First Look – TaylorMade P790 Irons
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First Look – TaylorMade P790 Irons

First Look – TaylorMade P790 Irons

TaylorMade’s release of the P790 irons marks its entry into the forged distance category, and with that comes inevitable comparisons to existing models – Callaway Apex CF 16, Epon 503, and most notably, PXG’s 0311 series.

The P790 brings hollow-body construction, a thin face, and a new proprietary polyurethane filling called SpeedFoam (it’s foam, and it’s fast – TaylorMade does not have all the best words) all wrapped up in a compact, player-oriented package.

It’s a story that may sounds familiar, and it’s no doubt is raising some eyebrows at PXG as well. Similar isn’t the same, but it’s worth mentioning that PXG believed its patents were broad enough to guarantee it would be 20 years before we saw anything similar. It took TaylorMade two and a half.

P790 Technology

Like other OEM’s, the goal of a forged distance iron is to retain a shape and aesthetic preferred by better players while leveraging thinner faces to produce more ball speed (and thus more distance).

To that end, the P790 melds a 1.75 mm thick face (3-7 iron) made from 4140 forged carbon steel with an 8620 carbon steel body. By comparison, PXG’s 0311 irons have a face thickness of 1.47 mm.

As with many other recent TaylorMade offerings, the P790 3-7 irons offer a speed slot (but no face slots), purportedly to help increase ball speed on thin shots.

As is typical, where loft becomes the dominant contributor to distance (the 8-PW) no slot is needed. In those short irons, the face is thicker and the hosel longer to help raise the CG and provide more control over trajectory and shot shape.

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SpeedFoam

The complex construction of a hollow-body iron leaves a literal void to be filled. Because feel is so subjective, it’s hard to assess whether the dampening effect of the SpeedFoam insert will be praised or loathed. Some OEM’s are trying to remove or dampen feel (as is often the trade-off with hollow-body irons) while others (Mizuno) are working to refine and enhance the feel at impact. That said, experience would suggest the P790 won’t feel the same as a one-piece forged blade or players CB. Whether that’s a good different will certainly be the topic of some discussion.

The SpeedFoam name itself is pure RBZ-era cheese, and we’d hope TaylorMade was aware of Dial’s identically named body wash. FYI, it offers odor-controlling benefits that the irons almost certainly don’t.

Normally the kind of thing that’s just good enough for a few laughs, the moniker is especially curious given that TaylorMade has been actively attempting to restore the authenticity of its brand after a run of questionable product nomenclature (JetSpeed anyone?) and a drop in market share. Old habits die hard, I suppose. At least the name is memorable and, like its namesake body wash, perhaps the consumer will find it refreshing.

Continued Refined

Compared with previous generations of irons, TaylorMade’s focus on producing a good-looking iron (by anyone’s definition) appears to be paying off. The aesthetic refinement which TaylorMade started with the “P” series (P770, P750) irons last year takes another step forward in the P790 series. The lines are bold, yet clean, and the entire package continues TaylorMade’s push towards more refined irons. The result is a look which is both uniquely TaylorMade and entirely classy – even with the inclusion of SpeedFoam.

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A Growing Segment

The increasing prevalence of forged distance irons across the industry is noteworthy for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is it continues to validate the existence of this market contingent; the modern version of which was uncovered and exposed by PXG.

We termed this the PXG Effect.

Considering the direction of TaylorMade’s iron releases, what do you think? Are they on to something unique or is the P790 just diet PXG?

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Pricing and Availability

The P790 ($1300 for a set of 8) comes stock with Dynamic Gold 105 shafts and will be available the same date as Mizuno’s MP-18 series, September 15th.

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      Walt

      6 years ago

      I hit these irons with the True Temper 105 shaft and found that the ball
      goes a club further than my i20’s but there is a big difference in the loft. The ball flight was much higher with more spin. Its an attractive irin with nice feel but would likely require changing the lofts of all the wedges.

      Reply

      Larry

      7 years ago

      Hit the 790s a week ago – clearly 1 1/2 to 2 clubs longer than my r9TP “B” irons, and more forgiving. Sound / feel very different. Didn’t care for the thicker top line. But overall certainly worth considering!

      Reply

      John Quinn

      7 years ago

      Now that you look at it PXG players have taken a tumble in statistics and standing since switching clubs.

