Know Your Japanese Brands: Honma
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Know Your Japanese Brands: Honma

Know Your Japanese Brands: Honma

This year MyGolfSpy is showcasing a variety of Japanese equipment companies in an effort to familiarize readers with these brands and what each has to offer. In case you missed our coverage of Miura and Vega, take a peek.

We continue our tour with Honma Golf.

HONMA – ORIGIN STORY

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The general theme of small, cottage industry turned significant JDM player is very much a part of Honma’s DNA. In 1958, the Honma brothers opened a driving range in Tsurumi, Yokohama. Five years later they formed the Honma Golf Club Manufacturing Company. The next three decades witnessed significant growth and expansion of manufacturing facilities in Sakata as Honma extended its reach into brand apparel, carbon graphite shafts, and a more extensive lineup of golf equipment.

The story changes course in the period following the boom (but mostly bust) of the Japanese golf course market in the 1990s. The decline left Honma a financial hot mess. The company filed for bankruptcy in 2005; in 2009 it was purchased by a Chinese businessman and golfing enthusiast, Liu Jianguo. In October 2016, the company was taken public with a goal of raising a net $162 Million (US Dollars) to broaden its reach in China and North America.

In 2018, Honma will celebrate 60 years of producing what it describes as “golf clubs that combine exceptional functionality and refined sensibilities,” but more so this anniversary is a line of demarcation as Honma again tries to succeed as a publicly held and traded company.

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A quick scan of other publicly traded golf brands paints a rather bleak picture. Acushnet (Titleist) stock has struggled largely because of increased competition in the ball market, which accounts for over 50% of Titleist’s business. When Nike couldn’t leverage Tiger Woods and Rory McIllory to sell any meaningful volume of golf clubs, it pulled out of the hardgoods business. Most recently, Adidas finally sold TaylorMade, which earlier this year lost its position as the #1 metalwoods brand in golf (based on retail sales). The golf brand was effectively a 3-bottom plow on an otherwise healthy machine.

Given the lack of readily available success stories, the path to sustainable profitability is anything but a guarantee.

LANDSCAPE

There’s always risk involved in taking a company public. This is particularly true for golf equipment companies who play in a space where the global market is relatively stagnant, if not contracting slightly.

Potential stockholders need to believe they are investing in something which is likely to go up in value, and share prices increase largely when companies experience substantial growth. Honma stockholders are banking on the idea that growth will come from China and North America. On paper, there is some reason for optimism. Both markets appear to have a voracious appetite for what Honma can provide, but theoretical success neither pays the bills nor satisfies shareholders. More importantly,  whatever market share Honma can capture will have to come from existing golfers, as the U.S. market is at best stagnant and shows no obvious signs of rapid growth possibilities in the short run.

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Pressures can be different for publicly held companies because of transparent economic data – quarterly earnings, revenue, profit and share price all drive the demand for growth. Growth is what feeds investors, and investment is what fuels public companies.

As such, Honma is already taking a more aggressive approach to product distribution, but don’t confuse its availability at big box stores like PGA Superstore and Golftown with a volume selling strategy. Adam Sheldon, General Manager of Honma Golf, states, “We won’t fight low price points to gain market share…using cheap tooling and cheap technology equals cheap prices.”

Unlike other JDM companies, Honma offers a full line of clubs and a bevy of softgoods (shoes, hats, balls, bags, gloves and more) which are available in a variety of locations, including Honma exclusive storefronts. If you’re looking for a parallel, think Apple stores, where the complete line of products and services are available in a one-stop shop.

If Honma has a reputation that extends beyond borders, it’s a good bet terms like golf aristocracy, and the world’s most expensive clubs feed any perception that exists in North America. Case in point – the $3755 Honma Beres S-05 driver given to President Trump by Japan Prime Minister Shinzo Abe  earlier this year.

While it’s true that Honma makes some alarmingly expensive clubs – and no company bedazzles quite the way Honma does – this isn’t the medium by which it plans to grab the attention of the rest of the world.

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CURRENT LINE

Honma has several lines of clubs and shafts which are categorized and priced according to the number of stars. More stars mean higher costs, but also gets you tighter tolerances, cutting edge technology, and materials typically reserved for jewelry (think gold and platinum). The BeZeal and Beres lines (higher star rankings) lean toward the game-improvement crowd, and the reasoning behind this is the strong positive correlation between disposable income and handicap – when one is high, the other is as well. This isn’t universally true, but Sheldon states, “Most game improvement products are price driven, not performance driven.”

