ULTIMATE REVIEW! – Adams Idea CMB Irons
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ULTIMATE REVIEW! – Adams Idea CMB Irons

ULTIMATE REVIEW! – Adams Idea CMB Irons

This may very well be the “single best looking iron” we’ve ever tested!

Adams CMB Irons

(Written By: GolfSpy T) There’s a trick writers will use from time to time when they’re jammed up. When you don’t know how to start, go the end and work your way to the beginning. Using that very same approach, I’ve been spinning the story of the new Adams CMB irons for the last 2 years.

Look…I’m a lucky guy. My job provides me with certain luxuries where golf equipment is concerned. Not everybody has the budget to play what I play, and that’s not excessively fair. But their costs and your budgets are what they are. So for the last two years, I’ve been trying to find a compromise. I’ve been looking…waiting really, for a truly special iron; one worthy of a subtitle I’ve been desperate to write.

I had no way of knowing what iron it would be, or when it would show up on my doorstep, but I was confident I’d know it when I saw it, and based on the way things have progressed over the last year and a half or so, I had a pretty damned good idea who would eventually make it.

Now you’re probably reading this and thinking, “what the hell is this clown talking about? What the bloody f^#k does any of this have to do with an iron review?”. These are fair questions. Bear with me. Indulge me a bit, and trust that I’m going somewhere with this, and that eventually someday I’ll get to the point. Hell…it took me two years to get this far. What’s 10 more minutes between friends?

Before we get to the meaty part of this review, let’s acknowledge that it is almost impossible not to mention the new overlords when discussing any Adams product these days, and that this…this type of player’s cavity back is likely what golfers fear losing the most as a result of the TaylorMade-Adidas acquisition of Adams Golf.

Hopefully the team at TaylorMade fully comprehends what they’ve managed to get their hands on, because this iron…the Adams CMB is a shining example of how to design a golf club and get every mother-f’n detail absolutely, 100% right.

The Marketing Angle

Quite frankly, this review doesn’t require any marketing crap (my word, not theirs) from Adams. This is, as you’ll soon see, an iron that will very likely sell itself the first time you swing it. Marketing mumbo jumbo is inconsequential. The irons themselves tell you everything you need to know, but for the sake of consistency, here’s the blah, blah, blah from Adams Golf on what they’re calling “The Most Playable Player’s Iron“.

  • Forged 1025 carbon steel body provides exceptional feel.
  • Unique tungsten weight inserts strategically placed low in the toe to position the center of gravity in the exact center of the scorelines. This creates enhanced feel and minimal twisting at impact.
  • Two-piece, laser plasma-welded forged construction.
  • Nickel-chrome satin finish gives these irons a unique and better player look.
  • 3-way cambered sole improves turf interaction.
  • Triple-milled (face, grooves & cavity) improves the scoreline design.
  • Progressive performance provides consistent forgiveness and ball flight control from long irons to scoring club

How We Tested

To find out more about how we test our irons: CLICK HERE

*We’re migrating our testing model to a custom fitting system, as such fewer testers (most within the target player demographic will participate in reviews). We absolutely would have liked to include our lowest handicap golfer in this test, however; he was unavailable due to a medical issue.

Radius-Based Scoring

For more information on our “Radius Based Scoring System”: CLICK HERE

Our test set included 4-GW with KBS C-Taper shafts in both stiff+ flex.

Short Iron Performance

With a 46° pitching wedge (50° gap wedge), the CMBs are slightly stronger than what I still consider to be the modern standard for a player’s iron. At 35.75″, the pitching wedge is also a tick longer than traditionalists like to see. You can harp on that detail or not…your choice, but I thought you might like to know.

In terms of general distance, our testers would likely tell you that distances are reasonably consistent with what is in their bags now, with the long irons perhaps being slightly longer. As I’ve always said, distance probably shouldn’t be a real concern when shopping for irons, and if it is, I’d politely suggest that the CMB is probably not right for you.

Looking at the raw averages the numbers are borderline stupid for a few reasons. So before I give you the data, let’s make sure we paint a complete picture of what could account for the numbers being what they are:

  • We used fewer testers. We’re modifying our testing protocols for irons such that we primarily test with guys inside the target handicap range for a given set of irons. No more 18 handicaps testing blades. No more 4 handicap golfers testing SGI clubs.
  • Mark couldn’t hit the short irons to save his life. It was – take 2 weeks off, and then quit – bad. Horrific. His was nothing short of the worst short iron test we’ve ever seen. It was so anomalous, especially when you consider his long iron test, that we dropped his score. To put this in full perspective,  our graphic shows an area 20 yards by 20 yards with the target in the middle. Despite this relatively large area, Mark only placed 4 balls (of 10) on the screen…with a short iron. I can’t recall another occasion where a tester failed to put less than 9 on the screen. It’s an abomination.
  • When I did my portion of the short iron test, I found myself in that zone we all wish we could spend a bit more time in. Offsetting Mark’s worst short iron test ever was my best short iron test ever.

So with that out of the way…our testers missed the target pin by an average of 31.45 feet. That’s obviously well into the not-so-good range, but we have to maintain perspective here while understanding that Mark (who incidentally was not swinging left handed) missed by over 60 feet on average…average. His best shot missed by just under 9 feet. His worse miss (after we threw out 2 that were worse still) was by an alarming, yet strangely brilliant, 106.38 feet. Wow. In case you’re wondering, futility has a mustache.

If we drop Mark from the math (which we do for scoring purposes only), the group average improves substantially to 16.79 feet. Basically, overall accuracy nearly doubles simply by kicking one guy to the curb. He was just that bad…and then some.

As you can see misses (not counting Mark) favored the right-side slightly, with an average miss of 8.59 feet (left to right).  Telling is that, while our competent testers missed the target distance by an average of 12.83 feet (18.3 feet with Mark included) nearly as many shots missed long as short.

