First Look: Wilson Staff C300/C300 Forged Irons
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First Look: Wilson Staff C300/C300 Forged Irons

First Look: Wilson Staff C300/C300 Forged Irons

When it comes to irons, what makes you swoon like a 14-year old girl?

Is it distance? Is it some sort of high-tech, goo-filled technology? Or is it just good old-fashioned forged goodness?

Depending on your game, it could be any one of those, or it could be all three. Today Wilson Staff is unveiling a couple of new irons sets it thinks will check-off some or all of those boxes.

2017 has been an interesting year in Wilson Staff’s journey. The year started with the hangover from the Driver Vs. Driver-Triton-USGA fiasco, but that headache was soon forgotten with the release of the universally praised – and MyGolfSpy’s Most WantedFG Tour V6, another in Wilson’s long line of impressive, forged irons for the better player.

Wilson’s ball renaissance continued this fall with the release of the new DUO Soft and DUO Soft Spin, which featured a return of the iconic Wilson Staff shield and more colors than a Summer-Of-Love acid trip.

If you paid attention to social media this past weekend, you know Wilson is hyping today’s release of the C300 and the C300 Forged irons pretty hard – or as hard as a smaller, challenger brand can (and for what it’s worth, Wilson utilizes social media as well as most OEMs today). Hype aside, Wilson is giving game-improvement players a pair of interesting iron sets to consider.

Wilson C300 irons - 2-1567

Power Holes, Part Deux

When it comes to Game Improvement irons, every OEM is on the same quest: a larger, hotter sweet spot for greater ball speed and more distance on off-center strikes. Every OEM has a name for it: PING has Cor-Eye, Callaway has 360 Face Cup, Cobra has PWRSHELL, and TaylorMade has Speed Pockets, Face Slots and the hotly contested SpeedFoam.

“The industry has achieved maximum CT (Characteristic Time – or face springiness, as regulated by the USGA) in the center of the face,” says Jon Pergande, Wilson Staff’s Global Manager of Golf Innovation. “So the center of the face is covered. We’re trying to expand face deflection into the heel and toe area of the club.”

Two years ago Wilson gave us FLX Face Technology in its C200 irons. The goal was to make the face thinner, hotter, and faster by separating it from the head using Power Holes. Only 24% of the face was connected to the club head, which allowed it to flex more at impact to deliver greater ball speed. FLX Face proved to be a polarizing look, though, as the Power Holes were filled with black urethane filler for additional support and improved feel. Haters grabbed their pitchforks and stormed the Castle of Aesthetics.

So what is Wilson doing with the C300? Why, doubling down on Power Holes, of course.

Wilson C300 irons - 11-1588

“We want to free up the face and make it as large, as thin and as unsupported as possible,” says Pergande. “Power Holes pass through the structure of the body and around the face to facilitate freedom of movement. The whole goal is to increase face deflection to increase ball speed across the entire face.”

The standard C300 set – which is the direct replacement for the C200 – features Power Holes on the topline, toe, and sole just as before. The key difference is a double row of Power Holes on the sole, compared to a single row in the C200.

On one level, this screams gimmick – but Wilson says it’s seeing up to 2 MPH balls speed increases over the C200’s, with reduced spin rates and higher launch angles – all ingredients for added distance.

“If you think about the original premise of a large, unsupported face, every one of those ridges in between the power holes of the original C200 is a rigid body that’s not allowing the face to flex or deflect at impact. With the second row of Power Holes on the sole, every piece of that support structure is also allowed to deflect.” Jon Pergande, Wilson Staff

Closer Power Hole inspection shows us the first row has a long slot in the middle and shorter slots on the heel and toe. The second row features to mid-length holes centered behind the front row gaps.

“We couldn’t possibly do a double row around the entire face,” says Pergande. “We’re putting that maximum deflection toward the sole, where we have the material to do it. The front row is aligned to the center of the sole, so it has its own ability to springboard. The second row is basically adding springboard to the springboard.”

