ULTIMATE REVIEW! – Cleveland Mashie Hybrid
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ULTIMATE REVIEW! – Cleveland Mashie Hybrid

ULTIMATE REVIEW! – Cleveland Mashie Hybrid

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Cleveland Mashie Hybrid Review

(Written By: GolfSpy_T) It’s been quite a while since we reviewed anything from Cleveland (or Srixon for that matter).  As you may recall, we really liked the Srixon Z-TX driver, but were simply luke warm on last year’s Launcher driver.  For 2011 Cleveland has released what I think is very solid lineup.  Their wedges will always do well with consumers, and their new one size (or weight as the case may be) does-not-fit-all approach to driver design has the potential to actually benefit real golfers of all ability levels.  It’s also has to be mentioned that the rebirth of Cleveland’s Never Compromise lineup of putters has been nothing less than a complete transformation from simple, no-frills putters to a visually stunning lineup, that in our assessment, belongs in the types of conversations that include names like Cameron and Bettinardi.

Admittedly we’ve been a little light on hybrid reviews over the last couple of years, which is why we, for now anyway, have decided to look past the drivers and wedges, and take a closer look at the new Cleveland hybrids.   I like that Cleveland was willing to take a chance on what I believe is the most practical paint scheme any manufacturer has implemented to date.  As a bit of a shaft ho myself, I also couldn’t help but be excited about the Miyazaki C. Kua shaft that comes stock in the the Mashie hybrid.   Before we get to the review itself, let’s quickly run down the stuff that Cleveland wants us to know about the Mashie.

The Marketing Angle

I touched briefly already on the paint (which Cleveland calls RETRO-RAW™), and I’ll have more to say about it when we talk about the looks of the club, but I think functional is probably the right word.  Other features include a dual-rail design with a subtle center keel, which is designed to improve versatility and help get you out of the deeper stuff.  As I’ve already mentioned, the Mashie comes stock with ultralight (59 gram) Miyazaki C. Kua shaft (yes, it’s a “real” C. Kua), which Cleveland claims can create 5-10 yards of additional distance through higher head speeds (up to 3 Mph).  Heavier shafts are available through Cleveland’s custom department.  Though it’s not really a feature, or even something that Cleveland is actively marketing, traditionalists will no doubt love the knit headcover which works really well with the old-school paint scheme.


Lefties hoping for 1-iron (fairway wood) or 5-iron replacements appear to be out of luck.

How We Tested

The 6 golfers for whom we collected detailed performance data were asked to hit a series of shots on our 3Track Equipped simulators from aboutGolf.  As usual, testing was done at Tark’s Indoor Golf, a state of the art indoor golf facility located in Saratoga Springs, NY.  Detailed data for each and every shot for which we collected data is now viewable in the interactive portion of this review.  This data serves as the foundation for our final performance score.  As a supplement to our 6 performance testers, a subset of additional golfers were given the opportunity to test the Cleveland Mashie hybrids and provide feedback in our subjective categories (looks, feel, perceived distance, perceived accuracy, perceived forgiveness, and likelihood of purchase).  This information, which we also collected from our performance testers, is used as the foundation for our total subjective score.  Although several rounds were played with19°, 21°, and 24° degree hybrids in our testers bags, formal testing for the purpose of data collection was done with the 21° hybrid in the tester’s choice of regular or stiff flex.

PERFORMANCE SCORING

Distance

If distance is the determining factor in your purchase decision, you certainly shouldn’t be ruling out the Cleveland Mashie hybrid. 5 of our 6 performance testers put up scores in the 90s (the 6th was in the mid 80s).  Our testers as group averaged just over 211 yards with the Mashie hybrid.  As he always is, Dan was on the long end with an average total distance of 251 yards.  Blake, who generally hits a 3 hybrid around 200 yards, struggled mightily with the Mashie averaging just under 170 yards.  The other guys averaged a combined average of just under 210 yards, which, while not quite as long as the Titleist 910h, is still very, very solid.

