First Look – 2018 TaylorMade M3 Driver
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First Look – 2018 TaylorMade M3 Driver

First Look – 2018 TaylorMade M3 Driver

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Instagram user MSTGOLF has posted the first pics of the upcoming TaylorMade M3 driver.

The new model appears to leverage a chassis construction similar to what TaylorMade has used in the last several iterations of drivers, however, the track weighting system has been updated with a unique Y-shaped design. The updated design would presumably allow for a slight amount of either fade or draw bias, while placing both weights in the rear should boost MOI by an appreciable amount.

The apparent emphasis on greater forgiveness suggests TaylorMade may be done with low/forward CG in its 460cc models and instead may be following PING, Cobra, and PXG into the higher MOI space. For players with a legitimate need for lower spin, the upcoming M3 440 remains an option.

Like the M4, the M3 will feature ball speed preserving Hammerhead technology.

Sources have told us that new M-series also features a new (for TaylorMade) Twist Face technology. Functionally you can think of it as offset or tilted bulge and roll. Unlike conventional designs where the face roll is perpendicular to the horizontal face center, TaylorMade has twisted it a bit in an attempt to make it nearer to perpendicular (relative to the ground plane) at impact. Basically, TaylorMade is attempting to get better performance by designing its bulge and roll radii for how the face is positioned at impact (toe down relative to address) rather than how its oriented before you swing (conventionally square).

It’s a solid idea, though I’d be remiss not to point out that what we’ve heard doesn’t sound significantly different than how Cobra mills the bulge and roll in its new F8 drivers.

The official announcement along with pricing information is expected in early January.

 

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      Rick Sandretto

      6 years ago

      Got fitted for a new driver yesterday. Took my Epic and hit 5 others with various shafts and weights. I consistently hit the M3 20 yards farther than the others with a Tensi Stiff 50 gram shaft. The numbers didn’t lie. So, I had to order one.

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      ''Cubby''

      6 years ago

      Nothing replaces understanding of the Golf swing,99@ 9 @1/10th ? dont have a clue of what is right for them ,and they never dig deep enough .. Tiger Woods was off at the bottom less than a 1/2 deg last weekend .Was it the Driver ”No” it was set up and Mechanics. I play a TaylorMade M2 9.5 Atmos 5X Love where we are .. 3 hours a day in gym …

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      Tom S

      6 years ago

      Any idea when and by how much the 2017 M2 driver will be discounted?

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      Rpwinaz

      6 years ago

      It is interesting taylormade is bringing attention to its wood club faces. Pick up any one of them off the rack and look at the bulge and roll. Flat spots and even concave areas are the norm. Poor quality control. That being said, I game the m1 3 wood. I had to look thru 6 of them before finding a face that was acceptable.

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      AndyM

      6 years ago

      I’ve just read comments on PXGs and here and am amazed that an audience apparently wanting hard facts vents so much venom presumably based on envy.

      Surely if you think you might need a new club the way to do it is get some objective info here and then go test them. End of. Also remember the lesson here on drivers. Even if there was agreement on the best driver for PGA tour players with their skill and swing speed it does not make it there best driver for most of us with our swing speeds.

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      Jose ProSe

      6 years ago

      I don’t get all vitriol aimed at club makers. If you get duped by marketing it’s on you. How difficult is it to compare a new club to your existing club on track man. If the improvement is worth the $ you buy. If not you don’t.

      It’s free market capitalism. Stop whining like a commie undergrad.

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      Alex

      6 years ago

      Why do golfers hate that club manufacturer’s come out with new equipment every year? Do you also hate Audi, BMW, and Range Rover for coming out with a “new” slightly updated car every year?

      Personally I would not want to use equipment from a company who is stagnant and not constantly trying to improve product.

      Does this mean I’m going to trade in my 2016 M1’s? Probably not but then I still have an iPhone 6….. For now :)

      Point being that drivers are like cars and phones. You can use the same one for 15 years, keep up with the Jones’ and get the latest and greatest every year, or do what most people do and get a new one every few years.

      And quit whining about $500 for a driver. That averages out to the cost of one golf ball per round over 4 years.

