Titleist to Launch Limited Release AVX Golf Ball
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Titleist to Launch Limited Release AVX Golf Ball

Titleist to Launch Limited Release AVX Golf Ball

For maximum effect, I’m going to need you read the next paragraph with your best 30 for 30 voice.

What if I told you that the #1 ball company in golf was preparing to launch a new ball? And what if I told you that most golfers might never hear about it and fewer still will actually be able to buy it?

Wouldn’t that be something?

K-Sig level scarcity is not the kind of story you would expect from Titleist. In fact, it almost sounds a little crazy, and that is, in part, what makes this story so fascinating.

The new ball is called the AVX, and for the next several months or longer, it’s going to be sold exclusively in three states; California, Arizona, and Florida. You’ll find it at green grass and off-course too, but short of anything that trickles onto eBay, you won’t be able to order online.

The Titleist AVX is expected to hit stores around October 6th, and the most amazing part of all of this is that nobody, Titleist included, can say with any degree of certainty, what’s going to happen after that.

By no small measure, the future of Titleist’s new ball rests in your hands.

The AVX is a market test in the truest sense of the phrase, and so no decisions about the ultimate direction of the ball will be made until Titleist (and the rest of us) sees what the consumer response is.

The plan reads less like a roadmap and more like a choose your own adventure book.

Why AVX?

It’s no secret that the golf ball market has slowly shifted towards softer, low compression offerings. DUO made inroads, Chrome Soft made real noise, and ever since manufacturers have been making feel changes to appeal to a preference driven golfer.

Interjecting my own experience and opinion here for a moment; there isn’t any performance benefit to a softer ball (in most cases, there’s a net loss), but a growing number of golfers want them, and Titleist isn’t oblivious to that reality.

At the same time, Titleist can still legitimately boast that it has the #1 ball in golf (by plenty), and it’s not as if legions of Titleist fans are demanding a softer ball. Loyal Titleist guys like the Pro V1 just fine.

Performance implications or not, there is a segment of the market that clearly desires a softer ball. Is the recent tilt in the market price-driven, or is Titleist losing out on sales because of feel? That’s what’s at the core of the AVX experiment.

What AVX Is and What It Isn’t

When I first heard rumors of a softer Titleist ball to be positioned in the performance segment of the market (what we refer to as Tour-Quality balls), I was a little surprised it wouldn’t be called Pro V1-S. There’s simple logic in that, right?

The explanation for why that isn’t happening is just as simple. AVX is not an extension of the Pro V1 family. Sure, it offers 3-piece construction and a urethane cover, but with the exception of some technology borrowed from the new Pro V1 core to increase speed, we’re talking about an entirely new golf ball.

The AVX features not only a new dimple pattern but, as a result of a new catenary dimple shape, it has entirely different aerodynamic properties as well. The cover is cast urethane, and the material composition is different enough from that of the Pro V1 and Pro V1x that, in addition to white, Titleist can also make the AVX in yellow; a first for Titleist in the tour performance category. That small detail alone might attract some golfers to the AVX.

What those differences amount to is a ball that provides softer feel and a bit more distance than Titleist players might be used to. That distance boost is what has the potential to separate the AVX from the other soft offerings on the market which don’t quite live up to their billing.

Seldom does benefit come without cost, however, and that’s absolutely true for the AVX. To get softer feel you’re going to lose a bit of greenside spin. Current Pro V1x players are the most likely to notice the difference while it’s entirely possible that some Pro V1 players will notice little to no difference at all around the green.

Where Does AVX Fit?

The tricky part for Titleist comes in defining the market position of the new offering. The company steadfastly believes that between the Pro V1 and Pro V1x it has the highest performing balls in the game. Speaking strictly with respect to performance, there’s no need for the new Titleist ball, but a segment of consumers wants softer and longer (especially if they can get both), and that creates a paradox of sorts for Titleist.

While the Pro V1 is true to the company’s performance-driven identity, AVX is a preference driven product. To accept the inherent performance trade-offs is to accept that AVX isn’t a Pro V1 – it’s not supposed to be. It’s designed for golfers who want soft feel and are willing to give up just a little bit somewhere else to get it.

That sticker price though; Titleist sees AVX as a premium product – just like the Pro V1. AVX will launch with the same MSRP as the Pro V1 and with that will surely and rightfully come high expectations. The AVX can’t, by any measure, be seen as less than a Pro V1. How does Titleist manage expectations for a tour-quality ball that isn’t expected to get any play on Tour? This is no small challenge.

