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Japanese Golf Clubs: Just Collector’s Items?

Several months ago, I posed the question: “Where did all the Japanese golf brands go?”

Part of the answer assumes a North America-centric viewpoint. And though brands like Yonex, Yamaha, Vega, FourteenONOFFPRGR and Honma have largely vanished from the U.S. landscape, they’re not extinct. Well, not entirely.

That said, if I consult my crystal ball, it portends a bleak outlook, at best.

So You’re Saying There’s A Chance?

Sort of. But it begs a deeper dive into two important topics.

First is a discussion regarding the prototypical JDM (Japanese domestic market) consumer. Second, we must assess how the global equipment market has changed over the last decade and what that might mean for JDM brands moving forward.

The JDM Consumer

The target buyer for JDM equipment (primarily single-piece forged irons and wedges) isn’t uniformly different in 2022 than in 2012. However, compelling reasons to support the premium price tag are dwindling. Put differently, we’re running out of objective reasons to justify spending the extra dough.

It used to be that Japanese golf clubs sat as the industry’s zenith of high quality coupled with high performance. The engineering prowess in Japan was ahead of other markets. And by many measures, the product was quantifiably better—regardless of how one might choose to define the term.

Golfers who could afford the elevated prices were rewarded with equipment that was superior in terms of materials, design, spec tolerance, and finish. And we can’t ignore the draw that luxury goods represent as something unique and special. Call it ego or vanity. It still sells.

Japanese Golf Clubs

But the rest of the world has caught up. A race where Japan was once comfortably ahead is now, at best, a dead heat. At worst, it’s a case where the superior craftsmanship and attention to detail are isolated to irons and wedges that are designed to fit only a small percentage of skilled golfers.

If I really want to get melancholy, it’s fair to argue that the only current, true differentiating element of JDM equipment is that it allows some golfers to rep a brand that others won’t recognize. It’s a pair of red-bottom Louboutins in the DSW Shoe Warehouse discount bin. It’s becoming a distinction without much difference.

To be clear, it’s not that JDM equipment has regressed. More so, it’s that the rest of the world has continued to progress. And it’s not that JDM materials, processes, or tolerances aren’t exceptional. They are. But the same now can be said for plenty of manufacturers, many of which exist outside Japan.

The Curious Case of Miura

Japanese Golf Clubs

Miura isn’t in the same category as a brand like Fujimoto or Seven. It also isn’t akin to the North American branch of Mizuno. In a sense, Miura is perhaps the bridge between the original and modern versions of JDM.

Prior to the arrival of PXG (you’ll see why this is important in a minute), Miura was one of the most well-known and desired brands of japanese golf clubs. It was also uber expensive (roughly two to three times the going rate of domestic brands like Mizuno, TaylorMade, and Titleist).

(Side note: The Miura CB-57 still sits on my Mt. Rushmore of player’s cavity-back irons.)

Then, in 2017, billionaire Howard Milstein acquired the rights to distribute Miura Golf in North America and abroad—essentially anywhere outside of Japan. The charge was never to mass-produce Miura equipment. That said, in the last four years, Miura has grown substantially while selling every iron, wedge, and putter it can manufacture. If anything, Miura could likely raise prices and likely still sell through its entire inventory.

When PXG broached the equipment scene the year prior to Milstein’s investment in Miura, the industry had no idea how to react. Beyond PXG’s signature rivets and brash TV and radio spots, PXG altered the definition of “expensive.” Prior to PXG, a mainstream iron at $300 or more per club was unthinkable. Now it’s still expensive but in the way a Yeti cooler or Hydro Flask water bottle is expensive. Ultimately, PXG helped normalize a price point that previously seemed out of reach.

By adding a new, budget-friendly line and discounting in-line equipment routinely, PXG isn’t exclusively the high-end, luxury brand it was at its inception. But what PXG unearthed was a robust segment of golfers that didn’t balk at a $4,000 set of irons. In fact, they welcomed it.

By formalizing a global distribution strategy and adding an e-commerce platform, Miura has capitalized on this increase in demand which, oddly enough, is due in large part to the advent and success of PXG. What a world, eh?

Japanese Market Dynamics

The market for Japanese golf clubs still exists but it’s shrinking. It’s no longer a discussion of performance but primarily preferences. Measurable technologies are different now than 10 years ago. Instead of guessing about performance, devices like the Foresight GC Quad can measure it with exacting precision.

