First Look: Cobra KING F9 and KING F9 ONE SPEEDBACK Irons and Hybrids
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First Look: Cobra KING F9 and KING F9 ONE SPEEDBACK Irons and Hybrids

First Look: Cobra KING F9 and KING F9 ONE SPEEDBACK Irons and Hybrids

Inside the walls of Cobra, the KING F9 SPEEDBACK iron project was referred to by its codename.

Bruce Lee.

Why? According to Cobra’s VP of R&D, Tom Olsavsky, “because he kicks ass.” The new irons? They kick ass too.

Truth be told, I haven’t been the biggest fan of Cobra’s more recent game improvement irons, but why dwell on the past when this time around things are different? As with the driver, the shape of the F9 SPEEDBACK irons is purposeful, though unconventional It’s a design that may prove to be polarizing, but as with the driver, I love that Cobra is taking a risk on something different that’s not just for show.

What you’ll likely notice are boxier heel and toe regions that house a significant amount of tungsten. Very early prototypes featured F7 driver weights welded to the heel and toe portions of the iron. It turns out, F9 SPEEDBACK wasn’t the most radical design on the table. The final version is more conventional than it could have been, but Cobra is still banking that its F golfers (80% have handicaps above 10) are willing to buy into something that looks a little different because of the improved performance it delivers.

F9 SPEEDBACK is Cobra’s attempt to resolve a critical flaw with most distance irons on the market today. They may be long, but despite manufacturer claims to the contrary, they’re not particularly forgiving. I suppose the converse is true for many game-improvement designs. They’re forgiving, but in the grand scheme of things, they’re often not among the longest. Cobra’s position more or less holds true when you consider MOI and Sweet Area. Mizuno’s JPX919 Hot Metal is good, and you can make a case for PING G700, but that one has a blade length that’s longer than most.

Ultimately what Cobra was seeking to create with the F9 SPEEDBACK is an iron that’s truly long, truly forgiving, and doesn’t rely on an overly long blade to make it happen. If some other things have to look a little bit different for that to work, so be it.

Unique Shaping

Some of the things packed into the F9 irons are typical of what you’d expect from Cobra in this category. Progressive hosel lengths that are shorter in the long irons keep CG low. Longer hosels in the scoring irons raise CG to help generate a penetrating flight with more spin. It’s all part of Cobra’s TechFlo design strategy.

What is new is the shape. It’s boxy, and I need to be clear about this point, boxy isn’t the same as clunky, and I’m not calling F9 a bag full of shovels either. It’ good boxy – if that makes sense. Typically flowing regions, specifically, the low heel and toe regions have been squared off considerably. That allowed Cobra to place a massive amount of tungsten (image below) in those areas (33-grams of tungsten in the 7-iron alone). That gets you a huge boost in inertia without having to make the club any larger, but yeah, it does look a little different.

The second unusual detail is the F9’s two-tiered SPEEDBACK Sole. Olsavsky calls it a weight belt, but what we’re talking about is a wide sole that’s used to push weight lower and deeper into the head to create higher launch. By way of comparison, center of gravity locations are significantly lower than F8 in the longer irons and appreciably higher in the scoring clubs. That extra mass has everything to do with controlling trajectory.

We’ve heard this part of the story before and because of that wide soles aren’t usually particularly noteworthy. With the F9 SPEEDBACK, however, there’s a bit more to it. The SPEEDBACK sole features a narrower, raised center section that’s dramatically thinner than the total sole width. It’s designed to improve turf interaction, which generally isn’t the strength of wide sole irons. My experience with the irons suggests it actually works. It gets through grass nicely and plays narrower than its footprint.

Another small tweak to the head design offers a huge improvement visually – at least I think so. Cobra added a little bit of camber to the topline. It’s a preference thing, but the last several generations of Cobra GI irons offered exceedingly flat, blunt toplines. Adding a bit of radius makes it appear significantly smaller at address. It’s much easier on the eyes though I’d be remiss not to mention that the wide sole design does put a bit of the backcavity in view from the 4 to the 7-iron. Once you get into the true scoring clubs that stuff disappears and the irons themselves look a bit more conventional from all angles.

