Angel Ilagan Out as CEO of Bridgestone Golf. More Changes Coming?
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Angel Ilagan Out as CEO of Bridgestone Golf. More Changes Coming?

Angel Ilagan Out as CEO of Bridgestone Golf. More Changes Coming?

It appears some things are starting to hit the fan down in Georgia. MyGolfSpy has learned that Bridgestone Golf CEO Angel Ilagan has been dismissed from his position. In addition, we hear other changes may be forthcoming as Bridgestone’s bread and butter ball business has lost market share this year, falling to 4th place (behind TaylorMade) in ball sales.

Bridgestone announced the move in a prepared statement last evening:

“Bridgestone Golf and its President and Chief Executive Officer, Angel Ilagan, have made a mutual decision to part ways. The company greatly appreciates the energy he put into leading Bridgestone Golf over the past two years, and wishes him well in future endeavors. An immediate search is underway to identify a new leader who will help carry Bridgestone Golf’s recent momentum forward.”

In corporate speak, a mutual decision to part ways, especially without a permanent successor in place, suggests an upper management team less than enamored with recent North American performance and an immediate need to change leadership and direction. It’s a polite way of saying you’re fired.

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Dropping to 4th in balls, despite Tiger’s early season performance, can’t be sugar-coated.

Ilagan has been Bridgestone’s head man since 2016. He brought Tiger into the fold in December of that year and has also signed Lexi Thompson and Bryson DeChambeau to ball deals. Ilagan has been a vocal supporter of rolling back golf ball performance, at least on the professional level, making Bridgestone the only ball company we’re aware of in favor of a rollback. Earlier this year, Bridgestone reported 2017 as a record-setting year for both balls sales and profits, although industry insiders have countered that while Bridgestone may have, in fact, set a record for actual balls sold, those balls were sold at heavy discounts, meaning actual dollar sales were down and the company, in fact, lost money.

Likewise, Bridgestone’s golf equipment business has remained non-existent during Ilagan’s tenure. The two-year-old premium Tour B line, originally sold exclusively through fitters, is now being sold on the company’s website. Bridgestone has also introduced several limited edition clubs for sale online only, including a forged driving iron and a premium priced boxed set – an idea that’s been met with both eye rolls and skepticism. Bridgestone remains firmly in the Other category when it comes to equipment market share.

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What Does It Mean?

Changes at the top are sometimes planned, but when sales, profitability, and bread and butter market share are all trending downward, the corporate sphincter tends to tighten. When those trends continue, changes are inevitable. Given the current climate, Ilagan’s ouster may not be surprising, but making such a move without a replacement ready is, at the very least, curious. Bridgestone bills itself as a golf ball company first and foremost, so losing ground to TaylorMade had to be particularly galling.

In reality, golf ball sales are all about reach and marketing. Titleist, of course, leads the league in reach. It’s the #1 Ball in Golf, has extensive tour staff and a death grip on pro shop sales. Callaway backs its Chrome Soft franchise with top-notch marketing that’s helped fuel its rise to number two in market share. It’s still a distant second, but Callaway continues to grow while Titleist’s overall market share has dropped below 50%. TaylorMade has elbowed its way into the 3rd position with a decent combination of both reach and marketing prowess.

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Bridgestone? It certainly has ball street cred,  but it can’t claim the same level of industry reach as Titliest, whose stranglehold on green grass makes life difficult for everyone else. And unlike its three key competitors (and challenger brands like Wilson Staff and Srixon), Bridgestone doesn’t have strong equipment sales or promotion to buoy its ball sales. Despite using Tiger this season, and spending on advertising and on select Tour staff, Bridgestone’s needle is moving in the wrong direction.

Bridgestone’s market share drop also brings into further question Tiger’s ability to driver equipment sales in any meaningful way. We know Tiger sells shoes and apparel, but the Nike experiment shows the man who is arguably the world’s most recognizable athlete may do little to sell hard goods. Despite Tiger’s strong early season, the You’re Back There ad campaign may be the most ironic in recent memory.

Where Does Bridgestone Go Now?