If “Video Killed the Radio Star,” then maybe the launch monitor has ultimately the same impact on smaller JDM manufacturers.

(Another side note: “Video Killed the Radio Star” was the first video aired on MTV. So there’s that. Feel free to use this frequently in casual conversation over the holidays.)

Japanese industry excels at taking a product and making it better. But it’s not the bastion of innovation. At times, this reluctance to modernize and change has frustrated consumers and ultimately caused the Japanese to fall behind. Consider the automotive brand Toyota. Consumers laud it for being trustworthy, reliable, and consistent. For the record, I owned a 2001 4Runner with more than 300,000 miles on it. But innovating and cutting edge? Not so much. Toyota’s 5.7 V8 engine with 381 horsepower was quite impressive … in 2007. Toyota didn’t update the powertrain until nearly a decade and a half later.

Japanese Golf Clubs

From a design perspective, JDM equipment is created to look perfect and exemplify style. In a word, beautiful. But the more technical and engineered a product is, the less Japan can compete. This is less of a concern with muscle-back and smaller cavity-back irons where consumers tend to care more about subjective elements such as shaping, sole width, topline, blade length and offset.

That aside, Japan hasn’t invested in advanced materials and designs the same way that Titleist, Callaway, TaylorMade, PING, COBRA and Mizuno have. What’s less clear is whether Japan has a desire or plan to try and catch up. My hunch? Probably not.

Case in point: Look at the last decade and particularly “player’s distance” and game-improvement iron technologies. The biggest brands have evolved these categories and advanced them to a position that one might question when, if ever, Japan will produce something equivalent to Mizuno’s MP 225 or the Titleist T200.

My $0.05

Like Natalie Imbruglia, “nothing’s fine, I’m torn.”  I love JDM equipment and I appreciate the nuance and design elements that give it an unmistakable flavor and resonance. Moreover, if my skill allows, I’ll be damned if I don’t have a set of Mizuno, Miura or Proto Concept irons in the bag.

Hell, even if my game doesn’t warrant it, I don’t know if I can move off the attraction of a clean cavity-back with minimal offset, thin topline, and rounded toe.

But I have a growing concern that the business culture surrounding smaller brand Japanese golf clubs aren’t compatible with the world of modern business. It’s already a very limited market and now exceptionally engineered equipment is available at lower price points through a number of retail channels, including an expansive e-commerce network.

And yet, I can’t wait to hit the Miura MC-502 and put it head-to-head with the Mizuno MP 64 and Proto Concept C01. It’s a sickness but I’m not searching for a remedy.

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Chris is a self-diagnosed equipment and golf junkie with a penchant for top-shelf ice cream. When he's not coaching the local high school team, he's probably on the range or trying to keep up with his wife and seven beautiful daughters. Chris is based out of Fort Collins, CO and his neighbors believe long brown boxes are simply part of his porch decor. "Isn't it funny? The truth just sounds different."

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      Art Springsteen

      1 year ago

      Many years ago, on a business trip to FL, I bought a set of Mizuno MP-32 blades on a whim- an expensive whim. I had them shipped to me in Myrtle Beach where i was headed next. I kept them in my bag for 8 years and loved them- best irons I played in 40+ years. Alas, I’ve gotten old and need something more forgiving now. On Chris’s comment on Toyota, when I asked my local mechanic (in NH, where the weather is not always fine!) what he recommended for a reliable car. The answer was (you guessed it) Toyota, followed by Honda. Those are what he sees the least for routine repairs. I’ve driven just about any vehicle you can think of, and the RAV4 Hybrid I have now fits his descriptioon of a reliable car. Not very exciting, admittedly but it gets me from here to there in just about any weather.

      Reply

      Erik

      1 year ago

      Interesting, informative, well-written article. Thanks!

      Reply

      WBN

      1 year ago

      I have the XXIO hybrids and for me they are above anything I have tried. I also have Mizuno irons that beat out the Callaway Apex DCB irons. I recently bought a PRGR Egg driver. It is very comparable to my Titleist TSi driver but the Titleist is in the bag. I bleieve the Japanese market is more into quality and detail than our market. Our market has a much larger advertising bill to pay.

      Reply

      Bogeyboy

      1 year ago

      I demo’d he Fourteen Golf TC7 irons and loved them, but didn’t love the price. I ended up going to Sub70 639CB irons and I’m not disappointed.

      BTW….any guesses as to the second video played on MTV?