Wilson C300 irons - 5-1573

C300 Facts and Figures

The C300 irons feature a heat-treated 17-4 Stainless Steel face that’s harder, stronger and thinner than C200’s face. Any potential harshness in feel is mitigated by the additional urethane in the extra row of Power Holes. Two late-fall practice rounds show a club with feel on par with PING’s G400 – not super-forged soft but pleasant feeling nonetheless.

The entire C300 set features dual rows of Power Holes, although Pergande does say you’ll see more Power Hole Pop in your longer irons.

“That’s where you’ll see the greatest benefit because of greater clubhead speeds,” he says. “Depending on loft structures, we’re a club longer than some people, or we’re at similar distance with improved trajectory and spin rates. You can’t really compare 6-iron to 6-iron anymore because there may be several degrees difference in loft.”

Wilson C300 irons - 4-1571

Compared to others irons in this category – TaylorMade’s M2, Callaway’s Steelhead and Cobra’s new F8 – Wilson’s lofts are a tad weaker. The C300 features a 31-degree 7-iron, compared to 28.5 for M2, 29.5 for the F8 and 30 for the Steelhead XR. However, Wilson’s shafts are anywhere from ½” to ¾” longer than M2/Steelhead and the same length as the Cobras.

Cosmetically, you’ll notice the C300 has been cleaned up considerably compared to the C200. The club head is completely devoid of red (ironic, considering what Wilson is doing with the C300 metal woods), with a clean chrome and black look that harkens back to Wilson’s FG Tour V2. Wilson is also adding an adjustability notch on the hosel, similar to notch you find on PING irons, to make loft and lie adjustments easier, something that was problematic with the C200’s.

Wilson C300 irons - 7-1578

The C300’s are on the SGI side of Game Improvement, and anyone from a high single digit handicap looking for distance all the way to an emerging 20 handicap will want these on their demo list. If you struggle with distance, height, and ball striking, you’ll want to look elsewhere for more forgiveness.

The KBS Tour 90 is the stock steel shaft, and the Fujikura Speeder Pro 78i is the stock graphite. A slick looking new Wilson Staff branded Lamkin Crossline is the stock grip.

Wilson continues to price its irons competitively – the 8-piece 4-GW C300 set retails for $799 in steel, $899 in graphite. They can be pre-ordered starting today on Wilson’s website and will be available in stores in early January.

Wilson C300 irons - 16-1606

C300 Forged: Feel + Distance

Another new frontier for OEM’s is marrying distance technology and forgiveness with the looks and feel better players want. If you’re in this category OEM’s know busy cavities, brightly colored badges and thick toplines are definite turnoffs, while minimal or hidden offset, toplines so thin you can shave with them and sex-on-a-stick look and feel are must-haves in your eHarmony profile.

If that’s you, and if Power Holes don’t bother you (which admittedly is a big if) Wilson’s C300 Forged might be more your speed.

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“There are traditional players out there with certain expectations of what a golf club should look like at address,” says Pergande. “That expectation includes offset, topline, overall blade shape, and size. That’s why there are no Power Holes on the topline or toe of the C300 Forged. That player doesn’t want to see distraction on the topline has an expectation of minimal offset and an expectation for looks.”

In theory, C300 Forged is the direct replacement for the two-year-old FG Tour F5 forged iron. However, Pergande says while the F5 was a great feeling iron with a fair amount of forgiveness, it lacked the distance tech the category requires.

“F5 was a cavity back, so there was some forgiveness. But we also had a bar across the cavity for added feel and blade-like performance with added mass behind the impact area. But mass behind the impact area is moving away from a large, thin, unsupported face. So what we’re doing is taking the gloves off and putting in all the distance technology we can, while still keeping a traditional look, feel and head shape.” – Jon Pergande, Wilson Staff

Pergande says that compared to the F5, Wilson is seeing 12 to 13-yard increases with 4 and 5 irons for an average player, with smaller increases as the irons get shorter.

