First Look: Cleveland CBX Wedges
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First Look: Cleveland CBX Wedges

First Look: Cleveland CBX Wedges

If you play Game Improvement irons and don’t play Game Improvement wedges, Cleveland says you’re doing it wrong.

Wrong. Plain and simple.

Take a look at the bag drop the next time you play. What kind of irons do you see in those bags? Most likely it’s some variety of large, light, cavity backed, perimeter weighted Game Improvement iron – Cleveland says as many as 84% of you are bagging GIs.

Then check out the wedges.  Vokeys? Cleveland RTX’s? A set-matching Gap wedge?

Cleveland says 84% of you are doing that, and 84% of you are doing it wrong.

And Cleveland thinks it has a solution.

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Meet The CBX

“Blade wedges don’t make sense for the Game Improvement golfer,” says John Rae, Cleveland’s VP of Research and Development. “They’re significantly heavier, the shaping’s different, and it doesn’t have any of the Game Improvement features the iron set has.”

Set matching wedges, according to Cleveland, aren’t any better.

“Those wedges don’t have high-tech grooves or high-tech face roughness,” says Rae. “And to be totally honest, there’s very little thought put into their sole design by different manufacturers. In most cases, the Gap wedge is just slapped onto the end of the set. The Pitching wedge is basically your 10-iron, and the Gap is your 11-iron. They’re making a 4, 7 and pitching wedge and just extrapolating all the other lofts off those.”

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So if you’re a GI player, you likely have either blade wedges that aren’t as forgiving as and don’t match your irons, or you have set-matching wedges that don’t offer the requisite wedge-ness to do what you need to do from 100 yards and in.

Cleveland’s solution? The CBX Game Improvement wedge.

Now before you start crying nothing new here, yes, we know – and Cleveland knows – all about its previous cavity back wedges, including the RTX-3 CB option.

“If you go back in time, we did have cavity back wedges in our line – the CG 16, CG 14, CG 11. But the trap we fell in to was even though we were making cavity back wedges, they were still based on our better-player wedges. They were close in head size, the sole width was similar, and the total club weight was similar to a standard blade wedge.” – John Rae, Cleveland VP of R&D

Cleveland says the CBX has been designed from the ground up to be a true Game Improvement wedge. There are some tech stories you’ll want to consider, and we’ll get to those in a sec, but first, let’s review the visuals.

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The first thing you’ll notice is the good sized cavity that allows for more perimeter weighting. You’ll also notice even though the head is noticeably larger than, say, your standard RTX, Vokey or Mack Daddy, and the wedge itself is lighter. Flip this puppy over, and you’ll see a sole that starts out wide at the heel and gets significantly wider as you move from heel to toe.

Oddly, it doesn’t scream “shovel.”

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Tech Tales

The CBX wedge shares several features with Cleveland’s RTX-3 offering: Feel Balancing Technology, the V-Sole and Cleveland’s Rotex face. As mentioned earlier, CBX gets its GI on by modifying the V-Sole and with perimeter weighting.

The sole gets significantly wider as you transition from heel to toe. Cleveland says the shape will sacrifice some shot-making flexibility compared to a blade-style wedge, but it will help the GI player get the club through the turf and help with forgiveness.

Lower handicap golfers who want wedge flexibility, and have the skill to open up the face and pull off a variety of shots, probably won’t like or need the CBX sole. Mid-handicappers, says Rae, don’t open the face up as much and may need more help on full, square face shots.

“The wider sole isn’t as much of a negative for the mid- to high-handicap golfer, but it’s a big positive in that it helps them with the shots they hit most often. As the V gets narrower towards the heel, it allows you to open the face a little, but the wider sole isn’t great for the massive open-faced flop shot kind of thing. In reality, high handicappers won’t be trying that shot anyway.” – John Rae, Cleveland Golf

The modified V-Sole also helps with weight distribution and Cleveland’s Feel Balancing Technology, which is a fancy term for moving the club’s center of gravity away from the heel and more toward the center of the face.

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“A fundamental flaw in wedge design is that they have this big, long hosel,” says Rae. “As a result, you end up with a bunch of weight in the heel section, and the CG ends up being heel-biased.” Cleveland introduced Feel Balancing Technology in its RTX-3 wedges last year in an effort to move CG closer to face center (Vokey and Callaway were already heading in that direction). The CBX sole shape and cavity back allow Cleveland to get the CG almost dead center.

“When you get the center of gravity in the middle of the face, you’ll get only a little bit of performance drop off in terms of spin and distance if you hit it a little on the heel or on the toe,” says Rae. “If your CG is to the heel side, like a normal wedge, you’ll get more spin and distance if you hit it towards the heel, but as you move towards toe hits you’ll get a big decrease in performance.”