If the rumblings are correct, Ilagan’s ouster may be the first move in an overall Bridgestone reboot. Globally, Bridgestone is a $32-billion-dollar behemoth, and is a major player in the Asian golf market. Struggles in the UK prompted a withdrawal from that market several years ago (Bridgestone is only now re-entering the UK), and while a similar withdrawal from the North American ball market is highly unlikely, getting out of the equipment business wouldn’t come as a surprise. Bridgestone’s golf club market share is negligible and despite considerable effort over the past two years,  the company hasn’t demonstrated an ability to improve its position through either product innovation or effective marketing.

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Bridgestone made its bones in the ball business via its extensive ball fitting program. While you can argue whether ball fitting with a driver is ideal way to determine which ball is for you, you can’t argue with the program’s effectiveness. For years it was the only ball-fitting game in town and it’s important to note that, as Bridgestone’s market share has dropped, we’ve also seen fewer actual live Bridgestone ball fittings in the real world. That can’t be a coincidence.

Bridgestone’s current position serves as an interesting business lesson. There are some very talented people working at Bridgestone, and the company makes exceptional golf balls and quality forged irons. But for whatever reason, the formula in North America isn’t working. Offering good products is one thing, but without effective marketing and distribution strategies it doesn’t really matter how good your stuff is; you’re going to struggle.

We get that the kneejerk reaction out there will be Bridgestone should simply cut prices – that way they’ll sell more. Well, that’s essentially what the company did last year with its extensive Buy 2, Get 1 Free promotion – it moved a lot of golf balls, which is important. Smart Business 101, however, says moving fewer golf balls profitably beats moving more golf balls unprofitably every day of the week.

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It will be fascinating to watch how Bridgestone navigates its way through the second half of 2018 and beyond, and to see what kinds of additional changes, if any, are coming. We do know that Bridgestone Sports Senior Officer and Bridgestone Golf Chairman Shigeru Nakayama will return to Covington to serve as Acting President/CEO while the company looks for a permanent replacement. Whoever is chosen will have a tall task in front of them.

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      Bubba Daley

      5 years ago

      I am surprised this CEO is gone. He told some that he has played Augusta National 100+ times, personally turned Monsanto around, beat Phil Mickleson out of $40000 among other items told to some.

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      JOEL GOODMAN

      6 years ago

      WANNA HEAR A FUNNY STORY? I AM 82 YEARS OLD, USGA INDEX 8.0 PLAY 5 DAYS A WEEK. LIVE ON A GOLF COURSE IN FLORIDA AND HAVE NOT PURCHASED A BALL IN 15 YEARS.
      I PLAY WHATEVER I PICK UP IN MY YARD. WHEN I HAVE COMPARED SCORES, DRIVING DISTANCE ETC BETWEEN VARIOUS BALLS, I REALISE THAT THE DIFFERENCE IN BALLS IS THE ADVERTISING AND THE GRAPHICS. UNLESS YOU ARE A TOUR LEVEL PLAYER–THEY’RE ALL THE SAME. SO BUY WHATEVER IS CHEAP AND LOOK FOR DEALS.

      Reply

      Tom Catania

      6 years ago

      No mention of the best driver made in recent years, The JGR. Out 2 years and Truly blows away everything on your most wanted list! Dare you to test it!

      Reply

      John Anton

      6 years ago

      If Bridgestone brass back in Japan could actually give authority to their North American division, you actually might see a change. Until they loosen their reigns and let a true American marketeer who understands the US retailer experience lead, the needle will never move.

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      NH Golfer

      6 years ago

      That may very well be true however Nike is considered to be a “true American marketer” and Tiger still did very little to move any equipment for them.

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      nef

      6 years ago

      I played Bridgestone golf balls for many years as a great alternative to pricier Titleist balls. Then they started “innovating” and offering multiple flavors with little to differentiate one from the other. The price stayed constant or rose while other companies decided to market a narrow selection of balls that fit distinctive types of players at relative bargain prices. Today, the Bridgestone ball doesn’t seem to have the same feel or quality and has multiple versions of what is essentially the same ball. The difference between them – none for the average golfer. They don’t have the panache to attract the ego based golfer who just has to play Pro Vs and have convinced themselves there is a significant performance difference even though objective testing shows it is mostly self-delusion. With the competition from mid-price quality balls, why buy Bridgestone. Virtually every one of those competitors produces equivalent results at a significant saving. Paying for a former great player’s endorsement was a waste of money. It raised the price of the ball without any ability to deliver the group of golfers who truly think playing the same ball as a once great player will make them better by osmosis or by imitation in equipment. Bridgestone lost its focus and failed to stick to a narrow selection of premium balls at a reasonable price.