Wilson C300 Forged irons - 5-1614

“The F5 was distance through forgiveness,” he says. “What the C300 Forged does is add ball speed to the distance equation. On top of that, we modified and manipulated the loft structure to be fair to the discussion.”

Modified? Manipulated?

Are we officially copping to loft-jacking?

“I don’t think the lofts in any of our products are ‘jacked,’” says Pergande. “Our lofts respond to the needs of the marketplace. There are a handful of products in the marketplace that I can say have very jacked lofts, or are very noteworthy outliers in loft.”

“When it comes to the average player, traditional lofts had us at a disadvantage when it came to ball speed numbers in a simulator or on Trackman. Consumers still experience it as 7-iron to 7-iron, or 6-iron to 6-iron. We have to make sure the experience that consumer has is the most positive we can deliver. The fine line everyone in the industry fights is what is the best way to achieve distance? It’s not always a pure increase in loft, although that’s certainly a part of it.” – Jon Pergande, Wilson Staff

The lofts on the C300 Forged are 1 to 2 degrees stronger than the F5’s, but are right there with others in the category: Callaway’s Apex Pro and the Titleist AP2 are roughly one degree weaker, while M1 and Steelhead XR Pro are 2 to 2.5 degrees stronger.

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Power Holes And Other Love Songs

As mentioned earlier, you won’t see any Power Holes at address with the C300 Forged. You will find them low on the toe and on the sole, but if you’re watching the sole of the club during the swing, you’re probably doing it wrong.

The Power Hole pattern is slightly different in the C300 Forged compared to the standard C300. The first row features three smaller slots of the same length, backed up by two longer slots.

Wilson Staff C300 Power Holes

“The C300 Forged uses 8620 carbon steel, so the strength properties aren’t the same as the C300,” says Pergande. “We can’t have quite as large of a Power Hole right at the center of the face because of the strength of the material.” The C300 Forged has Power Holes only up to the 8-iron. The 9, PW and GW are Hole-less.

8620 is the same forging as Wilson’s FG Tour V6 and FG Tour 100 player’s irons – with a topline and head size slightly larger than those of the V6, but are virtually indistinguishable for all but the most OCD among us. And if you’re a forged feel lover, the C300 Forged will definitely make you get down and boogie. The cavity itself is very clean, mostly chrome with only the lettering and Wilson Staff shield in black. The cavity itself is virtually invisible at address.

Wilson C300 Forged irons - 7-1624

The C300 Forged fit nicely into the category populated by the Callaway Steelhead Pro, Apex CF 16 or Apex Pro, the Titleist AP 1 or AP 2 or the Mizuno JPX 900 Forged, so any low teen or single digit handicapper looking for a little distance along with feel might find a friend here.

The C300 Forged is also an 8-piece, 4-GW set, with KBS Tour 105 the stock steel shaft and the Fujikura Speeder Pro 85i the stock graphite shaft. The Wilson Staff branded Lamkin Crossline grip is standard for both sets.

The C300 Forged retails for $899 in steel and $999 in graphite. They can be pre-ordered on Wilson’s website starting today and will be in stores in early January.

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      Steve Moffitt

      6 years ago

      Bought the Wilson C300 Forged clubs and they are good.
      The down side is the power slots have started to go into the club which is very bad.
      I bought these from American Golf and Wilson want to have them back to look at first.
      I have used these less than 10 rounds now which is where the dilemma comes.
      In order for me to send these back it will take Wilson around 2 to 3 weeks before the return them which is out of order.
      End of this means that I will be returning the clubs for a refund and look to buy elsewhere.
      My recommendation is do not buy these and buy another make.

