Hey Siri, Did Arccos Just Get a Whole Lot Better? Hell Yes, it did.
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Hey Siri, Did Arccos Just Get a Whole Lot Better? Hell Yes, it did.

Hey Siri, Did Arccos Just Get a Whole Lot Better? Hell Yes, it did.

It’s damn near 2019. If you’re not using some sort of advanced stat/shot tracking system, you’re doing it wrong. At the very least, you’re doing your game a disservice. You can be sure that PGA Tour Pros and their coaches are heavily leveraging Shotlink data to identify weaknesses in their games. Claude Harmon III asks of all his students to use Arccos because the system, along with the accessory Coaching Portal, allows him (and other instructors) to see what the golfer is doing outside the typical coaching environment.

Even without professional help, Arccos will help average golfers identify weaknesses in their games. Take me, for example. I’ve got 2+ years of Arccos data that all but proves that I couldn’t find a green with Magellan on my bag. At least I know what to work on.

The point is that this is the era of big data, and all that big data can help you shoot lower scores. According to Arccos, in 2017, Arccos users improved their handicap by an average of 3.55 strokes. Context; that’s 46.7x faster than the average golfer with a USGA handicap. This year, improvement increased to an average of 3.79 strokes. Perhaps that’s a statistical anomaly, or perhaps it’s evidence that not only do shot tracking systems work, they’re getting better.

It’s within that spirit of getting better that Arccos has rolled out version 3.2 of its Arccos Caddie (previously known as Arccos 360) platform. The update, which on the surface may not appear all that significant, takes a major step in addressing one of the last remaining weaknesses of the system. That opens the door to even greater accuracy, and with that, the potential for users to have even greater insight into their games.

Dude, Where’s my Flag?

In my opinion, the greatest weakness in the Arccos system is that it doesn’t always know where the flag is. The software has a damn good algorithm that allows it to make a better than well-educated guess, but from time to time, the estimates weren’t exactly spot-on. Consequently, it was on the user to position the flag, often after the fact, and just as often without much precision. That had a trickle-down effect in Arccos’ stats.

Vague flag locations mean imprecise first putt distances. If you don’t know the first putt distance, you don’t really know how good (or bad) your approach shot was. As I said, the algorithms are good, but knowing exactly where the flag is, well that’s just better.

To that end, Arccos has introduced Crowd-sourced hole locations. The new feature allows any golfer using Arccos Caddie to update the hole location before, during, or after the round. A degree of manual intervention is still required, but when one golfer does it, it sets the location for every Arccos user who plays the course that day.

That functionality is, to no small degree, made possible by the newly enhanced flag editing. It perhaps sounds fancier than it is. In practice, it’s a better zoom feature. The larger green view allows for more precise pin setting, provides putt distances, and makes it easier to add and edit putts.

Again, that trickles down. More accurate flag locations make for more accurate putting stats, which make for more accurate approach stats.

Siri Shortcuts

For iPhone users, Arccos Caddie now offers a Siri Shortcut feature. Siri can now take some of the manual overhead out of using the Arccos system. As you begin using the updated app and encounter different on-course scenarios, you’ll be prompted to add Siri Shortcuts. Arccos will make suggestions, but the actual phrasing is entirely up to you. So, while Arccos will suggest “add a duff” to cover those instances where you chunk a shot; if you prefer a more direct approach, “Hey Siri, I suck” should work just fine.

Other examples include recommend club (based on Caddie info), add a missed drive, and – here it is again – “Hey Siri, mark a hole location”.

The value of all of this ultimately depends on how smoothly it works on the course, but in theory, what Arccos is giving us is a straightforward method for marking the flag as precisely as GPS allows for. This is definitely a big deal.

More Good Things to Come

By the calendar, Arccos 3.2 is arriving just a few weeks early, but the small but significant improvements are the first in what’s shaping up to be a big 2019 for the platform. At least one other OEM will join Cobra in offering an Arccos option with its club line, more robust Apple watch functionality is in the pipeline, as is an accessory device that will eliminate the need to keep your phone in your pocket, though as I’ve said before, is an overblown problem. It’s the kind of thing you get used to quickly and don’t even notice after a few rounds.

