First Look – TaylorMade M CGB Irons
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First Look – TaylorMade M CGB Irons

First Look – TaylorMade M CGB Irons

At the start of October TaylorMade and Adidas will finally split. No longer having the German giant behind them will either make or break the originators of the metal wood. Some jobs have been lost, others have been created. It’s a time of change for them as they aim to get back on top of Callaway and translate their considerable tour success back to the dominant retail position they were in only a few years ago.

It’s a real opportunity to break free and start fresh for TaylorMade. And with the recent P790 irons, I think TaylorMade has a flagship iron they can happily hang their hat on. Can the same be said for their new Super Game Improvement M CGB? With the tag line like a bag full of drivers it’s a set being sold on that old chestnut; longer distance.

A set of muscle back irons like the P730 look amazing, but they won’t sell in any significant numbers. However, they do project an image that most golfers aspire to. The P790 irons are modern, and I hate to say it – sexy – and have a broad appeal, yet it’s still an iron targeted at that the better player. Realistically it will always be a set of chopper big bats that perform that will guarantee sales, and that’s where the new M CGB irons sit in the 2018 TaylorMade’s lineup.

TaylorMade has pretty much taken every technology used on its irons over the last decade and thrown it all at M CGB. It’s the golf club equivalent of a greatest hits album.

There’s the fluted hosel from the 2015 M2 irons to save weight in the heel of the club where it can be a hindrance. There’s a speed pocket first Introduced in the 2012 RocketBladez. Don’t get me wrong, they’ve refined it over the years, but it’s still a pocket on the sole of the club that allows the face to flex and retain ball speed on shots hit thin.

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The face slots make an appearance from the 2014 RSI irons, designed to retain ball speed on shots hit towards the heel and toe of the club. Tungsten weights on the heel and toe first made an appearance back in the 2008 R7 CGB irons as did the hollow undercut topline, and they move the Center of Gravity Back (CGB) to get that launch up without significantly increasing spin rates.

Plus, they’ve still got Inverted Cone Tech, TaylorMade’s response to variable face thickness that has been around since the iconic R500 driver series from 2002. It’s another way to spread out ball speed across the face for longer mishits. This time it has been moved towards the toe of the club to where it can help add a little extra ball speed in the target golfers most likely spot to mishit their shot from.

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Even back in 2008, TaylorMade was using milled 455 stainless steel faces, while now they are using a cast construction. Is it a backward step? Maybe, maybe not, it certainly doesn’t sound as interesting. The face thickness is under 2mm thick. That combined with the speed pockets, the face slots, and the ICT, and TaylorMade is calling this its hottest set of irons ever. And unlike most sets, all this technology is featured in every iron, from the 4 to the PW.

TaylorMade has repurposed their recent Geocoustic term again, this time in reference to the badge in the cavity. While the word might annoy me, and I like my clubs to look clean, I also understand clubs need some shelf appeal. TaylorMade calls it an ultra stiff 3D sound management badge with a soft Hybrar damper. After hitting them, I can say that they aren’t as clicky as other super game improvement irons, but that’s not to say it’s the satisfying solid squash a PXG gives you. And while the M2 lime green isn’t for everyone, this iron with its safe red and black badge, is less polarizing cosmetically.

At address, these irons look like just about every game improvement iron that TaylorMade and Callaway have made since the X12’s. It’s a tried and tested look, and for the Super Game Improvement category. They look decent behind the ball…perhaps I’m just getting old and starting to realize I need more help.

Tony Covey wrote just the other day that Callaway’s next push would be clubs targeted at an older demographic, and although it was never expressly communicated, I think it’s fair to say these apply to that category. The stock shafts are lightweight, soft-tipped Nippon NS Pro 840 steel while the graphite options are UST Recoil 460 ES. These aim in both cases is to regain some clubhead speed.

