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MyGolfSpy Experiences – The Tour Striker Academy

MyGolfSpy Experiences – The Tour Striker Academy

I’ve been thinking about going to golf school for years.

The idea started with the realization that golf is hard, and I don’t have any particular savant-like aptitude for it. I’m guessing many of you are in the same boat, and you’ve probably wondered (often) if immersing yourself in a two or three day golf school might be a better use of your money than two new drivers and a fresh set of blades.

Me… let’s just say I’ve waffled on the idea.

With a steady influx of new gear going into the bag, I was more or less able to convince myself that I was managing my game just fine on my own. Bubba never took a lesson, right?

Over the past few years, my index wasn’t dropping dramatically, but I was showing consistent improvement – a stroke or two year-over-year. After a strong end to the 2016 season, I went into the 2017 season fully expecting to finish the year with a single-digit index.

Let’s call that a miscalculation on my part.

2017 was a disaster. My scores and my index ballooned, and by mid-season, I wasn’t having any fun at all on the golf course. I found some small bits of solace in tweeting Arccos screenshots of my biggest debacles, but I had lost everything resembling a reliable and repeatable swing. For the first time ever, I welcomed winter.

I was basically at the lowest point in my golf life when, serendipitously, Martin Chuck reached out to ask why MyGolfSpy doesn’t have a Most Wanted category for Golf Schools. The short answer is logistics, but after some brief back and forth that started with Martin telling me that he runs the best golf school in the world – the kind of bold statement one doesn’t often hear from a straight-talking Canadian guy – and that he was more than happy to prove it to MyGolfSpy and one of our readers.

What did I have to lose? Besides, the staff had been kicking around the idea of content centered around golf experiences. The idea is for a staff member to do something you might be thinking of doing yourself and report back to let you know what it’s really like and whether or not it’s worth spending your money on.

So long story short, we put a contest together, picked a winner, and by early December, Forum member GoalieWales and I were on our way to Phoenix where we’d spend 3-days at the Tour Striker Golf Academy working with three world class golf coaches. We’d have had a great time, and leave the Raven Phoenix golf club feeling a bit like Tiger Woods.

Should you expect the same?

Listen: Tony Covey & Mike Wales discuss the Tour Striker Academy Experience

About the Tour Striker Academy

The 3-day experience at the Tour Striker Academy runs $1995 per person before lodging and airfare. Classes are generally capped at 12 students, as Martin maintains a 3:1 student-to-coach ratio to ensure every student gets plenty of individual attention. Daily breakfast and lunch are included in the cost and the table time provides a great opportunity for students to get to know one another and the coaches a bit better.

If you’re wondering about the demographics; the typical Tour Striker student tends to be older, and a good bit of Martin’s business is driven by his affiliation with Revolution Golf. While nearly everyone is looking to build a better game, it’s not unusual to see golf school leveraged as a buddies trip of sorts – an opportunity to do something fun with friends and family, perfectly suited to those with the wisdom to appreciate the experience every bit as much as the instruction.

Assisting Martin Chuck are coaches Jim Waldron and Mike Krahne. Jim is a long drive competitor who spends his summers teaching juniors at Pebble Beach. Mike has a graduate degree in Sports and Exercise Psychology. He has a holistic approach to teaching, but above all else, he considers himself a mental coach. Each of the coaches brings a slightly different approach to instruction, which provides Tour Striker Academy students with a well-rounded experience.

The first thing I would say about any golf school experience is that it’s important to set reasonable expectations. “It’s not pixie dust,” Martin Chuck told me on one of our calls ahead of my visit. Like most anything else in life, you’ll get out of a golf school what you put into it, and that starts with the understanding that there are seldom any quick fixes. Truth be told, before I left for Arizona I had settled on the idea that a successful school would leave me with a better understanding of what I needed to work on and a blueprint for success.

For the overly ambitious, it’s sometimes too easy to move the goalposts.

By the time we sat down for breakfast on the first morning – forget the blueprint – I had all but convinced myself that I was probably just a couple of minor tweaks away from shaving ten strokes off my game. I got way ahead of myself, but at the Tour Striker Academy, delusions are crushed quickly.

Tour Striker Academy: Day 1

After some introductory stuff and warm-ups, golf school started for real with an eight-station evaluation that included:

  • Pitching over a bunker to a tight pin
  • Low point control
  • Ball striking with a driver
  • Wedge distance test (Trackman Combine)
  • Gears 3D club path evaluation
  • Shot shaping
  • Weight distribution and transfer

The wedge test, which involved hitting a total of 9 shots to distances between 20 and 60 yards, was the high point for me. My projected handicap bested my actual handicap by nearly ten strokes, but that was more than mitigated by humbling futility nearly everywhere else – including the driver impact drill where I hit everywhere but the center of the face.