PWRSHELL FACE TECHNOLOGY

PWRSHELL is Cobra Speak for its speed-boosting face technology. PWRSHELL has been a part of several generations of Cobra iron face stories, but as with most anything else in golf, it continues to evolve.

Like any good face technology, it’s thin (1.8mm at its thinnest point). Cobra has added a variation of its E9 technology to further increase speed on off-center hits. Engineers also thinned and extended the return – the lower part of the face that gets welded to the body – deeper into the body itself. It’s not a true cupface design, but the principle is similar to slot designs. It helps generate more face flex and boosts ball speeds particularly on low face shots.

In the 4-7 irons, Cobra uses a 3-piece insert (TPU, acrylic foam, and aluminum badge) to help dampen vibration without slowing down the face. Manufacturers are always trying to make cast, multi-piece irons feel more like forgings. While it’s unlikely you’ll mistake the two, Cobra says F9 offers best in class feel. It’s certainly not a KING CB/MB, but it’s good for what it is.

Cobra’s Progressive Spin Technology carries on with F9 as well. It’s not so much technology as it is a means to explain that different irons within the set have different grooves. The 4-7 irons use V-grooves to reduce spin and maximize distance. The 8-PW have U-grooves for better control and accuracy, while the GW and SW leverage more tightly spaced wedge grooves for more spin around the green. Cobra chose not to offer a lob wedge for the F9 SPEEDBACK irons. They don’t sell enough of the high lofted set wedges to justify making them. Other than guys who just want all their clubs to look the same, I can’t come up with a single justification for using a set lob wedge anyway.

It’s also worth pointing out that the marking on the clubface now reads Milled Face instead of Forged. Cobra admits some responsibility in taking part in what has truly become one of the industry’s more misleading trends. A good number of companies are welding forged faces to cast bodies, and stamping the word Forged on the head. Golfer’s love forged, but the practice is inherently dishonest. What’s a little white lie in the interest of selling a few more clubs, right? Cobra is still using a forged face, but the company is making an effort to be more transparent about the finer points.

From a performance perspective, despite higher inertia (long iron MOI is 10% higher than F8), in Cobra’s internal testing, the F9 SPEEDEBACK was significantly longer than competitive offerings from Callaway, TaylorMade, and PING. Generally, the brands doing the testing come ahead out in internal testing, and it hasn’t tested against any of its competitors’ 2019 stuff, but it has enough of a cushion that it doesn’t think anyone will offer a longer game improvement next season.

Whether or not you should be overly concerned about a few yards worth of iron distance is another conversation entirely, but having spent some time on the course with them, I can tell you that they’re incredibly easy to hit and distance isn’t going to be an issue. It’s easily my favorite Cobra game-improvement iron in the close to a decade since I started working for MyGolfSpy.

Chrome Plating

This is one of those things that most consumers don’t think about, and many probably don’t care about, but I believe you should. In this spot in the market, a good number of the offerings aren’t chrome plated because it saves the manufactures a little bit of money. Mizuno chromes, Titleist does, PING’s recent offerings have been plated, and now Cobra does to. Callaway and TaylorMade, what are you waiting for?

The market leaders are sacrificing quality to save a buck, and because of it, the best-selling products on the market show wear much more quickly than they should. It’s not a small thing. For what irons cost, every damn set on the market should offer a durable finish. It’s nice to see Cobra making an effort to raise the quality of its product and give you a bit more for your money.

Real Deal Steel Shafts

And speaking of cost-cutting, it’s not uncommon for game-improvement designs to come stock with lightweight, made-for shafts. Like nearly everyone else, Cobra has done that in the past, but – again, raising the quality of its product – is using the KBS Tour 90 as the stock steel offerings.

The graphite offering is still a made for (Fujikura ATMOS). Cobra is far from alone here, and the typical lightweight graphite player isn’t likely to notice much of a difference.

