First Look: Cleveland CBX 2 Wedges
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First Look: Cleveland CBX 2 Wedges

First Look: Cleveland CBX 2 Wedges

According to Cleveland Golf, most of us are still doing it wrong.

Two years ago, Cleveland gave us the CBX wedge, designed for the golfer who plays game improvement irons, which is to say, most of us. Cleveland said at the time 84% of us play game improvement irons, so logic dictates we should play wedges that fit the same profile: a larger, forgiving head with a cavity back, but with far more wedgieness than set-matching gap, sand and lob wedges provide.

Two years later, the old clock on the wall says it’s time for a CBX upgrade. While the first-generation CBX wedge outsold projections (Cleveland says “by a little bit”), it was in some ways a category buster – a non-traditional, non-blade style wedge in a traditional, blade-style world. The new CBX 2 is still a non-traditional, non-blade style wedge – and for some that will be a non-starter – but if you’re a mid-to-high handicapper, there are enough upgrades to make you want to read on.

Sole Limbo

Cleveland designed the original CBX wedge to be a Wedge-Festivus for the Rest of Us. Were they successful? Well, yes and no.

“If I play game improvement equipment or cavity back irons, I probably shouldn’t be playing this heavy, compact blade wedge,” says Brian Schielke, Cleveland Golf’s marketing director (and former golf club product manager). “Yes, it was successful in terms of we did really well with it. But I’d say no in terms of the 84% of golfers who play improvement equipment – not all switched to CBX.”

If there’s one criticism of the original CBX is with just one sole grind throughout the line, what it gained in simplicity, it lacked in versatility – you were limited in the kinds of shots you could hit around the green. A miscalculation by Cleveland? Perhaps. There are some mid-to-high handicappers who do like a little flexibility around the green, and while the original CBX was money on full shots, you had to make do with what you had the closer you got to the hole.

“There were shots people wanted to hit that the sole wasn’t perfect for,” admits Schielke. “So we redesigned the sole of CBX 2 and made them different sole grinds per loft.”

The new CBX 2 features three separate grinds, categorized by loft. For example, how do you use your 46 to 52-degree wedges? Full, square-faced shots, most likely, so the new CBX 2 features Cleveland’s traditional V-Sole in those lofts. The 54 and 56-degree wedges feature an S-grind for bunker and open-faced finesse shots. It’s wider on the toe for more forgiveness and narrower at the heel so you can still open it up – not as much as a blade-style wedge, but enough for most golfers in the target audience. The 58 and 60-degree wedges have a C-shaped sole, so you can open up for lob shots but still keep the leading-edge low.

The idea, says Schielke, is to give golfers flexibility without overloading them with choices.

“If there are ten different sole grind options, nine out of ten times golfers will pick the wrong one,” he says. “We do player testing every single day with our target golfers, and we’re trying to take the guesswork out of selecting a sole grind and make sure they have the right sole for the right shots.”

Feeling Groovy

The CBX 2, like its predecessor, features the same groove technology as Cleveland’s RTX-4 wedge line, which is basically grooves on top of grooves on top of grooves. It starts with Cleveland’s Rotex Milling, that swirly, moisture channeling pattern carved into the face. Next, are Tour Zip Grooves – 17 of them – milled into the face with what Cleveland calls “proprietary edge radii specifications.” Pretty much every OEM does a variation of this, with narrower and deeper grooves on the stronger lofts for full shots, and wider, shallower grooves on the weaker lofts for more bite on partial shots.

The final step is laser milling: 96 etched lines between the grooves to even more face roughness. Schielke says the goal is to optimize spin whether in any condition – wet or dry – and from any lie.

“If you hit wedges off the tee, there’s absolutely nothing between the ball and the face, and they all spin just fine,” he says. “It’s when you have slight inconsistencies, where you have blades of grass between the face and the ball, or some moisture between the face and the ball. That’s where spin really drops off.”

“That’s where we try to optimize our grooves and our face texture with laser milling. We try to bring those spin differences closer together.”

Hooked on a Feeling

Aside from sole grinds, the other significant upgrade is in something Cleveland calls Feel Balancing Technology, which started in RTX-3 and was included in the original CBX. In a nutshell, Feel Balancing Technology Cleveland’s version of moving the Center of Gravity away from the heel and more towards the center of the face. While the notion is hardly revolutionary – pretty much every major wedge player is doing the same thing – it is kind of complicated to do.