The CGB should prove popular for players often looking to carry the ball farther, and that means older golfers. And where irons like the M2 have ridiculously low lofted 19 degree four iron, the long irons in M CGB set have been dialed back a bit. The four iron still strong, but less, so 20.5 degrees. The company claims these offer the highest peak heights of any TaylorMade set since 2012 (when lofts would have been significantly weaker). They hit the ball high and far, and are around 15% more forgiving than an M2.

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It would be hard to argue that the M CGB irons offer anything new. That’s not to say they don’t work well and do what they are intended to. Head to head in stock unfitted specs, the 8- iron was flying 10 yards further than a P790 8-iron, while producing a higher flight and more spin. That’s exactly what it was designed to do.

Beyond performance, what they do is fill out a large space in the TaylorMade line up. These are super game improvement irons, designed to make even the M2 look difficult to hit. While we are all for keeping iron line-ups simple, how can you compete for sales when you don’t have a dog in the fight? XXIO, Cobra’s new FMax range and PXG with its 0311XF are just three examples of clubs competing in this segment. Where Titleist recent six iron launch with five sets off irons targeted at the better player might be overkill, this is a set of irons that TaylorMade needed to bring to market. It’s just a bit of a shame they are an evolution and not a revolution.

Specs, Pricing, and Availability

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Retail availability begins 9/29. Retail price is $1,199.99 for steel and $1,399.99 for graphite.

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      Spartacus McDuff

      7 years ago

      Seriously?!! How many new sets is that TM have brought out in the last three months? They must be pushing close to fifty sets in the last ten years – no one’s R&D people can produce genuinely innovative products at that rate. It’s becoming farcical.

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      Trop

      7 years ago

      My index fluctuates from a ~6 to a ~7 from month to month. I can say as a mid single-digit handicap that I LOVED the TM 08 CGB Max irons and gamed them for 8 years. I tried several times to go in a different direction but NOTHING out there ever came along that was easier or more fun to hit. The JPX 900s came very close but the performance was too similar to my CGBs so I stayed with them. I finally found the Callaway Apex 16s which pulled me away from TM CGB after all these years. Surprisingly the Apex 16s were even a few yards longer than CGB and in a smaller profile which was nice. But now that I see these new CGBs with all the best tech from the past decade I am very tempted to buy these to game on more difficult courses. My shots were always high and long and stopped within four feet of my ball mark every time. I NEVER had a concern of my ball holding a green and can’t remember once that it didn’t when it should have. If these CGBs end up being better than the 08s then I’d say you absolutely cannot go wrong as a high handicapper (or even as low one). I’ll pair these with some Nippon Super Peening Blues’ and have one hell of a set up!!! If I had one negative thing to say about the CGBs as a lower handicap it would be the large offset which isn’t necessary for good ball strikers (too much draw bias).

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      Jon Vanhala

      7 years ago

      truly do not like the look.

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      Toad

      7 years ago

      Great review… can’t wait to hit them.

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      Darryll Turner

      7 years ago

      Ping all the way
      Just prefer the craftsmanship and feel the Ping always deliver

      Reply

      Stephen Boub

      7 years ago

      PXG⛳ IS FOR ME

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      Jorge Ventus

      7 years ago

      Mizuno’s for me ⛳

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      VMAZZ

      7 years ago

      This is why I don’t anything Taylormade. They come out the next great thing (supposedly) every 3-4 months it seems. These look like recycles R7’s I believe. You buy something and next thing you know is you feel like they are obsolete!

      Give me Callaway Apex any day.

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      dandaman

      7 years ago

      I agree Aidan, I think some are unfairly comparing these to an iron set geared for a completely different demographic. IMO TM had to release something like this after Callaway had so much success selling those ‘hideous SGI shovels’ aka Big Bertha Irons. I believe those may have been one of the top selling iron lines so there is a market for this release and it would be foolish for TM to ignore it.

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      Tom Tryhane

      7 years ago

      Do you remember this iron? They should be embarrassed by the crap they try to sell. Stick with Mizuno or Titleist.

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      xjohnx

      7 years ago

      Would love some honest marketing with all these new distance irons.

      “Hit it two clubs longer so you kick your hybrid out of the bag and buy even more wedges. Hit the ball longer with less spin and hold less greens.”