F9 SPEEDBACK Variable Length Iron Secs & Pricing

Retail price for a stock 7-piece set (5-GW) of Cobra F9 SPEEDBACK Irons is $799 steel and $899 graphite. A 4-iron and SW are available through custom. A graphite Combo set, which includes a 5H and 6-GW is $899. A combo steel set with the same set makeup is also available through custom.

ONE LENGTH

It shouldn’t come as any surprise that Cobra is offering a ONE Length version of the F9 Speedback iron. While ONE Length sales dipped a bit in 2018, ONE Length sill accounted for 40% of Cobra iron sales. In the two weeks following Bryson DeChambeau’s win at the Dell Technologies Championship, Cobra sold 150 sets of ONE Length through its website alone.

As we’ve said before, ONE Length isn’t for everyone, but there’s a market for it, and if Bryson continues to play well (I think he’s going to win a Major next year), interest will continue to grow. For now – and with all due respect to Edel and Sterling – Cobra has the mainstream market cornered, though it wouldn’t surprise me to see a legitimate competitor enter the fray.

Apart from the signature Bryson blue accents and the necessary differences in individual headweights, the ONE Length offering is basically the same as the variable length option. The one notable difference is that sole widths on the long irons are slightly wider to promote higher launch.

Lower than desirable launch in the long irons has been the biggest hurdle for slower speed players looking to switch to ONE Length. The wider blade should help with that – as should some changes to Cobra’s shaft strategy (see below) – but if that doesn’t alleviate your concerns, remember that Cobra offers a ONE Length utility and ONE Length hybrids. Either of those could potentially resolve any long iron launch issues.

Call it a product of the ONE Length learning process; Cobra has updated its progressive lie angle strategy. The long irons are more upright, which contributes to higher trajectories, while wedge lie angles have been flattened for a flatter, straighter trajectory.

Real Deal Shafts – with a Twist

As with the variable length version, Cobra will offer real deal KBS shafts in the F9 SPEEDBACK ONE Length option. Instead of using a single shaft model, Cobra has chosen a progressive weight strategy with KBS Tour offerings. The 4-6 irons are outfitted with KBS Tour 80 shafts. The 7-9 use the KBS Tour 90, while the PW-SW will come with KBS Wedge shafts (115g).

It’s similar to an AMT/AWT strategy (True Temper’s AMT White is stock in the Forged Tec ONE Length). The idea is to leverage lighter-weight shafts in the long irons to generate more speed and higher flight, and heavier shafts to create a more penetrating flight in the scoring irons.

F9 SPEEDBACK ONE Length Iron Specs & Pricing

Retail price for a stock 7-piece set (5-GW) of Cobra F9 SPEEDBACK ONE Length Irons is $799 steel and $899 graphite. A 4-iron and SW are available through custom. A graphite Combo set, which includes a 5H and 6-GW is $899. A combo steel set with the same set makeup is available through custom. Left-handed is also available through custom.

Full Cobra Connect Included…if you ask for it

Last season Cobra put Cobra Connect enabled grips on all of its irons and included Arccos sensors for the rest of your clubs with every iron set purchased. The adoption rate for the Arccos powered offering was about 50%, and while that’s pretty damn good, it also meant that 50% of sensors went unused, and that’s just plain wasteful.

This year, the deal is the same…mostly. The stock grip is still a Cobra Connected embedded Lamkin Crossline grip. Cobra will also still provide free Arccos-embedded grips or Arccos sensors for the rest of your non-Cobra clubs, and it will still do all of it entirely free of charge. The only ripple is that this time around, you have to ask for them.

Cobra wants you to take advantage of the Cobra Connect platform, but it doesn’t want to effectively throw sensors away if you’re not going to use them – and you should use them, but that’s just my 2 cents.

KING F9 SPEEDBACK Hybrids

It’s not any huge secret that there isn’t a ton of innovation in the hybrid category, so to Cobra’s credit, it’s not trying to oversell what it’s done with the KING F9 SPEEDBACK hybrids. There’s not a huge tech story here. They’re designed to replace difficult to hit long irons, and they’re bigger than the F8 version, and that’s mostly the whole of it.