With CBX 2, Cleveland is doubling down on CG by actually moving it more towards the toe, where its studies indicate a majority of the target CBX golfers tend to hit it. Toe shots can be maddening, especially when you leave it well short of the green or in a bunker after flushing your drive and second on a long par 5.

Cleveland used several design features to move the CG toward the toe, including drilling out a micro-cavity in the hosel and adding a small cutout on the outer hosel itself. There’s also a new hollow cavity for CBX 2, which creates discretionary weight to be moved where it’s needed.

“It allows us to position more weight towards the toe to get the CG where we want it, while still making it look like a balanced wedge,” says Schielke. “If you have a pure blade-looking wedge without a hollow cavity and you want the weighting out there, you’d have to have some massive chunk of metal out toward the toe that wouldn’t look very good. The wedge wouldn’t look balanced, and people would be turned off immediately.”

The cavity is filled with a Gelback insert – a urethane material to help dampen vibration and improve feel. The original CBX had an open cavity that looked, well, open. The Gelback fills in the cavity and gives the wedge a more finished look.

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Easy Like Sunday Morning

If the CBX wedge line is about anything, it’s about easy. Full shots are damn near automatic with any of the CBX 2 grinds, and the heel relief on the higher lofted wedges is a welcome addition for partial shots from both the rough and from tight lies. There’s still a lot of bounce, but in virtually any situation for us mere mortal golfers, bounce is your friend.

Cleveland is sticking with the Dynamic Gold 115 as the steel shaft option for CBX 2. It’s mid- to low-launch and spin and, at 115 grams, makes for a much smoother transition from your GI or SGI irons with shafts weighing 105 grams or less. Cleveland is also sticking with its proprietary Rotex graphite shaft, which weighs-in at 90-grams.

“With CBX 1, we sold more wedges with graphite shafts than we have in the past,” says Schielke. “Because people play with graphite iron shafts that may weigh as little as 60 grams, it doesn’t make any sense for them to go to a 130-gram steel shaft. Rotex is lighter, is easier to swing and pairs better with their irons.”

Price, Availability and Final Thoughts

“People want to play better and have more fun on the course. We’re just trying to provide them with the equipment that helps them do that.”

If you want easy, CBX 2 – like its predecessor – certainly delivers. A practice session showed CBX 2 silly easy to hit on full and partial shots. While it’s not what the wedge was designed for, you can – with some adjustment – flight the ball higher or lower. If that’s your preferred style of wedge play, you’ll find a blade-style wedge more to your liking. If your goals are more modest and you just want to whack the ball greenward with plenty of stopping power, and do so more easily and consistently than you can with blade-style wedges, then CBX 2 should be on your demo list.

Around the green, the grinds and bounces do what they’re supposed to do and give you way more options for different types of shots than the original CBX. However, if you’re used to manipulating your wedge for a wider variety of shots, you’ll want to stick with a blade-style wedge.

Just remember for whom this wedge is designed.

“It’s a serious, high-quality wedge,” says Schielke. “But at the same time the message is ‘hey, it doesn’t necessarily make sense for you to be playing the same wedges built for the perfect ball-striker who hits the center of the face every single time.’ People want to play better and have more fun on the course. We’re just trying to provide them with the equipment that helps them do that.”

One lesson Cleveland admits it learned from the first generation of CBX is shelf appeal matters. To that end, Cleveland is sprucing up its retail presentation with CBX specific display racks, in-store posters, and benefit-specific packaging.

On top of that, CBX 2 is noticeably better looking than the first generation, despite being available in only one finish. It’s a bigger head than your standard blade wedge, to be sure, but like a mullet, it’s business in the front and a party in the back.

“We did all this work to the back of the wedge,” says Schielke. “There’s this big cavity and a lot going on, but it still looks like a nice blade wedge at address. The backside is where we do all the forgiveness  work, but having that nice, clean look at address is key to get people who play blade wedges to look at CBX 2.”

CBX 2 will be available in 46 to 60-degree lofts in two-degree increments, in both left and right-handed options. The 46- through 52-degree wedges will feature the V-sole, the 54 and 56-degree the S-shaped sole, and the 58 and 60-degree the C-shaped sole. As said earlier, the DG 115 wedge steel and the Rotex Precision graphite are stock shafts – although you can custom order with any shaft in Cleveland’s catalog. The Lamkin 360 is the stock grip.

The same lofts and grinds are available for women, with Cleveland’s Women’s Action Ultralight 50 wedge shaft as stock. While only the 52 and 56-degree models are available in stock models for left-handed golfers who are women, the men’s and women’s heads are the same, so any left-handed wedge can be custom ordered with any shaft.