For this to work, AVX has to be viewed as different in a way that resonates with golfers who may not have found a home with Titleist.

Who is the AVX market? How big is it? Finding those answers is what this three-state trial is all about.

This Is A Test

What we’re being told is that this really is a test and Titleist has no definitive plans beyond folders full of possible scenarios.

There are several ways this could play out based on how sunbelt golfers respond to the new ball. If AVX doesn’t sell well and doesn’t build a following of repeat customers, it almost certainly disappears as quietly as it arrived. If it cannibalizes Pro V1 sales, it’s probably gone too. I can’t imagine Titleist has any interest in stealing from the franchise that defines the brand.

If, however, golfers who typically play other (non-Titleist) balls take a sustainable liking to the AVX, then it seems reasonable to assume we could see full market saturation in the spring – perhaps at a lower price point, perhaps not.

My 2 Cents

I don’t think it’s any secret that Titleist has taken a hit in the ball category over the last year or so. We’ve talked before about the impact of tour-quality balls at the $40 price point, most notably the Chrome Soft, but Callaway isn’t alone, and the fact is that compression numbers are dropping across the entire industry.

Essentially we have two forces at play. Relative to the Pro V1 franchise, competitors’ balls are cheaper and softer. Is one of those factors driving the market more than the other? I suspect that’s the question Titleist is seeking to answer. If the AVX sells well at Pro V1 prices, that would suggest that feel, not price, is driving the sub-premium urethane market. If, however, AVX doesn’t gain any real traction, it could indicate that price is exerting greater influence over the buying decision, in which case, AVX could very well go mainstream at the $40 price point. Whatever might happen, I’m certain lowering the price of the Pro V1 isn’t in the conversation.

What has been conveyed to me is that all options for the future of the AVX remain on the table, and the absolute truth is that what happens with the AVX product will be entirely driven by the consumer response.

For that reason alone, I think it’s worth checking it out.

Pricing and Availability

Look for the Titleist AVX to hit retail shops in California, Arizona, and Florida exclusively beginning in early October. Retail price is expected to match the Pro V1 and Pro V1x.

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      Mike squatcher

      6 years ago

      Ive played a few rounds with AVX it plays a little longer than E6
      it seems to putt well. Price is the factor $48 in Mi played the yellow
      they wear real good,one problem they get lost like the rest I’m going to stay with this ball!

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      Dennis M. Will-i-am-s

      6 years ago

      AVX will be in stores May 1st, 2018!
      Can’t wait! A Titleist ball that carries AND stays clean. Played the entire round with one ball, the AVX Yellow, and it looks as good as new! SM7s dint put a scratch on these bad boys. 77 strokes later and still looks as good as when I took it out of the sleeve!

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      Don

      6 years ago

      I have played over 20 rounds with this ball. I gotta say it has taken over the top spot from my Bridgestone 300RX and Chrome soft tru vis. But not at that price point. If they stay around 40 bucks they will stay with me. I like the feel the green side control and they are long. Everything you want. But not at a Pro V 1 price. Lets be honest. Most players that don’t play them is because of the price. And many who play them, probably shouldn’t I hope they either make these or make a premium ball in yellow. Their yellow balls are junk.

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      Jim B

      6 years ago

      I bought a dozen today and will play them tomorrow. I won’t claim to be anything near a good player and only want to try something new. Hopefully I will be pleased. I’ve played the Vice, Hopkins and the new Wilson Optic offering and was pleased with all except I did not hit them any farther than what I had played for the last 30 years. Maybe I’ll be surprised!!!!

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      DOC

      6 years ago

      TRIED THE AVX FOR FIRST TIME YESTERDAY AND LOVED IT. I’M AN 11 HNCP. GUYS WILL NOT PAY 40 BUCKS FOR BALLS BUT WILL BUY 3 DRIVERS AND LEAVE THEM IN THE GARAGE ONE AFTER THE OTHER FOR $500 A SHOT. I THINK ITS ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE WITH AND OF COURSE HOW MANY BALLS YOU LOSE EVERY ROUND. HA!

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      Golfdoc

      6 years ago

      I agree with you, Doc. I tried this ball and I think it’s the best ball I have ever played. I’m a 77 Y.O. single digit handicap who has played the new Pro V1x, the Callaway Chrome Soft and the the Srixon Q Star Tour recently. For me the AVX is significantly longer than all of them with negligible difference in spin around the green. I hope Titleist keeps this ball in their line. I will play it until something better comes along for my game.