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About that quick fix… fuhgeddaboudit.

The rest of Day 1 is about setting the tone for the week. Through the evaluation process, Martin and his team work to identify the core issue for each student. In my case, it was a severely inside takeaway (Martin described it as like trying to start a lawnmower), a flying right elbow and a cupped wrist. The result was some less than desirable positions in the downswing and some genuine questions about how I ever managed to hit a golf ball where I wanted to.

While Martin rotated students through one-on-one sessions inside his studio, Jim and Mike gave me a series of drills to work towards keeping the elbow under control. This is where I got my first sense of how Martin’s staff functions as a single unit. While there’s plenty of time to work on whatever it is you need to be working on, the coaches (and their video recording devices) are constantly rotating through, so you’re never alone for very long. What I realized quickly is that while each coach brings to the table new drills and new solutions, there’s never any conflicting information. Everyone is on the same page working towards the same result.

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At the tail end of each day, the class heads out in groups to play golf with the coaches. On the first afternoon, GoalieWales and I played with Martin, who had us both play Smart Ball golf. That means every swing with anything longer than a putter requires a Smart Ball to be anchored between the forearms. In my case, the goal was to stay more connected, keep the elbow under control, and try and prevent the abrupt collapse of the arms instead of a full follow through. Martin says that last one is common among golfers who play a lot of indoor golf or swing in a restricted area.

For a guy with my particular issues, Smart Ball golf is a frustrating process, and I finished the day without any of the affirmation that golfers optimistically salvage from so much as a single good shot. I left the course dejected, demoralized, and in a generally sour mood.

Tour Striker Academy Day 2

For every Tour Striker Academy class, Day 2 begins with a 1-hour Yoga Session with the Golf Yogi. If you’re new to yoga, as most of us were, the experience can push you out of your comfort zone, and it certainly was a departure from my standard fitness routine (insomuch as I don’t have one). Once settled in, I think most will appreciate the change of pace, and the class definitely got everyone loose, moving, and ready for a second long day of golf. The yoga experience also helped clear my head and put me in a better mindset for the rest of the day.

The first part of the morning is devoted to swing drills. Part of the time is spent working with Martin’s training aids (Tour Educator and Smart Ball). There are also stations for hitting a driver off an elevated tee (think tee-ball) and from a downhill lie. The drills are designed to help students begin to better control the relationship between club face and path.

While this portion of the school leverages some of Martin’s inventions, students and coaches have unfettered access to a literal wagon full of training aids – some conventional, some less so. There’s no pushing of Tour Striker products. Whatever works is cool with everyone.

training-wagon

You may want to read GoalieWales’ Recap for more details about the morning session because I wasn’t long into it before I found myself exiled to the indoor studio to focus on the elbow situation. Being separated from the herd provided some insight into how Martin and his coaches work together to build an individualized program for each student. Each coach takes a slightly different approach, but they don’t step on each other’s toes while pushing students to improve.

After lunch, I was allowed to rejoin the group for a discussion on shot shaping and ball flight laws.

Throughout the golf school, Martin and his team host sitdown discussions on a range of topics. Everything from the basics (grip, posture, etc.), to ball flight laws and shaping shots is covered. The sessions are really about establishing fundamentals and making sure everyone understands why the ball does what it does.

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If you have a good grasp of that stuff, you may find yourself wanting to get on with it and just hit some balls, but it’s an understatement to say that golf school is a grind. You’re going to hit hundreds, if not thousands of shots, and by afternoon on Day 2, even if the lesson is a just a refresher, you’ll be grateful for the breaks.

After the group discussion, the class moved on to a dedicated short game clinic. While things such as grip, setup, and posture are constantly being reviewed, the short game session was every bit as much a lesson on course management. Central to the lesson is the idea of a short game hierarchy. Even if they’ve never heard it called that before, I suspect many better players are already familiar with the concept.

While you could probably extrapolate the idea to your entire game, at the root of the hierarchy is the idea that you should hit the easiest shot on the course. Putt if you can. If you can’t putt, chip. If you can’t chip, pitch. And finally, when no other options exist, your last resort is the flop shot.

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For some, that’s all but intuitive, but for me it was a new way to think about the shots I hit around the green. There’s a good mix of philosophy and technique, including chipping with a hybrid, and I’m optimistic it will all translate when I start playing golf again regularly this spring.