“A traditional wedge is much more inconsistent if you’re trying to hit the middle of the face. A little bit of a miss-heel or a miss-toe will have two radically different results. Better players tend to figure that out.  What we’re doing with CBX is giving that average golfer – the mid-handicapper – the most consistent performance across the face of a wedge he’s probably ever seen.” – John Rae, Cleveland Golf

Cleveland’s internal testing shows more consistent ball speeds heel to toe with CBX compared to a traditional blade wedge – the very definition of forgiveness – as well as tighter dispersion, compared to blade wedges and set-matching wedges.

Spin-wise, you won’t see much – if any – difference between the CBX wedge and Cleveland’s RTX-3’s. The CBX features Cleveland’s Rotex face, with Zip Grooves, Micro Milling, and Laser Milling. The stock shaft is the Dynamic Gold 115, which has the same step pattern and flex and bend properties as the standard Dynamic Gold but is lighter to better fit in with Game Improvement irons. That means you won’t have such a dramatic jump from a 90 to 100-gram shaft in your GI irons to a 130-gram shaft in your wedges.

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The CBX does have a taper-tip hosel, so in theory, nearly any shaft can be installed. Rae says you’ll be able to order custom option from Cleveland, but the target market probably isn’t thinking along those lines.

“Besides,” he says, “the heavier the shaft, the more you’re taking away from the purpose of the product.”

You’ll notice there aren’t a lot of bounce options with the CBX. Again, that’s intentional to make it easy for the target market.

“It’s a single finish and a single bounce option – basically mid-bounce,” says Rae. “We don’t want to confuse the average golfer by making the process so difficult that he just goes back and buys the set wedge or a blade wedge.”

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So Who’s It For?

CBX is meant to be a high-performance wedge designed to fit with Game Improvement iron sets. Is the golf world ready for that? Cleveland (and others) already has offerings for the high handicap golfers with its Smart Sole wedge offering, but will the middle of the bell curve want a CBX?

“It should be our biggest seller,” says Rae. “The only reason it wouldn’t be is the golfer. I think it’s going to take a few generations to really convince golfers they need to play a cavity back wedge.”

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Rae says the target market is any golfer with a handicap ranging anywhere from 8 to 10 up through 20. How you integrate CBX into your set depends on what your handicap is what it is.

“A lower handicapper who’s playing GI or Super GI irons may be the guy who’d switch out his pitching wedge he’s been using for a lot of bump and runs for ours. It’ll give him more spin and control with a better sole. He might want to take out his Gap wedge and replace it with one of these, but keep his blade style sand and lob wedge if he has the skill set and wants the versatility those offer.” John Rae, Cleveland Golf

A practice session with the CBX shows a few things. On full shots, this thing is as forgiving as advertised and is silly easy to hit, and distance control is fairly consistent compared to a blade wedge. The wider sole makes it pretty easy to pick it clean and hit down on the ball, but on the downside is you have limited ability to open the face up if you need to. But then again, that’s not what the wedge is designed for.

If you’re a chronic chili-dipper around the green and simply want to get the ball in the general direction of the hole, you may find a friend in the CBX. If you have the skill and short-game creativity to play high spinners, low rollers or anything in between, you’ll find the CBX a little limiting.

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The CBX wedge gives Cleveland the broadest short-game offering in the business – everything from the better-player suited RTX-3 all the way to the Smart Sole offering for the high handicapper. CBX sits right in the middle, where an awful lot of golfers – 84% of you – reside.

OEM’s are constantly trying to design equipment that packs in as much GI tech as possible while still looking like a golf club. The challenge facing Cleveland is the preconceived notion of what a wedge is supposed to look like. Visual familiarity equals comfort, and if golfers aren’t comfortable with the looks, they may never consider a club, even if it’s good for them.

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Price & Availability

Cleveland’s CBX wedges are available in men’s and women’s models. Men’s wedges are available in eight lofts in two-degree increments, ranging from 46 to 60 degrees. Stock shafts include the steel Dynamic Gold 115 wedge shaft and Cleveland’s 90 gram Rotex wedge shaft in graphite. Cleveland’s Lamkin BlueCap grip is standard.

Womens’ wedges are available in seven lofts (48 to 60 degrees), with Cleveland’s Women’s Action Ultralight 50 wedge flex shaft and Women’s CBX grip standard.

MSRP is $129.99 in steel, $139.99 in graphite. Pre-sale beings August 28th, and in store availability is September 15th.

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      Stevegp

      7 years ago

      Interesting design. I would like to read some feedback and reviews by golfers who play these wedges.