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      ML P

      6 years ago

      I have owned only 2 drivers in the last 12 yrs . I refuse to pay $500 for a golf club , when I do buy one it’s on sale. Before I spend that kind of money I put a new shaft in . ( A hole lot cheaper ) When I play with my son and he’s buddy’s they make me play from the same tee as they do they will not let me use the senior ( 68 ) still hit it 250 +. I’m now playing a Cobra Bio-cell , when I bought it I payed $129 on sale from Dick’s .

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      Bogeyboi

      6 years ago

      Same here – still hitting my 913D2 that I bought for $150 from Edwin Watts (their demo) right when the 917s came out. Don’t understand paying that much for a driver especially since TM releases a new one every 6 months (and each promised the same thing). SMH

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      Mark Carey

      6 years ago

      Pricing in 2018 – probably the first $800 driver

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      Richard Clark

      6 years ago

      Nope. M3 same as last years M1 and M4 is $30 more.

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      Greg P

      6 years ago

      Can’t wait.

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      capecodbeachfrontgolfer

      6 years ago

      Damn…. made so much $$$$$$ from the Trump election and Bitcoin I need to spend it somewhere. New M’s seem like a sensible way to go. Plus I get to buy new again in 6 months…when my golf season here in the north actually starts again. Until then I will pay $30+ an hour to hit into a wall 12 foot in front of me. Golf is truly the only sport I can enjoy… Can not for the life of me see why more people don’t golf?

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      Louis Pounds

      6 years ago

      Lol, well, I didn’t make money via Bitcoin, however, I fear no debt so I will also buy clubs now to seeing in the garage or freeze at our local driving range until February comes and I trade my M3 in for the M5 ( I will skip the January M4 release) and hit the M5 on the course until May when Callaway releases the Epic IV and then start over again. Well said!!

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      FTWPhil

      6 years ago

      Your money is not worth a thing, if you don’t spend it!

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      MikeyB

      6 years ago

      Soooo, let’s see. Weights that you can split? You can create draw or fade bias? You can push them together to try and reduce spin? This REALLY sounds familiar….I’m thinking ‘pirates’ for some reason. Yarrrr? Arrrrr? Rrrrr?

      R15!!! That’s it! Welcome to R15-2 aka M f*cking Four, and ANOTHER way for TM to take your money. Obviously the M1/M2 ‘experiment’ must have been lacking or else why would you put lipstick on the R15 and pretend it was better?

      Kinda like when Cleveland brought out their wedges last season and said after THIRTY YEARS of taking your money their engineering dept ‘discovered’ the CG of the club was in the wrong place!

      So what’s the message club companies??? You finally got it right THIS time?

      *eyeroll*

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      John

      6 years ago

      MIKEYB, I have to agree.
      Those are educated and well written words.

      I believe in the golf ball. Go out and get fitted to a golf ball.
      3 piece has made all difference.

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      SirShives

      6 years ago

      The should paint the sole like the South African flag. ??

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      Scotty

      6 years ago

      Good call.

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      Cace Smith

      6 years ago

      Another day, another driver from the TM and Callaway.

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      P.T. Driver

      6 years ago

      To All the current M1 & M 2 owners… That new club you bought….. Sorry to say… It just got really old….

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      Ron Sims

      6 years ago

      Cannibal marketing…

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      Golfpro

      6 years ago

      Love all the misinformed Taylormade haters on here … The M Series drivers and fairways are excellent performing clubs that hit the ball a mile . To hate on them over product cycles is the stupidest thing I ever heard of . The look alone of the m-series stuff is Iconic on tour and how many tournaments has the m-series won in the last two years ??? You guys act like its all junk with a fancy paint job … Sad your all missing out …

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      Nathan Close

      6 years ago

      Spot on! ?

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      ibo

      6 years ago

      If the COR is .830 this club “can’t hit it a mile” compared to a 2014 Mizuno driver, for example. No.

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      Boyo

      6 years ago

      Iconic on tour? How about all the paid ho’s? That’s what it’s all about.

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      Mario Da Rocha

      6 years ago

      Too Bad our wives don’t come out as a new and improved model each year!

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      Michael Shaffner

      6 years ago

      Yet AGAIN..$499

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      Matt Peterson

      6 years ago

      But then the M4 comes out with no adjustments at all on the head and it’s better. Fricking marketers.