After some additional range time with the coaches, we headed back out for some on-course work. While overall things didn’t go much better than the day before, I wasn’t forced to play Smart Ball Golf (winning!), and I managed a couple of swings of that coach Mike described as halfway-good. Call it progress, I suppose.

Things didn’t go so well for our contest winner. GoalieWales struggled mightily with his Day 2 changes, and found himself every bit as frustrated as I was the day before. Ultimately, he chose to stay on the course and play a few extra holes by himself to try and get something to click. Nothing did. He returned to the hotel dejected, demoralized, and in a generally sour mood.

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Tour Striker Academy: Day 3

After breakfast on Day 3, the class huddles up for a quick review session. It’s an opportunity to ask questions, fill in any knowledge gaps, and reinforce the fundamentals we’ve worked on over the course of the two previous days.

Once that wraps up, the class is again split into three groups to cover putting, bunker play, and the flop shot. Both bunker play and flop shot lessons are heavily focused on technique, and for me, that was the best-case scenario.

As with many other aspects of my game, I’d recently found myself completely lost when my ball settled in a bunker. Golf is a difficult game, and when something gets away from you, it can be very difficult to get it back (without professional help anyway), so the bunker lessons provided a much-needed opportunity to burn the sand game to the ground and rebuild it from scratch.

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Buried in the sand with coach Jim, I eventually started to get a feel for hitting bunker shots, and before I knew it, I had strung several legitimately good shots together. Not only was there immediate benefit, but the more controlled and abbreviated nature of the bunker swing should serve as a building block as I continue to work on improving my full swing.

A couple of months removed from golf school, I’m reasonably certain some review will be necessary, but that won’t be a problem because nearly everything that happens at the Tour Striker Academy, from discussions to group lessons to all of your individual instruction, is recorded. Included in the golf school package, the personal video library you go home with provides a simple means to review lessons, fill in holes, and re-learn whatever it is you’re working on.

Comfort in Bad Habits

As ridiculous as it sounds given how many golfers struggle with it, I was more comfortable during the flop shot session than at any time all week. Apparently born without the common sense necessary to just chip a golf ball, I taught myself the flop shot years ago and went to it at every opportunity. While I’ve since learned that my reliance on the shot isn’t the best thing in the world for my scores, I’ve gotten pretty good at it. Martin made some adjustments to my weight distribution and ball position, but I came out of the session feeling pretty good.

GoalieWales and I finished the morning in the putting clinic with coach Mike. If there’s a weakness in the Tour Striker Academy, to my mind, it’s the putting session. The mini-clinic is devoted to speed control via a counting method that Martin and his coaches use. While I think there are some consistency benefits that will come out of it, it’s largely surface level stuff. I certainly would have appreciated having some time dedicated to technique and green reading, but there’s a case to be made that those needs are better serviced by a putting specialty school.

After lunch is your last chance to work with the coaches on whatever it is you want to work on. While I continued to make some small semblance of progress on fighting my elbow, coach Jim saddled me “Dustin Johnson” as the definitive swing thought to try and improve my left wrist condition. I don’t expect I’ll ever get to where Dustin is, but working towards it is slowly taking the cup out of it.

As part of the Day 3 activities, every student goes through a final one-on-one video review with Martin. For me it was an eye-opening experience in that, as much as I still have plenty of work to do, the evidence of legitimate progress from Day 1 to dDay 3 was irrefutable. Call it proof that the grind and some frustration was well worth it.

Like the previous days, Day 3 ends with some on-course time before heading in for one last drink with your classmates and the coaching team. As we waited for the last groups to come in, I took the opportunity to ask some of the others what they thought of their experience. The response was universally positive, glowing even, which isn’t surprising given Martin’s past reviews. Everyone I spoke with felt that they had not only improved but that they had established a long-term path to better golf. The universal opinion was that money was well spent.

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Staying Connected

The end of the 3-day school doesn’t mean the end of the Tour Striker education. With a golf school package, you get access to all of your course material, and perhaps more importantly, the ability to continue to work with Martin and his coaching team. Through the provided Edufi app, students can upload videos for the coaches to review and provide feedback. Again, ongoing coaching is included in the package. Coach Mike told me that 99% of students don’t take advantage of that opportunity, and while I find that ludicrous, I must confess that I haven’t uploaded anything since I left Phoenix. What can I say, I’m a moron.