The KING OS hybrid turned out to be popular, even with the better players inside Cobra, so they decided to size the F9 SPEEDBACK version between the F8 and the OS. It’s 10% larger than last year’s model. Going bigger allows for a flatter leading edge and a bit better alignment at address.

SPEEDBACK F9 ONE Length Hybrid

A ONE Length version of the hybrid is also available. It shares the same basic design as the variable length model, albeit with a shorter shaft and a heavier head. The main point of emphasis Cobra would like to convey – and I’m doing it because I agree – is that ONE Length hybrids aren’t strictly for golfers who play single length irons.

They have the potential to work for anyone who struggles with long irons or variable length hybrids. It may take a bit of adjustment to get used to the look of a hybrid head on a short shaft, but if you can do it, you should find it scarily easy to hit. I’ve added it to the list of potential solutions to my struggles with a 5-iron.

Unfortunately, that’s becoming a winter project as we seem to have mostly skipped fall here in the northeast this year. I digress…and miserably so.

Specs, Pricing, and Availability

Like the F8, the SPEEDBACK F9 hybrids aren’t adjustable but will be offered in discrete lofts of 17°, 19°, 21°, and 24°. Women’s models are available in 22°, 25°, 28°, and 31°.

ONE Length hybrids are available in 19°, 21°, and 24°.

The stock shaft is a 70-gram Fujikura ATMOS Black in stiff, regular, or lite flex. The women’s model is 60-grams in ladies flex. Cobra has brought the specs of the shaft closer to the aftermarket version but concedes it’s technically a made for. Shaft upgrades are available. Price differs by model.

The stock grip is a Cobra Connect enabled Lamkin Crossline.

Retail price is $219.

Retail availability for KING F9 SPEEDBACK irons and Hybrids begins January 18th, 2019.

For more information about, visit CobraGolf.com.

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      Gerald Teigrobg

      3 years ago

      I just picked up these irons a couple of months ago…I can’t wait to use them on the course! I wish they would have come with a 4 as well as a 5 iron option but I know lofts are pretty strong. I will still check out the Speedzone as there appear to be more availability and the design is much closer to the F9s! Awesome, Tony!

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      ct pham

      3 years ago

      you called it ! Bryson did win a MAJOR as you stated ! good work on this write up and call on Bryson… keep up the great work

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      Michael Fermino

      4 years ago

      I just picked up a set of cobra F9 irons.I can’t find bounce angle numbers any where If you can can you please shoot me a email.Im a big fan!

      Reply

      Ray C

      5 years ago

      Do you know if the Cobra F9 clubs have less offset than other game improvement irons for example the Rogue X irons?

      Reply

      Gerry T

      3 years ago

      I would say they’re stronger than the Rogue. Remember though that lofts and shafts vary from company to company.. All you can do is try them out and see how they feel compared to the Rogue. You’re the only one who can decide which ones you play better with!

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      Stevegp

      5 years ago

      Interesting article about Cora’s F9 irons. Lots of good information. Thanks, Tony.

      Reply

      Bob

      5 years ago

      Why are the Cobra One Length hybrids gapped 3=19, 4=21, 5=24 and the irons gapped 4=19.5, 5=22.5 and 6=25.5? I’m sure there’s an answer, but darned if I’ve been able to find it over the last year and a half or so… Great, unbiased review, Tim!

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      Gerry T

      2 years ago

      I’m thinking the lofts are stronger in the irons to promote more distance and confidence. Same with the Speedzone irons, Radspeed and the LTD irons.

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      Gary D Snider

      5 years ago

      I am looking forward to buying F9 irons, 6 to SW. Thanks for a great read with tons of information. F9 will be replacing fly-z irons. Like you, I have been waiting for sometime for better irons from Cobra.

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      Gerry T

      2 weeks ago

      I finally went back to the F9 irons and installed ust mamiya recoil f3 graphite shafts, so I have the best of all worlds. I now have the full set, 4-SW. It’s going to be awesome this year!