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      mackdaddy

      6 years ago

      I played the B330 S or RX form the time the first came out. They were a super responsive premium ball and I was getting them for $30 a dozen. When the Chrome Soft came out I decided to give it a try because Bridgestones had gone up to $40 a dozen and the Chrome Softs were $30 a dozen. I still have a few dozen Chrome Softs but when they are gone I will test the Srixon Q Star, Snell MTB and see what shakes out. The B rx feels great and play long and soft but for $40+ I doubt I would pick it over a $30 premium!

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      JB

      6 years ago

      I’d have to agree. I moved away from Bridgestone golf balls because of the price. I would buy them up at $30 a dozen and could justify spending that much on a ball because they were basically a ProV1 with B logo on the side lol. With the $40 price tag I’m back to shopping for $20 to $25 dollar balls because no other $30 ball compared to the Bridgestone at that price. Even the e6 which I’m totally cool playing with are $35 a dozen, which is still more than I was paying for the 330S.

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      dcorun

      6 years ago

      Not everyone can afford $50 a dz golf balls. If I can buy a dz for $30 that are as good, then that’s what you have to do. Anyway, after buying that $500 driver, there’s not much left for golf balls.

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      daveh

      6 years ago

      J40 woods/hybrids/irons were awesome..in fact i still play J40 hybrid. Bridgestone balls, not the best in terms of cost or performance, but decent. The weird thing is that the company is HQ’ed in Covington GA and you can hardly find any demos clubs at any metro Atlanta area golf sales stores..PGA superstore quit carrying B clubs some time ago. How is one supposed to figure out their product(s)_. I would not be surprised if the company folded and focused strictly on tire indiustry. The marketing golf group at B’stone is non existent.

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      Eddie

      6 years ago

      I had a Bridgestone driver years ago. It was a great driver. I often wondered if Bridgestone still made golf clubs, but I never saw them advertised or on display at the golf shops I visited so I forgot about them. I did like that driver though.

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      fore59

      6 years ago

      I work in a golf shop and can play any ball I want.
      We sell PV1’s and PV1X’s logo over runs $33.99 a dozen you can’t beat that.
      fairways & greens

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      Doug

      6 years ago

      This kind of doesn’t shock me, but its good that Bridgestone has acknowledged the bleeding quickly enough (hopefully). Between the online purchase only driving iron gimmick, and the roll-out pricey set for everyone-but-no one, it seems that they weren’t in touch with the market at all. Golfers in the know are familiar with them, but the high-priced beginner and intermediate buyers, who I think they were honestly going after, don’t see anything but “tires”.

      I don’t see them breaking open the American market the way they’re going about it. Being very serious, I really think if they want to get American market share and deke the big dogs, they need to get in with Target (yes, Target), move away from the premium price point, and grab at that buyer, because with the right tact and the right price, they can create a hardlined buyer base the way Apple did by flooding the public school system with their computers. Target is a haven for fairly exclusive offerings on boutique brands, and getting a lesser-known brand noticed. The average buyer has money to spend, and is swayed by special offers… everything Bridgestone was trying to do with their recent online packages, but essentially selling to all the wrong crowd.

      Speaking of which, I buy balls from Target because I get a tiny discount (5%), it’s easily available, and they sell a surprisingly good variety of top tier brands, and I did happen to buy a box of Bridgestone B330 RX’s, and they were OK, but I’d say I like Chromesofts better for about the same price and what I think is better wedge play for me!

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      J Dizzell

      6 years ago

      Maybe they should get ALL of their products in Big Box retailers so people could actually hit the clubs. I for one would buy their irons if I could demo them and custom order to my spec’s. The golf balls are good, but raising prices with no real world benefit is plain dumb
      Whoever their marketing manager is should be fired as well, basically non existent.