I’ve been exceptionally busy these last couple of months, and haven’t had much time to work on my swing. What I’ve seen so far has been encouraging, and should provide me with plenty of motivation to keep working with Martin and his team once I get back to swinging regularly.

So what are the takeaways?

First, don’t do what I did. Don’t let things get so bad that you start to lose your love of the game. Whether it’s golf school or a lesson package, do something.

What separates the Tour Striker Academy from a typical lesson package is the experience that extends beyond the instructional piece. It’s a making memories kind of thing you can do with a group of friends as an alternative to the typical golf trip.

That best golf school in the world stuff… I can’t make that claim with any degree of certainty. There are one or two (hundred) others schools we’d need to look at, but I can say that Martin and his team do everything they possibly can to make sure you improve your game, have a great time, and leave with a blueprint for success. While the experience reaffirmed the reality that there are no quick fixes, I left with all of the above. I’m not lost anymore, and I can’t wait for the season to start.

After three days in Phoenix, I was feeling like Tiger Woods. That is to say, improvement is a process, and it’s on me to put in the reps and continue working with Martin and his coaches.

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For More information visit the Tour Striker Academy Website.

If you have any questions about the golf school experience, leave them below and GoalieWales and I will do our best to answer them.

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      10shot

      6 years ago

      Thank you for the great read.

      Reply

      Chip Stroz

      5 years ago

      Agreed. Thanks for a very good review. That was exactly what I was looking for.

      Reply

      Birddieputt

      6 years ago

      Tony:
      Thanks for a very well written and helpful report. The review of Martin Chuck’s school appears to be fair and objective and it’s appreciated.
      I’ve used Martin Chuck’s training aids, watched his videos and think an investment in his school would be worthwhile. In my view, he’s one of the best instructors in a crowded field.

      Reply

      Tazz2293

      6 years ago

      I have followed Martin’s videos online and have always appreciated his teaching style and knowledge of the golf swing.

      When I think of all the money I have spent on Golf Lessons over the years, some good, some not so good, after reading this article I want to go to the Tour Striker Academy. One day I will do it.

      Thanks for the great article. Now off to read what GoalieWales impressions are.

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Tazz, I look forward to meeting and working w you down the road. Thanks for the note.

      Reply

      Cruz

      6 years ago

      Tony, Thanks for the article and great read. Martin and TS team, thanks for standing up for your claims as worlds best golf school and letting the MGS community get a better picture of what your schools are like.

      I have experience with a plethora of “top 100” instruction.
      In the last 2.5 years Ive gone from a 30 HC to a 6.8 and am targeting lower this upcoming season.

      I’m very happy with the instruction Ive received over the last 2.5 years, but had this been 2.5 years ago when i was first looking to revamp my game, this article would’ve made me give TSA a serious look.

      The curriculum sounds intense (which I like) but the biggest differentatior to me is the post school instruction and care that seems to inherently come with the package. It’s great to get the blueprint, but its even better to be able to ask the architect when things get off track.

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Hey Cruz, thanks for the note. While it is a intense, it is a super-fun intense for a fellow golf lover. We play tunes in the background. Students get to pick an upbeat playlist or stream their own.

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      Russell Pankonin

      6 years ago

      I struggled to keep my index under 10. When I went to Martin’s school I was closer to a 12 . The fundamentals were there–I just needed some honing of skills and work on breaking bad habits.

      After hitting bags and bags of balls, things started to make sense. However, when I left, I wondered if I’d ever be able to hit the golf ball right again.

      I continued to hone myself on the things I learned at school, consciously working on the skills I took home. By the end of the summer, I had my index down to a 6. That was two years ago.

      So before the season got going last year, I logged into Edufi to watch all of the videos taken during the school. It was the perfect refresher.

      But I didn’t put in the time on the range to reincorporate what I had learned and it showed as my index crept back to a 9.5–my fault, not Martin’s.

      When you leave the school, you have all the tools you need to make your game better. My buddies couldn’t believe the difference in my game as the summer progressed two summers ago.

      You can bet I’ll be breaking out the videos again as I get ready for this season. What a benefit of attending Martin’s school. I’d go back in a heart beat if my schedule allowed it. Fortunately, I’ve got the video instruction to tie me over until I can get back.

      It’s well worth the time and the money.

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Russ, thanks for the kind words. Post some swings in your training space and let us have a look at ya!

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      Robert Crotty

      6 years ago

      Four years ago at the age of 52 I decided to make an investment in my golf game. I did a lot of research beforehand to find the instructor and school that I felt would provide me with the best opportunity for improvement. After careful consideration I chose Martin and the Tour Striker Academy.

