First Look: Bridgestone’s Tour B ADF Packaged Set
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First Look: Bridgestone’s Tour B ADF Packaged Set

First Look: Bridgestone’s Tour B ADF Packaged Set

Can you recall anyone selling a packaged golf set made up of high-end 1020 forged irons and wedges and Tour-level metal woods – all with premium shafts – along with a top quality stand bag, travel bag, and a stiff arm?

I can’t either.

Bridgestone’s new Tour B ADF package isn’t your typical beginners boxed set – we’re talking Bridgestone’s latest front-line equipment here, much of which has previously only been available in Asia. It’s an innovative idea, but when it comes to innovation, there’s a fine line between a creative, new, oh-wow type of idea and there being a very good reason why no one has tried it before.

Zack Kupperbush, Bridgestone’s Golf Club Product Manager, says the idea for the Tour B ADF set (ADF stands for Accuracy, Distance and Feel) came from 18 months of extensive market and consumer research.

“As far as we know, I don’t think anyone has ever done this,” he says. “But our research shows there is a market for it.”

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Do NOT Call This a “Boxed Set”

There are two ways to look the Tour B ADF packaged set. It’s either a concept-busting packaging-and-sales innovation, or it’s another stab at relevance by a brand that, despite its array of high-performing equipment, is still struggling to find its place in the sun.

It could quite possibly be both. Or neither.

But whatever it is, don’t call it a boxed set.

“The extent of it being a boxed set is that we ship it to you in a box,” says Kupperbush. “After that…”

Bridgestone is packing a lot of premium equipment into that box. To wit:

  • Tour B XD5 driver with the Project X HZRDUS Red shaft
  • Tour B XDF 3-wood, also with HZRDUS Red
  • Tour B XDH 2 hybrid, with the KBS Tour Prototype hybrid shaft
  • Tour B-HI 3 & 4 driving irons, also with the KBS Tour Prototype
  • Tour B X-CBP 1020 forged irons, 5-PW with black KBS $ Taper shafts
  • Tour B XW-1 forged wedges in black oxide, also with black KBS $ Taper shafts

The set also includes Bridgestone’s lightweight stand bag and a logoed Bag Boy T-10 travel bag, with a stiff arm for added protection.

What makes the set somewhat compelling is, other than the wedges, none of the clubs are part of Bridgestone’s current US mainline offering, but are part of the Japanese Domestic Market and Asian offerings.

“When we started the whole process, we were surprised to learn how many people knew about product that existed in the Japanese or Asian markets,” says Kupperbush. “We’re a much bigger company overseas that we are in the US, and we have a large catalog of clubs that haven’t been released here that we can pick through and figure out how to use here.”

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Bridgestone is importing the components and assembling them here in the USA. The shafts are for the golfer looking for mid-to-high launch, with the full set falling on the better player side of game-improvement.

The driver and fairway heads, when combined with the HZRDUS Red shafts, are designed to be high launching weapons, with the driver featuring a slight draw bias. The CBP irons feature a cavity back pocket design (hence the CBP), and are an update to Bridgestone’s previous J-15 Dual Pocket Forged irons. They’re 1020 forged and feature a little more offset and a bit wider sole than the existing Tour B X-CB irons. They’re reasonably comparable to the Callaway Apex or the Wilson C-300 Forged in terms of playability.

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You can get any grip you’d like on the set, as long as it’s the Golf Pride MCC in red/platinum. The set will be available on both regular and stiff flexes, and you can choose between a 9.5° or a 10.5° driver. Bought individually, the items in the set would cost around $3,600.00, but Bridgestone is selling the package for $2,799.99.

Oh yeah, it will only be available online via Bridgestone’s website, which brings us to…

The $2,800 Question

Actually, there are several questions.

First, does the golf market need, or even want, a premium-grade, direct-to-consumer packaged set, even if it is priced to move at $2,800? Is this a solution in search of a problem?

Second, will golfers shell out $2,800 for premium clubs that can’t be demoed or custom fitted?

And third, if there are any doubts about questions 1 and 2, why the hell do this?