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      Ricky Bowman

      7 years ago

      These lofts are the Tournament lofts when I qualified as a PGA Professional in 1977, starting with the 3 iron and finishing with the S iron. My set was Jack Nicklaus + by Slazenger.
      22 deg., then 26, 30, 34, 38, 42, 46, 50, 55.
      Quite a difference now

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      Sergio Castaño

      7 years ago

      That Is why millions of people like me do not give a shit about lofts or anything else related to technical stuff. We just go and hit the ball with what we have and have a great time. Just kidding folks. Relax!!!!

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      Jorge Ventus

      7 years ago

      #nothingfeelslikeamizuno

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      Robert Wif Smith

      7 years ago

      Mizuno all day long no doubt about it ,they don’t need to pay players loads or spend loads of advertise because they are pure quality clubs…

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      Robert Cotterill

      7 years ago

      Still love my Titleist Ap2’s

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      Josh Hubbard

      7 years ago

      Way to bulky for me but they look bad ass.

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      Will

      7 years ago

      Looks like Optimus Primes fingernails.

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      Nick Green

      7 years ago

      Wonder if PXG had a patent for their design? Go get em PXG!

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      Bret Newmiller

      7 years ago

      They had a similar club with the same weights about 10yrs ago. No new ideas so go back to when they had some good engineering

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      Albert Eng

      7 years ago

      Same old selling point, more forgiving and longer than last years model. New owners with the same shit!

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      Tyler Neeles

      7 years ago

      Those are hideous

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      Ardbeggar

      7 years ago

      Franken-club.

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      dang3rtown

      7 years ago

      By God… THEY’RE HIDEOUS!!!

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      Paul Gerencher

      7 years ago

      Oh my… they may be the ugliest things I have ever seen

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      Miguel Dabu

      7 years ago

      The face slots from the prior irons that had them, kept on caving in right? Wonder how these will perform.

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      Dan Rubock

      7 years ago

      These dumbass low-spin distance irons will turn newbies off golf! They’ll hit greens but never see it stick…and get frustrated. More so

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      Josh Hubbard

      7 years ago

      Tjese types of clubs are not ment for pair that are going to produce back spin anyways.

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      Carlos Mosquera Alejo

      7 years ago

      The r7….lol

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      Geoff Morrison

      7 years ago

      Burners with visible weight ports.

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      Kevin Downey

      7 years ago

      At some point folks are going to figure out that all these distance clubs don’t stop on greens. Why does it seem like Taylormade is going back to the throw everything at the wall and see what sticks approach to their product releases this year?

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      johnny cowboy

      7 years ago

      Don’t assume that everyone who hits these can’t put spin on the ball. I play AP1 and I suffer from too much spin. Spin is caused by the D plane so theoretically you could put more spin on the ball using these than you could with a forged blade iron.

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      Lance Ferguson

      7 years ago

      And this is why I play Mizuno.

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      Scott Allen

      7 years ago

      Dam, those are fugly!!

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      Sergio Sotelo

      7 years ago

      Ugly! !!!!

      Reply

      Bryan

      7 years ago

      I would love to get my hands on these and see how they can improve my game as I am a higher handicap.

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      Stan

      7 years ago

      Try Mizuno JPX 900 Hot Metal instead – completly changed my game.

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      Arnie Kourtjian

      7 years ago

      Looks like PXG knock offs..smh

      Reply

      John Nolan

      7 years ago

      Needs more screws

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      Jeff Brennan

      7 years ago

      Look at those SHOVELS…

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      Carolina Golfer 2

      7 years ago

      “TaylorMade has pretty much taken every technology used on its irons over the last decade and thrown it all at M CGB. It’s the golf club equivalent of a greatest hits album.”

      This quote from the article summed up perfectly what I thought when I first saw the iron. Every bit of technology, i was like, “oh, that’s from the Rocketbladez, oh and that’s from RSi.”

      And yet, I find myself very intrigued by these.