MGS Distance Score: 93.96

Accuracy

As you’ll see in the subjective section, our testers don’t believe the Mashie Hybrid is as accurate as some other hybrids they’ve tried (including the ones in their bags).  Our numbers largely support those opinions as our testers missed the center line by an adjusted average of over 18.5 yards.  To put that in its proper context, it’s very similar to the group average miss for the drivers we tested this season.  During our tests I proved to be the most accurate with the Mashie; missing by an adjusted average of just under 12 yards.  Our lowest handicap testers (Nick and Dan) actually posted the lowest accuracy scores.  Both mentioned the offset, but whatever the reason, neither those two guys, nor Blake and Mark found the Mashie particularly accurate.

When you view the interactive shot by shot charts, you’ll notice that the majority of misses were to the left, but more telling still is the relatively high number of shots that missed the center line by more than 30 yards.  For a club that often is use to hit a green from long distances, the raw averages are somewhat discouraging.

When we convert those averages to out of 100 scores we get two scores in the high 80s, two in the low 80s, and 2 in the mid 70s.  The total adds up to a number that is mediocre at best.

MGS Accuracy Score: 82.40

Consistency

Things look a bit better when we plugged the data into our consistency formula.  Though we’ve seen scores in the high 90s, scores in the low 90s are still pretty good, and that’s largely what we found with the Mashie hybrid.  While my number with the Mashie hybrid was the highest I’ve posted with any club to date (97+), the majority of the scores were in the low 90s, with Tim posting the lowest consistency score with an 82.6.  Overall, however; the numbers suggest that while not the most consistent we’ve tested to date, the Mashie produces relatively consistent results from swing to swing.

MGS Consistency Score: 91.74

Overall Performance

If there’s a black-eye for this gray club it’s the accuracy.  As we noted, nearly all of our testers quite simply struggled to hit the ball straight – and the Mashie produced some of the biggest misses we’ve seen to date with any club we’ve tested (including drivers).  Accuracy aside, however, the distance numbers were good (we think it goes as far as it needs to), and though not exceptional, the consistency scores were relatively solid.  If, unlike our testers, you’re able to consistently hit the Mashie hybrid straight, everything else we saw suggests the club will be a strong performer for you.

MGS OVERALL PERFORMANCE SCORE: 87.96


SUBJECTIVE SCORING

Let’s face it, Cleveland, despite years of producing clubs good enough to fill every slot in the bag, is still known largely as a wedge company.  Dollars to doughnuts, you give me any Cleveland wedge to put through our testing process and the subjective numbers are going to be high.  Give me anything else the company makes, and it’s basically a roll of the dice.

In a perfect world all preconceived notions for every club and every manufacturer would get checked at the door , but the reality is that a company like Cleveland isn’t going to get what amount to little more than points for just showing up like a TaylorMade or Titleist would.  Is it completely fair?  Probably not.  But, on those occasions when a smaller company can post a subjective score that rivals the true titans of the industry, we know we’ve really got something golfers are going to love.  This, unfortunately, is most definitely not one of those occasions.

Looks

Visually, there are two things that our testers repeatedly commented on.  The first was the offset of the Mashie Hybrid’s head.  Offset is always a point of curiosity for me, as so often our testers tell us how much they disapprove of it.  It doesn’t matter if it’s a driver, fairway wood, or another hybrid; if it’s offset, our testers don’t like it.  Of course, a fair amount of the time, our testers are complaining about offset at the same time they’re spinning the balls off to the right.  In the case of the Mashie hybrid, however; it would appear the displeasure may be justified, as the majority of the big misses went left.

The second point of conversation was the RETRO-RAW™ finish.  Cleveland calls it a throw-back, most everyone else calls it gray.  While some said they liked it, not everyone was a huge fan.  The gray paint, I believe, was probably the reason for a couple of very low scores (a 3 and a 5).  Though I can’t say I love it, pragmatically, I couldn’t give it less than an 8.

