Miura MG Collection – CB-1008 & CB-2008
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Miura MG Collection – CB-1008 & CB-2008

Miura MG Collection – CB-1008 & CB-2008

Eventually, Miura’s MG collection will consist exclusively of limited edition and otherwise unique product offerings. Until that time (we’ll likely hear more in early 2018), MG can be thought of as a transitional collection consisting of three sets of irons (MB 5005, CB 1008, CB 2008) and the Hayate driver and 3-wood.

Earlier this year MGS profiled the MG iron Collection and promised a more detailed and thorough breakdown on this offering.

And so let’s do that.

CB-1008

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With the CB 1008 ($279/club), the technology is almost exactly what one would expect from Miura. The cavity-back design is forged from a single piece (two if you include the spin-welded hosel) of S25C carbon steel and features a weight bar, which positions weight low/rear to increase launch and forgiveness on thinly struck shots while centering as much mass as possible behind the sweet spot to produce the solid and signature feel of Miura irons. The wider-than-typical sole (19 mm on the CB-1008 7 iron) contributes to increased forgiveness and is a point of distinction when comparing MG cavity-back irons to non-MG models (e.g., CB57, CB-501)

Also, different from non-MG series irons, both the CB-1008 and CB-2008 feature a “W.D.D.” stamp denoting an “accurate” forging process with respect to weight, dimension, and density.

I have to think this was a selling point to Japanese consumers, but objectively speaking, it doesn’t add much. Miura has a reputation for exceptionally strict weight tolerances and exacting levels of quality control, and if anything, it brings into question whether Miura utilizes a “lesser” process for non-MG collection items which don’t share this emblem.

CB-2008

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The CB-2008 ($329/club) is, from a technical standpoint, the more complex of the two models. The 5 through 8 irons feature multi-piece construction, with a 4-mm thin face welded to the S25C forged body. The undercut cavity pulls weight away from the face and toward the perimeter, thus boosting forgiveness (and potentially distance). The one-piece forged 9-iron and PW are essentially bigger versions of the CB-1008, and given the set makeup (5-PW), it’s reasonable to think the target player for the CB-2008 might not have the requisite swing speed to effectively use long irons of similar construction.

Aesthetics

Small, compact muscle-back blades and players cavity-backs are Miura’s calling card and the MG collection both honors this foundation and intentionally departs from it. Both the CB-1008 and CB-2008 emphasize a thin topline, minimal offset, and a compact head shape. The CB-1008 is marginally thinner and smaller as compared to the CB-2008.

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The high/pointed toe is quintessential Miura, and the satin finish is distinct, without drawing too much attention. Purposely understated is a fair label. Both models are a little longer heel to toe than other Miura offerings and will likely draw comparisons to several Bridgestone/Tourstage models (J40 series came to mind immediately). The toe is noticeably more rounded, which visually accentuates the heel-toe length.

It’s the cavity which I find to be incongruent with the rest of the platform, particularly with the CB-2008.

The CB-1008 is relatively clean but would be improved by deleting (or relocating) the circular W.D.D. stamp. Again, not only does the stamp raise some question around how this process is different (and presumably better) than other forgings by Miura, but it visually clutters what’s otherwise an unblemished template.

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The CB-2008 doesn’t conjure up the typical Miura adjectives (simple, pure, elegant) but then again, it’s not targeted at the typical Miura customer. Any external cavity is inherently less appealing, but drawing further attention to it via raised chevron ridges (5-8 irons) or black lines (9-PW) is a reminder why I’m quite selective around shirts with horizontal stripes. Why draw superfluous attention to something you’d prefer wasn’t there?

Moreover, the trend with higher-end (or at least premium-priced) irons which incorporate a hollow cavity/multi-material construction is to conceal the cavity inside the clubhead and fill it with a supportive agent (See: PXG 0311, TaylorMade P790) In this regard, the CB-2008 is a step behind with respect to the cosmetics for the category.

Performance

According to Miura, the CB-1008 offers muscle-back control with the forgiveness that comes from a cavityback design. The CB-2008 is designed to be more forgiving than the CB-1008 but is deliberately positioned in the Miura lineup to avoid any overlap with the PP-9005/Genesis.