Finally, when we look more closely for birdie opportunities we find that our group of testers as a whole managed 7 shots inside of 10 feet. We rarely see 7 inside of 10 when we test with 6 golfers, so from a pinpoint accuracy perspective, the results are pretty damn impressive.

If we’re feeling generous, and bump birdie range out to 107 feet, even all 10 of Mark’s shots are within range, however; at a more reasonable distance of 15 feet, the number of birdie opportunities climbs to 11.

If we exclude Mark from the scoring formula…and we feel like we absolutely have to out of fairness, the Adams CMB short irons performed exceptionally well.

Short Iron Performance Score 91.84

Middle Iron Performance

With the middle irons our testers produced some interesting results. I was slightly worse, Nick was slightly better, and Mark, while not great, showed some improvement.

What the data shows is that our testers missed the target by an average of 33.56 feet. Once again, while better, individually Mark had arguably his worst middle iron performance ever. When we drop him from the math, the group average improves to 25.25 feet. Comparatively speaking, the 33.56 feet isn’t near the top, but the adjusted average would be among the very best…and I think that’s what we need to think about here.

When we look purely at our testers ability to put the ball close to the center line, we find that our testers missed by an average of 27.31 feet. That’s ugly. When we drop captain hook, however; center line accuracy jumps to 18.40 feet, which is much, much better.

Interestingly, distance control played out quite a bit differently from left/right accuracy. Our testers missed their distance by an average of 14.02 feet. While on its own that number is well above average, when we drop the lowest performing golfer, we see an improvement of almost 2 feet to 12.12 feet.

Looking at what matters most (the probability of draining a putt), we find that our testers were able to place 5 shots inside of 15 feet. We like how we’re putting today, so we’re going to call birdie range 20 feet. In that case, the number of one-putt birdie opportunities improves to 11, and even Mark gets in on the fun.

Middle Iron Performance Score: 90.34

Long Iron Performance

Here’s where things get interesting. My test played out similarly to just about every other long iron I’ve ever tested. Nick stepped up his game a bit, and Mark…well Mark, pulled his head out of his ass and decided to play some serious golf.

Looking at the raw averages, our testers (armed largely with 4 irons) missed the target by an average of 32.31 feet. When the lowest tester is dropped, the improvement is relatively modest; gaining less than a foot to 31.59 feet. Any way you crunch the numbers; this is the single best long iron test we’ve had to date.

Looking at proximity to the center line, we see that our testers missed the mark by an average of 32.28 feet, and 23.60 feet adjusted, both of which are above average.

When we look solely at our testers ability to hit the club the appropriate distance (for many the most difficult piece of the long iron puzzle), we find that our testers missed the distance by an average of 18.15 feet. When the least consistent tester is removed the number improves to 16.63 feet, which is also excellent.

Finally, seeking out those rare birdie opportunities; when we look inside 20 feet, we find our testers hit a total of  8 shots that qualify. Bumped out to 25 feet, the number of birdie chances climbs to 12. While not the highest total we’ve ever seen, considering we had only 3 testers, from a percentage standpoint the results are likely the best to date.

Long Iron Performance Score: 90.41

Performance Notes

There’s little doubt in my mind that the Adams CMB irons are among the highest performing irons we’ve tested to date. Certainly we have to acknowledge that Mark’s abomination with the short irons is cause for concern, however; we feel his steady improvement, and outstanding long iron score more than mitigate his initial results, while suggesting he perhaps just needed more swings than normal to get loose.

The bottom line here is that the CMB is yet another in a growing line of ridiculously good player’s iron from Adams.

The Interactive Data

The charts below show the individual and group averages (black dotted line) for each shot our golfers took during our test of the Adams Idea CMB Irons. You can click on each of 3 tabs (Adams CMB – Short Irons, Adams CMB – Mid Irons, Adams CMB – Long Irons) you can see where each shot came to rest on our virtual driving range, and the raw data (averages) for each of our testers. Hovering over any point will give you all the details of that particular shot. You can use the filters on the right-hand side to show and hide individual golfer based on handicap and proximity to the pin. At your whimsy you can drag the Distance from Hole slider around to show you how many shots fell within the area you specify.



Looks

It’s hard to know where to begin and end where the looks of the Adams CMB irons are concerned, but I’ll start with this:

Stunning to the point I don’t want to pound them into the dirt” – Mark C.

Nick told us he thinks they’re the best looking iron we’ve had in for review…ever. Kent (the owner of Tarks – our test facility), has literally seen everything that’s come through the doors in the last 3 years, and he said exactly the same time (without hearing Nick say it first).

Honestly, I’m struggling to find fault with anything Adams did here. The matte finish on the sole works flawlessly with the Nickel-chrome satin found elsewhere on the head. The gold CMB badge which reflects more light than we’d like it to in photos, isn’t nearly as ostentatious as it might appear, and the milling on the cavity badge is just enough to give the head some added distinction without crossing the line to pretense.

Where shape is concerned, the CMB offers everything the low to mid handicap golfer could ask for. The head is compact, but not intimidating. The topline is relatively thin, and remains consistent from the 4-iron through the gap wedge. Offset is progressive, but never offensive.

They are perfect.

Paired with the stock KBS C-Taper shafts, and White and Black GolfPride New Decade Multi-Compound grips, and I’m inclined to agree with everyone. The Adams CMB may very well be the single best looking iron we’ve ever tested, and that’s saying quite a bit.

