Spec Check: 2017 Most Wanted Drivers
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Spec Check: 2017 Most Wanted Drivers

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Spec Check: 2017 Most Wanted Drivers

One inch is a precise measurement, right? You would think, but no.

In the golf equipment industry, sometimes an inch isn’t exactly an inch. For that matter, a degree isn’t exactly a degree either. 9.5° of loft, that’s fairly concrete, isn’t it? Not so fast. In past years 9.5° could have meant anything from 9° to 11°. Units of measure that the rest of the world treats as absolutes, the golf equipment world often handles with all the precision of baseball’s in the neighborhood play.

Spec sheets tell one story, but until you measure – consistently and accurately – it’s hard to know exactly what you’re swinging.

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More Tools = More Data

Late last year we announced a partnership with Golf Mechanix, the industry leader in equipment measuring tools and gauges.

With our new suite of tools which, for the purposes of this post, includes a Digital Swing Weight Scale, Lie & Loft Guage, and a USGA Standard Ruler, we can provide even more details about the clubs we test.

As we continue to expand our testing program, it becomes even more important to understand the correlation between stated specs, actual specs, and the impact they have on performance.

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THE DATA

The following table contains the measurements taken for the drivers included in our 2017 Most Wanted Driver Test.  Where it makes sense to do so, we have provided both the manufacturer’s stated specification alongside our actual measurements.

Before we get to the data, there are a few points that should be considered.

  • Every manufacturer has tolerances. While we’ve observed that clubs are being built closer to spec than in the past, manufacturers allow for ½° or more of wiggle room on loft and lie, and several grams worth of head weight.
  • Differences between stamped loft and the actual loft are very often intentional. Vanity lofting (manufacturing with more loft than suggested by the markings on the club) is intended to circumvent our ego-driven need to play less loft than many of us need.
  • In some cases, differences between spec and measured length can be attributed to how a given manufacturer measures. Some use USGA-standard 60° rulers; some don’t. Some companies measure before the grip is installed, others measure from the sole to end of the grip.  The reality is, there isn’t even universal agreement on something as basic as how one should measure the actual finished length of a 45.5″ driver.

 

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Notes:
*AirForceOne does not specify swing weights
*AirForceOne is a glued hosel design, we did not measure the head separately
*Shafts were measured to the nearest 1/8″. The 1/4″ breakdown is coincidental
*All swing weights are in the ‘D’ range

OBSERVATIONS

  • The average weight of the heads measured was 197.4 grams.
  • The average measured length of the drivers was 45.51″ while the average spec length was slightly shorter at 45.47″
  • The longest drivers measured (46″) include:
  • The shortest drivers measured (45″) include:
  • Our measurements suggest vanity lofting may be on the decline. The average stated loft is 9.91°, while the average measured loft is 9.92°
  • Swing Weight measurements showed the largest deviation from spec
    • The average stated swing weight was D3.29, while the average measured swing weight was D3.66
    • Almost all measured swing weights came in heavier than stated
      • The Mizuno JPX-900 was most off spec; 1.8 Swing Weight points heavier than spec.
    • Given the number of factors that impact swing weight; the head (and any weight pieces), tip adapter, shaft, grip, and the glue and epoxy that hold everything together, I suppose greater variance is to be expected.

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WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR YOU?

Understanding the actual static differences between clubs and how those differences influence performance is important. Across the averages of an entire test pool, the differences between clubs can appear minimal, but on an individual basis, these static factors often lead to significant performance differences. Unfortunately, despite what’s often suggested, there’s no single right answer –  no right length, right loft, and right swing weight that’s perfect for everyone. We’re all, to varying degrees, different. Your best results will come when you find the combination of variables that works for your swing profile. A lesson probably wouldn’t hurt either.

Tools Used

To produce the measurements referenced in this article, we used the following tools from Golf Mechanix.

 

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      Michael P

      7 years ago

      Very interesting read, and something you don’t usually think about but can play a factor in total yardage. I think most of us would just like to trust these manufacturers, but these errors usually occur when things are being mass produced, hence all the vehicle recalls we see these days. Thank you mygolfspy for all the great reads.

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      Stephen Pearcy

      7 years ago

      It seems that most were fairly closed to their stated number. Besides, the effective (CG location, etc) loft variance for individual players will be greater. Try before you buy and try by being fitted. In terms of lies (the untruthful kind), the claim that the new driver is 10 years longer has been often been made for each new model in the last 20 years – somehow that hasn’t worked out for me.

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      craig

      7 years ago

      You have a picture of a spec gauge. Why didn’t you check the face angle as well. Most of the adjustable heads are still made up to 2degs open. Hasn’t changed since they were making persimmon blocks. Most golfers still complain of hitting a slice. Most of the time it is not their swing, it is because the face angle is wrong.

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      Bruce

      7 years ago

      Why report o”swingweight “? This is a pre 1950’s golf marketing tool with no foundation in the science of swinging a golf club.