What impresses people about Miura irons isn’t necessarily the distance – the company rarely plays in that space. With Miura, it’s typically about the consistent feel, feedback, and ability to manipulate ball flight. If those are your metrics, the CB-1008 has a lot to offer.

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The single-piece forging has the archetypal Miura feel (dense, solid and pleasantly thick) and provides enough feedback to satisfy more demanding players. With more mass positioned directly in line with impact, working the ball on multiple trajectories and crafting desired shot shapes was relatively easy, although I did struggle a bit to keep the long irons down with shots played directly into the wind.

That said, the benefit of launching long irons (3-5) a bit higher outweighs the inconvenience of possibly having to play a different shot in windy conditions.

The CB-2008 is a natively a higher launching iron, but somewhat quizzically doesn’t include a 3 or 4-iron in the set. The assumption, which seems reasonable enough, is that players looking at the CB-2008 are better off filling this gap with even higher launching hybrids or SGI (Super-Game Improvement) irons.

Both irons have wide soles (19 mm in the CB-1008 7-iron and 20 mm in the CB-2008 7-iron) and even with the slight leading-edge grind, play every bit of their width. As a result, those with steeper angles of attack will likely be better served by a narrower profile like the CB57. Conversely, sweepers should find the wider sole helps create a more consistent experience at impact.

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Walking Away

Given Miura’s global reorganization over the last year, the product line remains a bit of a moving target, and the most important questions (What will Miura look like post-transition?) are yet to be answered. Given this landscape, the MG line is entirely representative of the quality and attention to detail Miura faithful associate with the brand and also serves as a bridge to whatever is coming next.

With the CB-1008 and CB-2008 specifically, it brings previously unavailable product to more consumers, and because of the design profile, expands the lineup audience to the player who doesn’t quite have the game for the CB57 or MB-001 but wants to see first-hand if the hype is justified.

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      Bryan Vick

      7 years ago

      Miura Passing Point, with the Oban CT-115 X was the clear winner during my Club Champion fitting, speed was down 3mph on average but SMASH was ☝

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      Ryan McCook

      7 years ago

      I have had multiple sets and they all feel hard and clicky. Srixon 45 series feel best to me.

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      matt

      6 years ago

      I agree. THe PP-9003 I have are very hard and clicky compared to my srixon 745. I know the srixons are soft 1020 but why aren’t the Miuras soft?

      Reply

      Henry Heng

      7 years ago

      They look beautiful. Miura has always delivered, when it comes to feel. Been through 3 different sets. Still love them. Now I play RomaRos. Got a Ray-H & a Ray-V Type R. Soft as Miura.

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      Tony Huang

      7 years ago

      Absolutely best irons, just try them

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      David Lovett

      7 years ago

      I play Honma tour world and they are sweet I wonder how much better theses can be

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      Lee Shaw

      7 years ago

      I can bottom groove, toe em, fat skank them as good as anything.

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      andy williamson

      7 years ago

      i got fitted yesterday for the cb 1008 s in england i had to work a little bit to locate a set theres only 2 sets in europe apparently . i currently play srixon z 745s their the best irons I’ve ever played I’ve always wanted a set of miuras but I’m really not sure I’ve got the swing to use them they are arriving this week ill post again with my experience

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      Chris cast

      3 years ago

      Im on the same boat as you… Whats the verdict with the miuras!?

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      Franklin Lee

      7 years ago

      Send me one and I will tell you.

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      Stephen Sommerfield

      7 years ago

      I’ve hit em and they didn’t live up to the hype to me from a feel perspective.

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      Fred Fourcade

      7 years ago

      PAs photo

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      Thomas Viallaneix

      7 years ago

      CB 1008…. Je dis ca, je dis rien… Arnaud Casassus Fred Fourcade Richard Fourcade

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      Nigel Turner

      7 years ago

      Give me a free set then I will tell

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      Jayson Springer

      7 years ago

      I have been playing the CB1008s for the last two months. All I can say is wow. Gave my daughter my JPX900 Tours and never looked back. Feel is incredible, looks are pleasing and performance is second to none. Wish I had bought a set of Miura’s years ago.

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      Chris Brownlee

      7 years ago

      Played mizzy for years. Let a guy in Wisconsin talk me into a set of 1957’s…he didn’t fit me right and I ended up back with mizzy…love them…will never leave again!

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      Chad Mardesen

      7 years ago

      At $329 per club I predict they’ll sell dozens of sets. In Japan.

