MyGolfSpy Community Case Study: SuperSpeed Golf
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MyGolfSpy Community Case Study: SuperSpeed Golf

MyGolfSpy Community Case Study: SuperSpeed Golf

What would you say if I told you that you could gain a good 15 to 20 yards by the 4th of July?

I’m guessing some of you would say sign me up. Others, I’m guessing, would wonder if I was out of my mother-blogging mind.

Do you remember our article last summer on SuperSpeed Golf? It’s a unique swing speed training system designed to help you swing faster – a lot faster – almost right away. A SuperSpeed Golf set consists of three weighted shafts – one 20% lighter than your driver, one 10% lighter and one 5% heavier. Following SuperSpeed Golf’s recommended protocols (available on its website), the company says you can gain 3 to 4 MPH in swing speed after just one session, with more significant – and permanent – gains with a longer-term commitment.

Since last fall, seven MyGolfSpy Forum members have been involved in a case study on the long-term effects of using SuperSpeed Golf and the results may stun even the most hardened World Wide Web cynic.

Turbo Neurons

SuperSpeed Golf is neurological in nature – it rewires how quickly your body can respond when you pull the trigger on the golf swing. Technically, it’s known as Overspeed Training.

“A big percentage of our training has nothing to do with changing muscles, changing swing mechanics or anything,” says SuperSpeed co-owner Michael Napoleon. “Those are minor pieces compared to the fact that Overspeed Training, in its essence, just resets the normal reaction speed to a motor pattern.”

Translation: your neurons are turbo-charged into a new normal, and you can swing the club faster. A lot faster.

Each one of our testers was equipped with a SuperSpeed set and a companion swing speed radar to capture their results. Each tester saw a swing speed gain almost immediately, and after the first 6-week session increases ranged from a low of 3% to a high of 11%.

“These are your average weekend warriors,” says Napoleon. “From a physical fitness standpoint, we had a lot of variation. Some of them weren’t going to the gym and weren’t in an active fitness program.”

“The ones that were doing a regular fitness routine kept doing it. The ones that weren’t, weren’t,” adds SuperSpeed co-owner Kyle Shay. “They kept doing what they were doing before. The only variance was the weather.”

Through its research, SuperSpeed has charted out what golfers should see as they go through the program. It starts with an almost immediate jump that continues through what’s called the first Normalization period, which usually lasts about six to eight weeks as players go through the SuperSpeed protocols. After a month-and-a-half to two months, that first jump becomes more or less permanent, and progress hits the first Plateau.

During that first Plateau, swing speeds stay relatively consistent as players continue to work through the protocols. Then somewhere between weeks 15 and 26, players experience a secondary jump in swing speed.

“That second jump – there are a lot more complicated pieces as to why that happens,” says Napoleon. “Some of it’s neurological, some of it can be improvements in ground reaction force sequencing, wrist mechanics, increased stability throughout the swing.”

“It’s a wild thing. People may be in that plateau phase for two months, two-and-a-half months. Every day it’s the same thing and then one day it’s like BOOM, there’s a jump.” – Michael Napoleon, SuperSpeed Golf

Due to weather, work, health, and life in general, four of our testers took the winter off, but three continued with their protocols and, with the help of some coaching from SuperSpeed, each hit their second jump.

“We were really excited to see the second jump happen for the three testers,” says Shay. “We know it’s going to happen for these other guys; they just got stalled out. But again, these are regular Joe golfers with a range of handicaps.”

Kevin, Mike, and Jason

Of the three golfers who stayed with the program all winter, Mike Mock from Wisconsin and Kevin Loughren of Florida experienced the biggest jumps, and are both seeing results where it matters: on the golf course.

“I’m in the high 240’s now, that’s close to 30 yards longer than I used to be,” says Loughren, a 62-year-old minister from Tampa who went from 91 MPH up to 104 on the SuperSpeed radar, and from 88 to the high 90’s on his club’s TrackMan. “There was a big jump in distance early on, and then another one right around the first of the year. I’m a club-and-a-half longer, at least, with my irons now, too.”

