play the game for the rest of my life.

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      Mary W.

      5 years ago

      It amazes me that it’s 2018 and the first time you’ve tested women’s drivers! What rock have you been hiding under? But better late than never. I found this article very interesting and it is the reason I decided to subscribe to your site. Yes, please do more testing of women’s clubs, and with more testers than five ladies. By the way, I’m 56 years old and I hit my driver about 165 yards on average. There are a lot more long-ball hitters like me out there and younger female players who would like to feel included. Keep those ladies’ reviews coming. Please review more drivers and also fairway woods. I’m off to donate to your site now.

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      Bill

      6 years ago

      I enjoyed this test and wonder, do better women golfers use men’s clubs? I spent a year at a private course that catered to both a local girls high school and college. The majority had a better swing than myself even though I hit it further but their dispersion throughout the bag is on average much better. Point is, they play a solid game and deserve great equipment. Going into stores, most appear to ignore women, some entirely. The game needs more women on the course. I’d say the future of the game demands it. I see encouraging signs. Courses with female teaching pro’s, some stores that recognize that fashion for women of all sizes is a big selling point. I just wonder how much equipment is really developed for female swings, not just pastel accents on the clubs. I’d be curious to hear from women on what brands bring their best effort to the table.
      Part of my interest is that it appears the American women have been passed up by the Asians who take the game very seriously. I enjoy watching the LPGA but it’s real success here depends on being more competitive globally.

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      ChipNRun

      6 years ago

      My wife is only 4-foot-10, and has struggled to find golf clubs.

      A woman fitter gave her superb service on the Adams Idea (petite) set she now plays. The fitter got on the phone to Adams to see how much the lie angle could be flattened, and we had two store sessions before the final order.

      Then, Adams shipped the set “grips in the box” to allow for final adjustments: on final tweaks, another half-inch was cut from each shaft for best fit.

      A month later, this woman fitter – the daughter of a golf pro – quit the industry. I have seen several skilled women walk away from retail golf in the past five years.

      Maybe having more women fitters who would actually talk to female golfers would be part of the solution.

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      Debbie

      6 years ago

      I totally agree that women are discriminated against in golf in every respect. Limited equipment and not treated well at golf courses and in golf stores. Golf is like a sport stuck in the 1950’s where they act like women don’t belong. It’s really frustrating. I am a bogey golfer and my husband is a single digit handicap but when men walk up to play with my husband and I you can see they are dreading it in their body language. Then when I am striping it down the middle and they are in the desert, they change their tune but it’s so frustrating. I am really glad you did a test on the limited selection out there and hope there is more to come.

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      Nancy

      6 years ago

      Really enjoyed your article and totally agree of the lack of interest on the part of the “golf store personel”. I just started golfing 2 years ago and when I enter many of our big golf stores in town it is assumed I am shopping for my husband. I usually have to interupt the staff from talking to other staff members or from the golf channel to get help for myself. The club selection is almost non-existent for women unless you want a beginner set so I have to order on line most of the time. I appreciate your testing as this helps me with recommendations as I continue to build my set of clubs. Keep up the good work! I will continue to heed advice….

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      Gina

      6 years ago

      Thank you for the review on women’s drivers. Yes, I would be greatly interested to see a full review with a broader range of testers. I am 53, with a 9-hole handicap of 12-14. I currently use an X-Hot 2 driver, but am interested in looking around, but there is little information available and usually less than 2 options at golf stores to try. Many thanks for bringing visibility to the women’s game!

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      Gretchen Schulert

      6 years ago

      Very happy to find your website and test results. Very little such info is available – since Golf Digest stopped including women’s clubs in their equipment reviews. I am 74, 17-19 index and play regularly. Last year had a putter fitting at Club Champion and it was extremely useful. I will be having a full bag fitting in a few weeks. A golf friend who is slightly younger and a better player is raving about her recently purchased XX10 Driver – so I was extremely interested to see your test results. (I’ll not rush out to spend $800) KEEP UP TESTING WOMEN’S CLUBS!! All of my golf friends love buying new equipment and are frustrated at finding so little unbiased information that is not put out by the manufacturers.