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      xjohnx

      6 years ago

      You do know they made drivers without adjustability for about 100 years right?

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      Chad Mardesen

      6 years ago

      Eh. I’d have to hit it and look at the numbers, but it appears that if you want fade or draw bias, you also have to add more launch. That doesn’t make much sense.

      They’ll struggle as always with cleaning up and netting down the heads already (M1 & M2) in market. Ultimately the performance is never good enough (since the RBZ) to overshadow their horrible discount programs.

      The issue with TM isn’t their tech…it’s with senior management. KPS bought them for pennies on the dollar because they were losing millions each year. And yet, senior management (who is responsible for losing said millions) is still there.

      What’s that phrase about doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?

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      Ol'pal Gary

      6 years ago

      I also have never understood this; Keep the Losers who guided the product to fiscal damnation & / or give them millions $$$$$$ to leave the company !! If they did a bad job, fire their asses & move on..
      Just like Congress should do to the ”Trumpster” !!!!!

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      Bob Wallis

      6 years ago

      Looks AWESOME!!! Can’t wait to get one.

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      Pedro Clarke

      6 years ago

      Waiting for the M6.

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      Dakota Jones

      6 years ago

      I hate Taylormade, but the weight track on this thing makes so much more sense and is more versatile. I still will probably hate the sound and feel.

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      Antony Cotchobos

      6 years ago

      Guys loose this shit with golf equipment, if what you have is working, use it! If it isn’t then change it. Too many golfers need to have the newest and latest version of a club regardless of how they game it. Focus on the swing and what gets you the lowest score not what’s coming out next!

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      Dave Stewart

      6 years ago

      Waiting on the M7

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      Rob

      6 years ago

      I am done with the annual updates. I have figured out what works for me and assembled my Florida, NJ shore and home sets mostly from used club retailers. As a result, I am focusing on ancient 2012 technology for hybrids and fairway woods ( cobra t rail) and I have no doubt lost an average of 4o or more yards in driving distance by missing the several generations of drivers that add 7 to 10 yards per year to my driving distance. I will look forward to buying 2016 and 2017 M3 in about 2020 from 3 Balls Golf os some similar venue for $70.

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      Mr Money

      6 years ago

      I’m sure that the golf industry (like like a plethora of other industries) is making products for “the guy/gal that didn’t buy the last model”. You cannot expect them to sit on their asses for a long period of time without releasing something. The bigger the company, the more overhead that is needed.

      Golf has also kind of f’ed itself in the rear with how strict the USGA rules are for making “legal” clubs. If some of those constraints were lifted/adjusted, you might see more smaller companies pop up and try to get into the game. More companies with more spread out numbers is better than 3 or so that have a crap ton of resources and have to crank out products every 2 months to keep up with running the damn thing.

      Seth Phifer

      6 years ago

      Looks like a BMW to me. Copyright infringement will be on TM doorstep soon . It does look good though!

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      Jeff Shih

      6 years ago

      If every club is 13 yards longer than its predecessor, then why the F am I not hitting it 863.9 yards already?

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      Milton Taylor

      6 years ago

      Bravo!!! Jeff… Bravo

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      Dave

      6 years ago

      You must have not kept up buying every year like I have. My ave drive since upgrading every year for 4 years is now 999 yds, only because I buy the new ball too. The problem I now have is this , my wedge now goes 300 yds and I can’t find a course long enough to fit my game!!

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      Robbie Galt

      6 years ago

      Absolutely shocking ripping off golf fans they need to look at themselves. At least titliest alternate there products.

      Just bought the new 2017 model at the start of the year now not a happy camper.

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      Nick Solheim

      6 years ago

      Who cares what the manufactures do. Find a club you can pound and game it. Technology advances don’t improve enough from year to year to warrant a change. Realistically you can go 5+ years before advancements start to make the gamers obsolete. I still use a Titleist 910 D2 and still fly that old dog 270 on the carry though it’s probably about time to start a search for a replacement with a little lower spin rate.

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      Boyo

      6 years ago

      Right on. I had a Ping G15 with an Aldila Serrano shaft. Killed it. Finally bought a Cobra I used for a few years. Thought I hit it pretty good. Last summer I took them both out on the range and the Ping went back in the bag. I realized that that Serrano shaft seemed to be built for me. The G15 is still in the bag.