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      Michael

      7 years ago

      The spec that should be reported on is face angle. It is one of the top fitting considerations for ALL golfers, and outside of Tom Wishon and the most thorough fitters it is getting overlooked.

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      strange

      7 years ago

      All my drivers measure out as their stated length with the stock components. Strange. I subtract the grip cap from the measurement.

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      Leigh Bresnahan

      7 years ago

      the biggest deviation there is the Air force one at 0.7

      Is 0.7 of a degree really going to effect 95% of golfers?

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      Mike

      7 years ago

      Well, I guess I shouldn’t be surprised. I’ve been playing for 40 years. Every single year I’ve been promised 5 more yards because of a new club, ball, shoe, or even tee. At age 13 I was driving 200 yards with a plastic headed Northwestern department store driver.
      That means today, I should be getting at least 400 yards off the tee. The golf industry owes me 130 yards on my tee shots. I don’t see any of them apologizing for their marketing. Some companies like PING are modest about 1-2 mph of swing speed, or a couple more yards on irons. Others? Based on their claims, I expect to see a ball leave the tee with a blue plasma trail. A small sonic boom as the ball re-enters the atmosphere, and bounds down the fairway, coming to a smoky rest. Once I get to the ball, too warm to pick up with a bare hand, I must use a damp towel to wipe the carbon dust off the ball, and to cool it back down to a shape capable of being struck again!
      It’s only in the last couple years I have come to understand the importance of club fitting. Had I done this 30 years ago, the game I’m sure would have been far more enjoyable. I take manufacturer stats now as merely a guideline. I’ll try a head and a couple shafts for feel. I know what the minimum is in performance that I’ll accept, and if the new ‘uber’ driver doesn’t beat the driver in my bag that I built literally for $50, well it can stay on the shelf.
      A club comprised of a no name 10.5 degree head for $25, a $15 shaft, and a $1 grip gets me 270 yards off the tee when I do my part. I recently picked up a shaft pull (Fujikura Speeder Evo 565) for $50 which I am hoping can pull me another 10-15 yards down the fairway.
      In 2 days I’m going to an outdoor demo day for a major brand. We’ll see if the latest hype comes close to matching reality.

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      aerospace_ray

      7 years ago

      Good info for golfers buying off the shelf. While I prefer hand select components which are checked before shipping (i..e Wishon) I do purchase some of the common/popular brand off the shelf clubs. Like most, I desire “true to spec” clubs matching what is painted/stamped on the club. I check the specs and alter accordingly (irons/wedges). IF I buy a new wood/hybrid from retail/pro shop, its ordered and I insist on spec checks before shipping. I realize most golfers buying retail do not do what I do and we all hope integrity and good QA (quality) is in place from the companies producing these clubs. Sometimes with mass produced clubs some of them arrive with off specs. I hope one day that retail outlets and pro shops will have measurement capabilities to check the clubs before putting them on the floor….

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      Greg

      7 years ago

      Yes, OEM specs are all over the place. It’s pretty sad . IMHO, adjustable drivers today must include adapter weight to get the true head weights .Back before adjustable drivers , most head weights were in the range of 198-200. Today , I find weights with adapters to range from 204-212 grams .

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      Stephen Zinger

      7 years ago

      This test would be much different ten years ago! Really surprised at the tolerances today. Happy to see. Next up? COR?

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      Mamba

      7 years ago

      I’m always curious about how many degrees open or closed is the company’s standard spec to actual

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      Barry Schwartz

      7 years ago

      is it possible that the manufacturers made sure they sent you drivers that matched the stamped loft? I purchased a new Titleist 913 D3 after a demo at my course. It was supposed to be 8.5 degrees. Imagine my surprise when two years later a club fitter measured the actual loft as 10 degrees. His advice – buy the demo club right there, because otherwise you never know what you’ll get when you order one from the factory. Of course, it may be that the original demo club was also 10 degrees because it produces the ideal trajectory and spin.

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      Tim Dotson

      7 years ago

      What really surprised me is how much deviation there is in the length, to me that will have more of a negative effect on the average golfer than .2 degrees of loft.

      Most average golfers will hit the ball further and more accurately with a 44.5″ driver than they will a 45″ driver.

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      David W

      7 years ago

      This is exactly why my buddy who is a positive handicap wanted my G20 a few years ago and wouldn’t buy one. He said the only one he wanted was mine becaue if he bought one it wouldn’t hit the same.

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      Hardcore Looper

      7 years ago

      I was hitting balls at the Callaway center in Vegas several years ago, and I was just killing a Hyper X driver they had as a loaner. I walked in and asked if I could buy it for their full retail price. The kid behind the counter said they had a whole barrel of them with the same loft and shaft in them. I asked him if he could guarantee if any in the barrel were the *exact same specs* as the one I had in my hand.

      The kid shook his head at me and went to get his manager, who gladly grabbed one of the new ones, rang that up, took my money, then took the plastic off of the new one and threw it in the loaner barrel. I played that thing for years.