Mock, who’s speed jumped from 104 to 115 on the SuperSpeed Radar, is just now getting back on the course after a long, cold winter.

“I went through a club-fitting over the winter and was seeing increased speeds with all my clubs,” he says. “My last seven rounds before starting SuperSpeed I hit 56% of my greens and missed 3% deep. Through my first two rounds this spring I’m hitting 58% of my greens with 16% of my shots missing deep. It’s going to take some time to get used to my new distance gains.”

Unlike Mock, Loughren played throughout the winter, but like Mock, had to make some on-course adjustments.

“There have been a few times where timing was an issue, and my sequencing seemed a bit off,” he says. “And I’ve actually moved back a set of tees because I was hitting it into the trees on the same line as I was hitting it for the last five or six years.”

Jason Bentley of Tennessee – the third tester who used SuperSpeed Golf all winter, saw more modest gains, but did experience the same two-stage jump in speed.

“I’ve seen noticeable distance gains,” says Jason. “Hit my longest drive on Arccos (261 yards) and have seen a few in the 240 to 250 range.”

While not as dramatic as the increases Kevin and Mike experienced, Jason’s swing speed jumped from 89 to 96 MPH. Based on an estimated 2.5 yards per mile-an-hour increase, that’s a potential of 17.5 more yards.

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Napoleon says it’s not uncommon for golfers to experience some wildness as they go through the normalization phases.

“If I change a variable and increase how fast you’re rotating, what you used to do to square the face is now going to leave the face open because the body is moving a lot faster,” he says.

“Generally speaking, if people are going to have an issue, it’s leaving the face open a little bit more. It doesn’t have to do with swinging from the top down or anything like that. It really just has to do with the timing of the release of the club with something that’s moving faster.” – Michael Napoleon, SuperSpeed Golf

“There are definitely ups and downs with the program, but you will get out of it what you put into it,” says Mock. “Having the MyGolfSpy Forum double as a support group definitely helped get me through the stagnant periods where I wasn’t seeing any gains.”

“Do I feel younger? I do,” laughs Loughren. “Our league just started on courses I’ve played a ton of times over the past 12 years, and I already have four career drives.”

A Third Jump?

According to SuperSpeed Golf, the process of Plateau, Jump, and Normalization will continue as long as a golfer continues the protocols.

“In theory, the pattern will continue perpetually, with the jump size getting smaller each time,” says Napoleon. The first jump is around 5%, the second is 3 to 3.5%. The third jump, which may happen in year two of the training, is going to be much smaller, maybe 1.5 to 2%.”

And depending on the timing, the increase can be permanent, even if a golfer stops the training for a while.

“We’ve had players solidly into that first plateau phase for a couple of months – they can stop and maintain their speeds,” says Napoleon. “If you stop right at the edge of the Normalization phase, a lot of times you’ll see regression, so it all depends on where they are when they stop.”

As of now, the MyGolfSpy testers are in a 72-week program, going through protocols designed by SuperSpeed Golf to continue the Jump-Normalization-Plateau process.

“I’ve just finished the 27th week, so I don’t know what comes at the end of the 72 weeks,” says Loughren. “They’ve changed their protocols since last summer, so we’re just starting Level Four, and we’re doing five swings with the current drills. I’m just really happy I’m done with the kneeling swings. I hated those.”

“Realistically I won’t be up to training three times a week during the warm weather,” admits Mock. “Summer is short in Wisconsin, and I know I’ll have other priorities. I’ll probably train one to two times a week during the summer to make sure I maintain my increases.”

“When I started the training, I was working 11-hour days with a 30-minute commute each way,” adds Bentley. “I still didn’t have any problems getting the training in. I estimate I’ve swung that heavy stick 4,000 to 5,000 times!”

Unintended Consequences

There are drawbacks to newfound swing speed and length, not the least of which is your equipment.