      I can’t help and shake my head at the people who throw out the same old tired line…Oh, they are nothing but jacked lofts. Obviously, they haven’t read many of the MGS Pieces or others for that matter on the need for lower lofts with the movement of CG. it’s a easy and lazy criticism.

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      Shadow

      7 years ago

      I thought the same, like wow speed slot copied from Wilson Staff who introduced them back in the 80’s. Micro weights, like how Grindworks already have been doing with their Nidaime Irons (at least you can change the weights in their irons).

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      Evan

      7 years ago

      What is interesting is that the lofts on these are the same as the M1s, which are 1 degree weaker than the M2s. So while yes the lofts are ‘jacked’ (even though there is a reason they’ve done this to counter other issues), however they have decided to weaken these.

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      Paul Moss

      7 years ago

      Fugly.

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      Zein Eldin

      7 years ago

      The ugliness :o

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      Christian Furu

      7 years ago

      Strong loft is not what people need to look at. In my opinion low spin numbers is the big issue with distance irons. Looking forward to seeing what the CGB delivers.

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      Tony Sheppard

      7 years ago

      I saw one review of these irons with a 7 iron. Averaged 6500 spin. Thats pretty good for any iron.

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      Christian Furu

      7 years ago

      Tony Sheppard 6500 is actually good. I agree. Yes – they are ugly ?

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      Pablo Castaño

      7 years ago

      Low spin is definitely a problem if the irons don’t launch high enough and land at steep enough angles, so luckily most of these irons also launch higher. But when you get to the long irons with super low lofts, no amount of launch will help the average golfer with clubs like these unless they produce enough ballspeed to justify anything above a 5 or 6 iron in these sets.

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      Christian Furu

      7 years ago

      Pablo Castaño The could just buy 7-PW and save some money :) Add a #5 hybrid and you’re done?

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      Pablo Castaño

      7 years ago

      That’s exactly what most golfers should probably do if they’re looking for performance alone (some golfers might prefer using long irons despite performance differences). And I think more golfers are using hybrids for the longer clubs, even going down to the mid irons. Although I just read the article and saw the stock lofts and shafts, so those made me think that these irons might be a little better for spin and launch than some other similar irons. Still though, hybrids will be that bit more forgiving than even these new TM long irons.

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      Christian Furu

      7 years ago

      Pablo Castaño The worst – in my opinion – is the Steelhead irons. Maybe CGB can perform better. I found the video of a guy hitting a CGB 7i 200m carry with around 6500 spin. Think about how much money you could save by not getting 4-6i. Higher cost of irons = golfers carrying fewer clubs? It’s not like an amateur is getting decent gapping between every club in a 4-P set.

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      Scotty Michaels

      7 years ago

      R7 CGB Remakes????

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      Joseph Gabriel

      7 years ago

      Crazy offset, Jacked up lofts, Shovel soles, slots yet another gimmick iron set from TM

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      Carson Joens

      7 years ago

      29.5 degree 7iron??? Maybe they meant 5 iron, that’s ridiculous. If they have to jack up lofts that much something is clearly off.

      Reply

      Tony Sheppard

      7 years ago

      Most irons in this category are stronger than that. They actually weakened the lofts on these irons compared to other game improvement models.

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      Chris Mooney

      7 years ago

      Tony Sheppard correct..Titleist ap1’s are 30 degree 7 iron… but these aren’t for people who hit 7 150* are they? ….

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      Pablo Castaño

      7 years ago

      My current 5 iron has a measured loft of 28* (because it’s an old af blade), so this 7 iron and my 5 iron would probably be close in distance. That isn’t necessarily a problem as long as these irons actually help golfers, which is always debatable. But it’s just crazy how lofts have changed in a matter of a couple of decades, or even in 1 decade ?

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      Pablo Castaño

      7 years ago

      Even the blades are 1-2* stronger, but then again blade technology has improved ever so slightly compared to old blades (like my 90s blades).

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      OH

      7 years ago

      I think TM nailed it with the P700 series across the board. That said, these are absolutely hideous.

      Reply

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