If last year was the year of the wedge, 2011 simply has to be the year of paint. While some think white looks great, as our friends at Callaway showed us, it can lead to some pronounced shadowing on the clubhead.  Black, of course, has worked for decades, but our friends at TaylorMade helped us all to learn how distracting the glare from a black head can be. Gray solves both those problems.  No glare, no shadows, no distractions.  Yeah, it doesn’t look as sleek as a black, and it won’t grab attention like white, but if the purpose is to eliminate distractions, then the paint on the Cleveland Mashie is perfect.   Just my personal opinion here, but if another company had done the same thing, almost everyone would be talking about how awesome the new gray clubs are.

When we tallied the scores, the 7s, 8s, and single 9 weren’t enough to offset the lower than average ratings, which accounts for what is a relatively low total looks score.

MGS Looks Score: 75.25

Feel

Apart from performance, feel is the single biggest influencer of what finds its way into my bag.  So even if I’m not a huge fan of the looks I’ll bag a club if it performs well, and feels great.  I was optimistic the Mashie might do just that. While most of our testers agreed that the Mashie feels very good to excellent on near-perfectly struck balls, when you stray a bit from the center of the face, things change dramatically. On most anything other than their very best shots, our testers were less than enthused about the feel produced by the Mashie hybrid.  Dull and dead were the words we heard most often to describe what accounted for the majority of the shots our testers hit. While 3 testers rated the club an 8, many went lower (as low as 4) in their assessment.  In my estimation it’s a relatively fine line between providing feedback and simply not producing good feel.  The consensus among our testers was that the Mashie hybrid strays to the latter.

MGS Feel Score: 67.19

Perceived Distance

Almost to a man, our testers used one word to describe the distance of the Cleveland Mashie Hybrid: Average.  We heard it again, and again, and again.  While a single testers rated the club a 9 and described it as among the longest he’s ever hit, almost everyone else rated the club a 7 or an 8.  There was a 3 on the low end from a tester who struggled to reach a distance anything close to where he normally hits a 21° degree club, but overall average ruled the day.  Our numbers suggest it deserves better, but testers think what testers think, which is in part why you should never by a club before you know exactly how far it really goes.

Tester Perceived Distance Score: 83.31

Perceived Accuracy

Maybe you can blame the offset (I don’t).  Maybe it’s the ultralight shaft (a stretch).  Whatever the reason, our testers as a group showed a tremendous bias towards the left side of the fairway.  A few of our testers mentioned that no matter how much they tried to adjust, they simply couldn’t keep the club from going left.  Even the guys who consistently miss to the right, were consistently left with the Mashie Hybrid.  Save a few shots down the middle, our testers simply didn’t feel the accuracy is what is should be.

Tester Perceived Accuracy Score: 61.89

Perceived Forgiveness

In what is admittedly a bit of anomaly in our scoring, our testers told us they thought the Cleveland Mashie was more forgiving than it was accurate.  That tells me that they think it performs reasonably well when the ball isn’t struck perfectly.  That said, the scores (which ranged from 4 to 8) are far from the levels we’ve seen with other clubs, and certainly don’t indicate that any of our testers believe the Mashie Hybrid to be an incredibly forgiving golf club.

Our admittedly limited hybrid tests have so far suggested that golfers believe that hybrids in general are the least forgiving clubs in the bag.  While the total score isn’t impressive in the big picture, it has to be pointed out that it’s only marginally worse than the Titleist 910h we reviewed last month.

Tester Perceived Forgiveness Score: 72.56

Likelihood of Purchase

Not  a single tester fell in love with the Mashie Hybrid to the extent that they actually put one in their bag. One tester who rated it an 8 in this category told us he’d bag it “if it were a gift”, but otherwise he’d “put it right back in the rack”.  That seems to sum up the thinking of our testing pool as  a whole as the majority rated the likelihood that they would actually purchase a Mashie hybrid in the 5 to 6 range, which, needless to say, is below average for the clubs we’ve tested this season.