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      BrianM

      6 years ago

      I went to Wilson Demo days, last Saturday, specifically to demo the 300 forged irons. They didn’t have the 300 forged head in a flat, so I tried the std. lie. While it felt good, I pulled everything left. The fitter asked me to try the cast 300 in a flat, which I hit much straighter. Fit with a project x shaft, this has to be the longest 7 iron I have ever hit. I was getting carry yardage of 180-190 yards. For a point of reference, I hit my forged Bridgestone 7 iron with 158 carry. I didn’t purchase these irons, as distance is not everything for me, however if distance is your thing this iron is LONG.

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      Gordon

      6 years ago

      Love to try these. Played nothing but forged Wilson tour blades for years when younger. Now much older needed more distance, which I found in my Cobra Amp Cells with graphite shafts. Like me these irons are getting a little worn, Would love to find the same distance but long for the forged feel of Wilson irons. The new C 300 forged are 2 degrees weaker than my current set of Cobras. I wish the web site would give us the options they can offer. Certainly they can make a custom set with stronger lofts to match distances of the Cobras.
      I agree with the previous post finding a retail location to test them isn’t easy, and the web site is pretty useless. Can’t wait to begin reading some reviews.

      Reply

      JCR

      6 years ago

      Yes you can custom order the C300 Forged if you click on the standard set arrow it will drop down a menu for custom building a set. I ordered mine this week!

      Reply

      AshRay

      6 years ago

      I just got fitted for the C300 forged. I tried all the usual suspects: Srixon 545, Titleist AP1/AP3, Mizuno JPX forged/Hot metal/Cally Rogue/Apex during several testing sessions. I hit five balls with the Wilsons and knew I had a winner. I waited a week, went back and same thing. The Wilsons were just better than anything I tried. The sound, feel, ball flight, distance were all exactly what I was looking for.

      For context I’m a 55 yr old 8 hdcp that has always chosen forgiveness and distance over aesthetics. I’m not a great ball striker. My 7 iron speed is 87 MPH avg. This is my first set of forged irons.

      I’m really astounded at how underrated Wilson Staff is as a brand. I guess they don’t have the advertising budget of the major brands but they deserve a serious look if you’re in the market for new sticks.

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      Brien

      6 years ago

      There will be plenty of Custom options from some No Charge shaft upgrades to middle end shaft upgrades all the way to the exotics. Grips also. All my Wilson Staff clubs are from the Custom Department in Chicago. They’re pretty dang quick and Spot On.

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      Brien

      6 years ago

      MODEL 4 5 6 7 8 9 PW GW

      C300 21 24 27 31 35 39 44 48

      Forged 23 26 29 33 37 41 45 49

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      Rob

      6 years ago

      Just wondering. Can the lofts be made stronger on the C300 forged?

      Reply

      joro

      6 years ago

      Certainly they can be made stronger. Just have someone who has a bending machine in your area and knows how to do it. The forged are like Butter and making them a couple of degrees stronger is easy. I have done many in my years in the business.

      Just keep in mind that 2 degrees also changes the bounce 2 degrees, but that is usually not a problem unless you are Tiger Woods. Good luck with it and good Golfing with your Wilsons. I am an old Goat and have the C300s and love em.

      Alex

      6 years ago

      Interesting release from Wilson. Quick question though, what category of golfers are the C300 for? Or, put it another way, which irons are the C300 competitors? My guess is, regular C300 compete against the AP1 (and similar) while the C300 forged compete against the AP2/AP3 (and similar). Am I correct?

      Reply

      John Barba

      6 years ago

      You’re pretty much spot on – both are what game improvement irons, with the C300’s having more forgiveness and leaning towards SGI, with the C300 Forged on the better player end of the GI spectrum. Wilson does a nice job of categorizing its irons with F-C-D. F is for Feel, and represents their better player irons (FG Tour 100 blades, FG Tour V6 player’s cavity backs). C is for Crossover – their designation for Game Improvement – and D is for Distance – their Super Game Improvement offerings. They have two sets of irons in each category

      Reply

      Lucas

      6 years ago

      Any word on if there will be any custom fitting options?