That last question is an easy one to answer: If you’re Bridgestone, why the hell not?

“We’re still fighting the battle of making people aware that Bridgestone makes clubs,” says Kupperbush, who adds there will be an aggressive paid digital marketing campaign for the ADF set – a first for Bridgestone. “Even if someone isn’t going to get into this set, even if they hate the idea, at least they’ll know we make golf clubs.”

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As for the second question – we can hear Pitchfork Nation already readying the torches. No, there will be no demo program for this set and no, there will be no custom fitting or shaft options for this set. Bridgestone will customize for lie angle, length, and other specifics, but the set is the set is the set. And to further piss off Pitchfork Nation, it’s right-handed only, at least at launch.

“By no means are we saying don’t go get fit, or that we know better than you,” says Kupperbush. The mid- to high-launch, game improvement configuration does fit the big old meaty part of the golfing public, and Kupperbush adds there are people out there who may be intimidated by the fitting process.

“For whatever reason, they may not want to get fit, or they’re uncomfortable with the process. We want to provide an option for someone who understands they want better clubs than a $200 set from a department store.”

If you’re adamantly pro-fitting, that explanation does sound a little weak, but it is undeniable that the majority of golfers, even semi-serious ones, have never been fitted for their equipment. It’s also important to note that Bridgestone is not doing away with its Tour B X equipment line, which can be custom fit through retailers and specialty fitters. And not for nothing, Kupperbush tells MyGolfSpy to expect two new full product lines – updates to both the JGR and Tour B X – within the next six to eight months.

To take some of the risks out of buying sight unseen, Bridgestone is offering a full 30-day money back guarantee on the ADF set. If you game it and don’t like it, send it back, and they’ll refund your money.

As for the direct-to-consumer approach? Bridgestone has been testing the waters for more online marketing and the direct-to-consumer model for its equipment business. Already this year we’ve seen online only test-marketing for the Tour B X-HI driving irons as well as the Tiger Tour B golf balls. With the relative success Hogan is having selling premium equipment online only, this could be a trial balloon of sorts for Bridgestone, to see what happens.

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Catch 22

While its golf balls are everywhere, Bridgestone is – to put it kindly – a Challenger equipment brand. Outside of PGA Tour SuperStores and a handful of other outlets, you’ll have a hard time finding Bridgestone clubs on the shelves due to the Catch 22 of golf retail: to sell stuff you have to be on the shelves, and to get on the shelves you have to have demand. To be in demand you have to market, and to market, you have to have marketing money.

How do you get marketing money? You have to sell stuff.

I’m not saying Bridgestone doesn’t have money – it has more money than Nike, and Bridgestone remains a leading golf equipment company in Japan and throughout Asia. North America, however, has been a struggle, and the old business adage says if you keep doing what you’ve been doing you’ll keep getting what you’ve been getting.

And if what you’ve been getting is bupkis, it may very well be time to try some new ideas.

For more information on the Tour B ADF Packaged set, visit BridgestoneGolf.com

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      Ol'pal Gary

      6 years ago

      I wouldn’t mind giving these a try, but I can pick & choose my wants, for close to the same money.
      TaylorMade Golf- M CGB Combo Irons (8 Club Set) Graphite Price: $1,499.99
      3 & 4 hybrds 5-PW
      TaylorMade Golf- M3 440 Driver $499.99

      TaylorMade Golf- M4 Tour Fairway 3 Wood $299.99

      Callaway Golf- Mack Daddy Forged Brushed Slate Wedge $129.99 x 3 = $389.89
      52* + 56* + 60*

      Odyssey Golf O-Works Red 2 Ball Fang Putter Winn Mid AVS Red $189

      Sun Mountain Golf C-130 5-Way Cart Bag $240

      Total = $3119

      Reply

      mackdaddy

      6 years ago

      Correct me if I’m wrong. Hasn’t Bridgestone been forging irons in Japan and selling them under a different name for years and developed quite the following in the far east?