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      JOVI NERI

      7 years ago

      I’ve tweeted it and I will say it again here. That is just a repackaged Titleist Prestige Japan-market golf ball. It is exactly the same in terms of description: 352 dimples, urethane-covered, lower compression. And as I have played the Japan ball, the sleeve even says Made In The USA!

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      Alex

      7 years ago

      Tony,

      I find this comment very interesting: “Interjecting my own experience and opinion here for a moment; there isn’t any performance benefit to a softer ball (in most cases, there’s a net loss).”

      I note this is an opinion, but given your extensive experience with golf equipment testing I was not sure if it was an opinion derived from actual test results. I thought the video from Snell seemed to imply that having a softer core (and I would assume that the Snell MTB would be classified as a soft ball) allowed the ball to minimize spin off the tee while having a negligible distance loss for most golfers.

      Me personally would not mind sacrificing some short game spin, for decreased dispersion off the tee as long as there wasn’t significant distance loss. It seems to me that is what is generally being marketed in “soft” balls. But I would have my doubts on playing a ball that was too far on the soft spectrum. As I don’t really care too much either way about feel, I was interested if you could provide a bit my clarity on your comment.

      I have right around 100 mph driver swing and currently play the NXT tour practice balls. I find it interesting as it seems most people do not speak highly of this ball but I thought they worked quite well. I play this because 1 ) I did not pay anywhere near full price and 2) I feel that that i hit more fairways compared to most urathane covered tour balls. I will soon be looking to make the switch to something with a bit more bite, but don’t want to be spraying my drives all over the place. Seems to be a lot of uncertainty, or downright misdirection out there, on how compression effects ball flight.

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      jeff

      6 years ago

      Alex… I agree. The NXT is a solid ball at a more reasonable price. It was interesting to read last year the comments from golfers about the costco ball. One guy said that buying the significantly cheaper costco ball saved him enough money to play 8-10 more rounds at his local muni course.

      Thankfully, there is too much competition in this category that a golfer doesn’t have to spend $50 for a dozen balls if he/she doesn’t want to.

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      Mark Grant

      7 years ago

      Titleist has been overcharging people for years…SCREW THEM!!!

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      Bruce

      7 years ago

      Just what golfers need: another overpriced product based on marketing hype. My guess is too much traditional influence on the design so we have another overpriced ball that feels hard and heavy off the club face. Titleist “soft” balls never feel as good as other soft balls – may say soft but always too hard. Srixon, Vice, Snell, Maxfli U6 are all much better.

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      Tyson Ray

      7 years ago

      VICE balls all the way

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      P.J.

      7 years ago

      Titleist is trying a new marketing strategy. By saying they’re limited availability – that will create demand and discussion. But, $40 a dozen for a ‘tour’ ball is already being done. There are better and cheaper alternatives (less than $30) by Snell, Kirkland, Srixon Q-Star Tour, Vice and a host of others.
      Titleist has lost market share and is trying to get it back, but making a $40 a dozen ball is not the way. I’ve always said that if they sold ProV1’s for $30-35, they’d eliminate almost all the competition. For the sake of lower priced options with similar/better performance, I’ll stick to Snell’s MTB.

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      Jeremy Pippin

      7 years ago

      I will never touch this ball. Price is too high. I love the Pro V1 but will never pay that much for a box of balls. I am just a recreational golfer and don’t see enough benefits from the more expensive balls to purchase them. Especially since there are other less expensive balls out there that have good performance. Like the Srixon Q star tour. My favorite ball used to be the Callaway Hex Chrome. Awesome performance at a reasonable price. Then they replaced them with the chrome soft, which I like but still a little pricey. Compression doesn’t really matter to me.

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      dcorun

      7 years ago

      May not be on the subject of a new softer Titleist ball but, some people are saying that even with a driver swing speed of 85-87 that there isn’t much difference in distance loss but, big gains in your short game performance with the Pro V’s , Snell MTB, Srixon Z-Star, etc. Softer may not be better. Is this true or marketing?

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      James Shepard

      7 years ago

      I don’t understand why everyone keeps saying compression doesn’t make a difference in distance. As I have reached retirement my swing speed is below 85. When I play Pro V1 balls I lose at least 10 yards on my drives compared to low compression balls. That means I have to go up one or two clubs on my next shot. Pro V1 will not hold the green with a 5 iron better than Callaway Super soft hit with a seven iron.