      Reply

      John Barba

      6 years ago

      Absolutely – these will be part of Wilson’s fitting carts once they’re released for retail, which should be sometime in January. As with most OEM’s, they’ll sell more stock sets than anything else, but their Custom Department in Chicago stays plenty busy building custom sets.

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      RAT

      6 years ago

      Wilson Staff has very clearly declared they are back with these new offerings… The tech and looks blend so well together,like a GT40 Ford Racer… Killer looks and BADASS MUSCLE… What a combination!!
      I’m ready for a test run ..

      Reply

      BrianM

      6 years ago

      I really like the way this club looks and I believe Wilson is making good products. My concern is they do not offer upgrades and the website doesn’t even list specs. No custom shafts, no loft/lie adjustments, no additional grips. When they offer these I will seriously look at them. They are taking orders on the site now for these products and you can’t even choose the flex of the shaft, just graphite or steel are you 2 choices. I do not understand how a company that can host a TV reality show and give away a million dollars can’t have an site with information.

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      THOMAS

      6 years ago

      MAYBE THEY’LL HELP SOME, A COUPLE OF EXTRA YARDS?
      BOTTOM LINE QUIT LOOKING FOR A COUPLE OF ADDITIONAL
      WHICH I DOUBT WILL MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE AND INSTEAD FOCUS ON IMPROVING YOUR HANDICAP. BEST PART OF THIS CLUB IS THE GRIP

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      DougWilsonsSlapper

      6 years ago

      Ok, sure. But let’s say I’m in the market to upgrade clubs, then why shouldn’t I look at these? Because I should focus on improving my handicap? Well, what if I’ve done that and my clubs are no longer appropriate for my swing? Cripes.

      Reply

      Fred Power

      6 years ago

      “If you struggle with distance, height, and ball striking, you’ll want to look elsewhere for more forgiveness.” Isn’t that most of us?? Where do you suggest we look for more forgiveness?

      Reply

      Mbrodeur86

      6 years ago

      Damn it! I was set on Srixon 545’s but those c300 forged irons are calling my name. John, do we have lofts yet? I have the ci11’s but they are getting up there

      Reply

      Dave Dudus

      6 years ago

      Good looking clubs. Can’t wait to see the test results later. Hopefully, players on the lookout for good clubs at a good price will have a great option.

      Reply

      Lou

      6 years ago

      I play the c200s now and really are a great set of irons. Would love to test the c300 forged. Also have the Triton. Good driver. Long and straight. But don’t LOVE IT like my c200s.
      What I love about the c200 set is it’s long. About 8 yards longer than my old set of Titliest ap2s. And truthfully, have much better feel. Great topline and set up. I’m a 5 handicap and have tried a few sets this year and the only set that was even close in feel were the Calloway Apex forged. But not as long and not as balanced as the c200s. Calloway were a B+ but the Wilson Staff are an A+.. please let me know if you would like an honest assessment of the new c300 irons.

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      Eye4golf

      6 years ago

      Any word from Wilson on customizing? I am a single plane golfer with a midsize grip and a 38” 7 iron. The forged is the only thing I play, Tom Wishon 560 MC forged and play to a 9 hdcp.

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      Dave

      6 years ago

      Good looking irons .

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      Brian M

      6 years ago

      Wilson has a terrible web site and I just don’t understand why. I went to their site and they don’t have specs or options. You can add them to your bag and choose graphite or steel. You can’t choose your flex and it doesn’t confirm the flex. God forbid you want to customize anything.

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      Joro

      6 years ago

      True, the website is not the easiest but if you play with it all specs and inner workings are there and flexes are available along with custom options, you just have to ask.