      Time Heals by Todd Rundgren.

      Reply

      JRO

      1 year ago

      You Better Run – Pat Benatar. Also the fist song with a guitar solo played on MTV.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_first_music_videos_aired_on_MTV

      Reply

      Nocklaus

      1 year ago

      You talk here like Mizuno isn´t a japanese brand. Calling it a domestic brand. Why…?

      Reply

      Chris Nickel

      1 year ago

      Mizuno is certainly a Japanese brand, but not exclusively JDM. A couple of reasons – Mizuno for a long time operated as essentially three branches of the same brand – Japan, Europe and the US. This often meant that each market had different similar product with different names, different products with similar names or products that were only available in that market,.

      A great example is the Yoro custom program…you could also look at the “Mizuno Pro” font/script that wasn’t available in North American until the current line. So, while the Japan branch of Mizuno functioned more or less as a true JDM brand (until recently), the other two markets better reflected the golfers in those geographic locations.

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      Gerry T

      1 year ago

      I used Mizuno MP-57 irons a few years back during our driving range days. I wasn’t impressed with them because of the negative experience I had with them. The JPX game improvement irons would be a different story. Having seen Adams Golf join with TaylorMade and fade away, I ‘m now hopeful about Cobra Golf. TaylorMade is also a favorite of mine. To each his own. PXG doesn’t move my needle. Not big on the hype there…and when your irons could double up as farm implements, don’t expect me to roll over.

      Reply

      Max R

      1 year ago

      8 love my PRGR Black. Without a doubt,, this simple and inexpensive device is what the majority of golfers need. Period! The rest are all hype and only suitable for golf fitters and Pros!

      Reply

      mackdaddy9

      1 year ago

      I was devoted to my KZG irons and now can’t find anywhere to get them. I ended up getting fit to some PXG gen 3 and love them. Same buttery feel on pure shot and feedback on misses just less penal.

      Reply

      Chris Nickel

      1 year ago

      Yeah, original ZO blades were fantastic!

      Reply

      Matt

      11 months ago

      Kyoei made the forgings for kzg. You could take a look at the new kyoei stuff. It’s exceptional.

      Reply

      D

      1 year ago

      Another dooming statistic – the declining Japanese population. It might be too late to puncture the international markets. If they don’t move quick, they’re all gone.

      Reply

      W

      1 year ago

      This is probably the most racist and misguided article ever written. It completely misunderstands the “globalisation” of markets and the costs of distribution, taxes across borders, trade agreements and exchange rates.
      You think the Japanese haven’t been making innovative clubs? You kidding?? For those who had been privileged enough to be able to have been travelling abroad for the last 5 decades and had been able to SEE THE WORLD, being able to buy goods abroad will tell you that you are so completely wrong and misguided and are simply guessing here on how things work than actually look at what had been produced and sold in the JDM for the past 50 years.
      This is unbelievable what you have written. Comparing cars and quoting pop songs than actually do research and look at the clubs that were made and sold and compare them side by side time by time to what was being sold at the same levels in the US market. Just even looking at the products in the 90s and 00s in Japan will show you that the current US ones over the last decade were literal COPIES of those that had been made 20 to 30 years ago for tbe JDM. From the Ryoma driver with the zero-CG lined with the face to the back (hello Cobra, TM), to the last couple iron designs of TM that are literally facsimile in looks of Honma, just as quick examples.
      Retract this article and write an another one. You’re way reaching, making assumptions and not actually examining the GLOBAL market influences and the way in which those markets and distribution of said products only recently opened up to this level with companies like EBay and Rakuten going global over the past decade – but that’s only because the markets and countries came to an agreement to allow it to happen, FFS.
      Grow up. You have no idea what you’re talking about and really should quit putting your face out in public like this. You’re blasphemous to the manufacturers and the Japanese people.

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      Jimmy

      1 year ago

      “This is probably the most racist and misguided article ever written.”

      lol… relax, guy

      Reply

      Josh

      1 year ago

      Dude –

      You’re clearly a well traveled Weeb. But the point of the article was that small, niche, handcrafted brands have a vanishing place in a marketplace dominated by tech. You’re triggering hard on the Fact that JDM brands of all shapes and sizes have a major problem in a globalized market.

      Honma still hand shapes their woods on a dead-tree form. That’s cool and all, but it’s stoneage compared to AI and Windtunnels. It’s like skis – you can still get a wooden set made with leather bindings, but if you show up to a downhill competition, you’re going to lose.