Pricing is $139.99 for steel and $149.99 for graphite. While that is a $10 jump over the original CBX, it’s the same price structure as RTX-4, and still in the middle-lower end of the price curve for 2019/2020 wedges. CBX 2 will be available at retail and on Cleveland’s website starting August 30th.

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John Barba

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John is an aging, yet avid golfer, writer, 6-point-something handicapper living back home in New England after a 22-year exile in Minnesota. He loves telling stories, writing about golf and golf travel, and enjoys classic golf equipment. “The only thing a golfer needs is more daylight.” - BenHogan

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      OG845GUY

      4 years ago

      I am also a Wedge junky like a lot of you here., basement is littered with them. Fairly good player most of the time with a sub 5 HC. Had the Cleveland RTX3 for a couple seasons then donated them. Read an article on here about the SCOR 4161 wedges and they’ve been in the bag ever since. Unfortunately they’re beat up something fierce, company is out of business and I’ve been looking for replacement wedges ever since. I’m old school as well looking for 48/52/56 lofts. Will take a hard look at last years CBX after reading these posts. Love this website!

      Reply

      Alain Achue

      4 years ago

      The guy who ran Scor4161 brought back Ben Hogan Golf and the Equalizer Wedges are the replacement for the Scor Wedges.

      Reply

      Jay Vincent

      4 years ago

      I love the Cleveland wedges and I got to them via my Srixon irons a few years back. I broke away from the Vokeys/Callaways. I find it takes a significant amount of well-planned practice time to yield confidence and real gains in wedge play. And finding the right clubs for those shots cannot be decided by hitting balls off a plastic mat into a net, by what the pros are playing, or by what the manufacturer propaganda states. I gather a ton of information on the wedges to simply eliminate which clubs would be most likely candidates for the job (Thank you. MGS!), then I purchase them, and finally take them out to the practice areas to see how they perform, and finally to my club course for practice rounds to determine if they actually fit my game, and finally into real rounds if they make the cut.

      I have more wedges stacked against the wall that fell to the wayside than I want to admit, and that’s after I sold or traded most of the rejects online. That’s a lot of money that will never be returned – even if I did find some of them used and in acceptable condition that reflect their true playing characteristics. It’s an investment in my obsession with this ridiculous game.

      I did try the CBX and found they performed very well to excellent on straight forward shots, just as the article indicated. However, that’s where they were limited. Anything other than straight hits were awkward and usually compromised by their design. If you’re not willing to put in the time to become an exceptional wedge player, then stop right there and you’re search is over. The CBX is your answer. It really works – as advertised. .

      When my wedge play skill is high and my confidence levels are strong I put the RTX 3 blade wedges in the bag and I look like a wizard from any lie I find myself. But when I am struggling, the CBX or when critical the CBXs (ugh), go back in the rotation, which force me to keep everything simple and hardly creative with my shots. My game becomes a just get it on the green, versus get it to tap in distance. And my scores reflect that approach. And for my game that is about even par or so. But I like scoring low, really low, and that means muscle back irons and wedges for me.

      I know my low scores are due primarily to a better than average wedge game, but that’s because I love to practice, which I believe most players can’t or won’t do. Wedge and scoring iron practice is about 70% or more of my practice time, which is about 2-3 hours a day. when I’m not playing a round that day. The other 20% goes to mid-long irons/hybrids, and the remainder goes to fairway woods/Driver. I practice putting almost daily and that’s in it’s very own category.

      Over the last few seasons I have swapped out my set-matched muscle backed pitching wedges with more specific specialty wedges because they give me greater versatility on shorter shots. I will take full advantage any way and anywhere I can legally get it. I’m looking forward to trying out these new CBX2 versions. I want to see if they will perform as advertised..

      As is often the case with most technology, when it’s really good at one thing, it’s rarely good for another (i.e.- chipping wedges, ez out sand wedges), and if it’s trying to be good at all things, it’s usually great at nothing (multi-tools). I suppose that’s why we have Players irons and Game Improvement irons (not to mention Players distance, and Super GI irons now) and also why we have 14 clubs in the bag. And in my bag, at least 4 of those 14 slots are for scoring wedges. Do thirty percent of my clubs reflect 30% of my score? …hmmm? …oh hell yeah! That’s why they call them scoring clubs brother. Cha-Ching!