“It definitely changes how you play the game and how you see the golf course,” says Shay. “The only negative we hear from people is they need to get their clubs re-fit for their new game – because if you’re swinging 10 miles an hour faster, your old driver may not fit anymore.”

Case in point is Bentley, who will sport a stiff shaft in his new Callaway Epic Flash driver after years of playing a regular flex.

“My current swing speed (96.5 MPH) is right at the point where I can fit into either a regular or stiff,” he says. “My fitter recommended stiff because it tightened up my dispersion.”

“It’s like when you lose 40 pounds and have to buy new pants,” adds Napoleon. “It doesn’t feel all that bad. You feel better about yourself, and you get to buy a new wardrobe. It’s the same thing with your golf clubs.”

As mentioned earlier, it shouldn’t be a surprise to deal with a bit of wildness as you go through the protocols as the skill part of the golf swing will need time to catch up to the new found speed. All three of our testers experienced periodic wildness to varying degrees.

“Depending on where you start and the way you were sequencing and using the ground, it’ll change,” says Napoleon. “It’ll change in a positive way: we get more vertical force, and we get better peaking orders and rotational elements in the kinematic sequence. But if you’re a player who’s learned to play with deficiencies in those areas, you may have never learned how to swing more efficiently or more athletically, so the skill side has to catch up.”

“We find with high-level players it doesn’t take that long for them to figure out the skill piece to line up the face again to a little faster body rotation. That happens during the Normalization phases when things are adjusting. Once you plateau all of that tends to stabilize.” – Michael Napoleon

What Does This Mean For You?

According to SuperSpeed Golf, the first jump in swing speed happens almost immediately and takes about six weeks or so to become the new normal. And anywhere from 9 to 20 weeks later, a second jump takes hold. Our three testers who worked with SuperSpeed Golf over the winter bear that out, with each seeing a measurable jump immediately and a second jump roughly 21 weeks into the program.

So if you were to start today, you could, in theory, improve your swing speed by 10% or more by Labor Day. That could turn a 100 MPH swing into 110 MPH, and that could mean another 25 yards off the tee and maybe a club to a club-and-half with your irons.

That, my friends, is a real-world game-changer.

Yes, I know we’re all supposed to be super-cynical about everything, and we all know there’s a wee bit of voodoo in every OEMs claims about hotter-faster-longer, but data doesn’t lie. The testers in MyGolfSpy’s case study are regular guys, just like you and me. None of them are internet marvels who smack it 300 down the middle every time, and none of them are what you’d call ath-a-letes.

But every one of them is swinging the club appreciably faster now than they were last fall.

“These guys are regular people, they weren’t working on stuff in the gym and weren’t like really active and physically fit,” says Napoleon. “But our goal for this is that anyone could pick this up, regardless of where they are in terms of skill level, fitness level – it really doesn’t matter where you’re starting, you’re going to get better with this.”

When you look at the time and money invested and the return these people received, if you can go from 91 to 104, you’re a different golfer, and you’re playing a different game.

And you’re telling Father time to take a hike.

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      john

      2 years ago

      I did super speed and definitely got faster but for those of us in the mid 50s up I think they are injuries waiting to happen. Aggravated shoulders hips and neck..

      I also became less accurate while focusing on speed and think I actually had more of a flip after using it increasing the likely hood of casting.

      I have moved to https://www.swingimpact.com/pla-lp-swing-caddy-pro less swings and it really helps promote a great release after the ball .

      I find it more natural and easier to maintain high swing speed. ( Ihave no connection to the company)