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      Dan Z

      6 years ago

      The Tour B balls are great. I’ve bought a box of each, played them a while, liked all of them except the X, then switched to something else. They’re just not a different enough product to keep my attention. They’re the beige of tour balls.

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      TopPakRat

      6 years ago

      IT’S ALL IN THE NAME!!!!!!
      When I hear Titleist I think of golf clubs and golf balls.
      When I hear Callaway I think of golf clubs and golf balls.
      When I hear Taylor Made I think of golf clubs and golf balls.

      When I hear BRIDGESTONE I think of tires!

      Marketing 101. Why in the world would you spend millions of dollars in promoting a tire company and then name a high end golf company Bridgestone. I can see myself now telling my golfing companions that I just can’t wait to hit my Firestone irons.
      Change the name!

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      Matt

      6 years ago

      Like…I don’t know….TOURSTAGE maybe !?!

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      Doug

      6 years ago

      Toppakrat, I hear you!!

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      Regis

      6 years ago

      You could also recognize that Firestone CC was a regular PGA tour stop and hosted the PGA Championship three times (once won by Jack Nicklaus and once by Tiger Woods) or that it hosted the WGC Bridgestone Championship. Oh look at that the WGC Bridgestone Championship a WGC event. Why that’s a limited field event isn’t it? Close to a major?. I wonder where it will be held this year? Say Wha ?-at the Firestone Country Club? Wow! I know absolutely everything about golf. Just ask me. But when I hear Firestone I think of Tires. I can’t wait to tell my golfing companions because they realize I know everything about golf because I play Titleist clubs and Callaway balls

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      JB

      6 years ago

      That would be because Bridgestone bought Firestone way back in the day. Firestone tires are basically the lesser value of a Bridgestone equivalent tire…

      JB

      6 years ago

      You do know they are the same company right? Bridgestone is a diverse company that is at the heart a tire company. However; they are also a golf company.

      That shouldn’t make any difference on what is in their name…The obvious counter argument is when I think of NIKE I think of shoes…but they did well when Tiger was on scene.

      There is also Ping…Makes me think of a simple computer command to see if I have an internet connection…Try selling that brand to computer nerds lol.

      Mizuno you think of baseball in the states, especially if you’ve never played golf before.

      Wilson you think of football because well NFL lol.

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      Regis

      6 years ago

      I am well aware of the Bridgestone/Firestone history.in large part because I remember watching “the Firestone” on TV long before I could drive. I’ve had my car serviced at the Firestone up the street for most of my life. It’s been there so long that in the old days i it used to have a bar in the front so you could have a beer while waiting for your car to be serviced. I just put Bridgestone tires on my Jeep. Bridgestone/Firestone is historically a rubber company and Golf balls are made of……?. Point is that there are a lot of companies that have a long history with golf. Like watching the Firestone on Shell’s Wonderful World of Golf

      Viper

      6 years ago

      You could put Lee Iacocca, Jack Welsh, PT Barnum or I hazzard to say -JC- and i dont mean Jeremy Clarkson, nothing will change. These companies better get used to declining sales! Golf leadership are a bunch of fucking idiots! Coming next year, the Houston Mattress Open….Can u tell I work in the golf industry?

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      Gorden

      6 years ago

      It has been made very clear by so many “ON LINE” golf ball sellers that golf balls simply do not cost $50 a dozen no matter how good they are. The only reason anyone plays top name OEM balls is because they want to have the ball the Pro uses, when it is so clear you are paying at least 25% more a dozen to pay that Pro to use the ball you are using….in other words you could grab say a Snell golf ball walk up to a pro and say here is $15 could you play a hole with my ball…..

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      bob

      6 years ago

      I think the Srixon Z Star lineup is the best but I don’t mind them being on sale for $29.99 all the time. Used to play Precepts, loved them. Bridgestone does make some nice irons but if you don’t blow the same amount of smoke as Callaway, TaylorMade and Titleist it is hard to get players to even look at them.