MGS Looks Score: 100

Sound & Feel

The score you see below tells more about what the Adams CMB isn’t, than what it actually is. Feel, particularly with an iron, often boils down to the perception of softness. I can assure you the Adams CMB is a soft iron ( the small dings on our samples suggest as much). Where feel as it relates to feedback is concerned, the CMB probably isn’t as soft as…well…most any Mizuno iron we’ve ever tested. Nor does it feel as soft as the surprisingly amazing Wilson FG Tour iron.

What the Adams CMB is – is crisp. It’s the closest I’ve ever felt to my Miura CB-501s, and that in and of itself should tell you nearly everything you need to know about this tremendous iron.

If you’re looking for an iron that’s buttery soft on anything near the center of the clubface, the CMB probably isn’t going to give you everything you look for. If you want something that will make you giddy like school girl at a Justin Bieber concert every time the center of the face hits the ball…this one is special.

MGS Feel Score: 96.75

Perceived Forgiveness

I did have to laugh just a bit when the forgiveness scores came back. By my estimation it’s probably the 4th most forgiving iron we’ve tested from Adams in the last year (CB3, Idea Pro a12, and a12 OS are all probably more forgiving), but when you consider its place in the Adams lineup, it’s everything it should be and more. It’s familiar to me.

Let’s not fool ourselves into thinking the Adams CMB is anywhere near as forgiving as say… Rihanna (just an example). If forgiveness is near the top of your list, go elsewhere.

No doubt our testers probably thought of forgiveness in terms of how well they hit the best of the CMB set (long vs. short. vs. middle), and if we’re rating the CMB against other irons in its class (which we should be), our testers and I more or less agree.

Tester Perceived Forgiveness Score: 93.17

Likelihood of Purchase

How do you think this is going to play out? You’ve got guys who mostly hit the CMB irons as well or better than any iron we’ve tested. You’ve got guys who tell you that they think the CMBs are the best looking irons we’ve ever tested. And you’ve got guys who, even if they aren’t the softest, think the CMBs are among the best feeling (and most forgiving) player’s cavity backs we’ve ever tested.

Love these irons and everything about them” – Nick B.

Surprising to no one (I hope), this is a recipe for a club that EVERYONE wants to put in their bag…yesterday.

Tester Likelihood of Purchase: 100

Just one guy’s (and a bunch of other guy’s) opinion here, but if we’re talking about the subjective qualities of the Adams CMB iron, this one is special. Arguably it’s the single most impressive iron we’ve ever put through our testing process, and one of now 3 (Adams MB2 and Mizuno MP-59s), that I wish I could hang on a wall in my man room (I don’t actually have one of those…my daughter has a playroom instead…which is less cool, and frankly pisses me off a little).

While a 100% buy-in rate is next to impossible, the CMB is an iron I think you’re really going to love.

CONCLUSION

At this outset of this thing I babbled quite a bit about, hell…I can barely remember. Anyway…two years ago I was fortunate enough to receive a set of Miura CB-501 irons for testing. For my money…for really any amount of money, properly fit, I think they’re the best irons I’ve ever had the opportunity to test. The downside is that my Miura’s run about $2000; well above the bottom line of what most golfers are willing to pay for a set of irons.

I get that – and it’s not fair. So from the first time I hit those irons, I’ve been searching for what I suppose you might call the poor man’s version. In nearly every respect, design, feel, and performance, the Adams CMB are the closest things I’ve ever seen to the Miura CB-501s…and they cost roughly half as much (full disclosure, at $999/set the CMBs still qualify as a premium priced forged offering).

I dare you to hit them and not take them home” – Mark C.

I have never, and I will never tell anyone “You must go buy these irons“, but dude, if you’re going to buy a set of player’s cavity backs, you damn sure better try this iron. Just don’t try it first – you may not try anything else. In my estimation the Adams CMB are every bit worthy of being called The Poor Man’s CB-501, but if you are that poor man who puts them in your bag, I wouldn’t expect anyone to feel sorry for you.

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      PMercer

      3 months ago

      Howdy folks – just picked up a new set of these. Factory Matrix 80R, 6-Gap. Needless to say, I’m VERY excited to give them a run this spring, 13+ years since this review was posted. ;) PM

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      Peter J/ UK

      8 years ago

      As usual MGS gets it ”spot on” regarding the CMB’s but I have found them even better!
      I don’t know if it is the performance of the head or the C taper shafts but as a mid handicapper I am amazed by the piercing flight. I find them more accurate and longer than my Ping i20’s. and just as forgiving. They feel so responsive.

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      Rich

      10 years ago

      Tony- there is no jpx-850 pro I know of– but there is an 825 pro. And for a mid- high handicap player this is a better choice than the Adams CMB.
      Also despite what the Tim indicates- the CMB is somewhat firm feeling on impact- clicky. I own or have owned most every iron on the planet. The mizuno forged irons are the buttery soft feeling that many look for- this iron is does not have that feeling- it is really really good though . In my opinion the ap2 is slightly softer feeling at least the 714. I surely don’t know it all – but after 45 years of golf and still carry a 3 handicap I am pretty confident of what I am feeling. I can work the ball either way with the CMB- and I think it is the best looking iron in the class of almost blades- and you will not be disappointed with a purchase of this iron with the shaft that fits you. Good luck

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      Tony

      10 years ago

      Has any hit the Adams Idea CMB and Mizuno JPX 850 Pro. Which one do you like and why? Which one is better for a Mid-High h/c player?

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      Rich

      11 years ago

      I would suggest that these are as beautiful of iron as exists. The sole-turf interaction is excellent and the sight down the shaft is really superb. I believe these are somewhat “clicky” in their feel. As stated Mizunos feel better-but so do Titleist and Taylormade. I have Aerotech shafts in them and have tested pretty much every club with that same shaft. If you are a guy that lives on feel- this will not be the best iron choice–if you want a beautiful club that performs well and are willing to sacrifice a bit of feel- there is no better choice.