      Reply

      Kc

      7 years ago

      I play Cleveland 50, 54, 58 10 bounce wedges and am going to
      Try the 50 degree CBX for 100-110 approach shots

      Reply

      Matt Wiseley

      6 years ago

      KC,
      Wondering if you ever did switch out your 50* gap for one of these and if so, how are the results. I buy wedges every year and bought the RTX-3’s last year in 50,54,58. Thinking about just buying the 50 so wondering if you have any comments.
      let me know please

      Matt

      Reply

      Evan

      7 years ago

      Love the purpose of these, have GI irons that go to AW and find the RTX-3 CB I lose distance on but the current AW I lose spin. This seems to fit the bill of a AW replacement to better transition from my GI to it to 588 blade wedges.

      Reply

      George Krieger

      7 years ago

      These are the wedges I would like to help o. Your testing.
      As a Dave pelz disciple and graduate of his short game school, carry 4 [VOLEY] wedges
      48°,52°,56°and 60°.
      12 handicap, play 3 times a week
      Sign me up
      Thanks
      George Krieger

      Reply

      Eye4golf

      7 years ago

      This maybe just what I need. Own CB forged iron but blade wedges in 48,52,56,60, but with long hosel and heel geared sweet spot I tend the pull way to many wedges left. I look forward to trying these out as I feel they will save me 3-4 strokes around , play to a 9.9 hdcp

      Reply

      Augustine Fan

      7 years ago

      i find that unless you need to fly the ball all the way to the pin, use your PW instead and hit a partial shot. thats the real forgiveness you need. hitting a full wedge shot is hard no mater what.

      Reply

      Judd Golden

      7 years ago

      Alien wedges by Cleveland … nothing new

      Reply

      Alexander Roger

      7 years ago

      A V grind 60* wedge with a 10* bounce will be even more of a problem for beginning players. Trying to loft a shot and having the sole hard angled to a fairway will just create more miss hits. I would only use this in a bunker or buried rough…

      Reply

      Alexander Roger

      7 years ago

      Beginning players have the tendency to strike behind the ball (impacting the ground first). Having a high bounce degree and a V grind will only make the club kick higher when the club impacts the ground creating more bladed shots. In your iron set all your clubs from 5 to 2 will have bounce degrees from 2* to -2* to keep the sole more flush with the ground at ball contact, enhancing forgiveness… I recommend Titliest “L” grind wedges. V grinded soles are for more direct ball strikers and are best for play on very plush conditions.

      Reply

      Bob

      7 years ago

      Alexander,

      I’m sure the R&D department at Cleveland knows far better than you what works. You sound like the typical 10 handicap who gives his golf buddies swing advice on the 3rd tee box.

      Reply

      Markus Viljanen

      7 years ago

      Pretty smart IMO

      Reply

      Clay

      7 years ago

      I play in south Louisiana where at least six months of the year the fairways are hard as rock. I have always found that if any club I hit from the fairway is beveled or “V” shaped the club will too often bounce into the ball causing a thin shot. These new Cleveland wedges appear to me to be the last thing needed to play from hardpan. I’ll pass.

      Reply

      Dave Sanguinetti

      7 years ago

      Methusala taught me to play with a stick, a shovel, a syckel, and a spoon!!! These sissies need lessons, you should play wedge shots with your Iron Will, Hercules did, Seve did!!! Comments are hilarious and most golfers are stupidly egotistical. Your fellow players don’t care what you are doing because they are so focused on what they are doing- ANYTHING that helps YOU play better, and hence enjoy a round of golf more, and hopefully lowers your score, should be on the table to try. Don’t listen to some JACKASS who tells you that Seve could get out of a bunker with a 2 iron ” he’s not Seve and neither are you. Try something, who knows, you might like it.

      Reply

      Bob

      7 years ago

      I think most of you are missing the point of this wedge. Cleveland certainly didn’t design it for the golf blog geeks who feel like they are only a real golfer if they have the latest blades and the most used iron shaft on tour.

      Instead think about the vast majority of golfers who are high handicappers and do not have a huge preference in what they play. This is an extremely logical fit for them.

      When these people walk into a golf store they have always had the choice of a steel blade, a steel blade, or a steel blade. Now they can play a cavity back with a lighter steel, graphite, or ladies shaft. They can also still buy the steel blade.

      Cleveland got this right. The majority of golfers aren’t on sites like this. And they often have awful short games. Kudos to Cleveland for thinking outside the box to help these players!

      Reply

      Angel Matos

      7 years ago

      I used Vokey for many years. 3 years ago changed to Mizuno JPX wedges & never looked back. Big difference as you age.

      Reply

      Robert Hwang

      7 years ago

      What are game improvement clubs?

      Reply

      Alexander Swartz

      7 years ago

      Clubs that are general geared towards distance, forgiveness, and are generally thicker and longer.