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For Honma, multiple lines allow it to treat each of nine different player types it recognizes as separate categories. For each, it produces equipment specific to that demographic.  This gives Honma the breadth to cover everyone from the Tour-level professional to those who spare no expense to ensure they have the absolute best equipment Honma can create.

Tour World is Honma’s most-affordable line, so it would be easy to fall into the trap of assuming it’s somehow lacking or stripped down – and that would be categorically untrue.  In fact, this is the line played by Honma’s Tour staff and developed with their direct input. The low-hanging fruit analogy would be a date with a one-star supermodel. It’s still a date. And it’s still a super-model.

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Honma takes great pride in it’s Japanese heritage, which makes it a bit odd that a portion of the Tour World line is forged and assembled in China. We don’t typically think of JDM companies exporting this responsibility to China, but according to Honma, this step was necessary to meet increasing demand. Honma uses the same materials in both locations and provides a staff whose primary focus is quality control. Regardless, it’s an onerous task to be both a premier Japanese equipment company and outsource a percentage of your tour line to China.

Because the Tour World Series is the most accessible line and the one consumers are most likely to purchase, that’s where we focused our attention.  If you want to get lost in detailed specs and more information than you’re used to seeing from major OEM websites, the Honma website is worth a look.

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From the 737P (precision cast pocket-cavity) to the 737Vn (W-forged cavity-blade), the latest Tour World Series is simple in its aesthetics, but broad enough to cover the majority of players.  The 737P is cast (not forged) and is the most forgiving/highest launching model while it’s three siblings (737V/Vn/Vs) operate as a series within a series.

The amount of offset (face progression) is the same across all “V” models, but the club head size, as well as location and distribution of cavity weight, varies. The 737Vn has the smallest cavity, and 737Vs has the most perimeter weighting. The 737V occupies the space between the two.

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Each of the 737V series is “W forged” from a proprietary blend of S25C carbon steel. This unique forging process creates increased grain density in the upper center portion of the face to reduce the negative effects of shots caught higher up on the clubface.

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The new forged TW-W series wedges come in six lofts (48, 50, 52, 56, 58, 60) and offer a smooth visual transition from any TW series iron. Staff player, Hideto Tanihara, was instrumental in the design, which features his preferred grind and a pronounced triangular (raised toe) shape. Additionally, higher lofted wedges leverage a larger footprint to breed confidence and more usable space on open-faced shots. Unless you need highly specialized grinds on your wedges, the TW-W series is versatile, and with the moderate bounce and precisely crafted heel/toe relief, it can do pretty much whatever you need it to.

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I can’t overstate how well this series of irons and wedges performed both at the range and on the course. The feel is pleasantly balanced. Not too firm, but not squishy either. It was solid but gave the type of feedback often desired by better ballstrikers.  The thin topline on both the 737V and 737Vn tricked me into thinking I was hitting a much less forgiving club; however, both offered a quality blend of playability and forgiveness. In fact, the two models are so close; it’s almost begging for a combo set. If iron play is your weakness, but you have a reasonable swing speed, the 737P is a good option. Even though it’s cast, it’s still plenty soft. What’s more is at around $165/club ($175 for the wedges), the pricing is exceptionally reasonable for this segment of the market.

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The 737 Tour World fairway and utility clubs are offered in two versions – standard and compact. As expected, the compact version is comparatively smaller and geared toward players favoring workability over forgiveness. The compact version, all things being equal, will launch slightly lower while the standard model launches higher and sits square to slightly closed at address. Each model is available in several lofts, but per JDM tradition, there is no adjustability.

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The TW737 drivers  (445, 450, 455, 460) are titanium body construction and incorporate varied forged titanium face technologies. The 445 is the lowest spinning of the four, and in my experience was happily difficult to turn over, which is great for those of us who fight a hook or just prefer a left to right ball flight.

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The 450 and 455 both use High-Density Cup Face technology, with the 450 being the more workable of the two options. The 455 has a higher MOI and is engineered to produce straighter shots than the 445 or 450, whereas the 460 is the most forgiving and highest launching option. The beauty of having four unique models is the ability to fit a multitude of player types.