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      W

      1 year ago

      You obviously can’t read – why are you making assumptions and inferences into what was written here.
      “the article was that small, niche, handcrafted brands have a vanishing place in a marketplace dominated by tech” – no, it wasn’t. That was not the point being made. Don’t add stuff in your mind. All the article did was mention Miura. Miura has not been niche. It has always been one of the bigger, major, more expensive “brands.” There are hundreds of other small, niche companies in Japan that he failed to examine and mention.
      And then the article fails to examine Srixon-XXIO from 30 years ago, also Bridgestone-Tour Stage.
      Lest we forget the Financial Collapse of 2008 and ifs affect on how the moneys changed and how the global market changed subsequently which led to the opening up of EBay to the World, as well Rakuten, which led to the products worldwide being readily available for purchase online from a foreign country, which was not possible before then – and before the iPhones and Smartphones, which came about the same time in 2007/2008!
      The article’s lack of study of historical facts and significances in the global market is embarrassing and sad. Which is why I had to chime in.
      Go back to the decade before 2008 – which is why I mentioned 20, to 30 years ago – that’s even before Web 2.0 – and then before that time, before the Japanese market “Bubble” crash which would take us to the 80s – and think about what products were being sold around the world, and the racist and prejudiced “perceptions” still being touted and sold and used as a weapon to suppress – as you are seeing with China currently – all you could get your hands on were Japanese electronics – but why weren’t Japanese golf clubs being sold then, in the US? Examine that.
      Otherwise, shut up.

      Mark T.

      1 year ago

      Sounds like someone over-paid for Japanese clubs….a little defensive there?!? Lighten up Francis

      Reply

      Geoff

      1 year ago

      I didn’t think this article was racist at all…..I thought it was well written and made us all think which is a good thing nowadays.

      Reply

      Mike

      1 year ago

      All that anger! Did you take a quad on the last hole u played that day?

      Reply

      Chris Nickel

      1 year ago

      Josh gets an “A” for deducing that yes, one of the points of this article is that “small, niche, handcrafted brands have a vanishing place in a marketplace dominated by tech.”

      In fact, that is the primary thesis. And regardless of in which year you’d want to start the analysis, the current landscape remains the same. We still end up at the same point.

      And there’s no guarantee that my prediction is 100% correct. That doesn’t discount the fact that for a long time Japanese equipment and engineering ran ahead, though we didn’t have the same ability to quantify performance then as we did now. And that holds true for the 1950s, 60s, 70s, etc.

      We can talk about Royal Collection/Sonartec, Tour Stage, Ryoma, XXIO and many others – And no doubt we can find any number of examples that support my statement (one, I’d imagine even you’d have to agree with)

      “It used to be that Japanese golf clubs sat as the industry’s zenith of high quality coupled with high performance. The engineering prowess in Japan was ahead of other markets. And by many measures, the product was quantifiably better—regardless of how one might choose to define the term. ”

      Also, consider that the first Honma driver (TR 20) that measured up (and in some cases surpassed) industry stalwarts in our testing was a collaboration between a US design team (headed up by industry vets like Chris McGinley) that understood the performance demands of North American buyers and the team in Japan that strictly monitored the aesthetics. Then Honma reversed course, disbanded most of the NA team (executives, product design, PR/marketing) leaving barely a skeleton sales team to try and push the higher margin Beres line.

      The emergence of various e-comm platforms is absolutely a factor – and one Miura credits for its recent growth. And while Miura maybe recognized by JDM enthusiasts, it’s absolutely a niche brand considering the global market where TaylorMade, Callaway, PING, Cobra and Titleist account for roughly 90% of all equipment sales. Perhaps ironically, they’re also now the most played brands in Japan.

      Healthy debate and discourse is valuable. But labeling an article “racist” because you don’t agree with the premise or presentation should be beneath any reader.

      Happy Holidays.

