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You Just Got Ripped Off! – Is Your New Club A Fake?

You Just Got Ripped Off! – Is Your New Club A Fake?

What Would You Do?

Imagine this for a second…there are tens of thousands of people across the globe accessing your bank account and stealing $0.01 from you every day.  Would you notice?  Of course you would..your talking hundreds of dollars a day being wiped from your bank account.  Not only is that directly impacting your life it’s impacting your wife and kids life as well.

Question is what would you do to stop them?  Enforcing laws across borders is not an option.  And what if your bank branch manager couldn’t stop the thieves either.  Would you stop there or would you continue to be vigilant about stopping it from ever happening again?

Golf Companies Losing Millions To Counterfeiters!

I give you that example because golf companies are losing millions of dollars in profits each and every year due to counterfeit golf equipment purchases.  There are basically thousands of thieves across the globe every day stealing money from their bank accounts.

So…what is the group doing to get rid of these thieves and counterfeiting in golf?  Well in my opinion NOT ENOUGH.

The U.S. Golf Manufacturers Counterfeiting Group which was formed in 2004 just launched a website they hope will eradicate this action and not only protect them but consumers as well.

So What’s Their Plan To Defeat Counterfeiting?

So what is their plan?  Well…they say two things:

  • Education
  • Enforcement

But here is the problem(s):

  • ENFORCEMENT WON’T WORK! – Well at least what the group is doing so far won’t work.  They employ a similar system that our current drug enforcement uses (Education & Enforcement). This all sounds great but it’s all about how you mobilize that education & enforcement.  And if you’ve watched even the smallest amount of TV lately I am sure you would agree that this “drug war” plan hasn’t worked out so well for us.  Not only has there not been a reduction in the amount of meth labs or drug wars going on in and around our country…they’ve increased dramatically.SAY NO TO DRUGS! – FAILED! (and so will)  SAY NO TO COUNTERFEITS!In 2010 the group says they seized 25,000 of the estimated 2,000,000 counterfeit golf clubs produced that year.  The seized clubs were valued at more then $1 million dollars.  Problem is that leaves 1,975,000 counterfeit golf clubs still in the marketplace and that’s just a rough estimate.  So…you’ve stopped the equivalent of a few days worth of production for these guys.  And like they state that doesn’t even include items like: fake balls, bags, gloves, etc.
  • EDUCATION – this is great if your actually able to reach the masses to do so…but even if you do…what is your message going to be?  What are you going to educate them about?  Just telling golfers that it’s a problem is simply not enough.  This group was formed in 2004 and the prevalence of counterfeiting has only gotten worse.

Golf Manufacturers Counterfeiting Group – Launches Website

While I will say that their new website is a start I will also say it is a MAJOR disappointment in my view.  Not only is it lacking when it comes to distribution as of now but it also lacks information.  In a matter of a single day a year or so ago I was able to write an article with more tips on how to avoid buying a “fake” then this group has produced in its 7 years of existence…which by the way their site totals all of 4 tips.

And you could have 50 tips on their new site and it still would not be nearly enough to make a dent in the problem.  Listen I am well aware that you will never be able to 100% fully eradicate golf club counterfeiting but they could do some things to make it much tougher for those producing counterfeit golf equipment to want to stay in business.

How To Stop The Thieves!

Now…by no means is this an all encompassing list or full proof ways to eliminate golf club counterfeiting…but if they really want to get serious about this…in my opinion these might be better options then launching a website with 4 tips to help consumers avoid buying fakes.

  • Updated List of Counterfeit Sites & Sellers – At a minimum this list could be listed on their new website.  This list would need to be updated weekly since the counterfeiters websites are often taken down but can re-appear under another name in a matter of days.
  • Advertise It! – This group is made up of 5 of the most well known golf companies in the world…they have the money.  This group says they came together to “Protect the integrity of the game and to protect the consumers.”  So if they are sincerely interested in doing this…do some advertising both through online and offline media outlets.  On the TV they could educate and on the web they could have ads on popular sites with links to the list of the current known counterfeiters.
  • Get Verified! – Similar to Twitter…have all popular authorized retailer/dealers publicly have to apply to be able to display that they are a “Verified Retailer/Dealer”.  This would be prominently promoted both in their brick and mortar shops and online stores as well…further getting the word out about the prevalence of the issue.
  • Partnership with eBay – sites like eBay are a major source of counterfeit sales for the golf equipment industry.  The majority of shoppers on these types of sites are looking for a deal and counterfeiters know this.  You are much less likely to question a new club purchase at a reduced rate from an eBay seller vs. a retail shop selling it much lower than expected.  And therefore many people end up receiving fake goods through eBay.  So, why not partner with them to publicize a list of known offending eBay account names known to sell fake golf goods.
  • Empower The Consumer! – This is the most important…consumers are the final decision makers when making golf equipment purchases, but up until now they have not had a way to 100% verify their equipments authenticity.  And no…holograms and ultra-violet sensitive labels will not work…they are too easily reproduced by the counterfeiters.  Counterfeiters will always be able to out match law enforcement. Although, millions of watchdog consumers could crush them.  So how you solve this is by having a unique code that is placed on the club after manufacturing (avoid overseas counterfeiting of the code) and only by the golf company itself.  This code could then be texted by the consumer to a phone number that will instantly give you a response back whether or not it is “authentic”.  This code could only be verified once after that the message would come back “error”.  This code could solve the problem for all new club purchases at “Verified Retailer/Dealer” locations.