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      Jim Ono

      4 years ago

      I started in Nov. 2019, and I’m in early protocol 3. I’m 84 years old and have a 7.5 index and over the years have lost driver yardage dramatically.. Previously, on a normal day my drives were on a good strike 215-220yds with a swing speed of 85 mph.. With a average strike (a bit off center) it would be 200 +. Until I was age 65 my drives were closer to 240-245. I started my Speed Stick protocol and I did not see any immediate improvement, primarily because of the cold/wet weather. I also purchased a Callaway Epic Flash Sub Zero and adjusted the weights to lower my backspin; the club already is configured to be low spin but now I can regularly get 2000 and below! . With the weather improved and firm fairways, I have now seen the improvement in driver distance with ball speed of 120 and carry distance to 200 yds and total distance to 225. On a very good strike with low knuckle ball spin, I have gotten 235+. I hope by summer time, to reach my old distance of 245 yds total distance.. My golf buddies say, they have noticed my increased distance and also that I swing harder, so they verify my own findings. The best part is, I have always been very straight and I have not lost my accuracy with the increased distance. I believe in addition to the Speed Stick Protocols, learning the concepts of Dynamic Loft, Angle of Attack and Spin Loft to reduce my backspin, has contributed to regaining my driver distance.

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      Jonathan

      4 years ago

      This is awesome man. Great Job! I just ordered mine and am super excited.

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      Adam

      4 years ago

      I bought the “coaches set” as I am a high school coach for both the boys and girls teams. Would you have suggested I buy the mens and then the ladies sets separately?

      Reply

      Howard

      5 years ago

      I would like to know the percentage of gain based on who already had a workout routine. Also, I was glad to see that timing was off a little after starting the program because I started missing my drives to the right, I’m right handed, after starting my swing speed training. However, I was using homemade golf clubs weighted the same as superspeed instead of superspeed clubs. Would using superspeed clubs be better? Why?

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      Sean O

      5 years ago

      If using the superspeed clubs at a driving range, would you recommend using them before you hit or after? and same question for a round of golf? thanks

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      SuperSpeed Golf

      5 years ago

      Warm up and then do SuperSpeed first at the range. We don’t recommend a full session right before a round however. Do on an off day or earlier on during the day if possible.
      Thanks!

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      Tom

      5 years ago

      Ok, I am convinced. I ordered a set for myself and my 7yo daughter. We are going to do this together. I have no doubt that she will keep me accountable for the workouts.

      Have any of you tried this with your kids?

      I did not buy the radar because I had already spent quite a bit on the 2 sets. I guess we will need to go find a launch monitor for our initial tests.

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      Tom

      5 years ago

      Man i love this website. You guys are really do a great job of testing and providing information in an objective way. That having been said, I have recently orderd 5 doz Snell MTB-X and now a set of the SuperSpeed training clubs. Ok, i ordered 2 sets. One for me and one for my 8yo daughter. I am looking forward to her holding me accoutnable to the training regime. Hopefully, I will start hitting it as far as she does.

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      Walter

      5 years ago

      Great comments, sounds like something to try.

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      Siow Yew Siong

      5 years ago

      Do you have a distributor in MALAYSIA?

      Reply

      SuperSpeed Golf

      5 years ago

      Yes please contact [email protected]

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      Tyler

      5 years ago

      I have a fascinating thing to add… for years baseball and softball players have done this in a very similar way. Regular bat, a pretty heavy bat, and a tee-ball bat. It’s a great and proven concept.

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      Morgan

      5 years ago

      How much physical space is needed to complete the training. I live in an apartment with enough space to take a full swing with a wedge, maybe a 9-iron. Could i do this training indoors or would I need to find time and space to be outdoors?

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      SuperSpeed Golf

      5 years ago

      Hi Morgan, you’d need to be able to swing a driver so it sounds like outdoors is best for you. Some find a room in a gym to do the training as well.

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      Jason

      5 years ago

      Sorry posting here as it looks like SuperSpeed are monitoring. Looked at purchasing on SuperSpeed website but New Zealand didn’t appear as a shipping option. Any reason?

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      SuperSpeed Golf

      5 years ago

      Hi Jason, you can contact our distributor there who can assist you in getting a set.
      [email protected]

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      Paul R

      5 years ago

      Did any of the testers do the warm up routine that’s on the website? Or just straight into the swing protocols? Thanks for replies…if any :)

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      SuperSpeed Golf

      5 years ago

      Hi Paul, we recommended each tester warmup before every session. Most of them followed our recommendations.
      We prefer the training not be done cold.