      Reply

      Dayners81 Huber

      7 years ago

      I ‘ve seen some the TM guys testing what looks like the 790s with UDI stamped on the toe. Anyone know if these are just the 790 long irons or are they going to release a similar shaped UDI replacement?

      Reply

      Mike

      7 years ago

      A little Japanese co. In the early 90’s had foam filled irons, tungsten weights, thin faces, utility type clubs and nobody gave them a look except for The advanced thinking retailers.

      Reply

      xjohnx

      7 years ago

      Whether you’re for them or against them, no one brings out more idiots pissing on eachother than TaylorMade. They may no longer be the #1 in Woods, Irons etc. in sales but, at least they can claim this.

      Reply

      Mike Ward

      7 years ago

      TM irons. Not rich enough to afford Calloways!

      Reply

      Adam Cortina

      7 years ago

      Wait………… I have these irons. Smaller profile, less offset, forged, tungsten, long and forgiving as all hell, without the jacked up lofts……. Adams XTD Forged?

      Reply

      Sharkhark

      7 years ago

      Really? The main feature of pxg and these taylormade is the hollow ultra thin face? Filled with foam in the interior.
      Your adams features that? Really? A million irons have Tungsten and low profile etc etc.
      It’s that specific feature that sets them apart.

      Reply

      HanselandGretel

      7 years ago

      http://www.golfwrx.com/194269/review-adams-xtd-forged-irons/

      I have the Adams xtd forged too. Over 3 years old now. Players irons with the forgiveness. Floating face filled with that plastic whatever they fill in there. Best irons nobody’s heard of that i’ve ever played. Looking to get another set before i can’t get them anymore.

      Scott Cronin

      7 years ago

      If my memory serves me TM has done this before. Remember the ICW5?

      Reply

      Scott Cronin

      7 years ago

      Here is the icw11 foam filled l.

      Reply

      John Connolly

      7 years ago

      Was going to post that exact thing….still have mine…..junk

      Reply

      Sean Nicely

      7 years ago

      They look like Titleist C16 irons from over a year ago

      Reply

      Todd Gullickson

      7 years ago

      Who cares! Get fitted, buy what is recommended, and enjoy the f*cken game. Who gives a sh*t about the latest and greatest…what he or she is playing. All these marketing scams are for the birds, or should I say bogeys! Lmao

      Reply

      Justin Gaunt

      6 years ago

      I love the comment and oh soo true.

      I play Mizuno (true) blades from forever ago, TM R1tp driver, Callaway steel head 3 wood also sometimes carry a 4 wood from the same gen but cut down to hybrid length with a steel shaft, TM 26* hybrid, vokey wedges and a putter I won in a raffle.

      Never have I purchased a brand new club and collectively I couldn’t even begin to tell you how old they are.

      I beat people all day with the latest and greatest and oh ya have more fun!!!!!!

      Reply

      Danny Dillon

      7 years ago

      Wilson Staff has the best irons hands down.

      Reply

      Danny Dillon

      7 years ago

      Reminds me of the old Taylor made burner irons.

      Reply

      Daz Lethlean

      7 years ago

      I forget, r u a Taylormade brand golfer!!!

      Reply

      Dave Snyder

      7 years ago

      Adams XTD were the first ones like this right?

      Reply

      Taylor Made

      7 years ago

      For the price of PXGs, if they aren’t able to cook, clean, pour beers and make birdies, you’re definitely getting ripped off…

      Reply

      Jake Andrajack

      7 years ago

      So? Who cares? PXG is a literal overpriced hunk of metal. At least these are “reasonably” priced. I’ll save for a year and buy a set for half of what they cost now.

      Reply

      Randy Nelson

      7 years ago

      Beautiful !!!

      Reply

      Kenny Duff

      7 years ago

      Everything is a remix

      Reply

      Tom Duckworth

      7 years ago

      They look good, well pretty good anyway. We will see more and more of this type of design from almost everyone. I will try them don’t know if I would buy them but TM is trying to make some good irons.
      I like that they are not like M1, M2 ans Epic irons in the looks department.
      This just makes too much sense a hollow design lets you hide all the tech under the hood. There will be refinements of this idea going forward. It gives all kinds of freedom to do things with the face and weight inside the club and it can all be in a pretty package.