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      Terry (TMAC)

      7 years ago

      I was a Titleist guy for years, going all the way back to the balata days. I started playing the ProV’s when they came out and loved them. A few years back when they were having durability issues I switched over to the Bridgestone B330S. I liked those just as much as the ProV’s and they were cheaper. When the B330RX came out I went to them and really liked the softer feel. When the Chrome Soft came out I gave those a try and that is what I’ve been playing for the past couple years. I still buy a dozen ProV’s every year (when the new one’s come out) just to see if they’ve made any changes that I might like. While Titleist has addressed the durability issues (the balls are definitely more durable than they were a few years back) I just prefer a softer feeling ball and I see absolutely no difference in distance or spin between the ProV’s and the Chrome Softs or the Bridgestone’s. Last week I bought a sleeve of Taylor Made TP5’s and TP5x’s. The TP5x’s were too hard (like the ProV1x) but I did like the TP5’s – although they were still a little harder than the Chrome Soft or the B330RX.
      I’ve been on this “softer ball” bandwagon for a few years now and I don’t see myself turning back – especially when I really don’t see any performance negatives. Been a Titleist fan for many years but they just don’t have a ball in their stable that I like as much as the softer models. This new AVX may be exactly what I’m looking for out of Titleist, but unless it significantly longer, I will not be a repeat customer if they keep the price at $47 / doz. They have to compete with the other low compression offerings with price. Name alone isn’t going to do it anymore because people know there are several other companies out there making excellent golf balls today.
      Sorry Titleist.

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      Tony Sheppard

      7 years ago

      Srixon Q-Star Tour is 30 bucks. Similar kind of ball. Bridgestone B330- RXS and Chrome Soft are in the same category too. Good luck Titleist with selling this ball for nearly $10 to $20 more.

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      Clayobx

      7 years ago

      I could not agree more! I’ve just received my first internet add this AM on the new Titelist. It looked interesting and I would have researched further but clicked on Tony’s report only to find the “skinny” and another overpriced ball that Titelist’s competitors have been marketing, selling well and performing great. ” Sorry Charlie” this birds not going to fly!

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      LAbillyboy

      7 years ago

      Titlest taking more shelf space, knocks off a competitors ball… No doubt some will try it for the novelty and decide it’s the best ball they’ve ever played… I am sure I’ll get a sleeve and whack them around until I lose them. I’m liking the Taylomade balls right now over the current Pro V. All the balls are good, it’s not the ball I’m playing that determines my score…

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      Derek s

      7 years ago

      How is this ball going to be any different than the DT True soft? If it is different, why not just improve the DT Line?

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      Tony Covey

      7 years ago

      DT TrueSoft is a 2-piece ball that doesn’t have a urethane cover. It sits well below the NXT with respect to where it fits in the market. Turning an established product into something else doesn’t make much sense. Bottom line, there’s a world of difference between the TrueSoft and AVX. They both have soft feel, but that’s where the comparisons end.

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      R0B

      7 years ago

      Doe the Vice ball enter into this conversation as an alternative?

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      Andy

      7 years ago

      Vice apparently isn’t ready for prime-time. For many weeks now you can’t buy the Vice Pro on their website because they’re out of stock, and it’s not because they keep selling out — they just don’t seem to be producing enough balls. Let’s face it–demand for the Vice is not that great (yet) but yet they are always out of stock. I’ll get an email as soon as they’re in stock and I’ve been waiting for weeks now. Love the ball though.

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      painter33

      7 years ago

      Used to play Titleist Balatas and then Professional 90s for feel and approach performance. I never felt distance was an issue — okay, 30 years later I play Pro V1s and am happy with performance and feel, but maybe I’m missing something. Could all these lower compression balls signal the return of wooden-headed drivers and fairway woods? I’m prepared for that – still have 1,3,5 Ping Eye 2 woods in the closet calling my name, albeit in a hushed whisper.

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      Steve Harry

      7 years ago

      I would like to try this new model. ⛳️️

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      GatorDave

      7 years ago

      57 years old. Made it to a 2.3 once, now I’m a scramble golfer till the kids make it to college (soon!) Grew up playing balatas, always love a softer ball for chipping and putting. NXT Tour Softs fit the bill for me. After RK surgery 25 years ago it’s hard to see that white ball now a days. Tried the Volviks and was amazed at the colors but they seemed to fuzz up on the wedges. Should be interesting to try, but a niche market for sure.