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Prices for Tour World Series metalwoods are more in-line with Honma’s JDM peers (Drivers – $670, Fairway Woods – $360, Hybrids – $240) but aren’t necessarily much more expensive than premium lines from major US OEMs – especially if you need to factor in costs for upgraded/exotic shafts.

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Each club is paired with Honma’s proprietary Vizard series graphite shaft. Don’t mistake Vizard for a cheap made for offering. The shafts use TorayT1100 carbon fiber, which is used in other premium shafts like the Project X HZDRUS T1100. At $350/lb, the material it isn’t cheap. Suffice it to say; this isn’t your run of the mill stock shaft.

What’s different?

Honma has the heritage and lineage to tell the story of JDM quality and precise craftsmanship. It owns and controls its facilities in Sakarta, Japan and the average tenure of a Honma master craftsman is 37 years (there are about 15 of them). It has a considerable stronghold in Asia ($250 Million in sales last year), and with Hideto Tanihara’s solid play (56th in OWGR and lost to Dustin Johnson in the semi-finals of this year’s Dell WGC Match Play), it has a bit more PGA Tour exposure than its JDM counterparts.

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That said, Honma doesn’t offer any unique technology or do anything that’s appreciably different to the degree that someone would choose Honma over a competitor based on those factors. It’s also potentially disconcerting for consumers who believe they’re purchasing a Japanese forged set of irons or wedges, when the reality is, they might not be.

Certainly, the Beres and BeZeal lines in all their bedazzled and opulent glory stand apart and one can argue that the “W” forging method is a differentiator, but then again every JDM claims their forging method to be the best. It’s like cheesesteak sandwich shops in Philadelphia.

With Honma, it’s partially what they do, but more so how they’re going to do it.

To date, no other JDM company has attempted to navigate the big-box distribution model and the fact you can walk into a large retail outlet and see, feel and demo the Tour World Series puts Honma in a unique position compared to Miura, Vega and its other JDM competitors.

OUTLOOK

Honma’s progress has to be measured differently because it serves two masters:  the consumer and the investor.  As an investment, I’m bearish on Honma and golf companies in general because the world market for golf equipment isn’t growing in any appreciable manner – and growth is what invites investment. The potential upside for any one company is mitigated by the number of competing companies and the largely fixed (if not shrinking) pool of potential customers.

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That said, I’m far more bullish on Honma from a consumer standpoint. The largest hurdle faced by most JDM companies is getting its products in front of consumers and finding a medium through which to tell a story. In partnering with big box retail outlets, Honma will be more visible than its traditional competitors, and I won’t be at all shocked if sell-through on the irons and wedges is strong.

WHAT ELSE?

The words Vizard (shafts) is a mashup – not unlike Brangelina. The concept is a victorious wizard, therefore Victory + Wizard = Vizard. Personally, my first association was something along the lines of a Japanese lizard – but it’s hard to argue with wizardry.

Honma has a tour staff of 17 players, but don’t expect to see it sending out equipment with the hope of recruiting new players. At the Tour level, if you want Honma in the bag, you have to visit Sakarta and be personally fit by Honma staff.

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Part of the mystique surrounding JDM equipment is that it isn’t on every corner or in every pro shop and there are those who find the exclusive and exotic nature of JDM very attractive. By going more mainstream with the Tour World line, there’s criticism Honma is diluting the brand under a narrative of volume sales. This feeling exacerbated by the outsourcing to China, which leaves some of the Tour World Series irons and wedges void of the renowned “Made in JAPAN, Sakata” stamp. Whether this ultimately makes any difference to consumers remains to be seen – and even if it’s entirely an issue of perception, many consumers perceive Japanese forgings as higher quality.

The driver design process is different in that the first models are carved from persimmon before copper molds are made using CAD software. The rest of the process requires a more hands-on approach by Honma artisans, which is largely absent from large volume operations.

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FINAL THOUGHTS

Adam Sheldon fully admits the retail space is pretty much a mess and consumers are looking for a company worthy of trust. He believes Honma is such a company, but there’s a rub. Consumers can only trust a company when they’re consistently the first priority – and when you have shareholders, no one can always be the first priority. Regardless, it’s encouraging to see an acknowledgment of the issue, which is more than most OEM’s are willing to offer.