NO PROFIT = NO COUNTERFEITERS

Now you might be saying this doesn’t solve the re-sale issue regarding counterfeit sales…and you have a point to some degree.  But counterfeiters goal is to make a profit just like anyone else in business.  And by almost eliminating them getting their retail costs for their counterfeits (still low cost to you) it will majorly impact their bottom line.  And by further educating the masses vs. launching a website you once again put a major dent in their profitability.  Promotion of  the “Verified Retailer/Dealer” program would also make the consumer more aware of the issue.  In the end what this does is reduce the amount of counterfeiters willing to get in the business…greatly reducing the amount of counterfeit products in the market place.

Just look at what is going in the world today…empowering the consumers can be a powerful thing.

Your Thoughts & Your Help!

Help spread the word about golf club counterfeiting…share this article or others like it with your golfing friends.  Have thoughts about this article or maybe you have your own ideas on how they could reduce the amount of counterfeit golf clubs sales.  I want to hear them and I am sure the U.S. Golf Counterfeiting Group would as well.  So speak up…have your voice heard and remember…”if it’s too good of a deal…most of the time it’s a fake!”

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      Blu

      12 years ago

      The reason counterfeiters flourish is. Because we the buyers, are GREEDY! Looking for the deal that is to good to be true. Not giving any thought to what the products actual cost might be. Blind with greed. The consumer is his worst enemy. They ignorantly think that there is 100% or more in profit. That $399 driver.. cost some shop owner $269 to $326 depending on what level they are.

      As for ebay.. the counterfieters don’t last long. The OEM’s arte buying. Thjey know most of the sellers on ebay.. They know what accounts are selling on ebay. Once again it goes back to the buyer being greedy and looking for the deal to good to be true.

      Then I blame the OEM’s. Callaway busted their butts to go over to Communist China and deal with people they new damn well was going to counterfiet their items. Once again it reverts back to the GREED FACTOR! What the OEM’s saved in production, cost them in sales.

      I read an article in a golf news latter that gets emailed out daily. Article was about 23% of clubs in a golfers bag were bogus. Only a small percentage of that 23% was from ebay sells. The 2nd tier golf shops buying crap and selling it.. Knock offs being built by mom and pops. Who remembers when the burner bubble came out? Taylor was shutting down guys all over the place. Our Pro at our course got reemed and darn near lost his account over it. Going to China was and stiff is the Golf Industries biggest mistake!

      Bogeybill you are right on man!!!

      My suggestion.. is buy from dealers who are authorized. You can always get there info.. go to the dealer locator and look them up. if some guy is from Hong Kong selling r11 drivers for $199(retail being $399). DUH buyer buys at his own risk!!! there is not $200 of profit in a driver DUH!

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      Phana24JG

      12 years ago

      Let’s not let this deteriorate into a politcal discussion about outsourcing. Exactly what would prevent Chinese counterfeits from duplicating American-made products? All they need to do is buy three real clubs here and send it to Shanghai for reverse engineering.

      Perhaps the big OEMs can sponsor some inexpensive X-ray or similar non-destructive testing to their retailers. Since digital images will be all that is necessary, it should be relatively easy and inexpensive to spot counterfeits. EBay sellers could claim “verified real” or some similar designation.

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      bogeybill

      12 years ago

      And there you have it, the Oems are to blame for taking thier products to china where cheap labour builds and nobody over there can afford to buy. Its not just clubs its cars in Mexico every other 5 dollar a day country. How can they afford to buy any of the crap they build they can’t. Yet we still let it go on and on at the unemploymment line.