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      Jerry

      7 years ago

      This season I’ve played 20 rounds on 17 different courses in 5 states. Age 70 with 8 handicap. Thus far I’ve purchased 4 dozen balls. The cost of balls to green fees is minuscule so I am mainly concerned with breaking 80. My anecdotal findings are I like the ProV1X and TP5 better than Snell. This winter I will hit while on a monitor and see what goes where. I don’t throw money around but for me ball cost is 3 or 4 on the reason to purchase.

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      Professor

      7 years ago

      I wish I saw no difference between Pro V and other brands but I consistently hit Pro’s 4-5 yards further, which may not sound like much but can be a huge difference in approach shot distance. I HATE losing the ball. I buy on eBay Used Mint condition. So much more value and balls are flawless. If I had to buy new ide just by Srixon or Bridgestone.

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      zesflog

      7 years ago

      Prof: I’m with you. This morning on E-Bay, bought 5 doz. Bridgestone B330RX (brand new) $26.99 each.
      http://www.ebay.com/itm/352123067734

      Previously, bought 4 doz. Srixon Q-Star Tour @ $29.99 each. On that deal, made out pretty good as they were buy 3 doz. get one doz. free.

      For myself, if I can get a tour quality, 3 piece, urethane covered golf ball with a compression of between 65 and 75, and pay around $30 bucks a doz.,I’m all in.

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      painter33

      7 years ago

      Dat’s lot’s ‘o balls – what do you do with them? I and most guys I play with can play early March to December with fewer than two dozen…

      Nick Aquilino

      7 years ago

      I have been a low single digit handicap most of my life. When it is important, I play Titleist for sure. For a casual round I play Bridgestone, Callaway or whatever. I do not experience any significant difference between any of the balls. Most of the shots I hit are good but not perfect so what difference would a ball make? I remember Ben Hogan said he only hit 3 perfect shots a round and he was one of the best ball strikers ever. Bottom line; this is marketing not performance.

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      Larry Bremner

      7 years ago

      I played the chrome soft for a few years until Snell established an outlet in Canada. Played their trial pack shortly after I ordered their tour ball. I was pleasantly surprised how well my game went using that ball. Of course everything golf related cost more in Canada.

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      Steven J

      7 years ago

      What brand of ball I play is about the perception of what it does for my game. How does it make me feel when I’m hitting it or putting it. I have played the Titleist ProV1 since it came out. I have tried all the other brands and yes, my scores are very similar, so it is not about distance, price, etc. It is about how I perceive the ball. I feel more confident and comfortable playing the ProV1, so I continue to do so. The fact that the AVX will be available in Yellow with the Urethane cover peeks my interest because of vision and the ease of seeing it. I will definitely give it a try. I am a 50 something professional that just loves the game, having played actively for over 40 years. It’s all about what you feel comfortable playing, and helps you play your best…

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      Charles Mellas

      7 years ago

      Love Pro V, however, at 68 I can still hit kinda long but cant see ’em well unless they’re yellow. Aint no fun if you cant see your long drive and then you lose your $4 golf ball.

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      Golfinnut

      7 years ago

      I’m a ProV1 loyalist but I’m not sure this is Titleist’s answer to the golf ball sales problem. There are too many other companies out there that make a quality ball at a lower price. So why pay more for the same performance?
      With that being said, I’d sure like to test them out. Too bad I’m not in one of those states.

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      Jerry Killian

      7 years ago

      I am 68 yrs old with a 3.1 hdcp last yr(verifiable) from 6500 yds playing mostly the DT Trusoft primarily because it’s long, holds the green and is a $20 ball. I do play Chrome soft occasionally.
      I certainly would love to test the new AVX here in Michigan and provide feedback to this forum and or Titliest, I am on the test list
      and a Titliest fan.

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      Rob Camper

      7 years ago

      My prediction:
      This will not grow their market share with any significance.
      The yellow version will be the main draw (might not be the majority, but will outperform normal yellow:white purchasing ratios)
      Titelst will eventually cave and offer a yellow ProV
      Snell, Vice will continue to eat away at the premium ball market share
      I will continue my extreme enjoyment of purchasing and playing Vice balls

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      Tony Covey

      7 years ago

      You might be right on most points, but I’d bet against a yellow Pro V1. It’s not stubbornness, the cover formulation makes pigmentation difficult. It’s the same reason why most don’t offer yellow at the top of the lineup. Srixon uses a different material and process than the others.