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      Ian

      5 years ago

      Tony, do you have any explanation as to the ‘progressive lie angle’ on the One Length? I’m not sure how this fits into the single plane, one swing idea if all the clubs vary in lie angle?

      If the clubs are all the same length but the lie angle varies (to be more upright on the lower lofts and flatter on higher lofts) doesn’t that mean that the spine angle and height of the hands will vary as it does with variable length?

      The irons will look like spokes on a wheel. The ball position is maintained but presumably the player stands closer and more upright for the ‘longer’ clubs but further away and more hunched over for the ‘shorter’ irons.

      There’s a graphic Chris Nickel uses early on in his 2017 article (http://mygolfspy.com/trend-or-fad-single-length-irons/) that would suggest that concept is now not particularly true as the lie angle for single length would presumably have to be or was the the same?

      I can only assume that, as your article states, it’s been done for trajectory. I know that previous versions, F7 particularly, had been criticised for on this i.e. too flat with the long irons and too high with the short irons.

      On that note, trajectory, I’m in the market for new irons and have been toying with the idea of F9 One Lengths but at 5 iron length i.e. 1.25″ longer than stock.

      Due to the parameter of length being constant and head weights varying more than variable lengths I would expect One Length irons to be more effected by the effects of choking. Rather than choking down my thought is that choking up would give a similar length shot at a steeper descent angle i.e. rather than a stock OL 5 iron playing a slightly longer (choked up) 6 iron.

      So I have two lengths. Stock gives me the flatter long irons to go under wind or at more generous pins while the choked up iron length allows me to hit a shorter club the same distance but come in steeper. My thought is it gives me two options with the same swing.

      I assume there will be a choke length that gives the same distance, as per the previous example a stock 5 iron versus a choked up 6 iron and possibly for someone at Bryson’s level of consistent hitting this could be modified slightly to reduce the gapping variation i.e. instead of say 10-12 yards between clubs he alters the choke to bring his gapping down to 5-6 yards so he effectively carries two irons per iron i.e. 5i, 5i stock, 6i, 6i stock etc.

      I appreciate that choking down on variable length clubs has always been ‘a thing’ but like I said, I’d think One Length would be more sensitive to this and the idea kind of flips it on it’s head.

      I’d love to hear your thoughts on this Tony as it’s an idea that needs bouncing off someone who’d know. It might be right but it might be utter nonsense as well.

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      Steve

      5 years ago

      Tony – great article and responses to the comments. Haters are gonna hate!

      I have the F8 OL and can’t wait to try the F9’s with all the improvements!

      I am curious, with they offer the flighted shafts again? I opted for TT XP 95 in the F8’s but may try the flighted. Thoughts?

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      Ryebread

      5 years ago

      Tony: Good read and I appreciate it. I have a couple of questions:

      1) Will there be a new “max” line this year? I ask as someone with average swing speed. I hit the F7 and F8 OL irons and did gap tests with them, and kind of ran out of gas up top. I tried the FMax OL and the gaps are very consistent.

      2) Is the OL version of the hybrid the larger size as well?

      3) Is there a Max/OS version of the OL hybrid coming?

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      Tony Covey

      5 years ago

      Cobra announced a new FMAX Superlite series back in September. I suspect that’s going to be it for the year. I was surprised to learn that the FMax OL didn’t sell particularly well, so we may not see it again.

      The OL hybrid is the same size as the VL. Other than the shorter shaft, the only appreciable difference is the paint color.

      I’m not aware of any Max OL hybrid in the pipeline. As the risk of giving you potentially false hope, Cobra usually holds a couple of things back for the PGA Show. That’s where they launched the OS hybrid. I’d wager we’ll see new wedges at the show, beyond that, I have no idea.

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      Ryebread

      5 years ago

      Thanks Tony for the information. What you are saying is kind of in line with what I’d gathered. There’s probably not a slightly larger headed OL version of the FMax/Os hybrid coming to match up with the lighter irons woth more forgiving heads.