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The largest question facing Honma is whether or not it can maintain status as a premium Japanese brand, which refuses a mass-production model, while simultaneously competing in a space where volume sales rule the day. For good reason, these competing philosophies don’t often co-exist, but Honma is going to see if it can make it work.

By entering the big box retail space, albeit selectively, Honma is broaching new territory and should it find any measure of success, this could be the first step in rewriting the JDM playbook in North America.

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      Karl

      3 years ago

      Interesting write up. How about a review of the Honma urethane golf balls (X4, TW-X, TW-S)? Especially the TW-X and TW-S are very reasonably priced. Since the Maxflis are not available in Europe, the Honmas are a good alternative.

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      Mundinger

      7 years ago

      Take a look at the following:

      http://www.tourspecgolf.com

      You will see all the JDM equipment, and IMO, they seem to be a generation ahead of the US equipment.

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      JJ

      5 years ago

      Let’s get it straight… Original Callaways was like hitting a ball with a 2 x 4. They had 100 plus gram shafts… The Japanese clubs, “back then” were light years (golf equipment years) ahead. You ask how so… the following…

      1. quality control – ie. using a laser to check shaft straightness.

      2. Highest quality “experimentation” with graphite and graphite compounds, and other exotic materials.

      3. Golf shafts with great physics from the use of materials and build, leading to additional greater power and the important feel/feedback from flex dynamics

      4. Shafts that used multiple construction techniques at weights unheard of in US clubs. 60-80 grams vs 100 gram plus in US.

      5. Significant experimentation of metallurgy and final alloys also intended to produce “feel”, control and power.

      6. Mixing metals with ceramics, ie Hybrid Build of materials. The real first “Hybrid” clubs.

      I could go on and on about how the JDM designers and builders of golf clubs left American clubs in the dust…OK, that was 20- 30 years ago.

      Anybody with talent can muscle any club into acceptable performance with a few tries.

      The difference the JDM mindset brought was a fine-tuning through experimentation of any and all materials with the manufacturing standards of high-end Medical equipment.

      At the end of the day, Michelin was King of tires as were the Japanese of golf clubs to manufacturing and to a slightly less degree, design…

      JDM gave you a fine “knife”, to cut up a course… doesn’t mean you automatically get a better score..just a finer tool.

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      Name

      7 years ago

      2017 Honma 737 series no longer made in Japan. It is made in Taiwan.
      The company is owned by a Taiwanese-Singapore conglomerate and is no longer truly Japanese, and by moving the operation out of Japan for their forgings, is like any other US company making their clubs in China.
      DO NOT BE FOOLED. The 737 series no longer has the prestige or care that the 727 series and prior, had, with the multiple step care in every level of their production.

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      darren

      6 years ago

      Hi, i have bought a set of honma 737P from japan and they are stamped made in japan sakata on the club heads.

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      Jerry Dushane

      7 years ago

      I have seen these irons at Edwin Watts golf shop. With the stock shaft, they were on par with the other brands. Didn’t ask what other shafts were available. These were the irons.

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      Andrew Karas

      7 years ago

      Wonderful clubs. Feel is subjective, but they feel better than anything if have hit other than Epon.

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      Rekklss

      7 years ago

      Really ? Gold plated irons with gold or platinum ferrule bands. I think a comparison of Honma VS PXG is in order. Both are fugly but they look good in the trees & rough.

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      Gary Rosenthal

      7 years ago

      Chris, just wanted to express appreciation for such balanced and informed writing. And that both the mystique, as well as the quality of the Honma brand reflects a third thing: The quality of the equipment
      available to golfers today–whether balls or blades–is generally FAR greater than the skill of those that use them.

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      Augustine Fan

      7 years ago

      i have the Honma TW717 series Driver and MB irons, as well as the TW-U driving iron. the prices for the TW line us reasonable $400 and up for driver and $1200 and up for irons depending on set makeup and shaft options. Only whe you get into the honma star system (1 for junior clubmaker, 4 for master club maker) and gold plating options then you are paying for prestige. I can attest to the quality and feel – the club just feels so balanced ib my hand – I have had many custom fitted clubs but none feels like the honma. My Honma Forged MB feels more forgiving than my other forged CBs!