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      Timlangler

      11 years ago

      Hey mate, I tend to disagree with a couple of your comments. These irons are far from clicky.They are not as soft as mizuno blades, however, they are equally, if not, more so softer than titleist, and compared to tailor-made, the cmbs are in a way different league.

      Look guys, they are soft as anything when you hit them outta the middle. They are workable high and low as well as left and right, and they offer enough forgiveness for someone wanting to improve their golf. When i say that, if you cannot find the middle of the club consistently, these may not be for you.

      I reckon they’re pure. I find them piss easy to hit and i do not reckon i could play blades. I got them because they look bladey, feel bladey, and have a large enough sweet spot to pure it almost every time. But in saying that, there is a middle of the middle, and that is a place that is indescribable….

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      Harry

      11 years ago

      Good Review

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      TCMPGolf

      11 years ago

      I am surprised Mark, Nic and golfspy T were able to hit the C-Taper S+ shafts in these irons with their swing speeds. Those are Very stiff shafts and require a VERY late release to utilize the potential they are designed to offer.

      83mph with an extremely late release would be much better off with an R+ hardstepped once or a S flex at most. S+ is what guys like Justin Rose use on Tour, who release it late and swing above 90mph with the mid irons (6i swing speed for Justin is around 91-92)

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      Humbug

      11 years ago

      I just bought a set set of CMB’s off Ebay. I had tried them out at a golf store and really liked the way they felt. I have played with them a couple of times. The jury is still out. I have hit some of the mid irons shorter than normal, yet the short irons longer. I haven’t figured it out yet if it’s the shaft or me not swinging hard enough. Guess I need to go to the range and figure it out. I do love the irons though. They are beautiful, and feel great.

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      David

      11 years ago

      Just ordered mine stiff soft stepped once cant wait to hit them I think the entire bag (minus wedges) are going to be adams. I just hope that TM did not change their customer service, Adams is the best with customer service.

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      Gab

      11 years ago

      I just picked up my CMBs yesterday and have had 2 range sessions so far with them. I can easily say these irons are by far the softest and best I have ever hit….And thats with range balls. The feel (and look) are simply amazing! I have put in Project X pxi shafts and the combination is friggin awesome. Believe the hype with these beauties.

      BTW, I was playing Mizuno MP58 with Project X shafts and the CMBs simply destroy the Mizzys in the feel department. I even demoed the 64’s and the CMBs win hands down. Big call but its true.

      I am playing my first round with them tomorrow so I can’t wait.

      WELL DONE ADAMS!!!

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      Gab

      11 years ago

      Well, it’s been just over a month now using the cmb’s and they are a solid performer with ample forgiveness for a player’s club. I like them but i have made the mistake in recently trying out a set of Miura combo irons (cb 202 in 3-6 & tournament blades 7 to pw) and the Miuras win hands down. The feel of the Miuras are just way too good to ignore. The Miuras actually make the CMBs feel like a cast iron. A lot of the shots i hit with the blades in particular, were heavenly, so soft in fact that i couldn’t even feel the ball leave the face (i think i orgasmed at that point). As a result, I’m going to sell the CMBs. I do admit that the CMBs were close to the softest & best irons i had hit….until i hit the irons made from the hands of God in Master Miura.

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      Warren Wright

      11 years ago

      I have a set of these with reg. flex KBS tour 90 shafts. Best feel of any set of clubs I have ever owned. It’s really visceral and downright cool how the ball feels coming off the face of these clubs. Produces a high penetrating ball flight (the light shafts) with nice accuracy and forgiveness on mishits. The wind was blowing over 20 from the south at the range but my balls were cutting right through to the flags. My confidence in my swing has gone up because these irons feel so friendly.
      I’ve hit lots of different clubs which felt good, but the CMBs were MIGHTY impressive overall, so I bought them and had them fitted to my swing. Don’t buy anything until you demo these clubs!

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      timlangler

      11 years ago

      Hey Gudmunder,

      you will have no problem. If you can hit an MP63, i have no doubt at all you will hit cmbs. I am a mid teen handicapper, should be single figure but i don’t practice, and i hit these no problem at all. If you get fit properly for them, you should be able to nail it!

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      James

      11 years ago

      I have a set of CMB’s with DGTTx100 tour issue shafts. I have played CTypre in my Mizuno MP 63 and Miura CB 202’s I also played KBS tour X flex in the CB 202’s. I play of 1 handicap and irons are my strong part of my game. Point is that all the heads are great and all the shafts are great. Tour players use all of them. The issue is this. What clubface and shape. Do you like and then have the shaft fitted that gives you the performance you like. The reason I sold my Miura irons is that the short irons are realy big and I don’t like the shape of the heads. Also the transition from the 8 iron to the 7 iron looks like you changing from one set to another. Miura make great clubs but they don’t fit my eye. Mizuno is great and the new MP 64 is fantastic. But I don’t like the chrome finish, glare is a problem. I like the CMB’s great feel, great look and for me the X100’s are great. Will I pay double for a set of Miura irons if I have a MP64 and CMB as options? A big NO. You cannot put the AP2 in the same category.

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      Gudmundur

      11 years ago

      Hello :)
      Iam playing Mizuno mp-63 project x 5.5 shafts and i would like to play Adams cmb KBS C-TAPER s,,,,,will i have any trouble using them???