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      Doug

      6 years ago

      Wow, it’s alluring and all as a “complete set”, but I think they’ve made a mess. On the beginner and completely uninitiated side, this set is entirely too expensive. I suppose there are those few guys with plenty of money to throw around that this could appeal to, but that type of guy isn’t looking for this, he’s buying something out of the store.

      On the advanced side, and even for many intermediate players, I don’t know too many guys who are willing to buy an entire set, assuming they really needed all the set pieces, without a test drive.

      Then there are all the working parts. As many have noted, they’re selling a draw biased driver along with a 2 hybrid and 3/4 driving irons? These worlds don’t typically belong together.

      Fitting and practicality aside, I think Bridgestone’s mistake is that they’re trying way too hard to kill too many birds with one stone. If they want to sell Japanese release product AND sell sets, fine, do that, but edit the selection a little more, and make this set for whom set sells are intended for, which is mostly startup players. Go with the conventional set wisdom and simplify this thing down to carry/stand bag, D, 3W, 4H, 5I-9I, PW/SW, putter. If they want to sweeten the deal, maybe throw in a couple sleeves each of their different ball offerings and trim the price, and they might have a better buyer base. Lose the travel case, lose the long irons.

      Reply

      Ryan

      6 years ago

      I don’t know why everyone seems to hate this idea. Sure there are some very obvious flaws (no fitting, no substitute options, etc.). However, I like the idea in general. If Titleist, Taylormade or any other major brand offered something like this, with an option to get fitted and to swap out some clubs for other clubs that match your swing better, I would definitely consider going this route. I am interested to see how this does.

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      Brandon B

      6 years ago

      I can’t hit a 2 Hybrid. It’s a hooking machine. Not consistent enough with long irons, I had a 2, 4 and 5 hybrid with my set.

      Why would a mid-handicapper (14-16) buy this set with a 2 Hybrid and 2 driving irons? I’ve just moved from the 2 Hybrid to a 5 wood.

      Makes more sense to go 3 wood, 5 wood, 3 and 4 Hybrids.

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      Fozcycle

      6 years ago

      Good read. Now this is a terrific idea for the businessman that does a lot of traveling or has multiple locations and wants to golf.

      Reply

      Dave

      6 years ago

      Good idea , by a good company. Don’t see anything wrong in trying something different with a top of the line club. Just wait not the first to do this what about Hogan if this works all the other hi priced over marketed companies will be doing the same thing. Only difference will be cost only $3995.99 hurry before they are all gone.

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      scott

      6 years ago

      Bridgestone should have called me first, most smart golfers should never have a 3 wood in there bag. What is needed in every bag is a 5 -7 and even a 9 wood followed by two or three hybrids with the irons starting at 7 to 9 then three SM Volkey wedges ….Dream Bag of a 6 hdc

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      Mark T.

      6 years ago

      The configuration you mention, 5-7 and possibly a 9-wood is unique to YOU. I’d never carry or hit those clubs. My game doesn’t need it yet.
      Just proves the point, no ‘box set’ fits every player. As for not having a custom fitting in a high end set. Good luck.

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      scott

      6 years ago

      You are right one size doesn’t fit all but box sets are for weekend golfers and they need help ..as for your statement My game doesn’t need it yet…who’s fooling who if your not a scratch golfer don’t let pride stop you from finding your best golf

      Duffy McHackster

      6 years ago

      I suppose there may be some market for this, but I would think it fairly limited. As far as the no chance to demo or get fit, the irons at least would be bendable to fit. The biggest issue for me would be the lack of options within the package. Not all of us want to (or could) play driving irons, and only 2 wedges will cause gapping issues for some. For those who say this is a stupid idea that will ruin the company, its not like they are creating these clubs solely for this package, its all existing product, only the marketing is different. it will not destroy the company if it fails, but serve as a lesson learned. If nothing else, at least they tried something new.

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      JonD

      6 years ago

      Hmmm… Maybe they should consider selling this at Costco for $999. As for me I am not going to bite and I doubt anyone else will.

      How can one manufacturer get everything right for one person? I currently have five different manufacturer’s clubs in my bag counting the putter.