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      Kellli Chellgren

      6 years ago

      Yes more testing! I am a woman golfer – 48 years old- high handicap but getting better as finally golfing once per week. Trying to fill some holes and gaps in my bag. Started researching ladies clubs and it has proven SUPER Frustrating! I want numbers- tests-reviews-data. It doesn’t exist. We want it and need it desperately. I am tired of the “mans club head on a lightweight shaft in a pink or pastel color” being the only choice for a lady golfer. Give me research and great looking -sleek -non-easter egg clubs that fit ALL aspects of a ladies swing- not jut a lighter shaft. More choices too. We have about 10% of the choice that men do when comes to club offerings. Was encouraged to find Coates Golf. http://www.CoatesGolf.com a line invented just for a women’s game. I am in contact with them trying to get more info and see if they are staying in business. Great to see a line just for ladies-and low handicap ladies- but worried that they may not be getting the business needed to continue. I hope they do.

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      Tim

      6 years ago

      My wife and I really enjoyed the article and testing information and would like to see more of this information and testing. Thanks!!!

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      Susan

      6 years ago

      Very good to know your moving in the right direction. We women league golfers are really interested. Please up the swing speed 75 mph to 85 mph
      Thanx and keep up expanding

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      Nat

      6 years ago

      Thanks for the review, I’ve been wanting to buy new clubs, but the thought of walking into a shop not knowing anything about women clubs, why the differences between men and women and where to start are all rather intimidating, so not doing it is easier. More information like this is very useful.

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      SaskGolf

      6 years ago

      As someone who works in golf retail, I really appreciate this review. Having worked with many female golfers in lessons and in discussing equipment, you are right that there are many women enthusiastic about learning more about the game, their own game, and the equipment that might work for them. I love discussing equipment technology and women are just as intrigued about equipment as men when it comes to these discussions. Please keep more reviews coming on women’s equipment. I will happily refer customers to them.

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      Tom Duckworth

      6 years ago

      I could not agree more about how the golf industry treats women golfers. My granddaughter is starting high school next fall and will try out for the golf team. She has been playing since she was six with me and through the First Tee program she has a great swing and good understanding of the game and swing mechanics. When we go into stores it is very apparent women are not taken seriously by the staff or golf equipment mfgs. I started her in golf for a few reasons one it’s a great game as we all know, two I wanted her to be in sports in school and three maybe this would help her in life with a scholarship
      which is a very real possibility for women these days with Title 9
      many parents I have talked to know this and I think we will see more women playing golf over the next ten years. It is a game that women can play at a high level and it’s many layers are very appealing.
      I hope your next round of testing will include some younger players
      I’m sure you could find some good high school and college players to add to your testers.

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      DucatiGirl

      6 years ago

      This is great! It’s so hard to find reviews of women’s golf equipment (my personal faves are the predominantly male writers reviewing a club designed for women), and I loved reading someone else sharing my opinion that golf manufacturers and retailers are missing the point. I walked into a shop this weekend, was directed to the “ladies” clubs, where all the super cool red and black and annondized club heads in the display, suddenly tuned into a swath of pink. It was extremely irritating.

      Thank you for the review and please, please, please keep them coming! I know a group of women who’d love to be part of your testing!

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      Ron

      6 years ago

      This test was very relevant to my wife, who has a similar swing speed. More please.

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      RA

      6 years ago

      Thanks so much for the ladies equipment review! My wife golfs and it’s hard to find quality review. And for me too! At times I’ve been injured/recovering and my swing speed was lady-like so it was great to play with lady clubs to better match my swing speed.

      Keep up the good work and more lady reviews please!

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      Scaldy

      6 years ago

      I love the ladies reviews. More please. I wish there were more drivers to choose from but thanks anyways.