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      Drads

      5 years ago

      I have the CBX in 50, 54 and 60 and will also be adding the 46 to replace my set PW Awitched from the rtx and have never looked back. Easier to hit, much more consistent strike and can play all the shots I did with the RTX, changing flight, full shots, knock downs, pitches, flop shots the lot. I don’t use game improvement irons but do have forged cavity backs. Would recommend anyone to try, massively improved my game from 120yds in (3 handicap here for reference).

      Reply

      Sandy

      5 years ago

      I saw from one youtube channel that his LW used to fly 75y, but with the cbx, he is flying it 100y. Do u have the same experience?

      Reply

      Drads

      5 years ago

      They definitely go further than the rtx for me but not to that degree! I’d say a 10yd gain though certainly.

      GolfHo

      5 years ago

      Can anbody compare these to the new Ping Glide 3.0 wedges? Same target group, and forgiveness?

      Reply

      Addy Chaga

      5 years ago

      I changed my CG16 wedges in 52, 56 and 62. I have purchased the CBX in 48, 54 and 60. They have changed my game but the 60 degrees doesnt play the same like my old 62 which would stop the ball over the bunkers easy. I will try and order the new CBX 2 60 degrees and give it a try. Wonder whether Cleveland can make a 64 degree for me?

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      shortside

      5 years ago

      If I was in the market I’d give them a try. Though I prefer low bounce options as I play a lot of courses with tight lies and far from the best sand.

      That said I’ve been gaming their RTX-3 CB’s 46, 50, 54, 58, (more bounce options) and a 62 RTX for about a year now and absolutely love them. No plans on replacing them anytime soon.

      Mid handicaps aren’t hitting 11+ GIR’s a round. Our wedges are probably the most important scoring clubs in the bag. I fell in love with the RTX-3 CB taking a demo out for a round at one of my local tracks. Without a practice shot I was attacking flags on the fly. Ordered my set as soon as I got home that day.

      I wash them and and clean them and call them George. There are many like them. But these are mine.

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      John Barba

      5 years ago

      “I wash them and clean them and call them George.” Out-STANDING!! That’s all folks…

      Reply

      JR2

      5 years ago

      Manufacturers are making irons SO MUCH stronger in loft, in the race to give us more distance, that I have found my whole arsenal ends with a pitching wedge that goes 120 and then there’s this huge gap down from there to 60 yards before the rest of my wedges (from 3 different brands) kicks in. My lofts (and distances) are no longer coordinated like they once were and the feel and forgiveness is so dramatically off from club to club, it’s hard to know what is going to happen once I’m inside of 100 yards anymore. I suspect I am not alone in this. So I’m looking at Taylormade milled grind & Hit Toe, Callaway Mack Daddy (with a ton of grind, loft and bounce options to confuse us) and now, these. But you can’t demo these in indoors on turf and get a real sense for what wedges will be like in-game – so that rules out PGA Superstore/Dick’s etc.. Demo days rarely include all the brands you want to test, how are you supposed to get a good shake and figure out what you’re really going to like playing with? I’m getting tired of buying stuff untested (or tested indoors) and then selling it on Ebay a year later and trying something else. Anyone have a good solution for this?

      Reply

      Bob

      5 years ago

      Golf Galaxy allows outdoor demos of their equipment for a fee.
      Several Country clubs have demos for outdoor testing.
      If your demo goes well, be kind and buy it from who you demoed from.

      Reply

      JR2

      5 years ago

      Thanks for the tip – I called Golf Galaxy (the only one within hundreds of miles – in Altamonte, FL) – they hadn’t heard of doing outdoor demos, but maybe that’s in some areas of the country or certain stores….I’ll check with LPGA International (where our family gets our coaching and kids golf camps) and see if they do something like that – it would make all the difference!

      korban61

      5 years ago

      Global Golf has a U-Try program. Worth a try https://www.globalgolf.com/u-try/

      Reply

      Kansas King

      5 years ago

      I bought the original CBX in 52* earlier this year and love it. I’m a 5 handicap and this simply makes that 80 – 120 yard shot easy. I think most golfers would benefit having this wedge as their gap wedge. I don’t use it around the greens much so I don’t have any qualms with the sole grind or size of the head. I think my only minor thing I would change is reducing the offset just a little.

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      Steve

      5 years ago

      The 60° looks identical to the new Callaway “easy out” wedge. It also claims to be for the player who needs forgiveness. Any comment on it’s performance ?

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      John Barba

      5 years ago

      I presume you mean Callaway’s Sure Out 2 wedge. If so, they’re not identical at all, other than that both are wedges. The Sure Out (and Cleveland’s Smart Sole) have huge flanges and are designed primarily for getting out of the sand. The CBX 2 has a much narrower sole (not to say it’s narrow, it’s not), and are designed to be more all-around wedges.