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      Jon

      6 years ago

      I can attest to this … I currently play the Vn 727’s and the drivers, Woods and wedges, I went through 9 sets of irons before I settled on these, NOTHING FEELS LIKE HONMA they are amazing and so easy to hit I eont be switching for a LONG time these are staying in the bag for 10 years

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      Mike

      7 years ago

      So which “big box” stores? Golf Galaxy?, Dicks?

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      Chris Nickel

      7 years ago

      As stated, PGA Superstore and Golftown are two examples. Likely, it will be several more.

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      Al Shoemaker

      7 years ago

      I’ll bet he was Fit to be tied.

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      Steven Liew

      7 years ago

      I’ve played with Honma woods many years ago when their metal woods have persimmon wood shape. They were pretty much ahead of the game in terms of their graphite shafts. Did own a set of Honma blades which were pretty forgiving despite being blades. Back in the 1980 and 1990, Asian golfers will not hesitate to pay $2,500 for a set of basic graphite irons. The top of the range graphite irons will cost $12,000. Honma got lost in the mid 2000’s during Asian Financial crisis that basically killed the brand. Their products are still very well made and I do aspire to buy a set of their irons from the 2000s era. Having said that, the world is a very different place today and Honma will have to rethink their position in the JDM and global market place.

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      Jim Munn

      7 years ago

      Honestly, it is over-rated and touted! It becomes more palpable since it was taken over and controlled by some Chinese nouveau-riches and arrivistes.

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      Terry

      7 years ago

      About twelve years ago spent a year in Seoul, South Korea. Played a lot of golf there and the Koreans were fascinated with Honma. At that time they were more like knock-offs of other clubs. Have since seen them in golf shops and they have progressively become their own clubs and pretty nice ones at that.

      Golf is expensive over there and so is the equipment. They tariff our stuff heavily and theirs is priced is priced comparatively with ours plus the tariff. They’re not going to mark them down for sales here in the states.

      I think their thought process is much like PXG – build the best you can build and don’t be restricted by how much it costs…

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      Dorian Brownlee

      7 years ago

      Rocks are an odd place to display clubs…

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      Darren Mark Linter

      7 years ago

      Dave – my next set!

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      Dave Hennessy

      7 years ago

      Why not. We can go on a golfing holiday in Japan to get them?

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      Wei

      7 years ago

      Thanks for the great information. I am interested to buy some Tour World clubs soon. I went to their website, however it all says made in Japan. Would you know which tour world iron and wedge are made in china? It would make sense as the TW line price are on par with most of the American brand these days.

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      Chris Nickel

      7 years ago

      My understanding is clubs will not have the “Made in SAKATA, Japan” stamp on them if they are made in China. The intent is to return all production to Japan, but that’s not a given.

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      Wei

      7 years ago

      Thanks Chris, I think you got it absolutely right. I went and checked, all shaft have Sakata on it. But not all club heads, then those without must be head from China. Not just iron but some wood / driver head are also without Sakata. Also Beres head seems to all have Sakata stamp, This is a great finding, thanks you so much. Need to watch out on TW series.

      Randy Kitts

      7 years ago

      I think Honma clubs are awsome looking.Have never had the chance to try them and probably won’t,however I would sure like to try them some time. I think they would be a good investment. something you would have for a long time.Not like the rest of the stuff we buy in our throw away society.

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      joro

      7 years ago

      Not those, but I do play Mizuno Hot Metals and they are great.

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      Bobby Collier

      7 years ago

      Would love to test JDM Irons against the Epic irons I have on the way! Would love to give a comparative report for the readers!!

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      Lew Bellas

      7 years ago

      Honma golf clubs are way overpriced for the average golfer.

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      Chris Nickel

      7 years ago

      The Tour World line is on par with other major domestic OEMs – particularly in the irons/wedges and the “average golfer” is absolutely the target consumer for any OEM. In some cases, Honma is actually less expensive. With metal woods, costs are marginally higher, but again, if you add an upgraded shaft, you’re pretty much there.