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      Plaidjacket

      6 years ago

      I don’t have a dog in this game. Honestly, balls are a commodity. Too many chasing the same dollar. There are a ton of very good balls available today for way less money than any of the top dogs charge. Snell, MG, Kirkland, Vice, etc. As far as I’m concerned let there be Titleist PV1’s for people who like to spend $50 for balls and think their awesome game demands they play the most expensive ball. For the rest of us there are the MG’s and Snells of the world. For Bridgestone and others like them… do yourselves a favor and get out of the ball business.

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      Max

      6 years ago

      I play the B330 S and am a golf gear nerd/junky and I had no idea that they came out with a new line of balls = their marketing is not good.

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      Todd Tschantz

      6 years ago

      As club fitters, we were “requested” to have Bridgestone available for club fitting due to our location being a Freddy Couples Signature Design. They were in our shop for three years. Bridgestone had no commitment to fitting and the Customer service was pitiful at best. The few orders we did place often took 5-8 weeks to produce.

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      Max

      6 years ago

      Yep, their iron heads were perpetually on backorder. I put an order in with them for J40 irons. Six week minimum backorder so I canceled and bought something else.

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      Andy A.

      6 years ago

      Bridgestone makes awesome clubs, but I always thought they should have moved the Japanese name, “Tourstage,” name over instead of keeping “Bridgestone. “Tourstage made some awesome equipment, and balls. Bridgestone is also good stuff but I associate Tourstage with premium stuff. I would put Tourstage up against any other club maker. The stuff just looks like it’s fun to hit.

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      Tom Pressley

      6 years ago

      I used the e6 for a couple of years, but they did not seem the same last year. Started playing the B330. Paying more for what seems to be the old e6. Have always liked their products, have a Bridgestone Golf Bag i got at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway. Hope they turn it around in their golf ball business.

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      Fred Bluhm

      6 years ago

      Meanwhile, Dean Snell and Co., keep plugging along and, in my opinion, still make the best all around ball on the market with their MyTourBall.

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      Bullwinkle J Moose

      6 years ago

      I agree the Snell ball performance is second to none, and their 6 dozen deal is the best price on a true premium ball anywhere.

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      Pete

      6 years ago

      I too switched to the Snell Get Sum balls and will continue to use them. Their prices are unbelievably good as well. IMHO, cannot be beaten for value!

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      DaveyD

      6 years ago

      I love Bridgestone golf balls, but the recent change to the new R-series balls didn’t bring anything to the table for me. Certainly nothing revolutionary or even evolutionary, except maybe for the packaging. I’m buying the older R-series on sale and getting the same performance as with the newer balls. Their change appears to be nothing more than change for the sake of change.

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      Regis

      6 years ago

      I MHO nobody is going to make major inroads in golf ball sales at least in terms of profitability. There are too many great golf balls on the market. I personally love the Bridgestone 330 RXS. It’s my tournament ball. The Taylor made Tour Preferred and Project A are right there as well. Throw in Wilson especially when on sale. I currently have perhaps 30 dozen golf balls that fit my game in my garage. All bought on sale. I never look for a lost ball. But guys in my club pride themselves on their ball Hawking so on forced carry water holes I use Titleists
      They don’t fit my game and it drives the ball Hawks behind me into a frenzy.

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      Kenny B

      6 years ago

      I would not be surprised if Bridgestone dropped out of the club market all together. A year ago they dropped their “testdrive” program where we could test their clubs for a nominal fee and then ship them back. Bridgestone had very limited locations for clubs at stores, and it was a way for us to give them a try. Now we can’t even do that apparently. I’m not buying clubs that I can’t even see beforehand.

      A year ago I did have the opportunity to try the JGR line of clubs and ended up buying the driver and their forged hybrid irons. They are quality cubs, but it sounds like they may be going the way of my beloved Macgregors.

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      cullen davis

      6 years ago

      as a Bridgestone dealer i can honestly say that bridgestone makes the best balls and clubs on the market. Not saying this just because im a dealer, played titleist for over 20 years and switched to bridgestone 9 years ago. The problem i see bridgestone does no market their clubs, more than half the people i have spoken with didnt even know bridgestone made clubs. And another problem i see bridgestone doesn’t even have a putter in their line.

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      KM

      6 years ago

      Ahhh Brigistohneeeee wa karimashta!