      Mike Berlin

      6 years ago

      Why are you upset? EVERY major OEM (save a select few) releases new product every year. Does the 2017 model not perform well for you?

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      FTWPhil

      6 years ago

      How is this any different from any other products released on a yearly cycle?

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      Tony Covey

      6 years ago

      This is a fair question. It appears TaylorMade has settled into a reasonable 1-year product cycle for its 3 driver models. Couple that with what appears to be responsible inventory management that has eliminated mid-cycle slash and burn pricing.

      Some – well, at least Titleist – still have a 2-year cycle on their drivers, but invariably Titleist loses market share in its 2nd year, which it can offset with the strength of the ball. Nobody else in the industry has that luxury.

      Jon D

      6 years ago

      I miss the days of mid cycle, slash and burn pricing. I used always wait and take advantage by just waiting a little while and not immediately succumbing to the lure of immediate gratification.

      The good old days are over in that regard, currently it looks like the 2017 M1 is about $50 less than what it started out at, not a big drop. The 2016 M2 is about $200 less than that so half price. But it is two years old. There were differences between the 2016 and 2017 versions but not a lot. It was really smart to tweak the M1, so that it didn’t seem old and thus it did need to be marked down so quickly.

      Smart business decision on TM’s part.

      Still TMs revenue has seen better days. I think it boils down to the fact that your average hacker just won’t pay $500 every couple of years for a new driver for marginal gains in performance. Gains that seem to be increasing at a decreasing rate as time goes on.

      Unless there is a real breakthrough it doesn’t seem that technology is going to be able to wring out the kind of improvements that are necessary to drive sales in the numbers that all the OEMs would like.

      Therefore they are stuck fighting for a bigger piece of the same sized pie. So TM’s strategy seems to be as good as it can be in this environment.

      Nathan Close

      6 years ago

      Exactly!!! How do they feel about cars computers, white goods etc etc!
      Lets just stop companies frim making money and all of us will have nothing available to purchase!! Get over it flogs!

      Steve S

      6 years ago

      I get where your coming from.
      If people only realise the manufacturer is there to make money they might stop and think it at least compare their driver to new ones before purchasing the new version!
      I still play a Bio Cell because every year I have taken it along when I try anew driver and so far only found 2 that are a minuscule better( not £400 better!).
      Try and look at it this way, let the rich idiots buy a new one each year and fund the development of your next one? Don’t buy it the day it is released Waight a year and get the same driver half price?

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      simms

      6 years ago

      Come on rich idiots or just guys/gals that love golf as much as most of us do and can afford playing what they want….who does not get a thrill out of a new sleeve of golf balls, or going to play a new course?? Most of us play golf at the best level we can and that includes our equipment and courses we play….

      Rizzo

      6 years ago

      If what you have works for you, why do you care so much about the new model?

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      Eric

      6 years ago

      Serioulsy.. people are complaining about new product like they’re required to buy it. YOU DON’T HAVE TO BUY THE NEWEST CLUB IF YOU LIKE THE ONE YOU HAVE!

      Ol'pal Gary

      6 years ago

      I think all the guys complaining about another yr. another driver.

      You may not have noticed but car manufacturers replace their models every year also…
      I’m already focused on the new Mustang GT with more HP & performance & 10 speed Auto Transmission
      The ’18 model with these changes is 1st one to tempt me from my ’14 Convertible.

      Scott Stewart

      6 years ago

      I’d rather have a new option every year than two years between drivers that seem the same. I hit my original XHot better and just as far as all the new drivers anyways.

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      Dakota Jones

      6 years ago

      I don’t get why you are mad. It is well known that Taylormade is on a 1 year release cycle with their equipment. If you want something that is going to stay current for longer go Ping or Titleist. I just buy older used equipment that performs for me. While you are out paying hundreds of dollars I get a driver that performs just as well and a years worth of lessons for less than half of what you paid. Then when I get bored of the driver I sell it (for what it I bought it for) and try something else.