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      Sandra

      6 years ago

      I am thrilled to see the driver reviews. It’s limited but it is a start. I always search for reviews prior to buying equipment but it is rare to find any information other than that provided by the company. Thank you. More please.

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      Laurent Laliberte

      6 years ago

      The golf industry should look at the automobile industry’s thinking on female customers . Do not neglect lady’s , the numbers are BIG…

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      Stacy Kay Brown

      6 years ago

      This article hits home for me. For years I have attempted to be noticed and taken seriously for years. I play a lot of golf and grew up playing. I have a 12 index and know the game, study the game, and read the latest on equipment. Yet, when I go into a retail shop to try drivers, which I did a week ago, I’m led to the ‘ladies’ section and only because I asked to hit a senior shaft, the salesperson failed to work with me. I was put on a launch monitor and he walked away. I hit balls for half an hour with no feedback or attention. Meanwhile, a guy in the bay next to me was getting every shaft and combo driver from all the manufactures and chatting loudly about how well he had played that day. The store was empty…we were practically the only people at the store and still, I got no attention. I currently play a Ping G30 that is at least 5 or more years old. I know my Swing speed has slowed a bit, so I’m considering some adjustments to my shaft to get the same distance as I did a few years ago…nope, didn’t happen. I had $$ to spend, too. This is typical treatment. I probably knew more about the G400 than the sales kid did. I came away so frustrated and more than convinced that my money is not going to that store. I’ve made fitting appointments and still get a bit of an attitude…and I’m not shy about my golf…but, this is the norm, sadly…

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      Golfho

      6 years ago

      Less tests on womens clubs. Waste of time.

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      Sandra Aronberg

      6 years ago

      Thank you. Limited but it’s a very welcome start. I definitely am interested in reviews of women’s golf equipment and routinely search for information prior to purchasing clubs but usually can’t find anything. Please do more.

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      Jon Compton

      6 years ago

      I’m glad to see you’ve begun looking at women’s clubs, as my wife plays. But also, this data will be interesting to us senior golfers who have slower swing speeds (I’m over 60 yo). Current men’s drivers really don’t cater to our demographic unless we get fitted for lighter shafts and heavier club heads with greater lofts. Accuracy trumps power at our age (60+) except for those who have single digit handicaps already. On longer par 4s, I’m lucky to reach the green in 3. My 5-wood plays almost as long as my driver. Thanks for the article. Looking forward to the new men’s driver evals.

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      James T

      6 years ago

      Interesting. 95% of the comments are from men, self included. Where are the women?

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      TonyG

      6 years ago

      I would be interested to see you include the winner of the Most Wanted Driver Test for Slow Swing Speeds. It may turn out that the Women hit that farther. I saw comments that manufacturers do not cater to women but perhaps they shouldn’t be specifically. It should be all about swing speed and the more emphasis on the shaft. My wife would rather have a club that goes long and straight than a mediocre club that is pretty.

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      ole gray

      6 years ago

      I think it’s awesome you are including women in testing at MGS! My wife KellyBo is a solid golfer who has won two Club Championships (Women’s Division) at different courses. She plays a men’s Ping G30 with a regular shaft and hits it a ton. It would be interesting to see how she would handle the lighter women’s clubs. Her irons are the Callaway Big Bertha (men’s version).

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      Tony Wright

      6 years ago

      Please take my message as a positive. It is great you are trying something here. But the results just scratch the surface. The testers might have achieved better results in a shorter or longer club, a lighter or heavier shaft, a stiffer or softer shaft. So differences with different heads are interesting – but as I said only scratch the surface of what might work for different golfers. I would not say one heard or another for example is better based on the results. Keep at it!