Arccos 3.2 for iPhone is available now (mine auto-updated yesterday), and we anticipate several more noteworthy enhancements to the system in the coming months.

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      Gerald Teigrob

      5 years ago

      I play Cobra Bio Cell irons and don’t have Arccos. So I have no idea where my consistent misses are…depends on the wind or whether or not a water hazard claims another victim. Unlike four or five years ago, I tend to not see a lot of consistency on where my misses are unless I go back to my old bad habits – a slice/fade. Hopefully next year the clubs and yardage markers won’t shortchange me or I will continue to struggle. I had so few games beyond twelve holes…actually I only played 12 holes max at my home course. So I never gave myself a chance to beat the mere 95 I had as my best on the par 66 course. Trust me though, for an executive score-like golf course, this doesn’t play like it…par can still make the course play like a par 70 course! What I learned was that my game isn’t far off from the extra games I played last year…I just need to play more rounds with other than family. I played better on my own than with family…including my first birdie on a par 3 hole in a couple of years! If Arccos is going to be able to adjust to my game, hopefully it will be a free app for those of us in between jobs.

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      Dave S

      5 years ago

      Have no idea what the point of this post was, but to your last statement, why on earth would Arccos spend thousands of hours and (likely) millions of dollars on R&D, to develop a hardware and software platform like this, then give it away for free? Should the point of their BUSINESS not be to MAKE MONEY? Sheesh. Everyone wants a handout these days….

      Reply

      Gerry T

      5 years ago

      Cost comes with a jacked up price. I am looking for a set of Arccos trackers that don’t cost more than my clubs. Not everyone has the luxury of a year round job! Money is an issue so in order for me to arrange to get this tracker, I have to find ways of finding money that comes as pocket change to you and others who keep paying the piper. Money doesn’t grow on trees last i checked… we’re tight enough as it is without struggling to justify paying $320 CDN plus tax. If I can find something in my price range I will get it…otherwise the other distance tracker where you touch your belt is on sale. We will see which one works out to be the better deal for us regular joes.

      Fozcycle

      5 years ago

      Thanks for the well written update Tony. I have over 6 months usage with Arccos and am happily awaiting the arrival of the iwatch app.

      Reply

      ColinS

      5 years ago

      Ive had Arccos for a few years. It is much more dependable now. I have grips with sensors in them which I like much more then the button sticking out of the grip. I like having the phone as part of the system. I can see a gps view of the hole, where the water, bunkers are etc. When I hit off line and can’t see the green I can click on the green on my phone and see the line to take over a certain hill or tree. It will show you wind speed and elevation change and tell you the real distance. Cant use in a tournament but sure helps during a casual round. The stats are right on, I never surprised but its very interesting. I also share stats with my pga pro, eg driver misses are 30% left and 20 % right 50% fairway. It helps him know how to fix my misses. Not for everyone but I love it.

      Reply

      Pete S

      5 years ago

      I’m thinking this may be a good reason to purchase this system first and then take it to a coach.

      Reply

      Paul

      5 years ago

      With as sweaty as I get in the summer here, the last thing I want is my phone getting sweaty in my pocket. Ugh. Adapting to iPhone watch is cool, but I won’t be spending $400 on a watch just to use this. Great updates it sounds like, intriguing for sure!

      Reply

      Jay P. Emm

      5 years ago

      You know the Shot Scope watch has had data about pins and put distances for a while. Before you leave a green, you collect the pin location and then when you upload you get data on approach shot proximity to pin and putt data (length of 1st, 2nd, 3rd — dare we include 4th!!!) and percent made based on distance.

      To be sure, it only knows the pin after you have reached the green but a laser rangefinder does that as good and as easily as anything else out there. Plus, you don’t have to play around with a phone during the round.