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      Adrian

      5 years ago

      I think that the most important thing about this program might the the swings taken with the non dominant side. I played golf right and left handed and I have always noticed that the more swings I took with the non dominant side the more speed I generated with the dominant side. Swinging a heavy club with the non dominant side definitely sped up this process. This is nothing new but I can’t be mad at this company for making money off of it.

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      Craig

      5 years ago

      I know we are talking about driver swing speeds when it comes to the test but has anyone compared e.g 6 iron swing speeds after using Superspeed?

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      SuperSpeed Golf

      5 years ago

      Hi Craig, you will see gains throughout the bag. It may less than driver though. It is more variable than driver.

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      Mark M

      5 years ago

      I’m 62, currently an 8.6 hcp, have never been short off the tee, but have seen a decrease in my distance over the past 5 years or so.

      Been thinking about buying them since last fall and finally started the SuperSpeed training program about 2 1/2 weeks ago. I have already seen an increase in speed/distance on my driver and irons. I don’t have any swing speed measurables yet, but can definitely see a difference in carry distances on the course – and so can the guys I’m playing with.

      On top of doing the Level 1 Protocols (with 4 swings instead of 3 since I play a lot already) every other day per the website, I’ve also been using them as a warm up before I hit balls prior to playing a round or before I tee off if I don’t have time for the range. There’s a distinct feeling of more speed available after using the SuperSpeed sticks.

      I was doing some work on simulators over the winter, where my driver swing speed was averaging about 100 mph. I will go by there soon to get some current measurements, see if there’s a difference and give me some numbers to compare with as I continue with the program.

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      Gregg Juster

      5 years ago

      As a 68 year old PGA member – I have been on SSS for 2 months now. I have picked up at least 10 yards on my drives and a few on my irons. I have been religious in my use of SSS as it gives me a good quick work out too. Before SSS my drives would carry 200 to 210 now 210 to 225 when I go after my drive. (Old and a bad back) I recommend SSS to the people I am helping with their game

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      Joey5Picks

      5 years ago

      What I’d really like to know is, did the subjects’ scores/handicaps drop? Isn’t that the bottom line? Yes, you’d expect hitting the ball further to lead to that, but does it? Or is that $200 better spent on lessons, improving the short game, etc.?

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      Max R

      5 years ago

      Brilliant question. I took a refresher lesson three weeks ago AND with a trained pair of eyes from a PGA teacher who saw a couple of issues with my takeaway. After an hour, I was carrying my AP2 6-iron 10 YDS. farther than before the minor but important lesson. Got the lesson courtesy of a Winter Groupon deal.

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      ChadMo

      5 years ago

      Anyone tried this for their kids? Our daughter is 15 and is an aspiring college player (fingers crossed). She’s athletic, tall (5-9 and maybe still growing) and thin, so she definitely could use some added distance off the tee. Her GHIN is down to a 5.9 so she’s got a shot, but I was curious if anyone has tried the women’s version/kids version and if it benefits?

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      SuperSpeed Golf

      5 years ago

      Hi Chad, we typically see even bigger gains with females than the males. We would make sure to get her fit into the right set. If she plays a ladies length driver she would be best in the ladies set. The junior set is 41 inches for those that are not yet at an adult length.

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      ChadMo

      5 years ago

      Thanks, she’s in adult length. I’ll definitely check out your website.

      davemac

      5 years ago

      I gained nothing from Superspeed!

      Here is the interesting bit, I have a ridiculously low driver swing speed of 75 mph so you would think this would be easy to see an improvement. I followed the protocols from July to October last year, I even included modified protocols suggested by Napoleon from Superspeed.
      I obtained zero increase in club head speed. I received plenty of advice on the need for the swing speed radar on the huge thread on GolfWRX. I followed the protocols as directed, I swung as hard as I could but gained nothing other than a lighter wallet.
      Why? My best guess is the movement pattern I have leads me to over use the wrists as a speed source, this is not casting in the classic sense but similar. I simply exaggerated this fault/error with Superspeed.
      I simply doesn’t work for everyone.