      Reply

      Mike Ward

      7 years ago

      Maybe not but they’re worth a demo…..?

      Reply

      Wayne Tait

      7 years ago

      TM brought Adams Golf, as it was cheaper than the lawsuit for stealing there patent undercut wood technology. Then ran it into the ground, destroying a good product. Still the best hybrids

      Reply

      Geoff

      7 years ago

      I agree 100%… still game the XTDs

      Reply

      Ben Guy

      7 years ago

      Rip off in regards to a type of foam insert !!!

      Reply

      Steve Liddicoat

      7 years ago

      TM was filling blades with foam before Bob Parsons even founded Go Daddy.. Not a rip off of PXG at all.

      Reply

      Gregory Doore

      7 years ago

      I don’t see any screws…

      Reply

      Hugh Faulkner

      7 years ago

      Miura

      Reply

      Jeff Phelps

      7 years ago

      Best quality irons forged! Mb-001

      Reply

      Adam Voigt

      7 years ago

      Looks nothing like pxg

      Reply

      Andy Mickelson

      7 years ago

      Poor choice of words in saying ripoff. Spending 3Gs on pretty pings is a ripoff. These are half that so wouldn’t that be a value?

      Reply

      Cace Smith

      7 years ago

      A lot of TM hate in here but in think this P series are some of the best looking irons they’ve launched in recent years. I really like the feel of the P770 and I’m interested to give these a hit when they come to retail.

      Reply

      Alexander Swartz

      7 years ago

      P770 has been in retail for a while. I play them

      Reply

      Cace Smith

      7 years ago

      Alexander Swartz yup was talking about the P790 irons

      Reply

      Shane Coy

      7 years ago

      Show those pretty 730s. I finally can swap my MBs out.

      Reply

      Scott Bryde

      7 years ago

      Let’s not forget that Titleist has also been making a full set of hollow body irons since 2015 with their 716 TMB irons and the new 718 TMBs. To suggest that Taylor Made is first to challenge PXG irons is a little short-sighted.

      Reply

      Tony Covey

      7 years ago

      It’s not about the hollow body. There have been hollow body designs for years. Everybody has a hollow body design. It’s about a hollow body filled with elastomer, or in TM’s case polyurethane to support and provide a trampoline effect to a face so thin that it would otherwise collapse without the supporting material. It’s not the cavity, it’s what’s inside of it and how that impacts what manufacturers can do with respect to face thickness.

      Reply

      Bob Gomavitz

      7 years ago

      I like to call it, New, or Something that we have seen before.

      Reply

      Chris M.

      7 years ago

      I look forward to seeing how they test in the next Most Wanted. If they’re a less expensive PXG option, then they might be worth a try. MP18 is still tops of my try list though.

      Reply

      Brad

      7 years ago

      I love my P-750s. They are the first set of Taylormade irons I have ever owned. The P-790s look great. I also like how they took a shot at PXG by saying TPE is too firm to allow trampoline effect.

      Reply

      Angel Almeida

      7 years ago

      I would still buy a set of Mizuno or Hogan blades before these….

      Reply

      Paul Taylor

      7 years ago

      Well considering PXG only is private fitting and costs over 2k for 1 club it seems is say if it’s a rip off least people can spend less and get more…

      Reply

      Kenneth Lee

      7 years ago

      3 years ago, I switched from Taylormade to Callaway. Last I switched to Mizuno. This week I bought Ping. I will play both the Mizuno & Ping but Taylormade is no longer in my radar. These clubs don’t even look good. We all know why some of the pros have switched to Taylormade – $$$!!!

      Reply

      Kenneth Lee

      7 years ago

      PXG are very good clubs, just too darn expensive

      Reply

      Jeff Phelps

      7 years ago

      Sticking with my Epic’s!

      Reply

      Brandon Wooley

      7 years ago

      Taylormade has never made a good looking iron.

      Reply

      Seve Ticklesteros

      7 years ago

      really? 300 forged?

      Reply

      Brandon Wooley

      7 years ago

      Pretty much a run of the mill forged cavity back. Nothing eye catching or remarkable about it.