      That’s really a shame. I am the perfect target demographic for OL because I am that medium to high handicap player who needs the consistency that OL offers. Despite a pretty solid short game, I still don’t go low, primarily due to having fairly average distance. I have to think a huge percentage of the target market for OL would have benefited from the Max like I did (was way better than the smaller headed, heavier, less forgiving standard OL).

      I think the FMax OL didn’t sell because they weren’t in stores. I couldn’t find the FMax OLs anywhere to hit. If the store had Fmaxs then they were always the conventional set. I had to take a giant leap of faith, but was thankfully rewarded.

      I feel the same about the Cobra OL hybrid. The head is fairly compact for the target market — people who don’t generate enough clubhead speed to make a 20 (or even 23) degree OL iron work. That setup screams for an oversized hybrid whose shaft offerings are identical to the ones offered in the irons.

      Realist

      5 years ago

      Not sure how I feel about adjusting the weight of the iron shaft for their One series. I play Sterlings and the benefit of every club “feeling” the same is consistency. I think people are going to struggle dialing up a consistent swing with a 35 gram difference in shafts, especially when the gurus out there say you should change shafts more than about 15 grams from what you’re use to.

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      Tony Covey

      5 years ago

      First, actual weights are a bit closer between shafts. Second, it’s a similar approach to what TrueTemper and PING do with AMT/AWT, the former being a popular aftermarket offering that does well with fitters. The concept works well for a significant number of golfers.

      Who are these gurus exactly, and what is their experience building single length sets? Golf is infected with outdated thinking, and this is yet another example.

      Here’s the reality, Cobra’s been working with directly with Bryson DeChambeau for nearly 4 years. In addition to being the face of single length, he’s one of the absolute best golfers in the planet (currently ranked #6 in the world). No single length manufacturer, not Edel, and not Sterling has accrued the body of knowledge that Cobra has in this space. At some point, we need to trust that the knowledgeable smart people know what they’re doing.

      Finally, I would point out that Bryson plays heavier shafts in his wedges. Clearly, the mass differences isn’t impacting his performance. I’d argue he benefits from it. There’s no more data-driven, analytical guy in golf. He wouldn’t do it if it doesn’t work, and Cobra wouldn’t have done it in the stock sets if they didn’t have good evidence to suggest it works for average golfers too.

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      Aaron B.

      5 years ago

      My comments don’t seem to be posting, but maybe this one will.

      I’m there with you part of the way, but your handwaving of these concerns is a bit surprising. Swingweight is more important than shaft weight for sure (and Cobra’s gotten this right since the F7 OL’s), but that doesn’t mean variable shaft weights won’t be an issue with some golfers.

      A bigger issue is the continual widening of the lie angle range from the constant 62.5* for F7’s (and Forged OL) to a full 3* difference between the F9’s 5 iron to the GW. Instead of figuring out how to manufacture GI clubheads that will produce even gapping and ball flights with the same length AND lie from the long/mid-irons to the wedges, Cobra’s just decided to keep changing lie angles and thus are taking away one of the benefits of single-length irons. It’s not “one swing” if the lie angle from the top of the set to the bottom has that much difference.

      Edel (who had made clubs for Bryson for about a decade before Cobra, so I’m sure David knows a thing or two about what works well for Bryson) and Wishon (who made the Sterling Single Length irons and is just one of the most respected club designers over the past 30 years) have been able to do this with budgets way smaller than Cobra’s. So what’s stopping the big company with PGA pros and a growing market share from doing the same?

      Also, if you think Bryson’s working as in-depth with Cobra’s R&D team now on their GI irons now as he was when they were developing the Forged OL’s, I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.

      Tony Covey

      5 years ago

      I can’t believe you’re going to make me write a long post first thing in the morning.

      First, let’s go out on a really short limb and assume that the Cobra R&D team has devoted significantly more thought and research on this topic than you have. Regarding Tom Wishon. Yes, he’s respected, perhaps not as widely and as deeply as his devotees seem to believe, but his contributions are well documented. Regarding David Edel. He worked with Bryson only briefly, and don’t you think it’s a bit odd that a business built on custom fitting to the nth degree’s solution to single length fitting is a single graphite shaft available in 3 different weight/flexes? A topic for another day, perhaps.