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      Painter33

      6 years ago

      Agree. I “upgraded” to Ping S55 irons, threw in some better shafts for me (cheap thrill) and have the irons I’ve been salivating for. I stopped buying new cars a bout 15 yrs ago and have been very happy with off-lease Audis – filled w/every bell and whistle at nearly half the cost!

      Andy Mickelson

      6 years ago

      You might want to compare sales figures to support having Callaway or Taylormade to follow Titleist standards of production. That’s like saying Coke or Pepsi should do what Diet Rite is doing. It’s Callaway, Taylormade a huge gap, then all the others.

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      Steve

      6 years ago

      Do you run out and buy a new car of the same model/brand every year?
      So why do it with a driver. I doubt you will gain any significant benefits unless your present driver was not properly fit.
      Take the time and find a good club fitter who can put you in the right equipment even if it is an older model.
      I was just fitted and settled on a two year old model Wilson Staff driver. Hit it as good as the new stuff and it only cost $120. With the savings I can play some very nice courses next year.

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      Andy A.

      6 years ago

      I have tried all the drivers through the years. Two stand out, the Ping Rapture and the Nickent 3DX Tour Spec. Some come close but none are as long or forgiving. I will keep my driver’s and my money. I have tried Taylormade, and although some are ok . They don’t exceed what I already have. And even if they hit the ball 7 yards longer I still wouldn’t spend $500. IMHO

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      Chip Yang

      6 years ago

      Must be trying to attract M3 drivers…

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      Jerryboy

      6 years ago

      429.99 M4
      499.99 M3
      Feb. 16th

      Twist Face = more loft/open high toe to increase spin and straighten out shot shape. Less loft on heel to counteract high spin shot.

      M3 rescue now 2 tone but without composite.

      Tensi shafts.

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      Garret Roach

      6 years ago

      Like many of you posting here, I used to absolutely despise Taylor Made. I hated they pushed out new products so quickly and forced the hand of many stores to carry more inventory than they needed, thus having a massive negative effect on the hard goods industry. That is also their job to push new equipment and say it’s better than the previous model. They are not unique with this approach. Other golf companies do this, and certainly many other industries. If you are buying equipment for some sort of future equity, that’s your own mistake. Lastly, test the equipment yourself. Don’t rely on marketing hype and let that get you riled up. I put my own ego aside and recently went through a very exhaustive driver fitting and I almost pulled the trigger on the M1. We decided to wait and hit it against the M3 next month just to make sure its not a better performer for me. My current driver is 3 years old. The M1 was truly 10 yards longer. Try it. Like me, you too could be singing a different tune.

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      Brett

      6 years ago

      Garrett Roach….EXACTLY!!!
      I’m not loyal to any brand. That being said, I played the TM RBZ Stage 2 Tour driver for a few years. Hated the R15 and SLDR. LOVED the M1 and eventually put the M1 in play AFTER they released the 2017 model. Why? It was discounted to a price that was good for me. TM releasing multiple models a year actually BENEFITED my pocket book. Why in the world would I care if TM or Callaway or any company flooded the market with product?? I LOVE it! Better prices for me and my buddies. I really don’t understand the negativity UNLESS you’re in the golf club sales business. 99% of those reading this are not in that industry so why do they care. Go test EVERY club and decide which is best for YOUR game, regardless of the brand name. Launch monitor numbers don’t lie (the high end monitors, not the Superstore monitors). I play TM woods, Srixon irons, Cleveland wedges and an Adams putter. Vice Pro+ balls. Currently considering a switch to Callaway EPIC driver as it’s more forgiving than the M1 (with the same shaft) even though it’s a couple of yards shorter. Haven’t decided yet. The Srixon 565 driver is also very accurate for me. 0.5 handicap still trying to get to scratch (NEVER been there, yet).
      To me, it seems like to MORE clubs that come out, the better deal the consumer gets from the previous model. WHY is that bad for the consumer? What am I missing?

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      Jerryboy

      6 years ago

      499.99 for M3
      429.99 for M4

      Twist Face = more loft and open on high toe less loft on inside heel to make for straighter.

      Aerodynamic slight on top tow of crown (hardly noticeable)

      No major difference in fairways and hybrids.