      Here’s a link to our Sure Out 2 First Look article, which may help clear it up.

      http://mygolfspy.com/first-look-callaway-sure-out-2/

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      Fozcycle

      5 years ago

      Might have to give these a go…..

      Reply

      JonD

      5 years ago

      Just bought the steel shaft 48, 52 and 56 original CBX for $85 a piece. Can’t imagine the CBX 2 is worth $55 more.

      I figure 2 years from now I will replace the 56 with a 2 year old new CBX 2 for say $95. Then 2 years later replace the 56 CBX 2 with a new 2 year old CBX 3 for $100. Then 2 years after that replace all 3 with 2 year old new CBX 4s. For say $105.

      The sand wedge wears out faster.

      Been buying close out Cleveland wedges this way for over 25 years. Probably over 2 dozen or more all told. Just never buy when they first come out.
      Love them all, they just keep getting better.

      The CBX much better than previous additions. Especially on off center hits. Biggest jump in performance for Cleveland I can ever remember.

      Full cavity back is a huge improvement. Giant confidence builders.

      Very first sand shot with the new 56 CBX went in the hole.

      Wedges are consumables. Especially the sand wedges. No need to play cutting edge when they wear out so fast.

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      Kenny B

      5 years ago

      Nice looking wedges. I just replaced my wedges with Callaway PM Grinds and love them, but my wife is looking for wedges. I think I will have her start looking at Cleveland to replace her old Vokeys

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      Kenny B

      5 years ago

      Nice looking wedges. My wife is looking for wedges, and I think I will have her start looking at Cleveland to replace her old Vokeys

      Reply

      Dave

      5 years ago

      I bought a 58* CBX last year and have absolutely loved it. It is so easy to hit and feels so much more buttery than my Callaway irons. I’ve liked it so much I’ve considered getting the irons as well. I just really like how soft it feels. I am excited to see these new CBX 2’s.

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      Ryebread

      5 years ago

      I have had multiple CBX wedges I’m both steel and graphite. Granted I am the target market, but the CBX is the best wedge I have personally ever tried. And as someone who plays graphite shafted irons, graphite shafted wedges make sense.

      To Dave’s post, I like the CBX wedges so much that I have given the irons a hard look many times. I think Cleveland kind of missed the mark there. The iron heads look smaller with thinner soles and seemingly less forgiveness. It makes little sense (to me) to play wedges more forgiving than one’s irons.

      Now if Cleveland comes out with CBX v2 irons that match up with these wedges, they will have a winner. On paper that would make a lot of sense (larger, V Sole, hollow body). If they kept the offset down some, and matched the shafts to the wedges (Rotex shaft would seemingly be just fine in an iron), I’d buy a set.

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      SV677

      5 years ago

      It looks nice. Hopefully it is not as big a head as the original, which was huge. If it is smaller the CBX I might give it a look.

      Reply

      GS

      5 years ago

      Been playing the CBX since they came out the first time and they are something special. Never been confident with wedges but that’s changed with them being so easy to hit plus they spin just like any other top tier wedge. The stock shaft is awesome so I’m glad they carried it over to the next generation. Like stated in article, automatic is a good way to describe them. I play a 54/58 set up and never really had any issues opening up the 58° a little bit when needed. Purchased two for my wife 50/56 in graphite which has also made a big difference in her bag. Much more consistent, better shots vs her old Rtx3 cb set up. I had the Rtx3 cb models before to but they don’t compare at all honestly. Must say the looks are a lot cleaner and I hope they kept the custom colors/stamping options around for this release.

      Reply

      McaseyM

      5 years ago

      Good write up Barba!! The original CBX have been ( and continue to be) money for me and though i’m not in the market, would love to try these against them.

      Reply

      Martin

      5 years ago

      Great Article
      I prefer a wedge with a little more grinder in 56 -60 lofts but around the 50-52 lofts, these would work great.

      Reply

      Alex

      5 years ago

      Personally will likely not be playing these, but visually they are a huge improvement on the first. I think they will sell a ton of these. I wished they had put some more aggressive sole grinds on the cb (not the cbx) wedge instead of discontinuing. I think the cbx is a great idea, but there is still a void in the market with wedges that provide a bit more more size/confidence, but lots of versatility…

      Reply

      daviddvm

      5 years ago

      Nice article John?

      Sounds like I need to demo these wedges when they come out.

      Reply

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