      Have you given a moments thought to the level of experience within the Cobra R&D department? We’re talking about guys with decades of experience working with the best players in the world creating some of the best-selling designs across multiple categories. Experienced club engineers, aerodynamicists…it’s not as if these guys just walked in off the street and decided to create an iron set because they liked Byrson’s hat. They’ve got Bryson and a 3D motion caption system. FFS, they’re not just spitballing their way through this.

      Having said that, it’s time to dispel the myth that’s at the foundation of your position. Single Length, Bryson, etc., it’s not truly a one swing situation. One Length, One Swing is catchy, but more accurately it’s One Swing, One Posture.

      What’s the difference (you might ask)?

      Working on the launch monitor, Bryson noticed that he didn’t swing his pitching wedge as fast as his long irons. That’s curious given that length and weight are the same, right? It’s something we noticed as well when we did our comprehensive ONE Length test – also curious. Despite flatlining the variables that contribute to swing speed, most testers saw a decrease in swing speed as lofts increased. Bryson thought the difference may be related to clubhead aerodynamics. Cobra did some research and proved that wasn’t the case. The current thinking is that the differences can be attributed to intent. The expectation with a wedge is precision, and so there is a tendency to be more focused on dialing-in an absolute distance with a wedge than there is with a long iron. It’s almost certainly a mindset thing, but again, it’s something that’s true for nearly everyone who swings single length irons. If anything, the fact that nobody else in the single length space has figured this out and accounted for it, should give you some insight the research Cobra has done that the others haven’t.

      How many years have the Sterling and Edel products been on the market? Has either evolved as a result of expanded knowledge of the real-world dynamics of a single length set?

      How does this relate to lie angles? The answer lies in shaft deflection and droop. The faster you swing a club, the more the toe drops down. As a result, to achieve repeatable dynamic lie angles at impact, static lie angles need to be different (because, as it turns out, head speeds aren’t the same). I should point out that this concept isn’t unique to ONE Length. Wedge manufacturers (like Vokey for example) have moved to lie angles flatter than the standard progression would call for. Why? Less force with the wedge swing creates less relative droop. Going flatter helps normalize impact lie.

      Building on that…As discussed in the story and in the comment section, Cobra is using a progressive shaft system (sort of an AMT by KBS approach). The lighter shafts in the long irons will produce more droop than the heavier wedge shafts. How do you account for that and level-off your impact lie angles? You guessed it, you start with a more upright static position.

      So to sum it all up in a single sentence: Cobra varies the static lie angles in order to achieve consistent lie angles at impact.

      Again, this was something they learned from working with Bryson and seeing the real-world results with the first generation of ONE Length.

      So, Also, if you don’t think what Cobra learns from Bryson significantly contributes to the ongoing development of every ONE Length iron – including game-improvement irons – I’ve got an even bigger bridge for you. I’d wager that short of PING’s Marty Jertson, there is no professional golfer more deeply involved in the creation of the products he plays, and that certainly trickles down through the lineup. I think there are probably more than a few guys out there who think the science side of Bryson is mostly for show. I’ve spent some time around him, and I can tell you he’s 100% the real deal when it comes to understanding the physics of golf. At the F9 launch event, for example, Bryson invited members of the R&D team to dinner because he wanted to discuss angular velocity and driver bulge and roll. Apparently, he had some concerns. The dude is in it every step of the way and I was told by one of the Cobra guys who has been around for more than a second, that Bryson is more concerned about making products that help the average guy play better than any player he’s ever worked with.

      As I said previously, at some point you need to trust that the really smart guys know what they’re doing. Of course, it you don’t think it works, it’s not exactly a big ordeal to bend the clubs.