      M3 hybrid now has two time paint scheme (no composite)

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      Brendy Brown

      6 years ago

      Prob another 10 yards longer than last years, not be long till where all hitting it further than joe miller, load of balls

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      Bob

      6 years ago

      Fantasy: all the major golf manufacturers announced today they would not be releasing new drivers this year, they said there was nothing they could do to the drivers that would add more than 2 yards. They further stated that $400 was too much to pay for only 2 yards so consumers should keep their old drivers until oem’s could deliver some real improvments instead of fancy paint and gimmicks. Time for me to wake up now

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      Tony Covey

      6 years ago

      $400? Try $500. Errbody needs bigger margins.

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      Daniel Boisvert

      6 years ago

      Taylormade needs some new designers/ engineers. Same shit different month. Flooding the market per usual. #TeamPING

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      xjohnx

      6 years ago

      Would have been hilarious is you were #TeamTitleist

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      Karl Brouillette

      6 years ago

      So let’s see if I get this straight..!!In 2017 I just bought a new 2017 VW Golf Alltrack for and now I’m supposed to be pissed at VW for bringing out a 2018 model. What’s wrong with you guys, your club doesn’t become obsolete just because there’s something new on the market. If you like what you got keep it and pipe down already…otherwise go out and buy the new one.
      Cheers

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      Bob

      6 years ago

      I get a kick out of some of these people, Taylormade releases a new driver and they go nuts, it seems some people just don’t want Taylormade to release new equipment. But they seem to forget Callaway just announced 3 new releases combine that with the 3 or 4 they already released this year that brings it to 6 or 7 drivers just this year for callawway. Where are these guys now

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      xjohnx

      6 years ago

      You need a calendar buddy. You’re way off.

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      Bob

      6 years ago

      I’m sorry, I thought it was still 2017. I guess I was wrong saying it was 7 new drivers, “Well whadda you know” has it figured to be 9 this year

      xjohnx

      6 years ago

      Callaway has released exactly 3 drivers (in the US) in 2017. The same number as Taylormade. And both company’s new models that you are referencing are being released in 2018. You counted the new Callaway clubs in with this year and TaylorMade’s into next year. You’re confusing announcement dates and release dates. But if you do that for one, you need to do it for both.

      Xjohnx

      6 years ago

      And just to correct myself a bit as well. None of these drivers have actually been announced yet by the vendors.

      Frank Cole

      6 years ago

      I just hit it, goes straighter and longer. Sorry haters

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      Boyo

      6 years ago

      Move to about 12:18 for the stats.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOoyBoHPVzs

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      bob

      6 years ago

      Forget the BMW M/// trademark issue…..that Y track is nothing more than the scientifically perfected Flux Capacitor from the Delorean in Back to the Future.

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      Stephen Pearcy

      6 years ago

      Club design is not rocket science, at least not NASA rocket science. So club manufacturers, at least the ones who care about performance, know everything they could do (within the consraints of the USGA). However, they can’t stuff all that into one design because what is optimal for one player is not for another. So they just keep varying the design, which is better for some and worse for others. Just keep buying those clubs and eventually you’ll get one that you think is better for you. And, of course, next year as your swing changes ever so slightly you can repeat the process. Probably shouldn’t carry your wallet as, when it gets lightened, it may affect your swing.

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      MLuchy

      6 years ago

      Running with the theme….
      BMW’s new 2018 M3 is going for $70,000.
      See what a bargain TaylorMade’s new M3 will be by comparison?

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      Dan

      6 years ago

      It looks like something a child made for an art project at school… I’ll be sticking with my M2 for now. Those sparkling new blades they made however… :P

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      Golfinnut

      6 years ago

      It’s a bird, it’s a plane, no it’s a car …. it’s another driver from TM! The ultimate driving machine

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      Mike Wales

      6 years ago

      The thing that interests me with this driver is that the draw and fade bias is finally in the back of the driver. With them having it up towards the face in the past, I feel like it has made their drivers extremely unforgiving in the past. Granted, that’s why they’ve had the M2 the past few years, but I feel like they are trying to appeal to a wider market by putting those settings farther back. I’d be curious on a head to head with Callaway’s Great Big Bertha driver, pre Epic.

      I’d also be curious on how easily those weights navigate the intersection. If there will be complaints about the weights getting stuck in weird angles, or them dropping out of the driver and people losing them. Granted Mizuno has weights that are designed to slide out, but people are expecting those to come out.

