First Look: Wilson Golf DUO Professional
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First Look: Wilson Golf DUO Professional

First Look: Wilson Golf DUO Professional

Picture yourself in a cart on a fairway, with tangerine trees and marmalade skies. Somebody calls you, you answer quite slowly – it’s the golf ball with kaleidoscope eyes.

No, you’re not hallucinating, nor is your playing partner named Lucy and there are no diamonds in the sky. But we are talking about Wilson’s colorful new replacement for its DUO Urethane ball, the new DUO Professional. Like its predecessor, the DUO Professional straddles that not-so-fine line between low-spinning (and lower priced) distance balls and higher spinning (and premium priced) Tour-level balls.

It’s a peculiar category, but one OEMs feel is worth fighting over: enough performance to appeal to the better player but a price that makes you wonder why you’re spending $45 a dozen for the same balls Tour players use. Wilson is banking on its signature soft feel, combined with a healthy dose of color, to grab its share of this particular market.

A DUO U Overhaul

Wilson released the Duo Urethane (DUO U for short) nearly three years ago, dubbing it the world’s softest urethane-covered ball thanks to its 55 compression. But trying to deliver soft feel with the spin better players want is difficult balancing act because low compression and high spin simply don’t go together.

“To get low compression, you need to have a soft core,” says Frank Simonutti, Wilson’s Global Director of Golf Ball Innovation. “Well, the soft core brings the spin rate down, so you have to find a way to offset that. It’s hard to do on the overall ball.”

The upside of a softer core is lower driver spin, which helps the ball fly straighter (or at least, less crooked). The downside, however, is lower spin on all your other shots, including partial shots, wedge shots or full-iron shots, which translates into less stopping power on the green.

“One of the things we found is it’s very hard to keep the spin rate of a low compression urethane ball at the level of, say, a four-piece ball,” says Simonutti. “So we’ve redesigned the ball – we’ve upped the compression from 55 to 60, we’ve made the core larger, the mantle harder and the cover thinner to allow for more of an increases in spin on lower swing speed shots.”

Specifically, Wilson is replacing the soft HPF material used in the DUO U’s mantle layer with a harder Surlyn layer in the DUO Professional. In addition, the DUO Professional’s urethane cover is roughly 35 to 40% thinner than that of the DUO U, which translates into 6 to 10% more spin compared to the DUO U.

“That thin cover really pinches between the harder mantle and the club head for higher spin rates,” says Simonutti. “The whole point is to get to where the outer layers are taking over the ball with slower swing speed shots. The soft core gets us distance, and soft feel of the driver, and the thin cover/hard mantle combination gives better players the spin they need on approach shots, chips, and pitches.”

As mentioned earlier, the core of the DUO Professional is larger compared to the DUO U – nearly 2/10ths of an inch larger – and is also a bit firmer, leading to the slightly higher compression. As a result, the DUO Professional will spin a wee bit more off the driver compared to the DUO U.

“It’s not going to spin up there with a 4-piece ball off the driver, but it’s very close off the 9-iron and wedges,” says Simonutti. “But a better player may want to fade or draw the ball on demand off the tee, so that extra spin doesn’t hurt.”

Dimple Simple and Candy Colors

Dimple patterns, of course, affect trajectory, as does dimple depth. Deeper dimples give you lower flight, and shallower dimples give you higher flight. While the DUO Professional shares the same seamless 362 dimple pattern as the DUO U, the comparatively higher spin rate of the DUO Professional requires a slightly deeper dimple pattern.

“What we’re looking for is a trajectory that gives us optimum distance,” says Simonutti. “When you design a golf ball, launch angle, spin rate, and ball velocity are all functions of the construction. Now we all know a ball with no dimples doesn’t go anywhere, but dimple pattern and depth optimize trajectory to get the longest possible distance.”

For example, a soft, 2-piece ball such as the DUO Soft is a low spinning ball. To get it up in the air, it requires shallow dimples. The DUO Professional, with 18 to 20% more spin than DUO U, doesn’t need the same help. If you used the same dimple pattern, the higher spinning ball would launch extremely high, to the point of ballooning.

Wilson went all in on colors with the DUO Soft, with 7 matte colors along with the standard white. The DUO Professional isn’t quite as colorful, but you do have more choices than with any other urethane ball.