      I worked with Martin Chuck at his facility in Phoenix. I would highly recommend attending his school to anyone that wants to make the investment to improve their game.

      I showed up with a bad swing that I had patched together over the years. Martin suggested and worked on making several changes to my swing over a 3 day period. At first it was frustrating to incorporate these changes. Check your golf ego at the start. You have to “buy into” the changes he suggests and do the drills. There is no quick fix.

      Long story short, working on the changes these past 4 years my handicap index has steadily decreased and now stands at 3.4. I am now ready for the next step in my golf journey. I’m traveling out to Phoenix to attend Martin’s March 22nd golf school. I am very much looking forward to meeting up with Martin and his staff and getting to work on my game.

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Hi Rob, see you soon!

      Reply

      Paul Vicary

      6 years ago

      Great article as always Tony and a great breakdown of the daily events. Anyone who thinks a 3 day school is a breeze has obviously never attended one. It’s hard work and the school is just the beginning. If you don’t continue to practice what you were taught you will fall into the same old swing thoughts and fall into the same mistakes as the ones that took you to school in the first place. Having known a number of players from the Pro ranks including the likes of George Knudson and Moe Norman they all have or had one thing in common. The continue to practice to refine their game and build in swing thoughts they will use in certain scenarios. Martin, one question do you get many folks returning for a 3 Day refresher?

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Hello Paul,

      This week, 3/12 returning veterans, last week, 5/12 returning. Rarely do we have a school without a returning student now. This is my seventh season at The Raven, the home base, and we’ve had one lady who’s visited six times. A few who have done five trips, four, three, etc. It is a lot of “fun” work for the students and my team.

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      KC

      6 years ago

      I may or may not be “that lady” and I can say my HCI is cut in half and I still end the first day demoralized and dejected and end the last day wanting to enter a pro-am. They push deeper each session and yet revisit old habits that die hard and back it up with technology and creative teaching. One big difference with this school is that they consistently “encourage” you to improvement with positive corrections. Try this, work on this. Rather than discourage with don’t do this, stop doing this etc. Think about it- would you rather have someone say “target the left side of the green” or “ don’t hit it in the water or bunker” …… splash

      Paul B

      6 years ago

      I do a six-day trip to Scottsdale every year with a seven other friends. Would it be beneficial to attend this school just before my annual trip? We go in March or April every year. This will be our 14th year.

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Paul, typically I’d say, “Dance with who brung ya.” Come to the school another time when you don’t have $20 on the line and needling buddies. You already know what’s good, bad and indifferent about your current game. Now, when you are ready to expand your golf horizons, or if you are in despair and lost, then join my team and I and dive in. Nothing to lose and everything to gain.

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      Travis Howser

      6 years ago

      Great write up here! I liked the assessment process during day 1, there are a few gems in there. It seems that Tony had a great experience at the golf school which gave him a good blue print of his game, improvement in his golf and a lasting memory! What else could you ask for? Nicely done guys!

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      Martin Roth

      6 years ago

      I fully recommend Martins golf school and his team. They gave me a lot of inputs and new drills for my game. I returned to Switzerland with lots of videos on Edufii. My golf pro watched them all and we’ve worked on my swing in parallel to what the Tour Striker Team showed me in Phoenix.
      It takes time to improve and you have to be patient and disciplined.
      My hcp dropped to 3 and i’ve won a few tournaments incl. the club matchplay championship.

      Ok, almost 2000$ is a lot of money. But if Golf is your passion and you are looking to improve, it’s worth it.

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      mackdaddy

      6 years ago

      Did you feel like you improved?

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      Mike Wales

      6 years ago

      I can honestly say that I really do feel that I’m getting better. I actually won a closest to the pin at the golf show in January. My swing feel so much more consistent and I can’t wait until it warms up to play a few rounds!

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      MGoBlue100

      6 years ago

      I have to say that those three days sound like the least fun thing I could ever do on a golf course. Pretty sure I don’t want to take more than my total golf budget for an entire year and spend it over three days being told via voice and video how badly I suck.

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      I agree, it is not for everyone. We don’t tell people they suck! Some people tell themselves they suck! We try and prop them up and show them how they can better their game. Golf is like learning a musical instrument. Nobody grabs a guitar and rips on it right away. I takes time and in many cases coaching. We provide the support and coaching. Most of my students have time and money and the golf school is welcome respite from weather, life, whatever and they get to hang out in the sun, work hard and hopefully apply new skill sets on the course.