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      James

      12 years ago

      I have a set of Miura CB 202 and 501 and played Tournement Blades. all three sets that I bought 2nd hand and had custom fitted. I recieved a set of CMB’s to test from a friend with TTDG x 100 I have C typre S+ in my CB 202 and 501’s. I playof 2 handicap and play competitive golf. after 5 rounds of golf and 1 practice session on the range, my CB 202 are up for sale and the 501’s are the 2nd set. I am not a tech nut so all the tech stuff does not impress me. I also dont need all the new drivers and irons as I grew up playing golf in a time when new irons where released ever 3 or 4 years and I played with a set of Founders CB tour irons for 8 years, the best golf I ever played. The CMB’s are the first irons that I will go to a store and buy new provided they can fir me with the DG x100 tour issue. I like the shape of the clubs better than the miura and the feel is as good if not better. in the last 5 rounds I have played better iron shots then in the past 30. in my book, the best set of irons I have played, and I was not looking for a new set.

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      timlangler

      12 years ago

      I put an order in for these last night! Cannot wait for them to arrive! So excited….. Finally putting the old TM RAC LTs in retirement….

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      Scott Shields

      12 years ago

      I own these babies, 1* upright, and with the KBS C-taper Stiff 120. FYI for those that haven’t hit that shaft, it plays (in my opinion) about a half of stiffness stiffer than the DGS300’s I have in my AP2’s. When I went to buy irons, an Adams set was not what I thought I was going to get…but after hitting them, and seeing them, I couldn’t be happier with them. When flushed, they peform brilliantly, and the tungeston plugs are nice for when you lose one towards the toe. I love these things, and Adams has a good thing going…what a good year for them with their XTD hybrid and fairway wood, now these… :-)

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      timlangler

      12 years ago

      Righto. I just demoed these tonight on the range… I have been looking at these and the mizuno mp59… Now i definitely have a decision on my hands. I found these irons performed as good, if not better, than the mp 59s. Both irons perform the same in my opinion. I had the kbs tour shafts in the 59s when i hit them. These cmb irons are a beautiful club. The above review is 100% correct. I felt with the mizuno you can fee the ball compress and squash into the clubface. With the cmb irons, it was a much cleaner feel. Having hit the 59s, going away they are beautiful and soft, and how nothing will be able to compare, having hit the cmb now, i am beginning to feel that the mizunos are too soft. The cmb is a soft yet crisp and clean feel. The sound is sweet as! They talk about the c tapers producing a low ball flight. I had no problem in getting the ball in the air. However, the 4 iron had a trajectory that made me near jizz in my pants. It was like a tracer bullet. I would love to see a 3 iron. Man i bet it would HUNT!!!! I am seriously thinking about getting these irons. I would recommend these to anyone who can hit the ball pure… Definately a sweet iron!

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      M

      12 years ago

      Ok, I am going to give this a shot from a purely not-technical perspective. I purchased the CMB’s about a month ago and never looked back. My current index is something like 6.5. I was a bit concerned about the forgivness aspect of the clubs as well as the whole c-taper deal, and an pretty thin topline. All in all was this really the club for me. Well after a month and a half there is no doubt. I LOVE these irons. Comparison to the Titleist AP 2’s? At the risk of offending some folks here…….they blow them away!!!! I do not like the AP 2 turf interaction at ALL!!! The CMB’s interact in a much better way. Are they pure butter? No. I had heard some folks over at golfwrx say they are Mizuno soft…..as T said they are not. They are however plenty soft and his description as being crisp I think is a good one. And beautiful….WOW……there is not a single thing I don’t like about the way they look up close and personal…….sheer beauty in a golf club. The c-taper concern…..unfounded for me. I came from Project 6.0’s and had no trouble with them…….as you can tell I am pretty up on these irons. They are in the players cavity back category of golf club. If you are say 12 or upward in handicap you might want to strongly consider looking elsewhere, but oh boy what a club.

      Best to all, even if you don’t think this might be the club for you……give them a try…..forewarning!!!…….your wallet might be sorry you did.

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      oliglf

      12 years ago

      Whats with I have to make a forced $25.00 donation? Whats with a100% focus on those who give you clubs? Check out Swing Science Forged… probably better than or at least right there with anything out there. Get out of America and check out the rest of the World. Be who you started out to be.

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      GolfSpy T

      12 years ago

      Nobody is forced to make a donation in any amount. You have the option to donate (any amount) or not at your discretion.

      Regarding SwingScience and other component companies….we occasionally reach out to component brands. Many dont’ respond or aren’t willing to provide adequate product for testing. It’s that simple.

      Regarding SwingScience in particular…we work very closely witha SwingScience dealer. I can assure you their forgings are simply not in the same class as the Adams CMB, Mizuno, or other top shelf iron offerings. Unless something has changed in the last year, the finish on their woods is also among the least durable I’ve seen.

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      Guy Miller

      12 years ago

      I’m surprised that you didn’t address the issue Adams has been having with the chrome chipping off these irons. I actually purchased as set back in July and, when my fitter attempted to adjust the lie, he noticed the chrome was flaking off. (Obviously, I was given a refund.) I subsequently checked some online reviews (GolfWrx is one that immediately comes to mind) and they covered this issue extensively. My understanding is that Adams may have shopped shipping on these irons pending resolution of the chrome issue.

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      GolfSpy T

      12 years ago

      Guy,

      I’m not saying the issue isn’t real. You’ve experienced, and it sounds like some of the guys at WRX as well. We haven’t had that issue with our set…at least not as of yet.

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      Guy Miller

      12 years ago

      Good to know. Perhaps more of a isolated manufacturing issue that a design one (which, obviously, would be great news). To be clear, I did love the clubs and was disappointed when I had to cancel my order.

      Jim Angkham

      12 years ago

      I’m using an A12 with a PX 6.0. It has lower my handicap from double to single digits. This review makes me want to go out and get one. But after reading the comments about the shafts, I’m just more confused. Should I or should I not get the iron set in the C-Taper stiff flex? Because you guys are saying that it would be stiffer than the PX6.0 shaft, and the R flex is too soft. Which is which?
      I’m living in Laos, and they have zero Pro-shops here that can fit me. The good thing is, I’m can hit from the box without a problem. My only concern is the stiffness of the shafts. Help!