      Don Kirk

      5 years ago

      Very disappointed to see the F9 SL Cobra’s still have the extreme differences in offset that the F8’s had. Strange, considering that Bryson does NOT have variable offsets in his Cobras. There’s a whopping 6 millimeter offset in the F9 SL five iron and a large 3.2 mm in the seven iron; this is a perfect example of enduring dinosaur-thinking at Cobra. Gladly bought a competitor’s SL set last year after rejecting Cobra’s fat variable offsets in their F8 SL irons.

      Aaron B.

      5 years ago

      Total weight isn’t very important. Swingweight is, which these OL irons achieve.

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      DaveMac

      5 years ago

      I found this comment very condescending.

      “and the typical lightweight graphite player isn’t likely to notice much of a difference”

      I disappointed that you think so little of the guy / girl who will be paying the most in a stock sense, that their game doesn’t warrant the same shaft quality as a high speed player.

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      Brandon

      5 years ago

      What I find more offensive is that golf companies keep the prices for “sets” of irons the same but give you less and less clubs. A set of irons should come with 8 clubs like they used to. It should be up to you to decide the makeup.

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      Mark

      5 years ago

      What I find interesting is the thought here that “made for” shafts are somehow junk. The oem’s have a responsibility to make at least a decent product or it would sell as though it were, in fact, junk. There are certain oem’s that are known for making great “made for” shafts (Ping anyone?). I’m sure the Cobra Fujikura Irons Shaft here is made to a level that both Cobra and Fujikura feel it will perform to their and the golfing masses desires…..or else, why would Fujikura agree to put their name on it?

      Tony Covey

      5 years ago

      PING is more the exception than the rule and they don’t make any attempt to mislead about what they’re using. They don’t name it the same as an aftermarket version, for example. And yes, many made for shafts are junk. Softer profiles are one thing, but quality control is also much laxer. Many OEMs use the shaft as a means to increase THEIR value. To bring costs down, corners have to be cut. One OEM used the same made for iron shaft in its flagship GI offerings for several years straight, but the branding changed from one year to the next so it looked fresh. Shaft companies often collect licensing fees without having any role in the actual creation of the shaft. If you haven’t done so already, I strongly suggest you read our article that explains some of what goes on with driver shafts (http://mygolfspy.com/made-for-shafts-a-closer-look/).

      Look at what graphite iron shafts cost in the aftermarket compared to how they impact iron set pricing. The math doesn’t work – it’s not the same quality of product.

      Tony Covey

      5 years ago

      It certainly wasn’t my intent to be condescending, but there are certain realities here.

      The first is that for every piece of equipment made a manufacturer decides who its audience and then builds/specs for that audience. In the case of stock graphite shafts, we’re talking about a guy with a sub-80 MPH driver swing speed. That guy doesn’t put the same load on the shaft that a faster swinger does, and so you can get away with a little bit more on the manufacturing end when your stock is a 65g graphite iron shaft.

      There are other graphite options in the Cobra catalog, but to step up to true aftermarket equivalent graphite, you’re looking at a minimum of $170 above the already higher graphite price. What conversation would be having right now if the F9 Speedback price structure was $799 steel and $970 – let’s round it up – $1000 graphite?

      Bottom line, costs for true aftermarket graphite iron shafts are significantly higher than steel, and with comparably limited volume, I’m guessing the wholesale price isn’t nearly as good as it for steel. Sure, equivalent quality would be nice, but the reality is that the target consumer for graphite shafts in this set doesn’t need it, and bumping to aftermarket equivalence would be incredibly cost prohibitive for the mass market. If you’re willing to foot the bill, you can still do whatever you’d like via custom.

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      Gerry T

      3 years ago

      Actually having stronger weight in graphite shafts is a compliment to myself and others who grew up playing graphite shafts where the heads fell off. If that’s your preference, DaveMac, feel free to go back to the dark ages. They might appreciate your lack of understanding and intelligence!

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      Rob

      5 years ago

      I’ve never liked the looks of Cobra’s GI irons…..Until now! By far the best looking GI iron they have made, and one of the best of the current crop.

      Love, Love, LOVE the Chrome!

      Reply

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