      Reply

      Evan

      5 years ago

      Is there any word on new tag hardware being introduced soon? I ask because I’m seeing a lot of both the tags & Arcoss grips being discounted fairly heavily right now.

      Reply

      Joel

      5 years ago

      I use a canvas phone holder (holds the phone horizontal) – available at Amazon, Home Depot, etc – that I clip to the front of my belt on the left side and it works fine. Since I’m right handed, the case is more stationary on the left so it doesn’t flip around when I swing.

      Reply

      Grant McPhail

      5 years ago

      I would really like to see an analysis and comparison of the various apps available. Is that out there somewhere?

      Reply

      10shot

      5 years ago

      Hummmm,

      Being near data, apps, VM and many other items for today’s IoT, I will say this.
      Excluding over half your potential users is a bad idea in today’s, Here today gone tomorrow tech world.
      You launch an APP, you go both ways DRIOD an “i” not just one. this will not be a successful adventure..IMO
      Why, you already PO’d over half your user. This is common knowledge stuff here. This is 1st year design class info.

      Reply

      Richard H.

      5 years ago

      It is significantly easier to design and verify compatibility for iOS because of fragmentation. Android has long suffered from its open-platform design because there are simply too many versions running on too many devices with various equipment specifications. This has always been the case.

      That said, I didn’t read anything in the article that stated limited or no compatibility with Android. The author only stated that the update is currently available on his iPhone and that there are a few features limited to Apple products. I’ve not owned an Android for maybe 4 years now, but I have no reason to believe all of the aforementioned features could not be added to Android at a later date, but development will take longer because of fragmentation as previously explained.

      Reply

      TR1PTIK

      5 years ago

      Here’s all you need to know about why you’re wrong.

      https://www.statista.com/chart/5930/adoption-of-ios-and-android-versions/

      The first thing any developer worth their salt is concerned with is device compatibility. Apple makes this pretty easy whereas Android’s open-platform design ensures 100% compatibility is nearly impossible to achieve. There are too many versions of Android in operation on too many devices of varying specs with custom UI’s from the likes of Samsung, LG, etc., etc. for developers to reasonably keep up.

      That said, I didn’t read anything that stated they would not support Android with the new update so it’s entirely possible they could launch something at a later date for devices that meet a certain criteria.

      Reply

      10shot

      5 years ago

      An to think, I though we we’re interested in selling it. You do realize open source just sold for 34 Billions right. It sold to the finest USA company ever IBM. The world is open source not my way or the highway i.e APPLE phones. They are a major player as well, in OPEN source cloud. See their phone/gadget business is like Amazons on-line stores. They both pay for the their real quest, DATA storage, usage and Ai.
      The hyper-visors we build are not for 1 vendor they are for everybody. We use these things called API’s, it works with everybody…really cool. We could discuss more but you’ll have to read a whole lot more useless stories, 300+ semester hours and 27+ years in the IT biz.
      Peace out

      Rob

      5 years ago

      You hear the same argument in reverse when an App comes out in Android version only at launch with the I-Phone to be added. So it goes both ways. I have to assume the developers at these companies know a lot more than you and I when they bring a product to launch with one ahead of the other.

      Reply

      TR1PTIK

      5 years ago

      Since there is no reply option under your other post, I’ll leave this here.

      https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/28/18035086/ibm-red-hat-acquisition-open-source-cloud-software-company

      So IBM purchased a company that uses an open-source platform (like Android). You can’t “buy” open-source as your post incoherently suggests because open-source is merely a construct.

      I struggle to understand your rant anyway as the conversation was specifically about iOS vs. Android app development. Also, yes I’m well aware of what API’s are as I actually have coding experience.

      As Rob mentioned below, it goes both ways and some apps are only available on Android. It’s up to the developer. But generally speaking, one of the most often cited reasons for developing on iOS instead of or before developing for Android is fragmentation of devices and operating system. That is all. Sorry to ruffle your feathers.

      Reply

      zmangolf

      5 years ago

      This new update is available on both iOS and Android.