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      TK

      12 years ago

      Thanks JMiller065 for the great explanation.

      I’m thinking the CMBs will be occupying a place in my bag next month…:)

      TK

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      MG

      12 years ago

      Can you comment on how the CMB’s compare to the A12 pro’s? What type of player would benefit from each club?

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      jmiller065

      12 years ago

      I’ll give this a shot, why not…

      CMB would benefit the lower end of the spectrum more, it has blade like control but has some forgiveness built in. Think of the Mizuno MP-60, MP-62, MP-63, MP-64 irons in terms of players CB control and really the same amount of forgiveness pretty much on off center hits, maybe a little more give in the CMB. The CMB comes with a C-Taper installed, that flat screams at the lower handicap player that balloons other shafts like DG and the KBS Tour and helps provide a flatter ball flight for the player that really traps the ball and gets a good amount of spin. The C-Taper is perfect for a player that is a high launch & high spin player. But even if you are a middle ground launch and high spin it still works well.

      The Pro a12 irons have a higher launch angle, probably do to the fact that they have the KBS Tour line in them but I still think with a c-taper it would still be a little higher. I personally can confirm what is said in this review on forgiveness in terms of the a12 being a little more forgiving then the CMB.

      So imho a12 leans more towards the middle handicap where the CMb leans more towards the lower handicap golfer. I’m a 3.2 handicap if that helps any in what I see or feel in clubs / shafts, I would game the CMB before the a12s personally…

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      Woody

      12 years ago

      These look a lot like my Mizuno’s.

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      Brad Smith

      12 years ago

      A slight correction that shows how terrible Mark was hitting those short irons…..you said that your graphic for shot location is a 20 yd by 20 yard box with the target in the middle and he only hit 4 into it. In fact, it is a 40 yd by 40 yd box. And he only hit 4 of 10 into that huge area. Yikes!

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      TK

      12 years ago

      Hi guys,

      Great review!
      I am looking @ either the Adams CMB or the AP2s. My question is – I currently play the original AP2 irons with a DG Stiff shaft. How does the KBS C-Tapers perform/feel when compared to the DG?

      Is a stiff in the DG the same as a stiff in the C-Tapers? According to what I read in the reviews/comments (all great btw), maybe the R C-Tapers are more inline with the DG stiff…and I know the C-Tapers will bring down my ball flight – I have no problem with that.

      Any input is appreciated.

      God Bless,
      TK

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      jmiller065

      12 years ago

      I played the original AP2 myself (2008 model) before going into my W/S FG62s currently, before then I played the Mizuno MP-60s… I was kicking myself in the ass for going to the AP2 honestly, way to big of a profile and lost complete feel of my shots… The best I got with the AP2s in the bag was a 8 handicap… I have gotten down to a 3.2 currently with my blades..

      I think that you are going to find that you have more “feel” and “control” on the CMB then the AP2s personally, like I was saying earlier, I’m not a CB guy anymore but if I were CMB are damn good.

      As for shafts they are not even close to each other in terms of feel and profile plus the weight are different from one another. Let me explain a little maybe this will help I’m not sure… KBS is a SMOOTH feeling shaft, some might feel like the shaft is too weak in transition because the load feels about 0.5 co-efficient softer then the rating but preform up to the rating expectations. DG s300 is more in the middle ground in terms of feel in the load, not super harsh but not super smooth either.

      KBS C-Taper Stiff ~ 120g, 6.3 rating (feels more like a 5.8), very stiff tip to reduce spin, the C-Taper is designed for players that have issue with over spinning DG shafts in short, the player that would fit into a Project X shaft but likes a smoother feel.

      DG s300 ~ 130g, 6.3 rating (roughly) (feels like a typical bench mark stiff), medium stiff tip, most people will see more spin in the DG line thing the C-Taper line. If you have a harsh transition you probably will feel like the s300 is a better shaft and you might feel like you over power the KBS line.

      So really in terms of feel you would be looking at the S+ to be about the same over all stiffness as the DG s300 but even the s+ is 5gs lighter rather then 10grams. You have to expect your swing weight to change from DG s300 into a KBS C-Taper Stiff or even that KBS Tour (more drastic change). KBS C-Tapers / Tours mirror the weights of the PX line so the R flex is 110g where the DG r300 is 127g big jump and drastic change in swing weight.

      Assuming that everything stays the same, Moving from a DG x100 (130g) into a KBS C-Taper (130g), grip stays the same, head weight the same, you will lose 1swing weight point going from DG into KBS, the KBS Tour you will lose 2 points in the same situation. So a D2 would go to a D1 (C-Taper), D0 (Tour).

      Hope that helps if you need more info PM me on the forum I can try and provide more insight into the comparison.

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      Brian

      12 years ago

      I hit these yesterday at Golfsmith in Livingston NJ. They look better than the AP2’s and feel great. C Taper stock is a nice upgrade. All in all it’s one impressive club, satin finish is fantastic, feel is really good. Not mizuno soft but really, really good. I’m going to pull trigger on these, a split set of mp 64’s and 69’s or a set of the new callway forged coming out. If you are thinking of buying AP2’s you MUST hit these Adams CMB’s before you pull the trigger. Way more of a blade look at address. Well done Adams.

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      jmiller065

      12 years ago

      Okay, I wanted to chime in here and give my opinion, like T I get the opportunity to test a TON of golf equipment. I have hit almost everything, Miura being at the top of the List Tourney Blades, 1957s, CB-301, CB-501, MacGregor Forged by Miura CBs I have hit a wide variety of the Miura line up. I would say that yes they are soft but not real silly soft, they are a perfect balance in terms of feel in my opinion.