      Reply

      Mike Wales

      7 years ago

      I really like the idea of one of these wedges for a pitching wedge instead of using the one in the iron sets. They are right that most wedges within the sets aren’t really thought of as “wedges.” They are more irons than they are wedges. I do also agree that these don’t look the friendliest on opening up the face around the greens. I like the versatility of a wedge around the greens rather than just hitting it with a square face. I would still give these a try to see how they feel and compare, but unless it’s a pitching wedge I don’t see myself gaming these immediately.

      Reply

      Kenny B

      7 years ago

      What’s the advantage of heads being less heavy than other wedges? I thought that heavier weighted wedges helped everyone. I can understand moving weight out of the hosel to be more perimeter-weighted, but less weight??

      I do think a full set of irons like these wedges would make nice GI irons.

      Reply

      Snowman

      7 years ago

      6 handicap and I play cavity back irons and the cleveland RTX 588 cavity back wedges; Seems like a good concept to me. I will be checking these out.

      Reply

      Raymond CHASTEL

      7 years ago

      I feel strongly this sales pitch for the CLEVELAND wedges with huge bounces is misleading .I hate these enormous bounces .I have a set of HONMA BERES irons with the 9 ,10 and 11 irons (yes, Sir!).They have minimal bounces and I get out of the sand traps very easily with them . I was taught to play with all these irons by opening more or less the clubface and it does work.Just look up the videos from SEVE BALLESTEROS :he would get out of sand traps ,even deep ,with any kind of iron and put a lot of spin to the ball.
      What it takes of of course is quite some practice time !
      Raymond CHASTEL,age 83 ,7 handicap

      Reply

      Tim Dotson

      7 years ago

      Interesting to say the least, might have to try a Gap wedge to see how it works. Don’t think I can give up the ability to open up my lob wedge though

      Reply

      McaseyM

      7 years ago

      I’m intrigued. I do like my blade wedges, but I play GI irons and like the look of theses and not gonna lie that i could use help on my short game. Any idea if they’re bendable? I like my wedge at 50, 55 and 60 ( though I’ll admit that i probably would really notice much difference of 1 degree) Wonder if XXIO/Srixon/Cleveland will start marketing iron sets as 4/5-9, and then 4 wedge sets based on loft?

      Reply

      strokerAce

      7 years ago

      Out of curiosity – on full shots – were you able to manipulate the flight of the ball – i.e. fade/draw it into your target?

      The CG thing has me really intrigued. I didn’t realize that the center of gravity wasn’t primarily in the center of the club for ‘better player’ wedges…

      Reply

      Steve S

      7 years ago

      Not sure I buy any of this. I have had wedges from Maltby’s super wide sole to Vokey’s and everything in between. My problem with wedges is usually deceleration into the shot…not bounce, mass, etc. This is usually when I have less than half swing shots. None of the changes in wedges has helped this issue. What has helped is my attitude. I now try to hit these shots with “no fear”. If I’m long, I’m long….

      Reply

      Rob

      7 years ago

      Can we see a picture of what they look like at address?

      Reply

      Hula_Rock

      7 years ago

      You can see it on the Cleveland golf website (pic of address)…

      Reply

      Hula_Rock

      7 years ago

      Riddle me this, Thought the RTX-3 CB was built for this purpose. I added the 52 CB V-MG to my bag and couldn’t be happier. Best of both world……No ?

      Reply

      Carolina Golfer 2

      7 years ago

      Have you had a chance to hit the 60 off tighter lies around the green. Curious if the 10 degree bounce is low enough for shots like that. Or maybe that’s what Rae meant when he said the whole line is basically a mid bounce line, to keep it simple.

      I’m intrigued enough to try a 60 degree as that is a loft i have been considering adding.

      Reply

      KM

      7 years ago

      Well if you cant hit a wedge then maybe take up bowling…

      Reply

      Art

      7 years ago

      Brilliant idea KM! Let’s take it one step more–if you aren’t a 5 index or better, get another hobby! Let’s take the 20 million golfers arcross the country and drive them out of the sport, turn that number into 500k. And of course we can’t have newbies. They certainly cannot hit a wedge. Eventually this stupid game will die off, along with all industries involved. KM, YOU GENIUS!!

      robin

      7 years ago

      KM is trying to say is the wedge is the easiest club to hit.

      Art

      7 years ago

      Robin, thank you for knowing what someone else meant. Can you tell us why he thought it was important to say what he did?

      Carolina Golfer 2

      7 years ago

      Art: No worries, I believe I know who the above poster above is, and it was a personal dig. As usual he has nothing of value to contribute, just likes trolling.

      @Robin…don’t automatically assume to know what anonymous people on the internet mean…it can be pretty funny at time..ha

      Reply

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