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      James

      6 years ago

      What’s funny (well not really funny, more like sad) is that some of the best clubs in the industry – in terms of clubhead design, quality control, shafts used, etc – come from some of the least “popular” brands. I’m talking Mizuno, Srixon, Tour Edge, Bridgestone, Ben Hogan, Henry-Griffitts, etc. These brands tend to be meticulous in their quality control when their heads are manufactured and their clubs are assembled, whereas I see endless off-the-rack sets from Callaway, Ping, TaylorMade which are nowhere near the correct specs. Wrong lenths, wrong lofts, garbage shafts. And they’re able to get away with it because they spent millions upon millions of dollars to promote their name, and this results in people blindly buying their clubs. It’s a damn shame.

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      T ball

      6 years ago

      Couldn’t agree more. A buddy of mine adjusts clubs and he routinely measures lie and loft etc, they are usually wayy off. This hurts an already hurting sport as people feel cheated when they buy what pros play and expect the marketing to be true. Shame is an understatement. Best clubs come from those who teach and can fit to the swing tempo and characteristics and by those companies that hand check everything.

      Spitfisher

      6 years ago

      RX, 330, E5, E6 and all the other bridgestone names tell me as a consumer – nothing I have no idea the ball I just found is 20.00 a dozen for $50 a dozen. There is nothing compelling. I m sure they make good balls.

      Point being these model names are not consumer friendly to understand. It may work with car tires but not with 5-6th tier premium sporting goods.

      Next I don’t know how much they are paying Tiger, I have a feeling its a lot. and they very well may have over spent. The over spending has to be followed up with sales and profits from volume and market share.

      Both likely failed, that why CEO are asked to leave. My guess some marketing and sales people are on notice or have their resumes typed and ready to go.

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      Tebo

      6 years ago

      I couldn’t agree with you more on the model names. Recently, after hearing good things about their golf balls, I walked into a Proshop with the intention of purchasing some. All of those #s, I had no idea which ball to buy. The boxes all day the same thing, with no indication of the type of golfer they suit.

      Normally, I play the ProV1x but wanted a little cheaper alternative. So I decided on a TM P(a). Why can’t Bridgestone keep it simple? I really would like to try them…

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      David Leney

      6 years ago

      As a senior golfer i Have found that the Bridgestone Treo Soft was the perfect combination of softness and distance. It outperformed both the Srixon Soft Feel and the Wilson Staff Duo Soft. Bridgestone discontinued the Treo in 2016 and now I’m reduced to buying used ones online. I know many other senior golfers who tried it and raved about , as well. I wish it was still available.

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      Mike

      6 years ago

      Where do you live? Academy Sports still sells the Treosoft balls.

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      Pkc

      6 years ago

      I think Bridgestone made a big mistake being vocally accepting of rolling back the golf ball over tighten up equipment specs. Why would a customer support a golf ball company that doesn’t stand for new and better but instead stands for old and rolling back the ball. Many years ago I like Bridgestone balls and even precept balls as a junior but I haven’t been enamored by any of their recent products at their current price point. If they were smart they’d hit up woman, juniors and seniors again with precept style balls at reasonable prices.

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      Boyo

      6 years ago

      New and better. Where have I heard that before?

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      KC

      6 years ago

      I gamed Bridgestone’s J40 irons and the J15 equipment, as well. Fantastic gear but it’s practically impossible to find it anywhere for purchase, let alone to demo. I’d love to see them go aggressively after some stronger retail presence in the US and try to grab some sponsorships on the Tour to get their brand out in front of consumers. They make great stuff but if the consumer doesn’t know you’re brand, can’t find it to demo and can’t even find it to purchase then you’ve got a major problem on your hands.

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      Kenny B

      6 years ago

      “… try to grab some sponsorships on the Tour”??

      Let’s see…
      Snedeker, Kuchar, DeChambeau, Lexi, Couple, and… oh yeah, some guy named Tiger.

      I’d say the brand is out in front of consumers, but the consumers are not buying it. Why is that?