      The closest thing that I have found to the Tourney Blade is a Mizuno & W/S blade, that says a lot. As for a CB, I have not found one yet that comes close to a CB-301 / CB-501 Miura in terms of performance and feel… I knew where T was going right off the rip because I got the chance to finally hit one of the CMBs and it flat blew me away… I was rendered speechless and that is HARD to do for me. Anyone that reads my posts knows that I’m an honest and opinionated type of guy that normally has something to say about a product.

      If I were to play a CB again the Adams CMB is right on top of my list. Where it has a bigger profile then I would prefer it is something that I can over look because they preform very well. The only thing is the stock shaft option is not going to fit everyone, it is still targeted as a players iron and the C-Taper is a players shaft.

      Finally GolfSpy T and I agree 110% on a review and won’t have to get into any debates about the data presentation, fitting, or other bulls*** that I normally point out in reviews. For once I could just read this review and go, “yes, yes, yes, yes” and not once say a “not exactly true” type of thing. That includes that these iron preform and feel almost the same as a Miura CB-501… For $1000 they are a GREAT BUY you have to realize that a C-Taper sells at $35 a shaft, a $280 price tag on the set not installed. You remove that from the equation you are getting the heads for roughly $720 Figure if they have a DG or KBS Tour in them they run $800 to $900 right in line with all other equipment in the same category.

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      jmiller065

      12 years ago

      A side note on the shafts since it has been a topic of discussion above. A shaft’s Butt frequency / co-efficient only tells a little bit about the shaft and not how over all it will preform. I play the KBS C-Taper X-Stiff in my 5 thru P irons and the KBS Tour X-Stiff in the 3 and 4 irons. Hopefully I can shed some light on the situation and explain the KBS line up.

      KBS C-Taper X-Stiff co-efficient rating = 7.3
      KBS Tour X-Stiff co-efficient rating = 7.1
      Project X co-effect ranting = 6.5, 7.0, etc

      KBS C-Taper X-Stiff FEELS ~ 6.8 preforms like a 7.0 line (smooth shaft in transition / load)
      KBS Tour X-Stiff FEELS ~ 6.6 preforms like a 7.0 line (smooth shaft in transition / load)
      PX 6.5 FEELS like a 7.0 line and preforms like a 7.0 line (harsh feeling shaft in transition/ load)

      The C-Taper was designed to directly compete with the PX line up, that is why I am using it to compare against the C-Taper, the KBS Tour line might be better compared to a DG or another stepped shaft line up.

      Just because the co-efficient (Butt CPM Frequency) is the same doesn’t mean the shafts play the same that holds true for ALL shafts not just steel iron shafts.

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      GolfSpy T

      12 years ago

      Great point…and one everybody should keep in mind.

      Yes, KBS C-Tapers could be considered *butt-stiff* as a result, clubmakers who don’t have a ton of experience with the shafts will tell you that they’re stiffer than the flex suggests. But again, this is a determination based exclusively on butt frequency.

      With any shaft, it’s important to understand the entire profile of the shaft rather than rely on a single measurement.

      tider992010

      12 years ago

      They look like beuties………I’m really becoming an ADAMS fan. I like the way they are going!

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      Drew

      12 years ago

      This test was done from hitting of mats, correct? I remember when I got my PIng G15s and first hit them of a mat…pure crisp shots galore. Then I took them to the course…very different story!

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      Tooler

      12 years ago

      Loved testing the CMB’s great swing balance, soft feel, beautiful looking, Pure Sex. Can’t figure for the life of me why I struggled with the short irons. Hope to get my hands on them again for some redemption, won’t be able to repost the results though. Have also swung the AP2’s, the CMB’s are a lot cleaner in appearance, less congestion in the cavity, and every bit as sweet.
      Mark

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      stevenhw8

      12 years ago

      OK you convinced me! I’ll go to the store this weekend and try them out!
      But if the C-Taper are as stiff as Super Tuna says… then they are out of the question for me… when I did my Mizuno fitting, I wasn’t able to swing the S300 consistently. Imagine it hard-stepped twice!

      Nice paper, T!

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      Tyk

      12 years ago

      Nice review, these might be the iron that fills out the rest of my set!

      Really like the interactive features on the charts but have one small suggestion: could you use colors other than red and green? I’m red/green colorblind, which is pretty common especially among men, and I can’t tell the colors apart! Just a suggestion, if it’s easy to do I’d appreciate it!

      Tyk

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      Larry

      12 years ago

      Great review. I lust for these clubs. I’m interested in the ozik matrix graphite shaft performance. Too bad, could have sealed the deal. Thx again. Hope Mark feels better (swings better) soon.

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      timlangler

      12 years ago

      I love the look of these irons. I live in australia, and unfortunately, there is only one or two demo sets doing the rounds around the country!!!!!! I am still waiting for my local golf shop to get them in for me. Being down under sucks sometimes!
      I would love someone to respond to my question if they klnow the answer. I have been fitted for mp59s, and i love them. Yet, I can’t buy them without hitting the cmb iron. Can anyone give me an idea on the forgiveness comparison between the cmb and the mp59? I also need a response on whether you guys could get the ball to spin and bite with the cmb. I have seen a few vids and the guys on the vids say that they are “low spinning”. I live on a beachside links style golf course (The Sands, Torquay) i need good bite to hold the greens.
      So if anyone can inform me about the cmb compared to the mp59, that would be great!

      Thanks in advance!!!!