Along with standard white, the DUO Professional is also available in orange, yellow and green, although in reality, it is kind of hard to tell the difference between the yellow and green. Side by side, you can tell they’re different, but if I tossed you one and asked if it was yellow or green, I’m not sure you could tell with any certainty.

One disappointment is a lack of a matte white option. The matte white DUO Soft, which happens to be billed as the lady’s ball, is the best looking of the bunch in my opinion, and it would have been nice to see the same matte white in a more premium ball. In addition, the white DUO Soft and DUO Spin balls feature a red and black Wilson Staff shield as a logo, while the DUO Professionals feature a straight black shield. Again, not a big deal, but the red and black shield is a seriously badass looking logo.

Price, Availability, and Position

As we discussed earlier, the DUO Professional – along with its brethren, the Srixon Q STAR Tour and TaylorMade Project (a), among others – is sitting in a niche OEMs are trying to cultivate: Urethane covered balls with near-Tour level performance at a more moderate price. It’s potentially a huge market segment, and virtually all of the messaging is that most of us, even if we’re low handicappers, probably don’t need and won’t benefit from Tour-level balls, since we don’t have Tour-level swing speed.

It’s a compelling (and valid) story, but it’s one that doesn’t resonate unless accompanied by a meaningfully lower price. Paying Tour-level prices for a ball that doesn’t quite have Tour-level performance simply does not compute – a conundrum Bridgestone is facing with its arsenal of Tour B balls. The Tour B X and XS are Tour-level, while the RX and RXS don’t have quite the same performance and are aimed at slower swing speed golfers. Four good balls, but the problem is all four are premium-priced at $44.99 (Not for nothing, but you can expect a new Bridgestone ball soon that’ll slide right into this category in terms of both performance and price).

Wilson is positioning itself on the higher end of this market at $34.99/dozen, which is a $5.00/dozen price drop compared to the DUO U (TaylorMade’s Project (a) is $34.99/dozen, Srixon’s Q STAR Tour is $29.99/dozen). Direct-to-consumer companies Snell and Vice are in the same ballpark price-wise, but those balls tend to be closer to – or even equal to – Tour-level performance.

The DUO Professional will be available at retail and on Wilson.com starting Monday, December 3rd.

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      Jake

      5 years ago

      Is that HPF cover as “tacky” and therefore as frictional as a Urethane cover? I am guessing that friction on shot shaping makes quite a difference. Why would all the Tour guys otherwise stick to Urethane covers, Like the Pro-V’s, Chrome Softs, TP5’s.

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      Hugh

      5 years ago

      I played a sleeve and they were great coming into the green. Seemed soft and not super “spinney” but got the job done nicely. I did see a lot in distance over the AVX so like most things in life, it’s a trade off.

      If/when they find a way to add 10-20 yards off the tee and keep the other benefits (easier said than done) then they have a ball that is as nice as any.

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      David Gardner

      5 years ago

      is the avx longer or the Wilson ?

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      Ross

      5 years ago

      This new ball is awesome. I dont need to work the driver so much…but u can still fade and draw this ball…however for the straight low flighted driver this ball is the business. if you play in the wind this ball wins. Short game control is great feels soft off the putter…4hcp couldn’t recommend more highly.

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      Andy

      5 years ago

      Best ball ever was the Taylormade TP Red. Plays wind like there is no wind. The Titleist AVX is a the longest I have hit and they feel nice by the greens as well.

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      Ray Gawlak

      5 years ago

      Tried the MG Senior ball for supposedly extra distance. Nothing special, nothing extra in distance and felt like hitting a stone. Wanted to return them but after several calls and no one picking up (over 15 minutes) and no address to return them am completely disgusted with this company. Will never order from these people again.

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      Gamby

      5 years ago

      Agreed, no extra distance,rock like feel

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      Dave

      5 years ago

      The new ball looks interesting, I play the Duo Soft in cooler weather because it doesn’t feel like I’m hitting a rock when it’s 40 degrees out. The only beef I have with it is the matte white (“ladies”) ball get’s incredibly dirty and is hard to clean. (I also have the standard white which is much better.)

      When it’s warmer, I mess around with the direct to consumer options (Encore, Vice, Snell) and haven’t decided which one I like better so next summer, I’ll spend a little more time comparing those options along with the new Wilson Professional.