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      Regis

      6 years ago

      Your article implies that the “industry” suffers a huge miss for failing to engage women golfers with advanced testing and launch monitor analysis. Your subscribers (and I happily include myself) are a niche group. But the reality is that the average avid golfer has no interest in being fitted or working on a launch monitor. That is true regardless of whether the golfer belongs to a private club , or bad reasonable access to a proper fitting. Most avid golfers I’ve known couldn’t tell you the weight of their driver shaft (even though it’s on the shaft) or the manufacturer (again). They just don’t care and yadayadayada . If they’re in the market for new clubs they’ll note that Joe (or Sally) has been striping that new Callaway (TMAG, Titleist…). Hey Joe (or Sally) mind if I try that? Schedule a demo with the club or course pro and if they happen to be swinging well that day it gets ordered. (How closely the club that arrives 10 days later matches the club they ordered is and has been handled by other articles). I’m totally invested in proper fitting but the reality is we can’t sell it to most golfers-even avid golfers, male or female. But it’s not the fault of the industry. You do a great job but most avid golfers have no interest in the subject matter in which we revel.

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      william

      6 years ago

      Great idea to include the women on testing. This has to be a first for almost anybody. Keep up the innovative work. This will help women and slower swing speed men and kids.

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      Tony

      6 years ago

      My complements on the start of testing women’s clubs – starting with the driver test. My wife is just as interested in new equipment as I am. If you look at the demographics of our club – the women’s golf association as 3 X the members as our men’s league. Unfortunately the big box stores like GG don’t cater to the women. We need a resource so our significant others can pick the best equipment

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      Dilip Ghosh

      6 years ago

      It’s great that you are testing women’s clubs. We are currently trying our best to workout how to get more women involved in golf. The problem is that everyone thinks its a game for older people and for men. So we need to drastically change the perception and it would be great if you did some tests with young 16-25 year old female golfers and perhaps do a survey on what young girls think about golf and how we go about getting them involved.

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      Michael H

      6 years ago

      Was surprised you used the Bridgestone ball and not a ball designed for slower swing speeds.
      Great writeup and would welcome more testing on women’s clubs as I have 2 young daughters I’d like to get into golf.

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      George Postalian

      6 years ago

      Please expand your testing to include more and a broader range (skill level / variety of handicaps) of female golfers plus a broader range of choices of drivers (inclusive of shafts and head lofts). As this “test” provides very preliminary data, thus it really is a starting point for what should be a more thorough test.

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      Dennis Beach

      6 years ago

      I could probably use women’s clubs with my slow swing speed. Less than 80 max with the driver. Went to a heavier shaft, but stayed with reg. flex for distance and control. Been putting lead tape on my driver and now my big miss is a duck hook, instead of a massive slice-which still happens on occasion. Industry needs to look at heavy drivers for those that need help, and get wild, swinging too fast for their skill level. I’ve been playing since ’98, and my game is a work in progress still. Had it down to where I would shoot high 80’s, and then just could not find tbe fairway. Don’t care about 250-270, just want to be in the fairway at 210-220. Swinging faster and not on the fairway doesn’t cut it for me..

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      Mike K

      6 years ago

      Great write up. I would like to see more for women. Can you look at the fitting aspect for women. I have a 16 year old daughter that lives most guys dream of playing golf daily. She Drives the ball 220 yards and shots high 70’s low 80’s on courses that are around 5800 yards. She wants to play in college and go to college and get a degree tailored for the golf industry. Would be great to hear some ideas about teenagers and women teenagers. some direction in Club selection, fittings, practice drills, training aids and ideas on how to get into the golf industry as a profession.(other than a pro player).

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      Matthew Simone

      6 years ago

      Mike K – With your permission, I’d like to reach out to your daughter and discuss the golf industry, college majors, etc. I work in the industry and would like to help. Feel free to look at my info on LinkedIn .. I’m based in Phoenix.

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      Steve

      6 years ago

      Great job moving to include more women’s equipment. My wife will benefit as she fits right into the middle of the testers’ swing speeds. She recently hit the G400 and G Le on launch monitor. I do not believe the 400 had a comparable shaft. Her numbers were better with the G Le.

      But what if we substituted the G400 Max w a 40gr shaft? It would be very close to the G Le total weight. I know the G Le is a lighter head. Would the heavier head be an advantage over the lighter G Le?