      Reply

      Andy Mickelson

      7 years ago

      I can name 10. 2005 TP Forged. 2006-2008 TPMB, 2014 TP MB, P750, P770, R9 B stamp…tell me when to stop.

      Reply

      Dayners81 Huber

      7 years ago

      The rac CB satins and the RAC combos were both sick irons also. I wore out the groves on my combos
      Those were the first set of clubs that came with a SW shaped PW. I haven’t played a regular shaped PW since

      Matt Heister

      7 years ago

      Andy Mickelson bingo. RAC TP smoke were unreal!

      Reply

      Golf4lefties

      7 years ago

      I do like the overall look of these irons minus the speed slot. Technology advances wouldn’t happen if company’s didn’t expand on others ideas.

      Reply

      Ray Grehofsky

      7 years ago

      Philip Pirrip this remind you of an oldie but goodie Taylor iron?

      Reply

      Tomek Wrona

      7 years ago

      Speed slot/ hollow face/tungsten, they have all the gimmicks $$$$$$Not spent well

      Reply

      CJ Werley

      7 years ago

      Isn’t it all a ripoff of the 681s?

      Reply

      Moshe Berdugo

      7 years ago

      Mizuno is king

      Reply

      Caleb Ross

      7 years ago

      Facts I don’t think I’ll buy any other irons

      Reply

      Tomek Wrona

      7 years ago

      They suck….not original ….way overpriced

      Reply

      Scott Goldman

      7 years ago

      Not sure Callaway Apex apply here. Titleist TM-B and Mizuno MP H5’s do however. Too much credit going to PXG. Like comparing McLaren to BMW and Mercedes. Think a M3 with P-1 exhaust technology is going to matter to McLaren? Seems to be a new popular iron segment much like when the cavity back was introduced. Everyone is doing it. I’m glad. The more choices the better for us consumers. Especially when half the price of some others in this segment.

      Reply

      Chris Nickel

      7 years ago

      I actually think the Apex applies quite aptly as Callaway took the 360 Cup Face tech and put it in a forged, players iron – which is largely what TM is doing with the P790. TM is just using the PXG formula instead.

      You’re correct in that this segment appears “new and popular” but in order for that to be true, the trend had to start somewhere and for all intents and purposes, PXG started this trend with the 0311 series.

      Reply

      Jeff Phelps

      7 years ago

      TM clubs are working for Tiger, Jason and Rory aren’t they! Junk

      Reply

      Pierre-Pete LaBrecque

      7 years ago

      They’re working for their bank accounts. Oh and wasn’t Day using TmAG when he took over #1, won the PGA, etc?

      Reply

      Jeff Phelps

      7 years ago

      Pierre-Pete LaBrecque TM can’t turn a profit so they get sold, then they try to buy every swinging Dick they can sign….horrible business model…I’ve hit the new stuff not impressed at all.

      Reply

      Kenneth Lee

      7 years ago

      I think $$$ talks!!!

      Reply

      Matt Heister

      7 years ago

      Junk?? Tell that to DJ. Sergio. John Rahm. Hahahaha. GTFO

      Reply

      Jeff Phelps

      7 years ago

      Matt Heister I’d play it to for enough money….the bottom line is the bottom line…when you work at a golf course and get to hit everything that comes out, I know what I’m talking about…

      Reply

      Carl Brandon Jeep

      7 years ago

      Who buys pxg? Not exactly the best clubs made. Every top rated golfer whose played them have slumped in ranking.

      Reply

      Carl Brandon Jeep

      7 years ago

      And those asking.. look at ko, schwartzel, Howell, Hahn, pillar, lang

      Reply

      Jeff Chaney

      7 years ago

      Somehow TM owes some sales of this club to Ollie this week…he got everyone all hot for the driving iron.

      Reply

      Ben Guy

      7 years ago

      Pretty sure Ollie is Callaway so that iron was an Apex (I could be wrong)

      Reply

      Jeff Phelps

      7 years ago

      Ollie smoking a Callaway Apex…

      Reply

      Joe Howsley

      7 years ago

      Ppl will spend the money on these and hit. 50 yard duck hook and they guy at the golf store will be happy he sold a set of these. They will be pissed they don’t help their game. Make all the clubs you want but one thing will never change the swing makes the ball go. Spend money on lessons and you will enjoy the game more. Oh and beer.