Tester Likelihood of Purchase: 61.81

If you’re still reading at this point, you can probably guess where this is going.  With that in mind, I’m not going to waste your time by trying to sugar coat anything.  For nothing other than perceived distance did the Cleveland Mashie hybrid obtain a B-level score with our testers.  For everything else we survey the scored ranged from a low D to a mid C.  None of this proves that Cleveland’s Mashie hybrid is a bad club, but it makes it plenty clear to us that, across the board, our pool of testers simply didn’t like it.

TOTAL SUBJECTIVE SCORE: 71.49

CONCLUSION

It’s always tough as reviewer and tester when a review shakes out the way this one did.  The results of our tests indicate that the Cleveland Mashie performed fairly well for our testers. We certainly can’t find fault in the distance numbers, although, as we noted, the accuracy scores need to be higher for it to be considered as one of the select few truly great clubs we see over the course of a golf season.

The thing is, performance aside, nothing about the Cleveland Mashie really resonated with out testers either.  You could argue that the Miyazaki C. Kua is one of the top shafts available as a stock option for any hybrid today- and you’d probably be right, but it didn’t make enough of a difference as far as our testers are concerned.  You could argue that the RETRO-RAW™ finish is the most practical on the market today.  I’d probably agree with you, but it’s not pretty, and seems our testers don’t want to be stuck between black and white.

In the end, solid distance numbers can’t overcome suspect accuracy, what our testers tell us is sub-par feel, and an almost total lack of enthusiasm for the club.  None of our testers would tell you they love the Cleveland Mashie, and most would tell you they don’t hate it.  The reality is that nearly everyone who tested the Cleveland Mashie hybrid, myself included, came away feeling completely indifferent about it, and that’s clearly reflected in the overall score.

MGS TOTAL SCORE: 86.31


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      John Schwerdt

      7 years ago

      I had a 20.5* in the bag for several years, eventually switched it out for a standard 3i. Although I loved hittingpar 5’s in 2 with it, and having a great, consistent, club off the tee, you can’t work it. The performance is phenomenal, and the look is very comfortable to look at, great if you love consistent ball flight. As soon as I scrapped the Mashie 3h I took out my 5 wood and, because I was so fond of my original Mashie, replaced it with an 18* tour Mashie. Same overall design, more consolidated and symmetrical head shape (less bow behind toe) and maybe a degree or two of offset. Plays similarly to the standard Mashie, equally as forgiving (which is A LOT) and fun to hit but provides you the opportunity to work the ball with a little more authority.

      I pair that with a Launcher ultralite 3w and Classic 310 driver, with the stock Miyazakis, it’s a hell of a combo. I’ve always been a Cleveland loyalist, and I’m regards to the potential “snobs” to companies being biased in testing Cleveland clubs I just can’t help but feel bad for not understanding what a value and good play Cleveland’s sticks are.

      More for us I guess!!

      #bringthefulllineback

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      dan williamson

      9 years ago

      would like to buy a cleveland mashie n4 an n5 hybrid golf clubs reg flex

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      rexn

      9 years ago

      Having read the review, I had pretty much decided against buying one. Having tried one, I now have 3. Reliability is the key to living with these. Having found the 18 degree so reliable but long, it effectively replaces my Nike 3 wood, the 15 degree replaces my driver which means that I now have a shiney new driver too that has increased my distance. The 20.5 degree now fills the gap between my irons and 18 degree. Apart from a lowish flight on the 15 degree, these are great clubs to have in the bag.