      I spent a lot of time figuring out which club worked the best for each need. I paid no attention to the Manufacturer, I wanted the club that worked the best for me regardless of who built the darn thing.

      Where does the club fitter come in here?

      This idea is just plain dumb.

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      steve hamer

      6 years ago

      dont say bad things about them just wait for the fools with big bucks to change there minds in a few months and buy them on ebay for ten cents on the dollar they paid.

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      cksurfdude

      6 years ago

      Hmmm. The fact it’s packaged with a travel bag – that looks fairly decent btw – and a stuff arm leads me to believe they may intend for this to be a “travel set” for the better-heeled golfer who travels a few times a year to play and would prefer not to risk losing/damaging their primary set .. which most likely cost them all in way more than $2,800….

      But I gotta agree with the other comments, re: 2H and driving irons .. .. these do not seem to belong in the same set with the mid-high launch shafts and CB style irons..???

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      Tom

      6 years ago

      And as with most other Bridgestone clubs, there will be no opportunity to look at or demo the clubs in this set. The only options being offered by Bridgestone are shaft flex (R or S) and driver loft (9.5* or 10.5*) – $-Taper irons shafts and Hzrdus Red wood shafts, that’s it.

      I’m a big fan of Bridgestone irons, but do they really think that people are going to spend $2800 without some level of fitting or customization? People who would choose the Tour B X-CBP irons are unlikely to be the same people who play and $-Taper shaft, the combo just doesn’t make any sense.

      I really can’t see them selling more than a handful of these pre packaged sets.

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      Eric

      6 years ago

      Bridgestone? Lol. I used to game a full bag. They have lost the way since j40 line. Our research shows! ?? Who what and where was research done. They might as well sell my a some socks shirt and shorts with this set too.

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      808nation

      6 years ago

      $2800 is a lot of money to buy clubs that may or not work for you, maybe just the driver may work, but what about the other clubs? When I build my WITB, it’s more personalized to my swing and my taste. In all my years of playing this game and buying clubs, I have never liked every club from one particular brand.

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      zesflog

      6 years ago

      I remember when BSG launched their custom ball fitting program back in 2007. All the other ball companies “just knew” BSG would fail miserably with that program…….five years later, Titleist and several others had their own ball fitting programs. Just saying…..

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      Wes Paofinos

      6 years ago

      Are these the same Tour Bs that were set to be exclusive to club builders last year that are now sold online on their website?

      Is it me or is this just a step up from a box set at Walmart?

      Knowing Bridestone’s line up overseas it seems like there is just someone who picks clubs from a catalog and brings to US.

      These clubs are too good to be sold like this. Pick up the game Bridgestone

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      TheGapper

      6 years ago

      And what about the yardage gaps? 18° hybrid to 20° driving iron, to 22° driving iron? Then the big 5°-6° gaps at the 9-iron/wedges end. What a mess.

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      KC

      6 years ago

      Bridgestone has always made some very nice clubs, but I don’t see why someone would buy this set. A 2 hybrid? What if you prefer a 3 hybrid or 5 wood? I know a good fitter can be hard to find, but if you’re going to spend this much you should try. Then again many golfers buy 9* drivers when they should by 12* ones so logic doesn’t dictate what will sell.

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      Gdb99

      6 years ago

      Well, I was looking forward to reading about these clubs on their website. But, as was mentioned, I don’t hit a 2 hybrid or driving irons. If I could throw in a lofted fw and a couple other hybrids, even a putter option, I would be more interested.

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      D.A.

      6 years ago

      Dave has got it right and I agree there is a small pool of golfers and wanna be golfers that will fork over that kind of money for a complete set of clubs including a bag to hump em. 2,800 buckaroos will buy you a mighty fine set of sticks including a 300 dollar putter with money left over for a cart bag. hmmmmm W.C. Fields said there was a sucker born everyday! Interesting read guys. Keep up the good work!!!