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      SuperSpeed Golf

      5 years ago

      Hi Dave, thanks for sharing here. Feel free to check back in with us again as we didn’t hear from you after the modifications we recommended. There may be some physical limitations that we could assist you with the are impeding your gains. We rarely see anyone not gain speed and gladly assist those as much as we can to achieve their goals.

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      davemac

      5 years ago

      I appreciate the offer. I had the winter off with regards to practice.. The season has just begun here in the UK, if I restart the protocols I will drop you an email.

      B.Boston

      5 years ago

      I believe the radar is recommended because swinging *Harder* and *Faster* are not the same. I have a SS Radar and have already notice that there is a 5mph variance between when I try to swing loose and fast vs hard.

      I’m not trying to say you’re doing anything wrong, but if you can’t measure its hard to blame the program. Before getting the SS Radar I would have bet a million bucks that my ‘hard’ swing was faster, but it simply has proven to be the opposite.

      On the other hand, if you’re ready to sell you’re sit I’ll gladly take them off your hands as I’d like to purchase soon. :)

      My name here is the same as my forum name, so shoot me a PM if you want to sell.

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      davemac

      5 years ago

      I appreciate the input and I absolutely get the logic of the swing speed radar for positive feedback. There is also the possibility that the swing speed radar would provide negative or demotivating feedback in my situation.
      My benchmark was simply driver distance before and after several months of the protocols.

      joe

      5 years ago

      I can attest this system definitely works. I’m only 9 weeks into the program so I haven’t seen anywhere near the results that the testers are claiming, but my swing speed went from 109avg to 113 avg. I topped out at 118 where you could tell everything felt perfect from takeaway, hip turn, etc…

      oddly enough ive only noticed the distance gains in my driver and woods. My irons seem to be going the same distance, give or take 3 yards honestly… but my driver, 3w, and 5w or driving iron are all on average 12 yards farther.

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      Bucky CC (Mike - Tester 1)

      5 years ago

      All of the speed gains mentioned in the article are based off of our driver swing speeds. I’ve definitely seen the biggest increase in my woods, but more moderate gains with the irons. SuperSpeed may be able to give you an official answer but I think it has to do with a more controlled/target based swing with irons. With a driver you mostly go for straight distance but with approach shots you have a very specific yardage in mind.

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      Kourt

      4 years ago

      You won’t see the same amount of increase with a wedge as you will a driver. Stricly because of the role loft plays on a club. With a driver there is such little loft the club speed is turned into a lot of ball speed and it’s launching at a proper angle for distance…as you get to a wedge the increased speed is sending the ball more vertical than horizontal. So you’ll see more height and spin and just a small amount of yardage gain with wedges and irons.

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      Kevin Gillespie

      5 years ago

      Can confirm the gains are real. I began the program on November 3rd (5 months ago) and registering 102-105 club head speed on my Foresight launch monitor. 2 months into phase 3 and I am consistently seeing 118 mph. Certainly been an adjustment to my distance control across the board but have seen my par 5 scoring get lower and lower. Been a game changer for me.

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      ChadMo

      5 years ago

      Curious as to what the big difference is in reality between the Super Speed system and the Orange Whip product(s)? I’m a big fan of the Orange Whip, and while I don’t know how much they promote that their product as a swing speed thing, as much as it is tempo/rhythm, I do think consistent work on the OW can’t hurt with swing speed. Is there a huge difference between these two?

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      Joe

      5 years ago

      HUGE difference. the orange whip is just one weight you swing over and over. SuperSpeed is the same technique Olympic sprinters use. Youre training your mind to do something faster than you thought possible (swing the golf club, sprint on a treadmill). Sprinters run downhill to get their legs used to running at speeds they’re not accustomed to, or run on a specialized treadmill at a higher MPH than they can actually run… same as with golf swing. swinging the lighter club first is getting you loose after a proper warm up. Then you swing the middle weight which is about the same weight as your driver. In one session alone you’re swinging that driver weighted club faster b/c you’re mind is used to you swinging that lighter club now., Then you finish with the heavier club to develop more strength. its more detailed but you end your session by swinging the lightest club 3 – 4 times as hard as you can to engrain in your muscle memory to retain that speed

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      ChadMo

      5 years ago

      Makes sense, thanks for the insightful reply. I’m intrigued definitely.