      Reply

      Gerald Teigrob

      5 years ago

      Sadly for those of us who don’t have the luxury of Cobra Connect for Arccos, we have to pluck down $180 or $120 USD for some app that might or might not work? There must be a simpler way of tracking data. I am not old school so entering in data manually doesn’t fit my style so the 18Birdies app is inept for me in some ways. Until there is justification that $180 or less is worth it, I don’t know if can just pluck down that kind of money. And with current app ratings at 2 and 3 out of 5, that tends to make me wonder how this is a wise investment. And to quote my wife on this…it is a want and not a need at this point…until Arccos fixes the issues it seems to have with lower ratings. I downloaded the Arccos Caddie and driverapps, but unlike Fitbit, I am not sure it’s worth using if you can’t afford the Arcc9s trackers. I might see if I can get a deal on them at Golf Town or something similar. Otherwise I am stuck with 18Birdies.

      Gerry T

      5 years ago

      I found a slighly used set of Arccos trackers for $200 or so online. I am sure that in just a matter of time I will be able to purchase that after selling some of my club inventory. Glad others are enjoying their Arccos experience…i look forward to joining you asap.

      Patrick

      5 years ago

      I wonder how much of the quoted improvement is a correlation vs. causation issue. I don’t doubt that the data allows for increased *precision* in knowing where to focus limited practice time, but I would guess that the type of golfer who is looking to track every shot is more likely to improve their GHIN anyway, and would likely already know what areas need the most growth (and therefore would show that growth in their shrinking handicap). For instance, did you need an app to tell you the specific percentage of greens you were missing, or did you generally already know you could stand to improve in that area? My guess is you already knew, with the actual percentage maybe being a bit eye opening but not earth-shattering.

      I’m not trying to troll here, I just think in the big data era there are countless examples of data mining that comes up with “novel, breakthrough” analysis and conclusions that are sold for a pretty penny that turn out to be spurious correlation. I am open for additional insight that would make me reconsider spending some of my limited budget on something like this, though!

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      TR1PTIK

      5 years ago

      I’ve been playing for years and have tried numerous ways to lower my score and collect data from my rounds – including tracking scores and traditional stats via pen and paper. Using a stat tracker made all of that significantly easier while also providing additional insight. For starters, I know my club distances much better – good, bad, and great – and strokes gained really opened my eyes to just how much improvement was needed in the weak areas of my game. I may have always known I didn’t hit a lot of greens, but seeing it presented through strokes gained really put a spotlight on it. It also gave me an easy way to track progress and recognize the cause and effect of a good short game as well (my best putting metrics came when I put the ball closer to the hole with an approach or short game shot). It might all seem rather intuitive, but having it on display will really open your eyes. Worth the investment IMO, but Arccos just didn’t quite do it for me the first time around. I plan on going back to Game Golf or maybe give Shot Scope a try.

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      Patrick

      5 years ago

      Thanks for the insight!

      TR1PTIK

      5 years ago

      Almost makes me wish I hadn’t ditched Arccos so soon, but too many mapping issues and inconsistent tags for me. I also did not like having my phone in my pocket after making the switch from Game Golf. It’s not likely I’d see much benefit from the crowd-sourced hole location either as not many golfers in my area use a stat tracker or even pen and paper to collect data and analyze their game.

      Reply

      Joe

      5 years ago

      I had too many issues with missed tags. It would only tag about 30% of my shots so I would end up with 570 yard drives with stats all screwed up. Had to quit using. Just too frustrating.

      Reply

      Andrew Han

      5 years ago

      You guys did a comparison between game golf and arccos a few years back. There seems to be more competition and improvements/innovations, are you doing a most wanted shot tracker/tagging platform?

      Reply

      Pete S

      5 years ago

      Any idea when they will update the Android App?

      Reply

      Arccos

      5 years ago

      Hi Pete,

      The Android app has been updated! Please check the Google Play Store for the latest app update.