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      Timbok

      10 years ago

      I play with the mashie 1 and it’s my best club 200 metres every time and goes what ever way I want. If there is a hybrid that goes longer and straighter let me know andI will try it. All my other clubs are titleist except for the one mashie

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      Pasi

      11 years ago

      I just po’d before mid-simmer those hybrids, mashie #1, #2 and #3 and replaced my old Taylormade V-Steel #3. #5 and #7 as Mashies eguals the slopes / angles !
      I ‘m pretty happy, I ge tbetter control on ball, hit better and accurecy.
      And what is the most imprtant, Mashies are retros, they feel good, they are good.
      I’m a single hcp and nordic senior (over 55 year).

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      Doug

      11 years ago

      I hit the crap out of my M4. Unfortunately, I hit a natural draw and this club due to the offset already wants to go left. Cleveland has changed shafts on the 2013’s but I haven’t tried one.

      If they want to be better than anybody out there they need to come up with hybrids with less offset and adjustable just like drivers and fairway woods. Keep putting top end shafts in all their clubs. That shaft is what makes the golf club what it is, not the colors. If I can find a Cleveland hybrid that fits my game the only “wood” I would carry would be a driver.

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      Macd

      11 years ago

      Good review. Needed something between my 3 wood and 4 iron, so I bought the 18 degree 2iron Mashie. I love it. Good club all around. Simple, straight forward club. Grip it and rip it, and you’ll be pleasently surprised.

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      Hybrids only...

      12 years ago

      Only iron in my bag –– a 9 iron. Cleveland wedges and Niblicks. Rest are Mashies, all five.
      The mashie is a straight shooter and produces confidence. If the ball goes left for your testers, I see the same effect everyday on the course. Baseball swingers with the strong underhand and hook grip. You don’t need those grips with hybrids.
      Your testing accomplishes nothing. Hybrids will replace the iron eventually. Evolution of golf equipment is essential.
      Swing smooth, refine tempo and timing –– the ball will search for the target.

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      B wood

      12 years ago

      Way better than the hi-bore and any other hybrid that Clevland has come up with in the past. If your looking for a new hybrid take a look at the mashie and if it’s not right for you look at the various hybrids Adams has. I also have an Adams super hybrid like above poster which is more of a fairwaywood and I love that in 17* but found I like the mashie 21 better than my Adams 21. Found it easier to hit from rough and fairway bunkers. Probably due to smaller head shorter shaft and a more long iron feel.

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      B wood

      12 years ago

      I don’t know who you have reviewing this club but it sounds as if there a bunch of club snobs and had there mind made up even before swinging the club. Your review is the exact opposite of what my friends and I came up with. I have a 21 and not only found the distance longer by some 15 yards buy I also found if moderatly forgiving as far as hybrids go. I also found the feedback from the club to be good. You know when you hit it clean, off the toe or the hosel. I like the light shaft and found it gave a nice high ball flight wether off the tee from the fairway and even from thick rough. Are there better hybrids out there? Yes. Are there worse? Yes. This just goes to show don’t go by reviews online. Pick it up and swing it. It’s a better club than most that are more expensive. As for the guy who couldn’t hit it 170 I think he needs he’s wheaties. My best friend who is 5’5″ and 130 lbs was hit this thing over 200 with a nice draw. Don’t listen to these guys the majority of them are probably titleist snobs. There is plenty of clubs just as good or better for cheaper( paying for the name)If you want a club that’s just as good for cheaper pick one of these up and give it a try. Don’t listen to me or them try it yourself don’t automatically assume it’s no good cause these guys said so. The only reviews I put any stock in and it still very little is the hot list. Sorry for getting long winded but I’m tired of reading reviews of quality clubs that they trash just cause it’s not traditional or it’s offset or it’s not one of the bigger names. Most of these people have an opinion before the even hit it based on name or look. If you think its no good they probably arent gonna hit it good. Prime example mister 170. By the way my GF hits a 4 iron 170. Most these guys were trying to kill it and this shaft isn’t made for that. Nice easy swings 200 and straight no problem

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      Timothy D Watson

      13 years ago

      I like the tumble finish on the crown of this club. It gets me all sentimental for some of the clubs of the past.