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      Matt Simone

      6 years ago

      Steve – The issue you run into with such a light shaft in the G400 head would be a swing weight that is too high. Higher swing weight is great for the player looking for help with too much draw, but for most can accentuate a fade/slice. The G Le shaft was designed specifically with the head weight to pair to a lighter swing weight and lower total weight to allow a slower speed player to launch the ball a bit better.

      One thing you could try would be to pair a G400 head with a shorter and lighter shaft (43-44”) as that reduces swing weight and could help keep it more manageable.

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      Eddie

      6 years ago

      I love that you guys are looking at women’s clubs. I have been using most of the your reviews on the men’s side to find some clubs that will improve my wife’s game. She recently switched to the Women’s Cobra F7 hybrids and she has been crushing it lately. I’ve been eyeing the XXIO driver for a while but your stats are not dramatically better than the other brands to justify the hefty price tag. This game can get expensive buying and testing equipment blindly and I’m all for more reviews that will help me pinpoint the winners.

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      Tony Wright

      6 years ago

      So – based on this Dave Tutelman formula in this web link which I believe is pretty good….

      https://www.tutelman.com/golf/clubs/Mike1.php

      At 70 mph….

      Optimal carry distance – about 136 Yards

      Optimal total distance – about 170 Yards

      Perhaps suggests great fitting pretty important?

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      BettiBoop

      6 years ago

      Would absolutely love to see more women’s testing. I have a daughter I’d love to get into the game someday and any info that’s published now may just be a great benefit years from now when needed.

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      Steve

      6 years ago

      Please do more testing for women and for junior golf clubs.

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      Andrew Han

      6 years ago

      Recreational golf for women is still a niche market within certain ethnic demographics. Go to Rancho or Griffith Park Golf Courses in LA, and you will see foursomes and up to 50% female golfers in the course, all or mostly Koreans. Other than that, I don’t see many female golfers. That’s my sample and basis for it.

      Based on stats from statistica, the viewership between the LPGA and PGA Tour is about a 1/3 of the PGA Tour. I am curious about the demographics that make up the 11+ million viewers of the LPGA and 32+ mm of the PGA Tour.

      Glad for the reviews, because there are female golfers, but not sure if the market will be large enough to sustain here in the US.

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      don stage

      6 years ago

      We have done extensive testing with kids, seniors, and women. Almost all women do not swing a lighter club faster but do get far more hit from a heavier club. A smooth swinging player can hit longer clubs further, while aggressive hitters hit it further with shorter stiffer clubs no matter their age or sex.

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      don stage

      6 years ago

      Why can manufacturers not wrap their head around the idea of making a driver the loft and weight of a 3 wood for all those players who hit their 3 wood better than the driver. Every time they add loft they make the stupid thing lighter. The vast majority need that weight to actually build speed and get more hit through the ball. Those that do have good swing speed and simply hit the driver out of bounds half the time also need more weight as well as the loft to be able to hit it off a low tee like a 3 wood.

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      Chris Aster

      6 years ago

      Yes, please! As a competitive senior golfing woman, I am so desperately interested in improving my game and getting more objective info about equipment. THANK YOU!

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      Mike Reed

      6 years ago

      My wife is the MOST discriminated against golfer…she is a left-handed women!! All her clubs are from Ping as they offered the best range for left-handed women at the time they were bought. Her driver is an 11 degree (I think bent to 12 degrees) and she would like one with more loft (15-18 degree). I keep looking but have yet to find one.

      More reviews of clubs for women is certainly a good idea…do not forget those that hit from the other side of the ball..as my wife says,”the right side”.

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      Gary

      6 years ago

      Absolutely true. Plus no woman (regardless of age) should hit a driver longer than 43″ unless she is a single digit handicap.

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      David Alan Cheever

      6 years ago

      I’m a lefty man and I play a Ping G2 driver, 15.5 degrees. They are out there.