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      Raymond CHASTEL

      6 years ago

      Golf schools are meant to drain money out of you.
      They are useless.You don’t improve your game in a three day session ,mixed up with a bunch of people of different golf skills .
      Get a a good golf instructor ,work with him one to one over a long period of time,and learn by yourself by playing on the golf course ,not on the range .As for MARTIN CHUCK ,I beg to disagree :I look at his videos on the REVOLUTION GOLF site and never learned anything from him:a lot of gossip to promote his TOUR STRIKER (Useless)and other training aids .Better look up other confirmed teachers such as PAUL WILSON ,HANK HANEY ,MIKE BENDER ,JIM Mc LEAN ,MANUEL DE LA TORRE ,and well known star instructors like DAVID LEADBETTER ,NICK FALDO etc..

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Hi Raymond, thanks for your opinion, but you haven’t been to my school. Please don’t judge my effort and care I have for each student who visits w me. Have a good day.

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      Birdieputt

      6 years ago

      Sorry Raymond, I completely disagree with you. While you’re certainly entitled to your opinion, I think that Martin Chuck has an excellent grasp of the mechanics of the golf swing and is a good teacher.
      There is something to be said for working one on one with a well respected instructor but for a few lessons with Hank Haney, Jim McLean or David Ledbetter you could spend the same amount of money and attend Martin Chuck’s school. I’d be willing to wager that your game would improve unless you have such a closed mind and strong prejudice that you aren’t even willing to try; which seems to be the case.

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      boggey55

      6 years ago

      Tony I think you gave a fair and honest review to golf school. It should be of help to those thinking about improving their game. Thanks for the information for your readers.

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      Mike Reed

      6 years ago

      I once attended a 3 hour short game school on Hilton Head Island and it improved my game more than anything. We worked on Putting (1hour), chipping, sand shots and half wedges. Most importantly, I practiced everything we worked on when I returned home. Perfect practice makes perfect.

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      Larry

      6 years ago

      Just what I need professional teaching, not a self proclaimed pro the the course.

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      Bride Boy

      6 years ago

      I would suggest an evaluation of online training resources that offer very good programs and swing evaluations for a fraction of the cost on-site courses. The fact is that making a swing change takes thousands of reps that will not be accomplished in any 3-day setting. I have good experiences with Rotary Swing and Top Speed Golf.

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Hello Bride Boy, yes, lasting changes take time and three days won’t make you the golfer you want to be. How about this? Did you consider that a lot of people simply want to get away and spend time with caring instructors for three days and get a plan to begin their process? Also, a continuity program? I was a club pro for 16 years before I decided to start a golf school. I’ve been an accomplished teacher of the game for some time (as voted by my peers) and would always be amazed when members would ask my opinion of “what school they should go to…” I thought, “Heck, I’ll teach you right here!” Well, they wanted a “get away” and to be immersed in the subject. Thus, why I do what I do. Cheers, Martin

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      Schlebrock

      6 years ago

      Hi Tony,

      Taking the experience out of the equation, do you think this 3-day golf school will be better for your development rather than twenty or so one-hour lessons?

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      Stacy Kay Brown

      6 years ago

      As an avid player and golf student, I think there are certainly good reasons to do both. The golf school experience is full immersion in all aspects of the game with attention, personal instruction, and in a setting where the lessons and playing the course are incorporated. An hourly lesson can address a specific issue I’m having or make a slight adjustment, but the school was truly a game changer. I will continue to work on my game with local instructors and use my video library and Martin’s on-going expertise and instruction going forward. He did change my grip…and like he said, “Change a grip, lose a friend”…but I’m still his friend, but I definitely gave him the silent treatment for awhile..LOL.

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      I actually get that question all the time! My answer is simply, yes. Why? First, my staff and I are “on you,” to make the change you need. Simply ask Stacy, who was kind enough to comment on this forum. She didn’t want to change her lead hand, but it was the limiting factor keeping her from a big possible upside in the game. Yeah, she can drum the other Country Club ladies out there, but this gal has a desire to be really good and I wasn’t going to patronize her. I asked her to make hard changes and did my best to explain the upside. Could she go to a coach for 20 sessions over the course of a summer? Yep, but honestly, nobody with a busy life will do that…The folks who come to me want a “Reset” and a plan to follow when they leave me. Also, we have a continuity program for those who want to keep on working AND we encourage them to stay involved. No better advertising than a fellow/lady who goes back to their group and thumps them. That makes me happy.