      Go to Wilson Golf, hit Golf and then all items will pop up, but if you look at Woods, you have to repeat to look at Irons. It is not very smooth but everything is there. Good Luck with it

      Reply

      jay bird

      6 years ago

      love the look of the new C 300 forged irons, hope to see more test results. Keep up the great job you guys are doing. I play Srixon Z 765 now, would like to demo these when they hit the market.

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      Sam

      6 years ago

      Gday everybody
      Would love to test them and give everybody a perspective from down under but everytime MGS ask for testers I keep getting knocked back ? so alas I can’t tell you if these clubs will fit into a certain niche in the market but they do look good ? But in saying that Wilson has always made good golf clubs to suit most players in the market

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      Golfinnut

      6 years ago

      Flex face huh? How fast does one have to swing in order to get the whopping 2-mph more ball speed? Or to make the face “flex” enough to get anything out of it? IMO … I’m not sure this will help the average golfer anyway. Are they testing it on the robot swinging at 80 – 85 mph? Doubtful. What does 2-mph avg work out to … 3 – 4 yards? Is that really a discernible difference for someone to change to these irons?
      Anyway … I’ll test them out for you & bring back all the details if they do what they say they are gonna do.

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      waazzupppp

      6 years ago

      2 mph should equal about 1 yard per 10 yards of carry on a short iron or about 2 yards of carry per 10 yards on a longer iron. This should mean that the average 80 MPH swinger (with a driver) should pick up about 6 yards on a pitching wedge and 8 yards on a 5 iron.

      Not earth shattering gains, but easily 1/2 a club better on approach shots. This should mean a few more greens during a round for at least a few people.

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      Kardboard.kid

      6 years ago

      This is just not fair. I’m only now getting the feel of my current irons, and now this. Looks like I’m going to have to start all over again. ?

      Reply

      Ron

      6 years ago

      The major issue is that it is difficult to find Wilson products at your local retail golf outlet. I won’t buy equipment I do not have the availability to test pre-purchase. I don’t question Wilson quality but it remains a very minor player in the U.S. market.

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      DougWilsonsSlapper

      6 years ago

      What category of golfer are the C300 Forged for? C still stands for Crossover, and so is it the same as the regular C300s?

      Reply

      MG

      6 years ago

      Have u ever actually measured the clubs you get from Wilson? It is commonly stated that there irons are a half inch longer than others but I own the fg tour v2 and the v4 and they are same length or shorter than forged irons from Mizuno, cobra and titleist. I’m pretty sure Wilson measures there irons differently than other manufactures.

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      John Barba

      6 years ago

      The C300’s are longer – anywhere from 1/2″ to 3/4″ – compared to, say Callaway’s Steelheads and TM’s M1/M2, which definitely plays into relative distance. Wilson’s F series irons – the V6 and the 100 blades, tend to be more standard both in loft and in club length. According to Jon Pergande, their theory is folks who can play those clubs aren’t worried about distance

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      txgolfjunkie

      6 years ago

      Ok FINE! I’ll test these for MGS. Twist my arm. The forged look fantastic at address.

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      dlc

      6 years ago

      Who’s the C300 Forged for? Same category as regular C300?

      Reply

      Carolina Golfer 2

      6 years ago

      I know I expressed interest in the D350’s a week or so ago, but boy do both these offering look great. I’ll be hard pressed not to give them a serious look .

      I love the illustration that shows the sole widths. They look very similar–which I view as a good thing–was worried the forged would be too think.

      Also love the line that if you’re looking at the sole at address, you’re probably doing something wrong!!

      Reply

      Mike Vanschaffel

      5 years ago

      I was gonna buy the v6 irons till I hit the c300 forged.wow they felt exactly the same but a bit more forgiving.still a smallish head.its actually the exact size of my old v2 iron I had laying around.my kid has the older f5 irons that these replace.same size head but the f5 is awefull compared to the c300 forged.the c300 is way, and I mean wayyyyy easier to hit.if u play f5 irons u gotta get these. Distance is good for weakish lofts.spun numbers were excellent.same as the v6

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