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      Terry L. Luzader

      7 years ago

      I have been hit by my moma
      Never hit a Honma

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      Bullwinkle J Moose

      7 years ago

      I’ve noticed the better local players in any area find clubs that fit them and stay with them much longer than the 2-3 year cycle most Manufacturers project. I’ve demoed the Japanese clubs (in store) and haven’t seen enough difference to pay the huge (again for me) toll they would require. This new Marketing effort on the part of the Japanese manufacturers probably explains the new Callaway Epic Irons which retail around $1,800.00. One thing you have to say about Chip Brewer CEO of Callaway, he doesn’t leave a niche unfilled where a competitor might get a toe hold. Oh and if I inherited enough money to spend $1,800 on a set of irons they would be Callaway’s Epic they are the best Iron I’ve ever hit, but that’s just one old moose’s opinion.

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      Dustin C Barrett

      7 years ago

      I’ve hit a 3 wood.

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      Luke Hoffman

      7 years ago

      Don’t forget about Yonex, their current golf shaft line is insane!

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      Bill Sandefur

      7 years ago

      Nope. Sounds like my Momma however It could be my Houma!

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      BAREICHA

      7 years ago

      Very good marketing based on the naive belief of a vast number of golfers that the more expensive it is, the better.
      Their margins must be huge !

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      Thomas Murphy Sr.

      7 years ago

      One of the interesting things here is we already have a couple of large Japanese club makers in the “mainstream” and Mizunos is only one that has so far cemented a “broader” name. Srixon has been on same path and it has been a slog but good progress. But it is mizunos that is most interesting where they have always been the nothing feels like a … for a long time and “players” clubs. They found the need to push into stronger game improvement role and while they still have the tag line a)they don’t feel the same and b) they have a more common message. And those are really hard to differentiate or validate: longer, straighter, easy launching, control, consistency, etc. We are in a phase of golf where the growth is in the more high end customer and building experiences and brand: pxg, callaway epic irons, titleist jp wedges, you pay for the experience and “exclusive” and because you want the mystique. Bad? No but like a nice crispy Crete donut fresh off the line it may leave you feeling empty and in need of more 15 minutes later. Hmm the golf club crack model?

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      Ted falconer

      7 years ago

      I feel my Mizuno MP 25 irons are superior in every aspect to Homa clubs.

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      tiger168

      7 years ago

      I have played Honma clubs since 1990. I still have some of its woods in great shape, it is amazing of the quality and performance back then and still now. I am glad they went back to the star ranking system, it’s the easiest for the consumer to mind. And the distinction and performance are exactly what you paid for. Kudos to the brief article, where it touched the brief history, but, this company is really offers a lot more. I look forward to an article with even more depth in the future! When I am not playing the Honma, I play other JDM products. Quality actually means something in Japan! Not marketing hype!!

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      Graham Riley

      7 years ago

      I think most of the top golf makers goodies are too expensive but even if that is the case these Honma irons look pretty good from where I’m standing and for three reasons. One, the top edges are thin (just like tour blades which I like) the second is the perimeter weighting, it looks solid with some meat on them and the third which is probably the ‘plus +’ is the width of the sole which looks a lot wider than most of the clubs on the market. For me this makes them more playable and forgiving.
      If you guys are going to send out a few set to try (and hopefully keep) sign me up……… !!! I’ll do them justice as these are pretty close to my old set of Echelon power rib irons.

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      Ranjit Singh Gill

      7 years ago

      I play them they are great clubs….

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      Thomas

      7 years ago

      Space is limited in the market. It’s now about marketing/sales buzz instead of performance/quality. Just look at Callaway, good equipment with Jailbreak whatever the hell that means? It’s about perception between ones ears. Homa’s stategy stay the course “Good Luck”.

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      Robert Dwyer

      7 years ago

      When is a golf club not a golf club ? Ford, Buick, Chevrolet, Mazda, Toyota & Mercedes, all cars some more expensive than others, but at the end of the day they are still cars, that move you from Point A to Point B. Such is the case with golf clubs, moving the ball from the tee to the green. Golf is a grossly glutted market with no new consumers. You can build a golf club, (chunk of metal on a stick) out of 24 carat gold and sell it for a million bucks , however if there is no-one there to buy it it becomes an expensive paper weight. Almost everyone makes good quality golf equipment. Anyone can put lipstick on a pig, but at the end of the day it’s still a pig.

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      Thomas Murphy

      7 years ago

      I would agree in principle which is why marketing and brand are so important. People do come up with interesting solutions to certain problems like face slots, velocity slots, adjustable hosels, and “jailbreak” but these are generally pretty quickly either disproven or copied.