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      JonD

      6 years ago

      Ah … Golf School… been talking about doing that with friends for the last 10 years…

      Well, this year I finally pulled the trigger on it… sort of…

      Going down to Windsor CA (Sonoma), for our chip and sip vacation in April and arranged for a three day mini golf school at the Windsor Golf Course. Going to be 5 of us…

      Not the same thing as one that is set up the way you describe Tony, but we do what we can do…

      Should be fun, really want my wife to get something out of it and if she does it will be a resounding success.

      The proof is in the pudding… Tony… keep us posted on how your handicap is going this year so we can see if the $2k ++ was worth it.

      I am a huge proponent of coaching in all areas of your life and golf shouldn’t be anything different. Problem is all the money and time I have spent with golf instruction has sadly not resulted in any real change in my game.

      But I will keep trying…

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      Mike Wales

      6 years ago

      The great thing about the Tour Striker Academy is that you have Martin and his team to help you when you leave the school. They have helped me stay focused on what I was working on during the school. There were times that old habits tried to keep back in and if I wasn’t uploading videos, I probably would have gone back to my old swing.

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Mike, your efforts are to be commended. Being candid, your “old swing” was a young man’s swing that wouldn’t treat you well in a few years. Way too much stuff going on that required brute strength (that you have) and not enough “free” speed set up by efficient relationships with grip, club and body. You have done well and I’m proud to call you a student. The changes you made where not easy. Keep on posting in your training space and I’ll keep on mentoring. Best, MC

      Webb

      6 years ago

      Is there a sense of you should be under a certain handicap to capture the most out of this school? Would it benefit differently a 20 handicap vs 10 handicap?

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      Stacy Kay Brown

      6 years ago

      We a beginner, who had never swung a club, to a single digit. Martin and his team work one on one with what each person brings to the school. To be honest, I did not pay a lot of attention to the other students. I had plenty on my plate to work on and was rarely left alone for longer than 15 minutes without someone checking on my swing.

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      Mike Wales

      6 years ago

      I personally don’t think you need to be under a certain handicap to get the most out of this school. If you think about it, even the players on tour are still constantly working on their game. Martin and his team can break down your swing as far down as you need to go for your level. They do extremely well making an individualized plan no matter who you are.

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Webb, great questions. We get State Champions, in fact I had a Women’s US Open Champion come to my school once AND on the other side, we get complete newbies. Each end of the spectrum is fun to help. The newbie needs basic understanding while the elite player needs a mild refinement to some nagging issue. I’m still a pretty good stick and would love to go to a school for three days, listen to the opinion of experienced coaches and work on refining my skills. Cheers, MC

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      BrianM

      6 years ago

      I’ve done a school in Myrtle Beach at True Blue GC, which was great. BUT be prepared for it to mess up your game before settling back into your game, which took me 6-8 weeks. I shot a 79 the day before heading to the school, then didn’t break 90 for 6 weeks. Way too many swing thoughts on every shot. I learned a lot from the school, and after segmenting and applying one at a time for the rest of the season, dropped my handicap by 4 strokes.

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Changing patterns of behaviour is tough, no doubt. If 79 was your best round ever (or near it), then something aournd 85-89 would be a typical round. Not breaking 90 is not that bizarre after trying to make mental and physical behavior changes. I’m glad you worked things out and saw the benefits!

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      Dawgdaddy

      6 years ago

      Great read, I enjoyed all of the insights.

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      Susan Eno

      6 years ago

      Describing demographics you say “older”. How old is older? It sounds like too many hours to have the physical stamina to keep at whatever is being practiced for 3 days straight. For me I think weekly lessons would work better.

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Susan, the typical attend ranges from 50 to 85 years of age. This week, I have two guys in their late 20s one gentleman who is 40, and the rest are of the typical age range. A month and a half ago, I had an 89-year-old in the school. He was amazing. We break up the day, so you don’t actually hit that many golf balls. Don’t get me wrong, it is a lot of work, but it is fun work. By the way, I invited that fella back on his 90th birthday for free :-)

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      Gene still

      6 years ago

      Been to dozen ( maybe more) golf schools. Tour Stricker head and shoulders above them all. Just waiting for Martin to be named in the top 100 teachers by Golf Digest.

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      MrHogan

      6 years ago

      Completely agree Gene, Martin Chuck`s teaching methods and overall knowledge of the swing puts him way ahead of other teachers. The late great George Knudson actually mentored Martin.

      Unlike another hack teacher on TGC named Maaaawwwtin (thinks he is a comedian) Hall, probably top 10 worst teachers.