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      Lee Shaw

      7 years ago

      100% David, I had a G20, 10.5 which measured 14 sent it back to Ping UK who claimed it was within tolerance so would do nothing about it. The chumps didn’t realise it was one of their own Tour van guys who had confirmed the loft – I’ve not bought a Ping club since!

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      Upandown

      7 years ago

      Great specs. The next specs that would be of great interest to me in drivers would be; 1) How accurate is the lofts when you make a change?
      2) How much does the face angle change when you change the lofts? 3) Any other changes that I overlooked?

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      Scotty

      7 years ago

      Agreed!

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      Ell

      7 years ago

      To any golfer with a handicap higher than 5, the 0.1 degree of difference in loft will not even be noticed. Loft means nothing, it’s the kick point and the shaft flex that determines the flight of the ball. Us seniors (over 55) should be swinging senior flex graphite shafts anyway and playing from the senior tees. Damn game is hard enough, not including some of the ridiculous USGA regulations, so we should play the game for the enjoyability of it.

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      craig

      7 years ago

      How do you know whether you are playing a seniors shaft?
      I checked the new GX-7 driver with a senior shaft. Guess what, it played over 260cpm which is in the stiff category. Do you think the shafts play as advertised. That would be a good test for mygolfspy. Check the flex of OEM stock shafts and see whether they play to specs or not.

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      THOMAS CRISAN

      7 years ago

      thanx nice to know what we aresdy know
      just go into any big box and pick up the same spec drivers and you will notice some slight feel difference in the overall weight / balance

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      Albert Eng

      7 years ago

      I understand that the lofts even on tour pro drivers are off and not what’s stamped on the club. That doesn’t explain the extra 1/4 inch shaft length on a lot of these drivers.

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      Tim Young

      7 years ago

      A lot of the time the extra length is to bring the swing weight up to the standard D1 or D2.

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      Paul Kraus

      7 years ago

      My Grenade strong 3 Wood 13.5 degree came out at 15 degree.

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      TopPakRat

      7 years ago

      THIS IS NOT A SUPRISE!
      Even on Ping’s web site on every spec sheet for all Drivers, Fairway Woods, Irons, Hybrids etc. the following disclaimer is posted “These are design specifications that may vary due to manufacturing tolerances”.

      If you really want to get into design specs and claims try measuring TOURQE from one shaft manufacturer to another. If you want inconsistency you just found it. Not only are the exact same shafts off as much as 10 to 20% there is still no industry standard to measure torque from one manufacturer to another. In other words every manufacturer has their own formula for this measurement.

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      cgasucks

      7 years ago

      I remember having my 9.5 deg. TM Supertri measured by my clubmaker at factory default settings and he said the measured loft was 12 deg. I was naturally surprised by that.

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      Charles Bartholomew

      7 years ago

      Good Stuff. Thanks for the insight!

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      Max Miller

      7 years ago

      I’m gonna say having measured thousands of drivers in my lifetime , digitally and mechanical tooling , the lofts can be off more than not

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      saveva

      7 years ago

      This is probably why tour players test out a good number of drivers with the “same” specs and to find the one they like. This also bring back memories of the JP Wedge article you ran, when people are like AHHH so expensive… maybe it costs more to have tight tolerances? Would like to see that tested out, if the premium costing clubs actually have tighter tolerances.

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      GolfCodeWeekly

      7 years ago

      REMEMBER LOFT UP?

      So before this new way to sell to golfers who for years / decades had believed that lower loft equalled more distance had you measured the specs no drivers you would have found they were much MUCH further apart than they are now.

      Before LOFT UP

      Guy who reckons he smashes it buys and 8.5 degree driver, manufacturer KNOWING that the sort of person buying such a driver needs 9.75 degrees stamps drivers at 8.5 degrees despite them having 9.75 degrees loft.

      Everyone did this, your

      8 was a 9.5
      10 was a 11.5 etc

      So when LOFT UP came along

      They sold basically the same equipment and properly stamped it, all of a sudden the lofts of clubs resembled the lofts stamped on them.

      But the WOW i just changed my 8.5 to a 10 degree and it feels great effect fooled people into thinking this was the best thing since sliced bread when in reality they could have just scored out 8.5, written 10 and swung with NEW confidence like this campaign provided.

      There you go
      GOLFSPY

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      Regis

      7 years ago

      There’s a certain truth to that but as you also know (or should know) the drivers that were introduced to jumpstart the “loft up” campaign first introduced us to heads with significantly lower spin. To that extent those
      Clubs were significantly different than there predecessors . Fast forward 5 years and read your own reviews for any new driver. What’s the COG. Is it adjustable? What’s the spin rate with the weight forward,center, back. The stated loft is significantly less important than it was before adjustable heads so to that extent your comment is disingenuous

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      DC

      7 years ago

      What shaft was on the Ping G LS Tec? Most of the time it’s paired with Ping’s “Tour” shaft, which is shorter than the standard shaft.

      Reply

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