      Max R

      5 years ago

      Does anyone find it curious that the Superspeed Radar and Trackman numbers for example Loughren, a 62-year-old who went from 91 MPH up to 104 on the SuperSpeed radar, and from 88 to the high 90’s on his club’s TrackMan?

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      Tony Covey

      5 years ago

      I’d chalk it up to the differences in how different systems measure speed. I don’t know that anyone is claiming that the inexpensive speed measuring devices SuperSpeed provide are 100% accurate to the absolute MPH, but rather, they provide a means to reliably track individual progress over time.

      The other part of the discussion is that Trackman is also imperfect when it comes to measuring swing speed as well (it reads some clubs fast, others slow…it mostly comes down to the dimensions and shape of each individual club).

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      Brandon M

      5 years ago

      As long as you take all the measurements on the same device, the total gain should be similar – say 7mph. If that means 95 -> 102 mph on one monitor vs 90 -> 97mph on another tracker due to accuracy it still shows a gain.

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      Max R

      5 years ago

      Thank you to all for replying to my question. Fascinating that the devices mentioned do not measure clubhead speed differently. Didn’t know that. I agree that if the devices-used are consistent then that’s a reasonable tool to determine a reliable way to measure progress. I recently learned that many of these devices used are calibrated at sea-level (for example, San Diego California) which might account for local performance compared to simulators, etc.

      Dan Z

      5 years ago

      It’s not that unusual to me. On top of what Tony said about accuracy, there is a difference in how the speed is measured. Trackman shows speed at impact and the swing radar is displaying the highest measurement.

      I know from looking at speed and acceleration profiles in Flightscope, many players slow down slightly before impact. I personally picked up 2-3mph by timing my release better and another 8-10 from training with Superspeed.

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      Chris

      5 years ago

      My experience with the radar unit is that it’s way off in terms of measuring speed — but consistent, so just fine for measuring gains. My drives carry pretty consistently in the 210-220 range, but according to the radar, I barely reach 70 mph when I swing out of my shoes. But when I swing hard the numbers go up and when I swing easy they go down, so I’m happy to use the unit to track my progress.

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      Revkev

      5 years ago

      @RobW – I think our lowest handicap was a 6 and we ranged into the 20’s. We had two of us in our 60’s and one in his early 70’s. We were a pretty representative group.

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      daniel e bratlie

      5 years ago

      I was almost one month in to the system, I was seeing a 6-7 MPH increase in swing speed, I was at 109 to start, I hit 116 on the reg, with some over 118. I am now dealing with INTENSE golfers elbow though. So I have put the system aside for the time being, until I can figure out if they were the cause, or just the fact I was swinging the clubs more while in training. Overall I was happy, I just hope my elbow gets better!

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      Chad

      5 years ago

      Interesting. I’ve been on the program for about 5 weeks and have seen similar gains but I’m also having some issues with golfers elbow. I got some new irons recently and was thinking the issue was related to the shafts in those but now I’m wondering.

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      daniel e bratlie

      5 years ago

      Exactly! I was same boat, got stiffer driver shaft, but lighter iron shafts. so I wanted to be sure it was the superspeed sticks, and not the new equipment, but the pain is WAY better when just using new equip and not both.

      Bob Pegram

      5 years ago

      Sometimes golfer’s elbow – if it is on the leading arm – can be caused by fighting a hook due to too strong a grip. The fix is to turn your grip toward the target a little as far as the way it is on the club. Another way to say the same thing is to open the face slightly in relation to your grip on the club.
      This fits with having stronger golfing muscles due to the speed practice. It tends to make squaring the face easier or causes too much face closing (a hook position at impact). Adjusting the grip is necessary to accommodate the stronger golf muscles.