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      manny

      12 years ago

      As soon as oems sell reasonably priced products made in the USA, not 5 to 10 times more than components or knockoffs.Problem is people have the perception that price means quality and oems like the golf snob appeal, so instead of trying to selling more clubs and get people started in the game they keep playing the same lame game. I dont play their game and never will.

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      Robert

      12 years ago

      Well you can move the club makers back to the good old USA but with the EPA and Government Supported Labor Unions be prepared to spend $1500 for those $899 irons. Great to be an American isn’t it?

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      Michael

      12 years ago

      I wanted to ditto the “move the manufacturing back to the USA” comments. It couldn’t possibly cost more to do that in comparison to the multi billions of dollars lost to allowing China to produce the product. Until the OEM’s make that decision they will have little CONTROL over the process. Secondly, with all the technology out there today and the very reasonable price paid for chips…………..a chip with the company’s own numbering id system on them inserted into the grip/face/hosel. The club could then be scaned by a reader at any retail location for verification of authenticity.

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      Nick

      12 years ago

      I agree with Michael on a point. Who really benefits from all this?

      The big companies have moved their production to China. Did any of them think of passing on the savings to us? As much as the golf industry would like to say its the customer, the fact that counterfeit clubs are selling well shows what choices we are making as a group. Market forces are in play and companies should get the message. If there is a market for budget clubs do something to address it. Price it at a reasonable level and give people value for their money.

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      don s

      12 years ago

      Purchased a G20 Ping driver from this website which turned out to be counterfeit. Because all of the major golf club manufacturers have China manufacture their golf club components it has been very easy for fakes to come out of their country. The golf club manufacturers are in my opinion largely responsible for the rampart counterfeiting that now exists.

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      Michael

      12 years ago

      My only question is Did they have a counterfeiting problem when they produced the clubs in the USA? They left the USA to make more money and di not pass the savings on to the consumer. They took a business risk since China is known for counterfeiting. The solution is simple move your production back to the USA. Instead Achusenet just opened a ball factory in Thailand to make Pro V1s and watch them complain about counterfeiting . Sorry second question if I make the club at the same factory as the original and send it out as different door is that counterfeiting or just stealing??

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      GolfSpy T

      12 years ago

      You’ve made some good suggestions, but here’s one of the biggest obstacles I see: A healthy percentage of counterfeits are bought and sold on eBay. The golf industry, much like the camera industry for example has very strict rules about minimum pricing. If an authorized retail outlet gets caught selling below MAP they risk losing their accounts.

      Of course the reality is that eBay provides these retailers with a larger audience and provides them the opportunity to move more product at discounted rates, and still make a healthy profit. My point is that legitimate eBay retailers who sell below MAP are probably not going to risk losing their OEM accounts by working with the OEMs and eBay to verified.

      Ultimately I think the solution may lie in the elimination of MAP pricing and simply letting the market dictate the price. I know it’s never going to happen, but until they find another way to make counterfeiting less lucrative, it’s really the only option.

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      Clubmaker

      12 years ago

      I have been making golf clubs for 64 years, and, there have been fake golf clubs around for about as long as I can remember, although it became much more prevalent when classic and antique golf clubs were at their peak, moneywise. I myself got stung on a Bobby Jones Calamity Jane putter, about 20 years ago, although I sold it for what I paid, to someone who didn’t care that it was a fake. David Graham, former U.S. Open champion, once brought several Tommy Armout 693 drivers to me, bragging that they had never been hit, and were worth a lot of money. Much more than the $400 he paid for them. I removed the sole plates, and found that whoever made them had put cold lead in the head and epoxied it in. What they didn’t know is that in those days, we poured hot lead into the holes and spread the lead out with a metal punch. Graham gave the clubs to a friend. In my estimation, there is a certain element of golfers who don’t care whether the clubs they buy are fake or not. Money is the deciding factor. These people also have a golf game that absolutely nothing will help to improve. The only way you can combat these vendors who deal with fake clubs, is to destroy all their merchandise when you locate them. I doubt that you will ever find the source of where they come from. Fake Rolex wrist watches were flooding the markets at one time, but, after they caught some vendors at flea markets, and other places , and destroyed hundreds of thousands of dollars of fake watches, the market died down, and the vendors went into the back alleys, where their sales nosedived markedly. Once again, there will always be fakes of most anything, and there will be dummies who buy them. I used to buy fake rolexes myself, for friends and relatives. Dumb me

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      Pat Polzin

      12 years ago

      How much money are the Big 5 making that they can afford to let this pass? This campaign should be 100% funded by them. Sick of helping people that won’t help themselves.