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      strokerAce

      6 years ago

      I was at a demo day and Bridgestone was scheduled to be there to do ball fittings since they’d done them at the same event the last 2-3 years, but … no Bridgestone. I asked and they said that’s something they’re not really doing much of any longer. Too bad…I thought it had some value. Yeah – it wasn’t the be all to end all but at least it gave you some guidance.
      If they plan to compete on balls alone I don’t see how they can survive….there’s just too many choices and with the top 3 -Titleist, Callaway, TM- all having top equipment too the margin for success seems razor thin.
      Interested to see how this plays out…

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      BrianP

      6 years ago

      Having followed the company’s offering since Tourstage entered the domestic market, I’m hopeful that the company can find the right leadership to find the right mix to be successful in the US market. Equipment has always been among the best performing and best feeling, particularly their Players irons, but historically not accessible unless you’re willing to try on faith. Their balls perform comparably, but that such a competitive space on performance and price. I just want to see them successful on equipment, again in the Players market.

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      Berniez40

      6 years ago

      Maybe it’s just me, but when I played “Tour Stage” balls many moons ago, “The previous Bridgestone Name” they felt better to me than the re-vamped “Bridgestone” labeled balls. The Tour Stage Balls seemed to feel softer and fly farther (I know we’re all tired of that line) but the Bridgestone’s , at least for a while, seemed a cut above the competition.
      Then one year, something in their formulation went horribly wrong. Does anyone remember the year the B-330-RX just couldn’t keep up in either feel, or distance. By the end of the summer, prices were slashed on that dog, and by Christmas Time everyone was hawking the “Previous Generation B330-RX at massive discoutnts. ” Of course they corrected it with the next year’s model , but I, like many golfers started to doubt my ball because of it. I don’t know anything that can kill a premium priced ball’s market share faster than that. I haven’t played Bridgestone’s since.

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      Rob C

      6 years ago

      Great insight to the sturggles of a company that for years was making quality equipment to go with quality balls in every segment. Will be interesting to see who they choose and what direction it takes the rest of 2018 into 2019

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      David W

      6 years ago

      There is no way that buy 2 get one free at $45 a dozen is no profitable. They have gone up way too far on their B series balls for amateurs. With Snell and Vice selling for $32 and, I believe, $36 respectively for balls that perform very similar, you can’t get away with charging $45 a dozen. I used to buy the B330 RXS exclusively, but I’m not spending that anymore when the Snell MTB red is $32.

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      Steve

      6 years ago

      This is a terrible argument. First, buy 2 get 1 free works out to $30/dozen if the regular price is $45/dozen, so during that promotion Bridgestones were cheaper than Snell or Vice. Second, there are 2 sides to the profitability equation – Revenue and Cost. I’m not knocking Snell or Vice at all by saying this but – Who do you think spends more on advertising, R&D, player sponsorships, and overhead – Bridgestone, Snell, or Vice?

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      Fish

      6 years ago

      Well I think that is exactly the point. Bridgestone does except for R&D pretty sure Dean Snell spends his fair share of cash on that. But the tour contacts I would bet are probably the reason that those premium tour balls are so expensive. I get your argument on the 30/dozen but if you took the stamps off all the golf balls found out that a 2.50 ball performed as well as a 4-5 dollar ball which one are you going to tee up?

      David W

      6 years ago

      You may have a point, but I have a question. Does adding a layer or 2 really cost twice as much as a one or two piece ball you can buy for $20? Maybe it does, and maybe it’s the material, I don’t know, but it sure seems like the same ball has gone up way up over the last 4 or 5 years.

      Boyo

      6 years ago

      I recently stole 6 Dozen new B X balls on eBay for $160 shipped. You can get some right now for $180 shipped, $30 a dozen.

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      Mark

      6 years ago

      Lets not forget, snell, vice, and other direct to consumers knock out the middle man like me. To say any company is gouging you for a ball that can be sold for 30 is a stupid argument anyway. We pay 37 for a dozen pro v1 and sell to you for 47.99, Snell and vice make all the profit when they sell direct to consumer. I get such a kick out of all the vice/snell lovers blasting major manufacturers. They sell through my shop, this helps me stay in business so hackers can come in and beat up drivers before they buy. If they sell to consumers it is for the same price I charge because we are partners, vice and snell are just as greedy as everyone else, probably more because they don’t have the cost of huge R and D or sales reps and dont sell through a middle man.

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      10shot

      6 years ago

      Well Said !!!

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