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      Tim

      5 years ago

      Last week, I played 2 rounds with OnCore Elixr and with Snell Black golf balls. Since I was playing as a single on a weekday on both rounds, I played two balls on most shots. In pretty much every instance, OnCore out-performed Snell (longer on drives and long irons and stopped on the green quicker on short irons). I’m now a big fan of OnCore Elixr balls and now have a few dozen Snell balls for sale…..

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      Glenn Husted

      5 years ago

      I have played various Wilson Staff golf balls for years. I have even converted several Titleist ball players….they are now true converts and Wilson lovers

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      Tom Higgins

      5 years ago

      The Duo U has supplanted the Pro V1 as the best performing ball tee to green. The 50 compression pays off big time on fast greens with its soft feel in the putting stroke. The one downside of this ball is that it looses its whiteness after a few rounds. Here’s hoping this new ball can maintain the soft feel on the green, and stay white after a round or two.

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      boggey55

      5 years ago

      I’ve been playing the Duo Urethane and really love the performance. I’d love some improved spin and bite around the greens. I’d love this new Duo Pro if the price were $29.95!!! I still play the Duo in cooler weather and out drive my buddies. I’m glad Wilson is upgrading their equipment. I’m looking at a new set of C300 irons.

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      Pip

      5 years ago

      I don’t know you beat TP5s at 34 / dozen. If you got to rock bottom you can pick up TP5s “practice” versions at 3 dozen for 60. Brand new and I can’t find the blemish

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      The Rock

      5 years ago

      Wilson brass is clueless, no wonder they wont ever get over a percent share. Matte balls are a fad and offering 7 colors at a 34.99 price point is mind boggling. How many 3 piece urethane “tour” ball players play matte? I’ll wait

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      Hugh

      5 years ago

      Then buy the white and go play… Don’t know about matte balls, but I’m fairly confident yellow balls are not a fad.

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      Stephen Pearcy

      5 years ago

      Nice, informative (with no marketing bs) article from MGS. What I’ve come to expect.

      Reply

      Jeff Mott

      5 years ago

      I currently play the Wilson Duo base level ball at 29 compression.
      They are great for colder days> I also play the Taylormade (A)1 and love them but can’t find them in orange.
      I’d love to try the Wilson Duo Pro

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      Jason Landry

      5 years ago

      I had the chance to try these recently and they were definitely soft. They spun fine around the greens and felt great off the irons, but for me personally, they were too soft inside of 50 yards. I tend to like a firmer feel for better distance control within that range. Also, these are not for the player who has a swing speed above 100 mph with a driver. The ball seems to “knuckle” and drop out of the sky earlier in its descent due to lack of spin off the longer clubs.

      But, if you are a good player looking for a soft ball with a lot of greenside spin that just happens to swing under 95 mph, this is your ball. And the matte finish is really easy to see on the color versions.

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      Sandy

      5 years ago

      Found a MG C4 golf ball and played it for several rounds. Loved it! Bought a couple dozen @ 20 bucks a dozen. Great 3 piece urethane covered ball with Pro V1 performance. Try it. I think you will like it.

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      George

      5 years ago

      Too tingy for putting.

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      DaveyD

      5 years ago

      I’ve gone Indie and love the Vice and Snell offerings. I enjoy hitting the Vice Pro Soft. Does everything I want, plus it’s got that cool white matte finish.

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      shortside

      5 years ago

      Big fan of the Vice Pro Soft. Also the Cut Grey. The Vice in red is probably the easiest to track in the air. Get that comment a lot on the tee box.

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      Robert Carlson

      5 years ago

      I’m 65 years old and currently hold a 4hcp, I tried this years DUO and had mixed reviews. I would be willing to try the new ones.

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      Eye4golf

      5 years ago

      Best ball right now for both performance and price is Srixon Q star tour. When I want to play a 4 piece I go with Kirkland. Even Kirkland 3 piece is a great ball when conditions are ruff due to weather. Snell and Vice are excellent balls too but you need to buy in quantity for best price and they won’t divide white/colored. Pro V are more status than performance in the hands of the “average “ golfers.

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      John K.

      5 years ago

      I’m sticking with the MTB(Black) by Snell. MGS tests validated its performance earlier this year when compared to the ProV. They are also currently on sale for $25.00 when you buy their value pack(6 dozen). Or $26.99 if you buy an individual dozen(box) Shipped for free! 3 piece construction. A great value!