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      Chad

      5 years ago

      Thanks! I’ve stuck with it and changed my grip/technique after watching a few youtube videos and the golfers elbow issues have started to get much better. I’m glad it’s working out because I didn’t want to lose the gains I’ve achieved from superspeeed golf.

      Mathew

      5 years ago

      This has to be near the top of the list when it comes to golf training aids that will actually improve your game and your score. The worst case scenario is gaining 7.5 yards in 6 weeks, and for most, testers, it was closer to double that.

      a 7% shorter course is essentially moving up a tee box.

      Fast (literally) measurable results that last.

      …that being said, get yourself a shaft from an adjustable club where you can take the club head off, a bolt that fits in it, a bunch of washers and a kitchen scale and you can essentially make this for 1/5 of the price.

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      Brandon M

      5 years ago

      Mathew, you are correct on all of your points above. I would add that you should think of this more as an strength/conditioning program versus a training aid. (the sticks can be made for under $50 as you mention, even in Canadian prices!). This is high level exercise theory that rec players never get into. For the older golfers that never get into the gym, they could find (additional) similar gains getting a functional movement screen or TPI assessment and adding in some stability, strength or power training in specific areas of weakness. Overall, if this is the tool that helps people stick to a fitness routine because it comes with a detailed schedule of workouts coupled with an aid that looks like a golf club than maybe that is the secret recipe. Don’t be surprised at cases of golfer’s elbow or other maladies that arise if Superspeed is your only exercise regime because it quickly progresses out of the beginner realm and you need to have certain baseline fitness to handle the extra load on your body.

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      Andy

      5 years ago

      That’s exactly how I made my set. I probably spent $17 total for the scale, nuts, and washers.

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      Rand Feura

      5 years ago

      Interesting! I recall a Martin Hall tip a couple of years ago where he wanted you to set up to your drive normally, and then take your right foot, move it back, and plant it parallel to the target pointing directly away from the target then swing away. One day, alone on the course I gave it my first try, I drove it 275 yards down the middle. I happen to be a 220 to 230 hitter. I sprayed it the next few tries and put the idea on the shelf but that shot never left my mind. I decided to change my swing a couple of months ago and incorporated 50 to 75% of that back plant into my stance. I tolerated the wild shots, made adjustments, and this past weekend, 10 of my drives were satisfactorily straight and long. Three of them were 250 or better. My point is this: swing speed is almost everything. That huge space for the take back of the driver raised my ability to increase swing speed. Granted, I am achieving it in a different way, but anything that increases your swing speed has to help

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      golfinnut

      5 years ago

      Sorry to say I should have been the #8 tester but life & surgery got in the way. Now that I’m better, I will get my own set of SuperSpeed sticks & work through the regimine. It’s great to see the gains in swing speed by everyone.

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      Adam

      5 years ago

      I tried Superspeed golf sticks. It takes about 5 minutes and I did it three times a week. After about 6 weeks I went from Driver speed of 98-100 to around 105-107.
      I think the real key is swinging both right and left handed with the program.
      It’s also important to note, its not exactly a strength trainer. It’s meant to teach your body to swing fast

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      Rob W.

      5 years ago

      What were the subjects handicaps? Curious to see just how average the average Joe’s really were.

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      Rob

      5 years ago

      I was very proud to be a part of this program. Unfortunately I did get slightly de-railed and had to back off on the training protocols for a few weeks due to some back issues but do still do the routines and use the speed sticks to warm up before playing. My handicap is currently a 2.4.

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      GolfSpy_Rob

      5 years ago

      They ranged from Rob above at a 2 to to a 23, with a 6,9, 11 and 16 in between.

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      Jason B

      5 years ago

      I am currently a 23 handicap and have actually seen it drop from a 28 when my fellow testers and I started. The extra distance has really helped make a difference in my game.

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