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      Steve

      1 year ago

      Chris, I find that responding to folks who deduce things that aren’t apparent from what is said is a waste of time. A friend of mine recently said, “research can give you any answer you want as long as you ignore the evidence” or in this case the lack thereof. As a victim of subtle discrimination when I was young, I find nothing in your article that would point to it being racist. The fact that Japanese golf brands weren’t sold in the US in the 70’s and 80’s while electronics was, had nothing to do with racism but more about availability. Japanese electronics firms were massive suppliers of electronics everywhere in the world. Folks in Japan making and selling golf clubs were small by comparison. They apparently either were busy enough with the Japanese market and/or had no desire to try do develop sales channels in the US. Obviously Mizuno made that leap in the 90’s. Tiger played their clubs until his Nike deal and every golfer I know knew it. It’s how I heard of Mizuno and why I bought their irons in the late 90’s. But they never really advertised then. Bottom line is that most of us in the states only started hearing about the Japanese brands as they showed up on the web. And very rarely did we see the clubs in person. Hard to sell to golfers who can’t hold a club in their hand

      Josh

      1 year ago

      Just listened to No-Putts this week and love the callback!

      Erik

      1 year ago

      This is perhaps the most poorly conceived and worst google-translated comment I have ever seen.

      Reply

      Irish Assassin

      1 year ago

      Main reason Japanese clubs have started to disappear is price. I loved the look of some of the Miura brands but the price tags were crazy.
      I play Mizuno’s, for me they are still the best clubs to come out of Japan.

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      Chris Nickel

      1 year ago

      As I point out, there are a number of factors in place. No doubt, price is one of them. But I think the most compelling change is that the technology/engineering that once put Japan ahead of others is now available elsewhere, often at much lower prices.

      If price alone were the key factor, I doubt Miura would be doing as well as it is.

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      Kansas King

      1 year ago

      I like JDM stuff, but I’m not convinced that it ever performed better than what the large American companies were producing. It may have had tighter tolerances and better aesthetics but that is where I think the line actually stops. Titleist has been making equally well or better performing clubs since the ’90s. We don’t have launch monitor data for a lot of clubs from the ’90s and 2000’s. However, I think we would have seen a lot more pros using JDM clubs in that period if they were truly better.

      Sure there are sponsorships and all that jazz but there is very little proof that JDM clubs ever performed better. They surely had some great looking clubs but I don’t think they actually performed better. I’ve read that a few pros had their clubs made at special foundries but those were usually one-off designs for the specific pros like Tiger. They weren’t JDM designs as far as I know.

      Heck, look at the measurements (not the MPF rating) on Golfworks for the CB501s and you’ll soon realize that it would be extremely challenging to ever hit a club like that consistently well. The club was measure or releases in 2013. If you compare it to similar clubs from other manufacturers, you’ll see that muscle back blades from most traditional manufacturers would be significantly easier to hit well and consistently.

      I’m not absolutely trying to s**t on JDM clubs. I still love the look of them and I get the appeal. I myself thought the CB501s were my dream iron until the day I actually found demo iron to hit and realized they were some nasty butter knives to look down at. I would love nothing more than to have a set of CB501s or about any other Miura design on my wall to look at.

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      Eidolon

      1 year ago

      I have a set of Fourteens, best clubs I have ever owned. It’s apparent that most of the Japanese brands first mentioned do not get much coverage or testing by the golf rags. Maybe it’s because they do not advertise?

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      Michael Robins

      1 year ago

      I bought a set of Miura customised by Nick Hibbs at that time in Warrington UK he is now at Wigan.The irons from 4 to wedge cost an arm and a leg but was overjoyed with the results they gave me so then decided to purchase the Miura driver,don’t ask how much.Approximately six weeks later I had a minor stroke which affected my balance and hearing.I still have my irons and driver hoping my condition improves,but in the meantime I purchased a second hand set of Titleist AP 2’s.I dare not sell the Miura,’s just in case, my condition improves and I can use Miura’s again.

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      Billy O

      1 year ago

      Chris, what other models sit on your Mt. Rushmore of player’s cavity-back irons?

      Reply

      Chris Nickel

      1 year ago

      Yeah, great question! For me, it’s:

      Mizuno MP 64
      Miura CB 57
      Epon AF 302
      Tourstage Z 101

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      Azstu324

      1 year ago

      I too have a soft spot for the JDM market.. for the most part anyway. While I can take a hard pass on the overly busy and Uber pricy “status” type designs, it’s the hand-crafted, razor sharp eye for detail, and forging tradition meeting modern design, that really speaks to my soul with these smaller companies.

      In fact I just picked up a set of TourStage CB’s that I’ve wanted for a while. TourStage was another JDM staple in the mid 2k’s. Defunct, yet still fairly abundant in Japan today, they’re next to extinct here in the states and 99% of US golf enthusiasts have never heard of the brand that was a decade long domestic partner with Bridgestone.