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      Fergus Harrold

      6 years ago

      I see nothing dramatic in it at all
      More phased releases from tm with each new model better than the older one
      I’ll stick with my Titleist thanks
      But don’t mess with the tp5x ball please

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      Alan

      6 years ago

      Don’t you find it a bit interesting that TM has now totally abandoned its weight forward, low spin, high launch angle approach to maximizing distance. I recall they touted for the average golfer a 17 degree launch angle just two years ago.

      As far as the “Y” track goes, it achieves the same benefit as a Cali track or a PGX selective weight placement. What is sooo revolutionary?? more weight in the toe or heel for a fade or draw bias. Gee, TM had the same effect with their “TLC” system over a decade ago ! So big deal, you had to use the wrench to move each individual weight.

      It seems to me IMHO, that the improvements/innovations being rolled out now are really more enhancements rather than breakthrough disruptive changes.

      It’s clear that TM, Cali, Ping, Titleist, Mizuno, etc. need to sell new product every year or die. But the hype and promises of improved performance associated with it are concerning.

      The big structural issue manufactures need to REALLY address is how to be successful in a shrinking market due to an aging golf population and the length of time & cost it takes to play the game !!!!

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      Skip

      6 years ago

      To be fair, I don’t see anywhere in the article that states this Y-Track is revolutionary at all. Get used to it, there hasn’t been anything revolutionary since club faces were made to the .830 COR limit, and CG placements were better understood.

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      Max

      6 years ago

      Looks pretty fun. I think a lot of us would be super interested in mygolfspy doing a test on Taylormade tour issue heads vs. retail heads. Give us the whole run down of head weight, differences in COR, sound, feel, and any performance differences. Basically, if there are any measurable differences in specs and/or performance. The one underlying rumor floating out there for us golf nerds regarding TM is that their tour issue heads are night and day better than retail. I think you guys could do a great service in shedding light into that.

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      SCOTT

      6 years ago

      New tax plan coming out of congress today I hear allows you deduct 100% out of pocket expenses for Taylor made drivers being released in 2018. This is a no brainer.

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      Ding-dong

      6 years ago

      I see a lot of reactions everytime a manufactor release something new.

      Since I work in the business I thougt I’d share some insight.

      Every manufactor work with different cycles and segments. There are different segments obviously. Clubs for great players to clubs for beginners.

      They all release them in different cycles so they almost always have something new to release.

      Every manufactor also release after these three cycles. 12, 18 and 24 months.

      Looking at Callaway for example which a lot of people comment on. Their new woods are replacing the XR16 and Fushion series. Not the Epic.

      Since they’re are placed in different segments they are actually not releasing so often that people think.

      There are only two manufactors which are doing 12 months cycles. Taylor Made and Cobra.

      Every other release after 18 or 24 months. It’s easy to see their pattern tracking back a manufactors earlier releases.

      As an example Titleist released their new irons this year so it’s not a chocker seeing they even name their releases with 2 digits between (712, 714 and 716 etc). Same with Srixon for example with their 745 and 765.

      Some manufactors release everything at once as Titleist. One year woods. Next year irons. Some release irons every year but in different segments such as Ping for example.

      So again it’s pretty easy to learn their cycles and when different types of clubs will release.

      Last but not least if some it’s ”right” or not is up for every consumer to decide. Companies like Cobra and TM works hard to release new stuff every year since they think that’s the right way to esrn their money. Because in the end of the day that’s what it’s all about as eveything else.

      Earning money. If you don’t want to give them their money don’t buy it.

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      Andrew Han

      6 years ago

      Thanks for the insight. I too don’t understand the visceral towards new releases. Companies, as pointed out by Tony, don’t have the luxury of a 24 month cycle. Also, there is always a customer looking to replace a club or get into golf.

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      robin

      6 years ago

      Finally higher moi . Taylormade should make one driver with high moi per release scene adams is no longer around.

      Reply

      Brett Weir

      6 years ago

      They can reinvent the wheel only so many times…

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      Donny

      6 years ago

      Only BMW can use the letter M with the colors blue and red? I agree that I made the correlation, but to say copyright infringement is a bit much.