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      Dave

      6 years ago

      Mike, you got that right … my wife is left handed and the options are extremely limited

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      Susan Eno

      6 years ago

      I read your golf testing often. It’s nice to see some women’s clubs tested. However I think more of a range of women’s golf testers would be more interesting. I play about 100 times a year and very few of the 20 or so women I play with regularly have drive distances this low and these are people with handicaps and ages in the range you stated. I also don’t feel neglected when I visit a golf store although there aren’t many golf stores anymore. I think driving ranges and demo days are a better way to get a feel for new clubs.

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      Einaya

      6 years ago

      Title is misleading. This is closer to Senior Woman most wanted driver (90 yards carry………)!! That being said I do like the direction you are going with this test. Suggestion: Add a more realistic female golfer. You know someone that can carry 180-200 maybe?

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      John

      6 years ago

      Here here!

      Your most wanted tests also capture high and low swing speed players. It should be the same for women.

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      Melissa

      6 years ago

      I agree with the comments. I am a senior woman getting back into golf after a 20 year layoff. A previous club champion, always played men’s short tees and drives then about 235 yards. I am testing new clubs since men’s club are no longer right for me. I am still driving in the 190 to 210 distance range so I feel these club tests are a great start but don’t really help me or many of my women golf playing friends. I was hoping for more shaft flex, etc. ANY testing is better than NONE. My husband who is just taking up golf, would love me to be driving only 134 yards. PLEASE continue with more testing with more women in all age ranges. Unfortunately for me, I will have already made a decision on my new set.

      cksurfdude

      6 years ago

      Yes! Would like to see some head-to-head testing .. and reviews .. of ladies…
      1. Chippers
      2. Wedges
      ..with a bottom line indicating what REALLY works for regular recreational lady players. Thx!

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      G

      6 years ago

      I would love to see more articles on female equipment particularly for better players with swing speeds of 75-85. In the last 2 months, I’ve spent numerous hours on the internet looking for forged wedges – why they don’t make it in women’s length etc. It’s difficult to find any information for female golfers.

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      David Alan Cheever

      6 years ago

      shortening or lengthening your clubs can easily be performed by anyone who changes your grips. Don’t pass up a great club because of it’s length.

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      Dan

      6 years ago

      It’s great that you’re testing women’s clubs. Keep it up!

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      grayce

      6 years ago

      What’s in your wife’s bag is similar to mine. I have the Titleist 10* 917D2 Driver, 917F2 16.5 and 21 Wood, TM Rescue 4 Hybrid, Titles AP1 712 Irons 5-P, Callaway V Forged wedges 54-11 & 58 and Scotty Newport 2 putter. I was stalking the Evnroll ER2 putter, but stayed with the Scotty. :)

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      Tony Wright

      6 years ago

      Good going for performing this testing, thanks.

      I do have a question. The apex data that you have showed – I believe maximum height correct? – are in the range of 20 feet. Seems low by a lot…..can you please check these numbers and be sure they are correct? I would expect these to be a lot higher than 20 feet for optimizing distance.

      Thanks.

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      Tony Covey

      6 years ago

      Yes. Apex is Yards. I had a couple of issues with the charts and had to revert to a previous version. I’ll update as soon as possible.

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      Tony Wright

      6 years ago

      Tony thanks for your quick reply and see that the update to the chart already done….

      Michael Pasquill

      6 years ago

      I would like to see more women club testing they are a growing part of the golfing community and they are very much ignored by the manufactures, I also think that senior players are also in that group or better said those of us that swing under 85 mph meaning 80 and less. Those of us that those swings are ignored too. But I have seen more women taking up the game just from my working at a Par 3 course. The reality is that there are more women than men in the world and many of them are taking up the game.

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      Rose S

      6 years ago

      I’m so heartened by this testing of women’s golf equipment. I struggle with equipment issues and really have no where to turn to get answers. Please continue! Lady oldsters like us are definitely an untapped market.