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      Sliq

      13 years ago

      I have a feeling the gray crown paint looks much better in person than it does in these photos.

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      TheGreekGrind

      13 years ago

      This club reminded me (in appearance) a bit of the Big Bertha Diablo hybrid. The shape is similar, with the BBD more rounded, and the sole in particular is very similar, with the Mashie looking to borrow the Dual Runner Sole.

      The Mashie was ok. However I wasn’t blown away by it, and not even really impressed enough to want it in my bag. Even were I not a Callaway fan, I’d bag the BBD before the Mashie.

      Try it if you’re out at a retail store or local course demo day, but nothing particularly special about if in my opinion if you don’t.

      Don’t agree with all the reviews MSG has done, but this review seems spot on in all aspects.

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      Brian

      13 years ago

      Funny I just went to buy a new Hybrid and the Mashie was the one I was looking the most forward to hitting. I loved the look and though it would fit me perfectly. Well long story short, I was not able to hit the thing at all. I ended up getting the new Nike VR Pro. I liked how the head was smaller than most hybrids and most of all I liked that it was really hard to hit a straight pull with it.

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      CLINT

      13 years ago

      Please review the Cleveland CG1 tour irons, hopefully with KBS tour X shaft(plus 1/2). I got 15 more yards of carry then my MP-62 Irons with TTDG SL S300 shafts plus 1.5″.

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      nic

      13 years ago

      Nice review. It is sad that you could not incorporate the Tour Mashie into the process, as that club has a much more appealing “look”. Just WFIW, the Mashie is a top seller here at our store. We hit outside, and the Mashie seems to outperform many of the other major names in hybrids. I know that I do not have the empirical data to prove the performance of the club… Just the choices that my Customers make after hitting all the available hybrids outdoors…
      N.

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      GolfSpy T

      13 years ago

      Nic – You may very well be right about the Tour Mashie. Given that our testers showed an extreme bias to the left side (even our normal slicer), it plenty possible, even likely, that a head with less offset would have produced better results for them.

      What I can say from my own experience is that testers very rarely choose the club that actually performs best for them. Even when presented with data to the contrary, they’ll often tell me things like “yeah, but I like this one better”. Whether looks, feel, or brand recognition are at the root of that, I really can’t say.

      Finally, as a guy who works the retail end of things, how much of a role do you think price pays in the buying decision? We’ve basically thrown value out as a category (too many guys rating anything over $150 as a low value), but I’ll be the first to acknowledge that at $150, the Mashie is a hell of a bargain. Most hybrids have crept up to the $200 range, and the 910H we reviewed earlier retails for $230. It’s very possible that our testers think the 910H is the better club, but ultimately the consumer has to ask himself whether or not the 910 (as a specific example), is $80 worth of better. Even for me, it’s tough to argue there is $80 worth of performance between them.

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      Paul

      13 years ago

      I find it very curious that months ago, before the official launch of this club, here on MGS, a group of testers RAVED about a club they were able to try ahead of the general public, which later was revealed to be the mashie. Now, it seems not so great… Hmm. Was it great because it was new and secret? Very curious. Very curious indeed. What factors lead the group to be so supportive months ago, vs. this testing? Odd to have a club’s ratings opposing each other in such a short period of time.

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      GolfSpy T

      13 years ago

      Paul – I think you have us confused with another site. No one at MyGolfSpy “tested” the Mashie ahead of the release date. I would suggest that what you read elsewhere wasn’t as much a review as a thinly veiled Cleveland commercial. Our club tests are all about data,. For many other places, so-called reviews are little more than product promos written in such a way to all but guarantee that advertisers stay happy. If you’re unsure which you’re reading, check the banner ads on the site.