      Is it possible that much of the JDM wants to stay right where it is? Super-Niche to the US, but selling just enough in the Japanese and Asian market to maintain a respectful relevancy? All the while retaining remembrance of their rooted forging heritage without muddying tradition? In the rock and roll world would brands like Honma or Vega, maybe even Miura be revered as sellouts to the hardcore traditionalists? Would one even consider Mizuno or Srixon Japanese companies any more?

      Will be interesting to see the feedback on this one. Personally, and selfishly, I say let the JDM stay tucked perfectly and pristinely where it is. One day when I own a set of Kyoei KCM Heritage blades, I actually want to know that there’s a good chance that I’m the only one in a 400 mile radius with them in the bag.

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      MarkM

      1 year ago

      Thanks Chris, it’ll be interesting to see how things go with JDM manufacturers.

      I play Honma T//W Rose Proto irons – got a SMOKIN deal a year after Justin bailed out of his contract. I know, I could make it “more fun” with more forgiving irons but I grew up playing blades and have always gravitated back. These irons are excellent!

      Keep warm Chris! It’s still -12° as I write this Brrrrrrrrrrrrrr

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      Steve S

      1 year ago

      The Japan domestic market has a problem. Their population is aging quickly. projections are by 2030-2035 more than half their population will be over 60. Their birthrate is at 50% of replacement rate. If they don’t compete elsewhere they won’t be around. To bad. I like Homna clubs and play the TR20 and BeZeals before that. Got them all well below list prices.

      Reply

      George

      1 year ago

      Honma 747 & now 757 series are power packed ! Tons of innovation. Open your eyes.

      Reply

      Brad Houghton

      1 year ago

      Got a great deal on a set of Honma 757vx irons. Got 5 rounds in with them before the snow flew. Love them so far. Long, forgiving and soft feel. Can’t wait to hit them again!!

      Reply

      Robert

      1 year ago

      Miura CB202
      I have a full set (5-PW) with Aerotech SteelFiber i80 Shafts, VERY GOOD condition. Back surgery, must sell.

      Reply

      Dipesh Patel

      1 year ago

      Hi,

      Please let me know when you’re available to share the details with me. Thanks

      Reply

      Aldo

      1 year ago

      i have been gaming Bridgestone J15 CB irons for the past few years. I love the clean look and feel. I have tried other irons on the market that were great but not enough to displace the J15’s.

      Reply

      Aldo, P

      1 year ago

      I have a set of Fourteens, best clubs I have ever owned. Aldo your first name or second?

      Reply

      Geoff

      1 year ago

      Fascinating article. Well done. I want to demo Miura now. Great read. ????????

      Reply

      Chris Nickel

      1 year ago

      If this is an area of interest to you and you haven’t hit a Miura iron, it’s absolutely a “must try.”

      Reply

      Chet

      1 year ago

      Interesting article, Chris.
      Two things. – My sister and I were watching when MTV came on the air. First the little astronaut on the Moon with the MTV flag and then WHAM! Video Killed The Radio Star!

      Second – One of the problems IMO with the JDM brands is the same problem the US Car manufacturers had back in the late 70’s early 80’s. The US car manufactures didn’t understand the Japanese market. Same thing today with the JDM brands and the US market. One thing they all failed at was waiting so long to send us clubs with “real” grips. They stuck to their silly skinny grips for so long that their clubs were always expensive but “felt” cheap because of the skinny grip. I know you could order them with any grip you wanted but the test clubs and the off the rack clubs all had that skinny grip and felt like a cheap club.

      They’ve learned recently that the skinny grip is not accepted in the US market. But it’s late in the game and perceptions are what perceptions are. Up until very recently if you picked up a JDM brand to test it, the club “felt” cheap. Then you’d look at the price tag and go “Why would I ever buy this?”

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      Don

      1 year ago

      Why no mention of Srixon, probably the largest and fastest growing of the Japanese brands?

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      tscdave

      1 year ago

      Those Muria clubs look so sweet!

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      Todd Tschantz

      1 year ago

      Well, again XXIO gets ignored here. Very innovative in materials and design. Fastest growing brand in the US. Higher price? yes, but not a big reach. Who would spend a c-note for more distance in their market?

      Reply

      David

      1 year ago

      Love my Honma irons.
      I didn’t buy gold plated.
      They’re not going away.

      Reply

      John

      1 year ago

      Agree…. Honma can be had cheap now on the used market. I have the 20p and love them

      Reply

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