      Reply

      Chad Mardesen

      7 years ago

      PXG ripped off Ping. Ping ripped off Hogan. Hogan ripped off Wilson. Wilson kept Tom Hanks company on that island.

      There’s very few fresh ideas left regarding golf clubs, especially irons.

      If you hit them and like them, buy em. Get fitted. Play a boatload of golf. Lather, rinse, repeat.

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      Tim Robinson

      7 years ago

      Amen, Chad!

      Reply

      Kenny Duff

      7 years ago

      Every putter design i see, is pretty much a Ping Anser

      Reply

      Joe Wiseman

      7 years ago

      Ripoff

      Reply

      Sharkhark

      7 years ago

      Can’t wait to try them out and unlike pxg which is hard to test and find them im sure these will be available to test.

      Reply

      Jay Kim

      7 years ago

      TM has launched six new irons this year…#money

      Reply

      Chad Mardesen

      7 years ago

      I think it’s called “over-extending to gain market share”. And it’s not a great idea. Remember when TM had 7 driver heads, were #1 in market share and lost $150 million that year and then 4 years later Adidas sold them for 1/3 of what they originally bought them for?

      Guess they haven’t learned much.

      Reply

      Matt Heister

      7 years ago

      Titleist has what? 5?! Mizuno has like 6-7. Whats ur point?

      Reply

      Jay Kim

      7 years ago

      Dude, Titleist and Mizuno have two year product life cycle. What’s your point?? ?#productionorientation

      Reply

      Tony Sheppard

      7 years ago

      Both, WAY too expensive

      Reply

      Justin Bordwell

      7 years ago

      Rip off of pxg maybe? Compliment definitely not. Both ugly clubs

      Reply

      Mike Mueller

      7 years ago

      I’m calling ripoff. Other than the SLDR I can’t recall an original idea Taylor made has had since the R7

      Reply

      Nick Solheim

      7 years ago

      The original Burner irons from the 90’s had foam inserted and looked very much the same as these. I played them in high school. I’d say this is more a refresh than a ripoff.

      Reply

      Chad Mardesen

      7 years ago

      Mizuno actually created the sliding weight mechanism…

      Reply

      Mike Mueller

      7 years ago

      ^^^youre right I forgot about that. Lol

      Reply

      Chad Mardesen

      7 years ago

      The SLDR was a great driver…I currently hit the M1…great driver.

      But originality? TM is pretty short on it…

      (And by the way, I agree with you on the the R7 completely)

      Reply

      Mike Mueller

      7 years ago

      Yes it was. Arguably the greatest driver of it’s time. The SLDR was great except the forgiveness sucked lol

      Reply

      John Hardiman

      7 years ago

      You’re forgetting about all the stupid names and marketing campaigns. Those were all original TaylorMade ideas.

      Reply

      Matt Heister

      7 years ago

      Let’s see. The Spider putter that half the top ten were playing.
      I am fairly certain they were the first with the adjustable
      Sleeve.
      I believe The first with a 5pc golf ball.
      Slotted Irons. (I believe)

      Reply

      Andrew Martin Hazel

      7 years ago

      Slotted irons was Adams

      Reply

      Tom Zanarini

      7 years ago

      Wilson had a slotted iron in the 80s.

      Reply

      Jeff Phelps

      7 years ago

      Matt Heister spider putter is the ugliest mother fing putter I’ve ever seen…not even it were free!

      Reply

      Alexander Swartz

      7 years ago

      Not even if you paid me

      Reply

      Jeffery Smith

      7 years ago

      Who cares only 1% of golfers can afford #PXG irons anyway.

      Reply

      Tony Sheppard

      7 years ago

      $1300….yep, too expensive!

      Reply

      Jeffery Smith

      7 years ago

      Tony Sheppard It’s easier to afford $1300 or $800 next year, as compared to ~$3500

      Reply

      Michael L. Hayden

      7 years ago

      This seems like Back to the Future as their ICW 11s were hollow with foam.

      Reply

      Jordan Bowen

      7 years ago

      You ❤️ it

      Reply

      Scott Beresford

      7 years ago

      Jordan Bowen that’s what I ment ???

      Reply

      Ash Gourlay

      7 years ago

      Yuck!

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