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      RAT

      5 years ago

      I’ve tried the TopFlite Gamer and It’s not that great just another so so ball,The price is nice though. Seems to me Wilson is on the attack in the New Pro ball and I’m excited about the new offer and ready to get to the test it asap.. I play the Duo now along with the Srixon 333 and this ball may be the answer for me ,Distance , spin at the short game along with a softer feel that the Pro V doesn’t have. WOW!!!
      send me a sleeve…

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      Andrew

      5 years ago

      Have you tried the gamer tour/pro? Urethane covered ball, and can pretty easily be found for ~$35/2doz.

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      RAT

      5 years ago

      Tried the gamer, down on distance and the feel wasn’t there for me.15 bucks a doz isn’t bad but not enough for me to switch .I will stick with Wilson .I’ve been playing their Fg tour and Duo love them all but the price of the Fg. I did play the Srixon 333 but the Wilson product always met my fit and needs in performance and price $20.00 in the DUO. I would be willing to go the extra a bit if it suits my game. Waiting now for them to arrive at the course FOXCHASE Counce Tennessee..Attention Bart!!!

      Vas

      5 years ago

      The last major improvement I saw was the TP5X… and the touch less spin on those are fine for all but the firmest courses. That ball is tough to beat.

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      Emery Cole

      5 years ago

      I’ve amassed an arsenal of collected balls over the past year so the month of October 2018, I decided to test brands. I have played ProV1 for a while and decided ProVx were not my ball. So, I tried numerous types of Srixon, Bridgestone, Wilson, Callaway and TaylorMade. I recently have purchased TP5’s as my current ball (after having my longest drive ever with a TP5x!) and they are on sale for $34.99. Liked the Wilson DUO’s (seemed straighter hitting than ChromeSofts) and did not price them but was thinking/hoping they were cheaper than what this article stated. I still like ProV1’s but I am buying TP5’s on sale. We’ll see how the new Proto ProV’s turn out

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      Patrick

      5 years ago

      I have the last two sets of irons by wilson. Will probably have to give this ball a crack too

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      Steve S

      5 years ago

      Not sure how any of this translates when we are talking differences in swing speed. With my driver swing speed (90mph) I don’t see any performance difference in any of the balls from ProV1(X) down to TopFlite Gamers. Again with my wedge swings I see no difference between the intermediate balls and the Gamers in stopping distance. Only the “top line” balls show a little more “stopping” spin than Gamers. I saw virtually no difference in the Gamer and Gamer Urethane.

      When I tried the original Duo it was actually somewhat shorter for me than virtually any other ball I played. I very rarely will play them unless it’s below 50 degrees.

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      Rob

      5 years ago

      Performance from a golf ball is just as much dependent on the contact quality of the ball regardless of swing speed. My swing speed is exactly the same as yours, and I can promise you there is a HUGE difference between the performance of the Pro V’s (and other tour level balls) vs any of the two piece lower priced balls.

      If you aren’t making clean ball first contact that is going take a huge amount of spin off the ball.

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      Steve S

      5 years ago

      Rob, I understand. But I wasn’t comparing misshits but good strikes. I have the good fortune to be able to play whenever I want and have done tests when there is no one else on the course. I’ve done side by side comparisons on the golf course with multiple shots of different golf balls and I stand by my testing. I play to a 11 handicap this year(was 13 at the beginning of the year) so I’m not a great golfer but I’m also not a crappy ball striker.

      Rob

      5 years ago

      Steve…fair enough, and I also misread parts of your post, you mention there isn’t any difference off the tee for you between any ball, but said in the wedges you mentioned the intermediate–not tour level–an the gamers. So I can see that possibly being more the case.

      For example, I tried the e6 and it was fine off the tee, but didn’t give me any better performance spin wise around the green than a lower price would have.

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      Frank

      5 years ago

      I currently play the Wilson Soft Feel. What will this new ball do that the Soft feel doesn’t?

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      Foz

      5 years ago

      Frank, I had the pleasure of hitting the new Professional for a couple holes last week. I normally play the Duo rather than the Duo Soft and the new Professional ball definitely has the ability to bite the green, Even suck back. It has more bite than the Duo U.

      Reply

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