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Gene-O! Hard workin son of a gun! Hope you are well my friend.

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      Stacy Kay Brown

      6 years ago

      After many years of following Martin and watching his videos, on line lesson, etc, I took the plunge in January of this year. Everything you reported is right no…we also had Amy Nordeen as an instructor that greatly helped me feel connected with a female perspective and her sage advice about the mental game. Martin is personable, witty, and so very talented at simply instructing.
      I am a former junior high teacher, so I understand the importance of connecting information in such a way that a student will not only understand but also be able to apply. Martin is very skilled at this. When it might be easy to dial it in for some of the repetitive tips that he must have to give to his students…grip (my issue) and swing path, his style is fresh and encouraging and giving his all to every moment that he’s working with a student. I can appreciate the amount of mental commitment ti takes to stay enthused for the less skilled, but he is able to do so. That was, perhaps, my biggest take-away.
      Playing lessons that applied our lessons of the day were invaluable. I’m a fast player and had no real pre-shot routine. Martin enforced a mental/pre shot that helped me slow down and prepare my shot mentally which I have put into my practice.
      I agree that the putting clinic was the least helpful for me. It was difficult to stand in one place for over 50 minutes without using our putters as we listened to a variety of hypotheticals about tour putting percentages and given the wind came up, simply standing without being blown over was challenging. Mike is a talented instructor, but I’d prefer more actually putting and working on line and green-reading over a count down routine that I won’t likely put into my game.
      Other suggestions or thoughts on my experience include the following:
      Phoenix weather in the winter is usually very pleasant, but be prepared for wind and some cooler “fronts” to blow through. I packed 3 layers and was glad I did.

      I was solo at the camp, so buddy up with someone for the cart ride back and forth from where the club house is and the school. At times, I felt like the “odd” woman out as I did not have a designated cart partner.

      Pack some snacks and maybe a cooler if it’s warm. A lot of balls are hit and the water supply for us was inside the studio at the faucet. Perpas that was simply our week, but I’d have preferred cold water and a snack or two for energy during our sessions.

      Prior to heading out to the golf course for the playing lessons, clarify the groupings with the teachers. We were all a bit confused as to who was riding with whom and which teacher we were with. It may be an oversight, but it felt a bit like a game of musical chairs heading out to play with assigned carts. It worked out, but there was confusion. The Tour academy is a bit of a distance from the club house, so not wanting to “miss” the bus was a familiar feeling I had.

      Don’t hesitate to ask questions and truly know that change is very difficult. Martin and staff were very complimentary to all of us and my first round after the school, I shot a 79…easily the best I had played in a long time. I returned home to cold, rain, and overall winter. So, my videos will come in handy as our season starts.

      The Tour Academy was worth every penny. I’m saving for another stint as soon as my budget allows.

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      Stacy Kay Brown

      6 years ago

      Excuse the typos, please. I could not find an edit button and hit submit before properly reviewing my text. The teacher in me is cringing!

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      Vince Schiavo

      6 years ago

      Stacy, thanks for taking the time to share your experience. I found it very helpful and a good read.

      Vince

      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Stacy, thanks for the comments. While there are a few logistics out of my control, I could certainly be a little more on top of things. I will share your comments with the group. Thanks

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      Stacy Kay Brown

      6 years ago

      No worries, Martin. You and your staff are top-notch, and I so appreciate the attention to the learning process. Hoping one day to be able to return for another session.

      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      And Thanks for the kind words. You are a hard worker and awesome golfer. Changing your grip, is really hard! But will leave you with more opportunities to be the bad ass golfer that you are.

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      Anonymous

      6 years ago

      I heard they party pretty hard at golf school

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      Anonymous

      6 years ago

      I attended in January, and if you call a glass of wine after the round and then to bed because Martin and his team work us for 8 hours, that’s not much of a party. The hotel hot tub was great for our sore muscles. It’s an excellent golf school and worth every penny…(We also had a glass of beer after our final golf outing on the last day…parteeeee!)

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      Anonymous

      6 years ago

      The Raven is a solid course too.

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      jim rohr

      6 years ago

      Tony- great summary of Martin’s school. I attended in early Feb. 2017. Had a great experience and I would recommend it to anyone that wants to improve. Martin and his staff were exceptional!

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      Martin Chuck

      6 years ago

      Jim, thanks for the kind words! Hope all is well and post some swings so we can keep an eye on you. MC

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      Ed

      6 years ago

      Thanks for the very informative article!

      Reply

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