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      strokerAce

      6 years ago

      KUDOS! to the staff at MyGolfSpy for performing this test. I don’t know any ladies who play but I’m really happy to see these types of tests being done. This type of testing and out-of-the-norm thinking is exactly why MGS continues to be #1.
      Well done.

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      john faieta

      6 years ago

      I would love to see more realistic women reviews. 65mph swing speed is pretty low. Maybe mix in some better players. I was hoping to use this as a guide for fitting my 11 year old daughter with a new driver but she swings at 85-87 mph so i don’t know how much relevance it has.

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      Dan

      6 years ago

      At that swing speed, you might be pleasantly surprised by the results of a G Le or 12 degree SF tech with an Alta 55 CB regular flex shaft.

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      Kenny B

      6 years ago

      I fully support more testing of women’s clubs. My wife has been playing for 53 years, and is probably in the same bracket as the testers. But be careful when you test women’s clubs with testers that have higher swing speeds. My wife used to play senior men’s clubs (still does in irons), but now she needs a ladies flex in the woods to maximize distance. When swing speeds get up to mid-70’s and low 80’s, women would be better to look at senior flex.

      I like the idea of including men and women testing together when the parameters are softer flex clubs meant for slower swing speeds.

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      Dandaman

      6 years ago

      I think it’s great you are serving this group of golfers. From my own limited observations I think it’s a faster growing group than men. Keep it up!
      One question on the data as presented. Are the peak heights accurate? 10 FEET seems low based upon the ladies I’ve golfed with or watched on the range.

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      Josh

      6 years ago

      Check the chart again; the apexes are given in yards.

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      Dandaman

      6 years ago

      Awesome Thank You, it looks like it has been corrected now. I assumed it was supposed to be yards when I noticed the error and was just pointing it out to be fixed.

      Heather D

      6 years ago

      Fastest growing segment of Golf is female. For the Big Companies to not tap into that is appalling… Secondly, just because we are women doesn’t necessarily mean the equipment we use needs to be “dumbed down”. More testing!

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      Spitfisher

      6 years ago

      I like the idea of the test, too bad it was such a small sample size of 3 drivers. I know there are more women specific heads out there.

      IMO An ideal driver for most women- but not all.

      12-15 degrees, 41-42 inches in length, <45 gram shaft, with a heavy draw bias.

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      Jacob Bassing

      6 years ago

      Thanks for this review. I think more reviews for women’s equipment would be nice. My wife plays but I don’t ever know if the equipment she has is any good for her. We have access to very limited retail options and no launch monitor data where we live. So this was insightful.

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      Regan

      6 years ago

      Very nice to see this test and the evaluations and commentary. Hope to see more tests for women’s clubs throughout the bag. Such a large segment of the golf community deserves it. Keep up the good work.

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      John Muir

      6 years ago

      I’d like to see more testing and also include a comparison with their current drivers. Most of the women (and senior men) at my course are playing 9.5 or 10.5 loft drivers with stiff/heavy shafts and can’t figure out why they hit line drives a few feet off the ground off the tee and are worn out at the end of a round. Keep up the good work.

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      Aimee

      6 years ago

      Really good to see the female side of the golfing world! It’s always difficult to get hold of information so the more testing the better!!

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      Bob

      6 years ago

      Fortuitous. My wife and I just discussed the two of use signing up for a fitting soon. She is a 27 handicap and has never been fitted. Driver goes 160 max as she is barely 5 ft. tall. I am anxious to see if fitting makes any difference and would really like to see if a longer driver shaft gives her some length without sacrificing accuracy. With the slow swing speeds, the variance between clubs (irons) is very small. On my observation the carry on her 7, 8 and 9 irons is only a few yards different, but the roll out is longer with the lower loft. Back spin is minimal. Love to see more drivers tested for ladies and especially if you begin to see what happens with the slow swing speeds with different lofts and shaft lengths.

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      Scott Freeman

      6 years ago

      My wife took up the game last year at 34. She is athletic, has a high swing speed and hits it a mile when she puts a good swing on it. Very handy to have on your scramble team! I believe younger women are the target market for the golf companies, even though due to her age she is in the minority at our golf club. I agree that the golf companies might be out of touch with their own market.