      I’m sorry but their new ownership is showing. I’m sure their forging is still good enough to fuel Tiger Woods folklore BS, but these designs are straight outa 1993. Heel heavy carpet layers. And that flange? Goodbye any feel the forging created.

      Miura has been resting on reputation for years and these don’t appear to be anything but the new management crossing their fingers that the folklore still matters.

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      Richard Courtois

      7 years ago

      Mourad maybe but Mizuno yes

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      Rickard Lundvall

      7 years ago

      Anders Grenbäck Irfan Velic miura

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      Pao Kanokphol

      7 years ago

      If u like buttery feel this is your cup of tea. I love it cb1008 + TI X100

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      Eric Anthony Ang

      7 years ago

      I love/game my Miura Tournament Blades, but they do not feel better than my old Mizuno MP-33s

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      Alex Sanchez

      7 years ago

      It’s your swing…sorry, bad teacher

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      Richard Rilveria

      7 years ago

      Not better then my mizuno irons

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      Russell Franks

      7 years ago

      Never been a Miura fan. To say they feel better than PXG irons is a bold statement. Shafts play a huge role in that as well. PXG’s are by far the best feeling iron I have ever hit. Played them for almost 3 years and I would buy them again in a heartbeat. No comparison in my opinion.

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      Billy Lorren

      7 years ago

      ?

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      Nigel Turner

      7 years ago

      Pxg are over price pings irons

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      Russell Franks

      7 years ago

      That statement shows you know absolutely nothing about their R&D and their products. Uneducated!

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      Jericho Das

      7 years ago

      I’ve had everything..all the mizzy’s.. two sets of the limited 57′ Baby blades PXG 0311T’s ..ehh..had to sell those .. back to my Miura’s! .. 001mb’s ..there is no going back ..Miura!
      .. I’m a blade guy but would really love to put a few moves on those cb-1008’s for sure

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      Jericho Das

      7 years ago

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      Jericho Das

      7 years ago

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      Jericho Das

      7 years ago

      Don’t mind that nick ..battle scars ..and chicks dig scars lol

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      Brian Manger

      7 years ago

      Impressive wear mark. If my club had that perfect circle, I’d frame it and hang it on the wall.

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      Jericho Das

      7 years ago

      Brian Manger lol

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      Jericho Das

      7 years ago

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      Jericho Das

      7 years ago

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      Eric Cuppett

      7 years ago

      Can’t afford them to even think about it.

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      Bill Kraus

      7 years ago

      Mine are awesome

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      Andrew Lomeli

      7 years ago

      Adam Irvin

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      Eric George

      7 years ago

      Brent Stearns

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      Brent Stearns

      7 years ago

      Bottom pic looks similar to mine

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      Eric George

      7 years ago

      That’s what I thought mizuno knock offs

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      Kittiphan Laoprapassorn

      7 years ago

      Got a set of CB1008 since May 2016, one of the best JDM clubs for me.

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      Simon Roberts

      7 years ago

      David Lovett

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      David Lovett

      7 years ago

      $$$$$

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      Tim Dotson

      7 years ago

      Would love to give them a try

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      Drew Ng

      7 years ago

      best felling in the world sounds like best failing in the world if you read it really fast. ;)

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      Travis Eckard

      7 years ago

      They make very good irons. The best feeling irons, that would be NO.
      I think maybe it’s subjective to who’s hitting them. But I think they are nice clubs.

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      Johnny Cowboy

      7 years ago

      meh

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      Eric Daggett

      7 years ago

      Do they chop down trees?

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      Brian Manger

      7 years ago

      Never hit em, but dang, they perty!

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      Joseph Kershaw Dreitler

      7 years ago

      Love mine.

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      John Nolan

      7 years ago

      It’s the dragon’s blood they add to the forging process

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      Richard Heesakkers

      7 years ago

      Some say, i am Tiger Woods! Bull

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      Tom McClary

      7 years ago

      Agree

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      Will Jones

      7 years ago

      *Best feeling.

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      Scott Beresford

      7 years ago

      Jordan Bowen

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      Carolina Golfer 2

      7 years ago

      No way I could play them effectively or afford them, but oh to take a few swings with the CB-2008 would surely be pure heaven.

      Beautiful looking irons.

      Reply

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