      We don’t take money from the big OEMs. We have enough issues with some of them trying to control our content. If we had to depend on them for a paycheck it would only get worse, and we wouldn’t be able to write as objectively as we do.

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      Golfspy Dave

      13 years ago

      Nice complete review T (as always).

      You guys should check out the Callaway Razr X hybrid next. I would be curious to see how my feelings about it stand up to your testing methods.

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      David Wozny

      13 years ago

      My buddy told me about this a couple months ago. I was like sweet, a mashie… and a knit headcover????!!!! AWESOME. And then I saw pics of it… was not impressed. I have an Adams Super Hybrid with a RIP shaft, I wasn’t concerned about even giving the mashie a try. Well done, very good review.

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      Jack

      13 years ago

      I found this review to be completely opposite of what my own testing and that of another forum (247 pages of responses!). The general conclusion was that it is an accurate and very dependable club with the only caveat that you need to check your grip position on the club and where you place the ball in your stance. This report was very surprising.
      (user of a M2 and M4 mashie-14 ghin)

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      GolfSpy T

      13 years ago

      Jack – What you’re talking about is largely subjective and anecdotal accounts of performance. Everybody should form their own opinion about a golf club, and if there are reviewers who have earned your trust, than it’s reasonable you will weight their opinions heavily.

      What we do here isn’t as much a review as it is a test. We collect real data from real golfers. Yes, we also collect subjective information, which is exactly the type of opinion that accounts for nearly 100% of the reviews you’ll read elsewhere, but actual performance is weighted more heavily in our scoring equations.

      We learned very quickly that what our testers often believe to be true (where distance and accuracy are concerned) often isn’t wholly supported by the data. If a golfer likes the way a club looks and feels, he’s more apt to remember the positives, and not always consider what the true average performance of a club is from shot to shot. As an example, if you normally hit a 21 degree hybrid 200 yards, but once or twice over a testing session you hit it 220, those will be the shots you remember. The mind wants to forget the ones that only went 180, 190, etc. When we score, we consider the averages; based on the data, where will the average shot land. The best shots do of course factor in to those averages, but no more than the very worst shots.

      Because subjectivity can’t be trusted, we publish overall numbers for both our subjective surveys, and the ACTUAL PERFORMANCE of the golf club based on the data we collect in our simulators.

      To the specifics of the Mashie hybrid; it’s completely possible that the average distance from the center line (19.25 yards), may prove to be very good once we’ve tested a few more hybrids. That said, that number is nearly 6 full yards farther off center than the Titleist 910H we tested earlier this year. If you can visualize what a difference of 6 yards looks like from 200 yards down the fairway, I think you and I would agree that we’re not talking about a tremendous margin (which could explain why so many have claimed it to be an extremely accurate club), but nevertheless, when we compare it to other clubs (granted it has only been one so far), the data suggests it’s actually less accurate – and that is reflected in the score.

      One of the things I hope to add in the not to distance future are dynamic comparative sheets so that everyone can see how all the scores break down and compare within a given category of club.

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      Matt C

      13 years ago

      Great to see reviews that are not always just saying how wonderful stuff is. I’ve had a Launcher 3 wood and hibore hybrid and driver over the years…the launcher is nice, and the hybrid excellent (the driver sounds like a bullet going off, but hey), but yeah, cleveland are under rated for sure. The head looks a little uninspiring

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      GolfSpy T

      13 years ago

      Matt – Funny you should mention the HiBore hybrid. I came dangerously close to buying one a few years back. That was a very good hybrid by any measure. To some extent, I think the manufacturers have taken a step backward with hybrid design over the last couple of years. Hopefully that changes with the next generation.

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      clam fist

      13 years ago

      Thanks for the honest review. I fell for the hype on a different forum and purchased the M1 mashie. Not a bad club, but not anything to warrent any excitement.

      Again I have to say how much I like the way your reviews are broken up into sections. Makes it easy to weigh the pros and cons.

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