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      johnny

      12 years ago

      the real probably is the prices major manufactures charge, 500+ plus for a driver that is the same as the year before?
      thats the real problem, people can get replica that look the same and play pretty good ( i tried AP2 710 looks the same (had a sweet spot, went just as far as my titleist 735cm irons and the feeling was pretty good so to save over 500 and get close to the real thing is worth it if u ask me, im a regular golfer play about 3 times a week and to save 600 on irons that i could put towards a membership at a C.C. is worth it

      if the price was cheaper i would go for authentic, but for replica that play almost the same and are 70 percent less id rather take the replicas

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      rookieblue7

      12 years ago

      Caveat emptor always rules the day online. If it’s too good to be true, it most likely is. With that said, I don’t know that there’s a good way to fight fakes. Sure there are some equpiment junkies out there (myself being one of them) and we do our due diligence. There are far more casual golfers out there that just buy something and do so by finding the best deal possible. The only true way is to educate the masses, including in print, tv, etc. Buy an ad during the Masters, it’s the most watched major of the year. Purchase ads in major publications, on their websites, etc. The big 4 or 5, or however you see the involved manufacturer’s status in the industry are the ones funding this project, and they can afford to purchase the ads. Awareness is the #1 way to curb the counterfeit industry. The secondary market isn’t flooded with fakes, but the new market is. They could shut websites down and that’d be the most effective way to shut the counterfeitters down. I had some fun with a counterfeit site just today that’s selling the AP2’s. The online chat feature is one dead giveaway, especially when there’s no live operators to speak to when you call their phone #. I messed with the chick so much that she finally ended the conversation immediately after I sent her a message in Chinese text that said I ran an IP search on the chat window and that she was in China and that I’ve reported the website to the US Government internet fraud division. The conversation was ended in less than 20 seconds and I’ve been blocked from utilizing their chat feature again (cause I was gonna mess with her again, ask about their Halloween sale they’re advertising and ask her what she was dressing up as (I say she because the chat window popped up with the name Lindsay as the operator).

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      anthony

      12 years ago

      PERSONALLY I HATE FAKES BUT THEIR EVERYWHERE A LOT OF THE LOCAL SHOPS HAVE USED ONES BUNCH IN AMONG THE GOOD ONES,I HAVE PEOPLE COME TO ME WITH COPIES THAY TELL ME WERE THAY GOT THEM AND IT ANT THE NET ITS LOCAL SHOPS.WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS ALL THOSE COMPANIES THAT YOU MENTIONED BUILD AND MAKE THERE CLUBS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND CREATE LOCAL EMPLOYMENT.THE COMPANIES THAT ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH COPIES ALL MOVED TO CHINA FOR CHEEP LABOR SO WHY SHOULD WE HELP THEM? MOVE YOUR COMPANIES BACK HOME WE NEED THE WORK THE MORE PEOPLE THAT WORK THE MORE PEOPLE WILL BUY CLUBS GET IT.BUY LOCAL BARGAIN TO GET A BETTER PRICE AND ASK WERE THE CLUBS ARE MADE .

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      Sliq

      12 years ago

      Contrary to what someone may have told you, caps lock is NOT cruise control for cool.

      Xamilo

      12 years ago

      People say “well, what about the second hand market”? If we all help by not buying new counterfeits, there will be less and less in the second hand market every time. These people only benefit from the “new clubs”, so fighting their income source is the way to take them down.

      Unfortunately, as posted in the forum in this same topic, we are guilty of looking at too good to be true bargains, and giving them a shot to save some money.

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      Bret

      12 years ago

      On the Education issue – They could easily run some tests on the real club vs counterfeits Iron Byron to show how the performance is compromised (assuming it is).

      Totally agree they need to make consumer verification of clubs much easier and more transparent. I don’t like the ‘text it once and forever after it says error’ method though. How about an open registration of golf club serials? Anybody – current owner, potential buyer, could dump the serials into the website and it’d show the history of the club. Date of manufacture, State of original sale, transfers of ownership, etc.

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      mygolfspy

      12 years ago

      Serial numbers are not a viable solution. Counterfeiters already figured that one out. That is why I recommended them doing this in house in the post.

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      Mike French

      12 years ago

      Clubfax–just like Carfax

      Tim

      12 years ago

      I like it. I wonder though if these companies are viewing it like a retail store and just aknowleding that as a part of being in business, they will lose a certain percentage each month/year to this?

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