      Reply

      Gerald Teigrob

      5 years ago

      Considering how long this technology has been around, how come my Bio Cell irons didn’t include this? I picked up some new red Bio Cell 4. 5, and 6 irons but have yet to see that Arccos technology come standard? Most of us can only afford clubs or the technology trackers. Thanks!

      Martin

      5 years ago

      How does this compare to the new Game Golf Pro which is due for release?

      Reply

      Mel Woolf

      5 years ago

      Still not buying an Iphone. Want better Android support. Will keep using Golfpad.

      Reply

      MWGolf23

      5 years ago

      I agree. Any word on updated Android support/equal functionality?

      Reply

      Johnny Cowboy

      5 years ago

      Do you not like iphone or is it just Apple hate?

      Reply

      James

      5 years ago

      Relax Mr. Cowboy. Last time I checked there are more Android phones out there than iPhones. Just a fact.

      Johnny Cowboy

      5 years ago

      I am seriously interested. Have you had an Iphone and didn’t like it or are you just an adroid fanboy/fangirl? Not trying to troll.

      Arccos

      5 years ago

      Hi Mel,

      The Arccos Golf system features apps available on the Apple App Store and Google Play.

      Compatible iOS devices include: iPhone 5s and above, running iOS 11.0 and above.

      Compatible on select Android devices running Nougat and above that include a gyroscope and accelerometer.

      Reply

      Corey

      5 years ago

      Looks like some nice and well thought out improvements. I went with Shot Scope V2 so I wouldn’t have to keep my phone in my pocket, but if they remove that requirement in a future update that will be huge.

      Hopefully Shot Scope will add some new features to their iPhone app soon to keep up with the competition.

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      Jon

      5 years ago

      Couldn’t agree more. How the hell are we supposed to play with a phone in our front pocket FFS. That’s nuts. Went to Shotscope and have never looked back. Just a better product all round.

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      Kevin

      5 years ago

      I have to say that Shot scope seems to be a better product IMO. Why? Don’t have to keep a phone in your pocket. Just wear the watch. Also, my understanding of Arcos is they require a battery in the club tag. The Shot Scope tags are completely passive. I have yet to have it miss a shot. Pretty remarkable. I think I have about 20 full rounds with it. The info is very good. The strength isn’t in determining your average shot distances because all shots are recorded. That includes your duffs, your knockdowns or 3/4 swings and chips as well as into the wind, with the wind etc. The data helps with greens in regulation, shots left vs right, average up and downs, sand saves, avg putts, etc. I really love the device. So much better than game golf which I somehow forgot to tag my shot all the time. You just play golf, although you still have to mark the pin location to get accurate putting data. So I guess Arcos shines a little there with the new upgrade. Although quite frankly I would probably be the first on my course to mark the pin each day so it wouldn’t do much for me.

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      Har in the hat

      5 years ago

      Tony
      Thanks for another great article.
      This definitely ups the ante.
      As a recent puchaser of SS. It’ll be interesting to see how they react to this.

      Reply

      brown58 hound

      5 years ago

      I started with green stripe arccos, moved to arccos 360 and now also have shotscope v2. Bought them all rather cheap, slightly used. If you can stand the big GPS on your wrist then shotscope v2 is excellent. I delayed purchase for awhile but actually find the GPS watch quite useful now. I have not worn it in the hot summer, maybe too much sweat at that time. I still forget to record my putts but its getting better. Pretty easy to edit the round on PC to add the putts.

      Arccos “seemed” to miss fewer shots with the old green stripe sensors as compared to the 360 sensors. Arccos android app will quickly run down your phone battery. The arccos iphone app is excellent.

      I prefer the arccos PC post round analysis but both of them are passable. I enjoy seeing the long drive distances when the ground is hard and the wind is at my back !

      I’ve always tracked basic stats and used laser rangefinder, hit on launch monitor during winter months. I have a pretty good idea of how far I hit it with expected ball flight. What we all need is a putting trainer that doesn’t cost thousands of dollars.

      Thx MGS, keep up the good work

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