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      scott

      6 years ago

      After reading some of the comments making fun of Bridgestone box set priced at $2800 it made me think of all them golfers who pay $500 for a driver $300 for a fairway woods and last week I saw a Hybrid marked at the low, low price of $250 so let’s buy two. I haven’t got to the Irons ( $800 to $2100 ) but I think you get the point. You can fool some of the people all the time Taylormade , Callaway, Cobra, Ping. etc think so.

      P.S. Scotty Cameron putt for only $450 used

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      LivenearPar_Golf

      6 years ago

      The Japanese Market will take it…but this sounds like someone in the BStone marketing department has his/her dad on the executive board….terrible idea. Great clubs…..terrible idea.

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      Rod

      6 years ago

      Really???? Do they pay this guys to work there?
      Nobody will pay that much for that… Walmart package. And it either isn’t a beginners set, considering there’s some market for that.

      There are so many ways to get into the market, specially having some quality forged irons; their’s is not even an idea!

      It is the dumbest thing I’ve heard about promoting a brand.. $2800 wow

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      Rod

      6 years ago

      via email, no demoing!

      I would love a follow up on this article to see how their titanic idea worked out.

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      Scoot24

      6 years ago

      What you are missing is that they are already in the market and not selling as many clubs as they would like. Sometimes you just have to be different to get attention. Trying to break into an ignorant, commercially hyped market like the US is not easy due to this ignorance. What people are willing to pay for Titleist ProV1 balls, even when their game doesn’t justify anything more than Spaulding x-outs, is a prime example. (And they swear by them) Bridgestone already have the clubs so its not like they are investing a bunch of money in R&D. It’s advertising that they are using in an attempt gain their brand attention with very little investment. As for your Walmart comment; what clubs do you have in your bag? My guess is they don’t measure up to the quality of these.

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      ROD

      6 years ago

      I’m sorry my comment was not clear enough.
      I think Bridgestone builds great quality clubs.. no doubt about it.
      But their marketing/business ideas are lame.

      The Walmart comment: I meant that its packaged like something you can buy there: pre-packaged, no testing, no choices. and its not cheap. IMO these kind of sets are oriented to people that are starting in golf, they dont know yet much and just want a set of clubs … only a very small % on this segment will pay that much.

      Players, we enjoy searching, testing and mingling parts … grips, shafts, etc. IMHO – these segment wont like the Bridgestone package. they can get some good stuff with that amount of money.

      There’s nothing wrong with people paying for PROV1s or anything they want! its their money, and its what moves the economies!
      thats why Marketing departments exist:

      … to make a simple thing, into something desirable.

      Bridgestone is failing miserable. I guess it has something to do with the heads rolling.

      txgolfjunkie

      6 years ago

      If this is successful, then maybe we’ll see the return of full sets by major club companies. I know folks like Callaway had a full set in the past but I’m curious at this price point by Bridgestone if this will be successful. Want to invest in golf? Here’s a full bag, minus putter and golf balls, for $2800! Seems a bit on the high end.

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      Dana Dutcher

      6 years ago

      Most golfers are smart enough to know tour pros clubs are tweaked no matter what they are paid to play with. These aren’t.

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      Johnny Penso

      6 years ago

      Is it April 1st again? This almost reads like a joke. What are they thinking?

      Reply

      Dana Dutcher

      6 years ago

      There’s a sucker born every minute is what they are thinking.

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      Terry McDowell

      6 years ago

      The only thing that I would want out of this set is the travel case

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      Tebo

      6 years ago

      1020 forged irons? I’d take those…too

      Reply

      Johnny Cowboy

      6 years ago

      But how would you remove the Bridgestone logo from them???

      Dave

      6 years ago

      When are these companies going to stop forcing the public to buy long irons – even the driving irons – the majority of golfers can’t hit very well? Even the 2-hybrid is a little shaky for most people. This could be a great idea, but there’s such a small pool of people for whom this set actually works. And the “this is the set, take it or leave it” approach isn’t exactly helpful. Also, global commerce isn’t what it used to be. If you really want items from foreign markets, it’s fairly easy to get them now through a variety of channels. This could be a great collector’s item – maybe?

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