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      Rob Camper

      7 years ago

      Hmm… interesting. Thanks for the reply and the insight. I had not considered the pigmentation issue. There was a Titleist guy as a guest on PGA Tour radio. Nearly every other caller was asking for a yellow ProV. He just dodged the issue and said “well, we’ll keep listening for what people want.” I wanted to scream at him and say ” YOU ARE HEARING IN REAL TIME WHAT PEOPLE WANT! TIMES HAVE CHANGED! THERE’S NO LONGER A NEGATIVE STIGMA WITH PLAYING A YELLOW BALL!!”

      If he would’ve addressed the technical issue, it would’ve probably gone away…

      Scott F

      7 years ago

      Frankly golfers are moving toward the lower compression balls. Before ProV1 came out they were 90 and 100 compression think Pro V is 70. I’m a low handicap who doesn’t lose too many balls and I won’t pay $40 or more a dozen for balls never have. I’ve played with too many “golfers” who will hit a new Pro V in the trees and take 5-10 minutes to find. Best combination of price and performance ball I’ve played is the Callaway Superhot 55. You can get at out Costco for $29.99 for 2 dozen. Now if I lose a ball don’t care was only $1.25 not $4

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      Steven T.

      7 years ago

      What about the new Titleist Tru Soft?
      https://www.titleist.com/golf-balls/dt-trusoft
      I presume it’s not a $40 ball.

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      Tony Covey

      7 years ago

      $21.99. 2-piece, Ionomer cover. Totaly different animal.

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      dang3rtown

      7 years ago

      To all the people saying something along the lines of, “why/too expensive/other brands”, I have a simple answer for you; market share. Currently, Titleist is losing market share. This is not news. Traditionally, Titleist’s demographic has been old guys with money. Well, those old guys are playing a lot of lower compression balls these days and brand loyalty only extends so far. If Titleist wants to keep those customers, they either need to offer them the product they want or hope lots of young, new players decide on Pro V1s!

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      Eye4golf

      7 years ago

      They titleist will always consider them a premium company and therefore they will not compete at price points of Snell, Vice or Srixon. As a 9 hdcp I have tried all 3 above as well as Kirtland, but my favorite is the Q star tour that gives me a little more distance which at 66 yrs young I can always use. It is so much cheaper to help your game with a ball rather than new driver or clubs.

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      xjohnx

      7 years ago

      If Titleist had no problem selling ProV1’s to all the idiots before the other manufacturers stepped in and educated them, I suppose they have reason to believe they can bring some of those idiots back at the same price point by making a ball that better suits their game.

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      Dave

      7 years ago

      I take it you were once one of thoese pro v guys . What are you playing now.

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      xjohnx

      7 years ago

      Dave,

      I wasn’t one of those guys. I just know how many people play/played the ball with the misconception that it was “the best” and did nothing but throw money away.

      Tom

      6 years ago

      I love it when guys call other guys idiots because they choose to play something other than what the self aggrandized genius plays. I’ve played them all, but I keep coming back to ProV’s. They’re the best ball for my game. But what do I know….I’m just another idiot playing to a 2 handicap.

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      Richard Morris

      7 years ago

      So I land in the >1% category of golfer who doesn’t really care what manufacturer’s name is on the ball. Im not a brand junkie so playing titleist does nothing for me.

      I have a closet with 15 dozen Pro V’s (NIB) that I save for cold days and water hazards. How did I end up with so many Pro V’s, suppliers like to give away the best so here you go.

      My preference is the Bridgestone E6, and its about the only golf ball Ive paid for in the last ten years.

      There will always be those who buy the Pro V because it is the number one ball in golf. But to those who live on a budget or don’t see the advantage, there are plenty of really good golf balls at half the price. BTW, I’m a 9.8 hcp (i know just a hack)

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      Chris Guynn

      7 years ago

      I’ve been a Titleist loyalist for many years. I can say that the TaylorMade TP5 is a better premium ball than the current ProV1 version. Same soft feel, not spinny off the driver and, for me, a club longer from 5 iron thru hybrid. I tried a Titleist test ball a few weeks ago that seems very similar to what they’re describing in this AVX. It actually played more like the TP5, so maybe Titleist is a little worried about TM making a quality, ball that performs.