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      Don Mooney

      7 years ago

      Well, Robert, I am laughing at your post, we all might as well give up. If you put lipo on a pig and it’s still a pig, then that’s the end of the world as we know it.

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      Tim Basson

      7 years ago

      Great clubs but their middle european customer service sucks.

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      Raymond CHASTEL

      7 years ago

      This review by CHRIS NICKEL on HONMA is misleading and uncomplete : it overlooks what makes THE HONMA BERES clubs unique : THE quality and performance OF THE shafts .The clubheads have no spécific advantage over compétition ,THE différence is in THE shafts ,especially if you CAN afford THE 5 Star shafts .I bought a complète set OF HONMA BERES clubs in 2008 ,Woods and irons .
      I have relinquished THE Woods for KRANK GOLF supérior Woods ( The
      New FORMULA 7 clubs are outstanding ) ,but HONMA BERES 5 Star irons are Still in my bag .With this set ,at âge 83 I outplay many youngsters ,with a 7 handicap.

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      MyGolfSpy

      7 years ago

      THIS is COMMENT of THE DAY!

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      BrAin

      4 years ago

      LOL. I agree. Still funny after ALL this time.

      Gary Lutz

      7 years ago

      Have been a big fan of their quality irons for years. I would love to try the Honma clubs and give some solid feedback.

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      MARIO A RAMIREZ

      7 years ago

      The Irons and the woods look fantastic!! Would love to try out a set.

      Reply

      Steve Forde

      7 years ago

      Quite frankly I couldn’t give a rats ass about any of the ridiculously priced golf clubs. Complete waste of ink, time or cosideration. The day I have to fork over a a grand for a set of good quality Irons is the day I quit playing. Let’s be honest it’s a stupid game anyway.

      Reply

      Joseph R Dreitler

      7 years ago

      Interesting. I have heard (from the fitter who just fit me) that the new “investors/purchasers” of Miura are going the same route. Is this true? I was also told that I got one of the last sets of Miura 501’s produced by the family. What appreciate an article about that and whether PXG is hurting these small, family owned Japanese producers. And yes, I am thrilled with my Miura irons,

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      Chris Nickel

      7 years ago

      Joseph – Time will tell regarding Miura. This year is more so one of consolidation and refining the line and then moving forward, will look to introduce new product. When that time comes, how it produces, markets and distributes product will tell us quite a bit about where it’s headed.

      Reply

      Joe Vang

      7 years ago

      It was quite an odyssey I bet

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      xjohnx

      7 years ago

      Those irons look like the old J33 combos.

      Reply

      Bill webb

      7 years ago

      These are to expensive to be sold at big box stores. They should be fit by an expert(master) fitter and not by some guy/girl working part time at a golf store. I don’t know everything by most of the time I have a broader knowledge of products and specifically shafts than the person working with me.
      Just purchased PXG’ s and they were fit by an expert, in my estimation.
      My two cents.

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      chuck harvey iv

      7 years ago

      I have not tried them ,since no shop I know of carry`s them.I am a retired club Pro and know of their quality and performance through as I said I have not tried them.

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      robin

      7 years ago

      Try buying real jdm car parts they perform so much better than there counterparts.
      They make performance parts that you don’t see on this shore unless you pay to play.

      Reply

      Tony

      7 years ago

      Got a set of Honma blades as a gift. Have them about 8 years now and love them.

      Reply

      JimmyTim

      7 years ago

      Hit these Honma irons as well as some Miuras in a shop in Miami recently . . . SWEET!!!

      Reply

      Greg Andrews

      7 years ago

      I live in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia and these are the clubs all the pro shop sells, always wondered about these clubs. Thanks for the history lesson.

      Reply

      Daniel Gurgiolo

      7 years ago

      Have you ever hit a samurai iron they are old but still fly farther than new clubs out now,I have woods& irons

      Reply

      Ryan Siebenaler

      7 years ago

      I’ll gladly try them out for a season if you want to donate them. Too pricey and like Jason said, not enough ‘Hondos’ to afford them

      Reply

      John Nolan

      7 years ago

      Considering the irons sets from Titleist, Mizzy, Cally are all approaching $1300 some JDM sets don’t look so ridiculously expensive anymore

      Reply

      Espen Finnestad

      7 years ago

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