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      McaseyM

      6 years ago

      Thank you for initiating this testing! As a father of 3 little ladies, I look forward to introducing them to the game and hope that some of my passion rubs off on them. As much as people are down on PXG, Parsons is supporting women’s college Golf better than most OEMs by giving the ladies the same fitting experience and equipment options as the men, versus just a token discount.
      I wonder if some men’s Heads with adjustable weight systems could utilize lighter weights for a women’s version? Based on this very limited sample pointing to the possible need for higher lofts, the adjustable dynamic loft systems most drivers have now could be utilized to make a higher lofted driver with adjustable weights. I realize there is a lot of engineering and material R&D and knowledge I am severely lacking, but maybe??
      Thankfully, my dad made the generous mistake of saying he’d take care of my daughters’ sporting equipment needs

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      G

      6 years ago

      Definitely, do a larger test. It is extremely difficult picking out clubs for women – given the limited offerings. Would be neat if you added some of the men’s game improvement drivers into the testing (Ping g400 sft or Max would be interesting to see) . Maybe use a popular ladies ball in the testing as well.

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      Brad

      6 years ago

      Yes, I would like to see more women’s equipment testing occasionally. In the market for new clubs for the Mrs and that would be helpful.

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      ChristopherKee

      6 years ago

      Great review. Any of these look like they would be fantastic for the young at heart. I like how the Cobra driver launches hight and gets it left.

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      Grant

      6 years ago

      This was an interesting read. I definitely say keep doing the women’s testing! They are definitely an understated demographic in the golfing world and could easily benefit from MGS testing!

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      Stephanie Eacott

      6 years ago

      Yes please show more club test’s for women. I also agree that manufacturers do not take women golfers seriously.

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      Mark

      6 years ago

      My wife would love to see more women’s gear testing. She would echo the sentiments of the 5 ladies in your test group.

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      JanettMarie

      6 years ago

      Wow! Nice to read numbers ladies can relate to. Sounds like you learned exactly what happens to ladies when trying buy golf clubs.
      How many times have I walked out of a golf store with nothing ( I really wanted that new club, too) because of the way I was …not helped. Whose loss is it anyway?
      Thanks MyGolfSpy!
      PS: I’m an engineer, I love numbers!

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      Charles Carpenter

      6 years ago

      I have sent requests to you in the past to perform some women testing. My wife is 59 yrs old, but plays every day and supports a single digit handicap. Her bag consists of: TM M2 10* Driver, Titleist 917F2 16* 3 Wood, Calloway GBB 5 & 7 Woods, Sonartec T.R.C. 20*, Titleist AP1 714 Irons 5-P, Fourteen DJ-22 47* & DJ-22 54* Wedges, and putts with an Evnroll ER2 Putter. Her interest is in the higher end clubs with women shafts vs clubs designed specifically for women. Hopefully, you will have some definitive testing in the future. Thanks for what you have started, so far!

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      Eric

      6 years ago

      Love seeing this review! I have found that doing research on women’s equipment is tough and there is very limited information. I ended up getting my wife the “women’s” Epic with the highest loft they offered (13.5) and then added 2 degrees with the adjustment. We took 1/2 inch off the shaft and she’s hitting it higher and further than her previous women’s driver. I am looking for a driver for my 15 year old daughter and we will probably stick to standard driver and making the adjustments needed.

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      Jasper

      6 years ago

      I would love to see more info on women’s equipment, my wife’s average drive is around 175 yards and she’s only 5’1″. She putts well too but has a hard time getting any height with her irons.

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      McaseyM

      6 years ago

      That’s awesome that your wife golf , mine took lessons but was never really interested. Maybe a shaft issue with her ball flight?

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      Jasper

      6 years ago

      Yeah it’s awesome! I get to play more than I ever have and her tee ball is long enough on our courses that she’s made her way onto our captains choice team.

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