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      Tony Covey

      6 years ago

      Technically, I think it would be trademark infringement. The fact that so many have pointed out the similarities between the logos makes me wonder if BMW might be inclined to send a letter at a minimum.

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      Donny

      6 years ago

      You could be right Tony, and I’m sure their are plenty of golfers within BMW that are taking a second look, but would be shocked if TMAG would make such an intentional mistake that would prove theft or piracy. Time will tell.

      xjohnx

      6 years ago

      Personally I think the combination of name/color choice is in very poor taste. It’s nothing short of deliberate and desperate. I’m sure I’m not the only one.

      Andrew Han

      6 years ago

      How sick would it be to pull up to a course with this driver in your M3 with carbon fiber hood? I agree with Tony, trademark infringement at the least.

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      Well whadda you know

      6 years ago

      People need to close their grocery holes….when it comes to TMs product launches

      Callaway now has 4 versions of the new Rogue driver,

      Plus 2 more of the higher end, slow club speed $800 driver

      Plus 3 of the epic sub zero and GBB model drivers heading into 2018.

      A total of 9 new drivers within the calendar year

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      Nick

      6 years ago

      The Rouge drivers haven’t been released yet. They are on the conforming list. The most recent head is a tour only head and won’t come to retail. The conforming list also has an Epic with two weights in it as well as an 815 with two weights( not retail heads but tour guys needed to play them. The Epic forged was a limited release in Japan. The star was also aimed at a very small market.

      So by my count in the Calendar year 2017 they released 4 drivers, GBB Epic and Epic Sub Zero, the very limited Epic Star and Forged.

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      xjohnx

      6 years ago

      I personally would only count the USA releases so it’s 3 if you ask me. And just because there is 4 version of Rogue on the conforming list, that doesn’t mean 4 will be released. Could possibly be a version only available to tour players etc.

      Tony Covey

      6 years ago

      I have it well-sourced that only one version of the SZ is coming to retail. The first one (two weight model) will hit shelves. The most recently added one is for tour.

      xjohnx

      6 years ago

      Thanks Tony, I’m not surprised one bit. Probably a slightly smaller volume head again like last year?

      Spitfisher

      6 years ago

      No one will confuse a golf club with a car

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      Scott

      6 years ago

      Parsons is right. The manufacturers come up with the same crap every year and none of it is any difference from last year. All just trying to move product off the shelves.

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      xjohnx

      6 years ago

      Definitely not trying to start one of these PXG arguments here and I won’t bite so don’t take it there. But why don’t you wait and see how different Bobb’y new clubs are compared to his previous models are before you make that comment. Their improvements will be just a marginal or insignificant as the rest. There isn’t much uncharted territory left out there.

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      Bill

      6 years ago

      PXG can do what they want because they are privately held. Callaway and TM are both publicly held and have stockholders that want results. If launching new drivers increases sales results, they are going to continue to crank them out.

      Reply

      Mike Berlin

      6 years ago

      Interested to see what the effects of the Y track are. Interesting idea for sure. Looking forward to giving it a try.

      Reply

      Chet

      6 years ago

      TM keeps up at this pace and they’ll release almost as many drivers in 2018 as Callaway!

      Reply

      xjohnx

      6 years ago

      You mean the same amount of drivers they’ve released for as long as I can remember. Why is releasing new clubs every season all of the sudden the most shocking and apparently offensive thing in the game? These people are completely ignorant and seemingly uneducated about how these things work. Give it a damn rest. Or better yet, start your own golf company and release new products every 5 years and see how that business works out for you.

      Reply

      Aaron Kent

      6 years ago

      BMWier…..

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      Terry Wittek

      6 years ago

      OMG it’s a new TM driver

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      Jason Dein

      6 years ago

      Every other month

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      Dan Z

      6 years ago

      I can’t wait for BMW to sue TaylorMade for trademark infringement only to be countersued by TaylorMade for making their cars too fast.

      Reply

      Stephen Vang

      6 years ago

      The ultimate driving machine…how many more horsepower than last years model?…I mean….yards?

      Reply

      Jonathan

      6 years ago

      I wonder if TM will get any blowback from BMW for this logo design and name.

      Reply

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