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      Dmac

      12 years ago

      I demoed the cmb and mp59 and decided to go with the cmb’s. Forgiveness for me was very similar between the two with the Adams just edging it in that department but not by much. I also preferred the feel of the Adams but feel is a very subjective thing and they both felt very nice. Prob had about a dozen rounds with the Adams now and I’ve not had a problem getting balls to check. I was getting about 200rpms less with the c tapers than my s400s and a slightly lower launch. Hope this helps

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      timlangler

      12 years ago

      Cheers Dmac….
      A demo set just came in my local golf shop! I’m picking them up this arvo! Its actually quite disturbing how excited i am!!!! I’ll let you know how i go!

      timlangler

      12 years ago

      Just gota demo of the PW, 8i,6i and 4i… Read below for my response

      pkielwa

      12 years ago

      Oh my goodness, those are gorgeous!!! I challenge you to test the Bridgestone J40 DPCs!!!

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      Max

      12 years ago

      The only current irons that I find better looking are the Bridgestone j40 CBs. The Adams CMBs are a close second but may appeal more to those that like a little technology in their iron designs.

      I got to try a few swings with the CMBs at an indoor shop this summer. I was really interested in testing the feel of the iron and how the C-taper shaft flexed. Those shafts are hard to come by around me. I can’t really say a lot because I could not see trajectory and ball flight beyond the net 10 ft in front of me. I play KBS Tours in S flex and Rifle PX 6.0 in my previous set so I thought the S flex C-Taper would be about right for me. Boy, was I wrong. I’m not sure if I got the thing to bend even when I started swinging harder. In fact, I was so put off by the shaft that I couldn’t even get a good read on how the head felt at impact.

      Has anyone else noticed such a dramatic difference between Tours and C-Tapers? What C-Taper flex would be the equivalent of a KBS Tour in S? Is it R+? It just seems wierd for them to be that different.

      Has anyone hit the Bridgestone j40s and can they comment on the feel vs. Adams CMBs vs. Mizuno MP59s?

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      Ken w

      12 years ago

      I totally agree. C-tapers are 5.2 frequency for regular shaft and 6.2 for stiff. I got that info directly from kbs. But they feel much stiffer than that! I bought a set of CMB’s with regular flex and traded them in within two weeks. I just couldn’t get comfortable with the shaft. Probably because I’ve been playing DGSL’s primarily for the last few years. However I sometimes play with 5.5 project x so I thought they’d be right for me and lower my very high trajectory. What makes it even more baffling is that I’d built a set of Burner 2.0’s with the c-taper in 5.25 and loved them so much that I was convinced the CMB’s would be perfect for me. All I can figure is that the parallel tips play different than the taper tip. I just couldn’t load the shaft and lost significant distance (more than a club). I also couldn’t feel any difference between a center hit and a toe or heel hit. My buddy bought the burners from me and is hitting the best iron shots he’s ever hit and I just won my club championship with CB3’s. So i guess it all turned out ok. But I’m totally at a loss for what I missed because I love the CMB’s looks and on paper they are perfect for me. FYI, I’ve been building clubs for over 10 years and have a +1 hcp so I’m not totally ignorant. But moderately so in this case. I’d love to know the answer.

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      jmiller065

      12 years ago

      KBS FEELS a lot softer then the Butt Frequency suggests… I play the X-Stiff C-Taper in my 5-P which has a rating of 7.3 they FEEL more like a 6.8 about 0.5 less then what they are but still play over all to the stiffness rating you would expect.

      Brian

      12 years ago

      These look fantastic. I like the fact that they are like AP2’s as far as the guts of the club but look way nicer. More blade like and satin finish. AP2’s are too shiny for me and have the plastic/rubber going on in the cavity. These are cleaner in every aspect. I’m going to get new irons in 2013. New Cally forged, these Adams or the new MP64’s.

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      heath

      12 years ago

      We don’t get to see many Adams Golf clubs here in the UK, not in my part of it anyway, but i have to say they just look stunning. I’d love to own a set, but would be mortified to have to play them and get them dirty… awesome bit of kit.

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      Chris Robinson

      12 years ago

      Damn you Mygolfspy, you’ve done it again. Such teases with your great reviews. Unfortunately Direct Golf and American Golf are the only stockists for Adams here in the UK but there are a few decent pro shops that will do fittings if you are nearby. Even at £699 they look a good buy with C Taper shafts. Very very tempting, even to a man who is generally happy with his AP2 712’s.

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      P-Gunna

      12 years ago

      This is my dream iron set, I have been a huge Adams fan for years now and this iron epitomizes everything I love about the company. I will have a set soon, and I would comfortably buy a set without testing them because I believe in the company that much.

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      Super Tuna

      12 years ago

      I agree entirely with the review T except for one thing. I know you love your CB501’s but if someone offered me the choice between a custom set of either, I’d take the CMB’s hands down. I’m nuts, I know.

      I also find interesting that your testing has held up what I’ve seen from people in that missing right is generally more common. I suspect that’s because it’s a straight in C Taper Stiff which is far more stiff then most people expect from a “stiff shaft”. For example it’s a S300 hard stepped twice or a PX 5.5 hard stepped once. That’s way, way to stiff for most guys.

      My only wish is that Adams offered the R+ model here instead of just R, S and X but I can see why they wouldn’t.

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      J

      12 years ago

      I have used X100 in the past but have had the Ping ANSER x-flex steel shafts in a set of S59s for a few years now. Sounds like you have some detailed knowledge of the KBS shafts (I have never hit). Any thoughts on how these two shafts would compare to the KBS?

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      RP Jacobs II

      12 years ago

      Excellent review T…A nice option for the MP-59 niche…Only hit a few on the range, though I’m gonna take ’em out next week to see how they play..

      Again, nice write-up….

      Fairways & Greens 4ever…..

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      wdgolf

      12 years ago

      You can buy a used set of these for pretty cheap off ebay. No idea if they’re counterfeits or not. I’m going to have to try them out next time I’m in Golf Town, if nothing else so I can give the C-Tapers a try.

      Great review as always T.

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