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      Riles McCarty

      7 years ago

      If the margin on these is significantly better than their other offerings I really don’t think Acushnet would mind cannibalizing their own sales, even the ProV1, this is business after all

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      Dan Miller

      7 years ago

      I agree different ball same cost as a Pro V . To me it’s cost prohibitive.

      Reply

      George P

      7 years ago

      Titleist is taking a hit more because of price, and not lower compression, IMO. Snell & Vice offer similar or better performance with SIGNIFICANT savings, so if the AVX will be priced the same as the PRO V1 balls, I’m betting a lot of the AVX sales will be from PRO V1 loyalists, which Titleist won’t like. Unless they drop the price of the AVX close to their NXT Tour line, I’m betting the AVX won’t stick around. I’d wager a pretty penny on that!

      Reply

      Frank Pannullo

      7 years ago

      Sounds like a good idea, would really like to test them. Price point is very important

      Reply

      Bill Fowler

      7 years ago

      I cant imagine any ball offered that can compete with the Pro V1x. Looking forward to testing the AVX…..

      Reply

      B. Mac

      7 years ago

      Is it only in yellow ??????????

      Reply

      Tony Covey

      7 years ago

      Sorry if that wasn’t clear. AVX is available in both white and yellow.

      Reply

      Tim Dotson

      7 years ago

      I really can’t imagine these jumping off the shelf at Pro V prices, if they want a ball to compete with the Bridgestone and Callaway “softer” tour offerings then it needs to be at their price point too.

      I have no interest, I’ll still with my Snell’s at $32 a dozen

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      Jim

      7 years ago

      I agree. Why pay so much more for something that the Snell ball does equally well (and is actually a little better in the wind). Even the Chrome Soft has risen in price. I’d say the Snell and the TM Project A balls are just about right for me. Don’t see the need to spend almost $50 on Pro Vs.

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      Marc

      7 years ago

      I am a self proclaimed hoarder, the Chrome Soft can be had for $32 if you buy from Dicks with 20% off. I will stomach that for the Truvis ball which I like. Other balls can be had for under $20 such as U/6 which are AWESOME!

      Snell, Vice etc are all crushing Titleist and I am not sure if Titleist has any answers.

      Steve S

      7 years ago

      The downside to test marketing products like this is that you’ll probably get a fair amount of customers that like the ball. If you don’t decide to produce it after the test period, those customers will not be happy and may not ever buy Titliest, again. If they don’t come out at a lower price than Pro V’s I don’t see how they are going to lure Calloway and Bridgestone customers to Titliest. This looks like a move by a company that is a bit desperate.

      Reply

      MyGolfSpy

      7 years ago

      While this might have happened with the McRib, I do not see that happening here. But time will time.

      Reply

      keith irvine

      7 years ago

      If it’s going to Florida, I would think the most important factor is
      ‘Does it Float?’

      Reply

      Rod Kraft

      7 years ago

      I have been through 2 dozen of the Snell balls and they are fantastic and will not pay for the ProV anymore!!

      Reply

      Teddy Sison

      7 years ago

      We cares, i go for snell

      Reply

      Marc Anderson

      7 years ago

      Titleist thinks they can offer a ball on the same level as QST and B330-RX but charge 30% more. Not going to do well Titleist , not at $47 a dozen

      Reply

      John

      7 years ago

      I have played Titleist ‘s best balls forever (have now gone to the ProV1X over the ProV), but just bought a sleeve of Srixon Z-Star to compare against them based on recent ball tests since the Z-Star is considerably cheaper. Although my game has declined from my years as a low handicap, tournament player to that of a more recreational player since turning 70, I still want the best performing ball. Having said that, while I still Like the Pro V1x the best, I would switch to the Z-Star if the performance is 99% the same due the cost savings. I still want the performance to be the best on both long and short games. Price is driving my decision, not softness of feel or the need for distance. Titleist is losing market share, I think, not because the market wants a softer ball; they are losing it because others are producing an equal or almost equal tour ball at a lower price point,

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      John Marsh

      7 years ago

      Sounds like the NXT Tour-S in yellow. Will definitely look forward to October

      Reply

      Andrew Han

      7 years ago

      You want a dozen to test or you have people to send it your way?

      Reply

      John Marsh

      7 years ago

      Would love to test them

      Reply

      Andrew Han

      7 years ago

      John, I don’t see you in the team page. You work for mgs?

      John Marsh

      7 years ago

      No, I do not work for MGS

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