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      john patterson

      4 years ago

      But in your opinion that much better than my Ping G 400?

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      joro

      4 years ago

      Testing in the past has shown that grooves on a Wedge do not do it all. The angle of the wedges show that even smooth faces spin the Ball to where is stops fast and even if the surface of the Green is right can spin back. The Green has a lot to do with it also, whether it is hard or sold to take the spin. How the player hits the Ball, and other factors. Soooo the Groove thing does a lot to sell Wedges and it works, another form of marketing,.

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      Dan

      3 years ago

      Grooves on a wedge are primarily there to move moisture and debris away from the face, so the Face can do it’s part and impact the spin. A grooveless wedge with a perfectly dry ball and a strike that doesn’t get any dirt or grass between the ball and the face will spin fine. The minute you add anything to obstruct the strike and the spin nosedives. In that way the grooves act like the tread on a tire

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      Jay Vincent

      4 years ago

      Ah, the scoring clubs. A perfect name for these remarkable tools. I fall in love with my wedges, then sadly watch them degrade before my eyes, one shot at a time.

      I go through wedges relatively quickly, a set a season at least, but I also practice about an hour or two a day. I generally keep a set of wedges specifically for practice and those clubs get their grooves sharpened regularly. The grooves get dull quickly from all the grit they tend to pickup. Those practice clubs are my former regular playing clubs, from the previous season. That way I only replace wedges once a season.

      I found that good wedge play is the difference between being a duffer, an ok player, and a stick. I like being the latter. When I practice my wedges consistently and consciously, I watch my scores drop considerably. And I play wedges with sharp grooves for greater consistency and reliable shot making.

      And above all, I clean my grooves after every shot.

      Nothing makes me cringe more than seeing nasty looking, fouled up clubs, ugh. The grooves are there for a big reason, the reason why the USGA went to war on changing the grooves with Ping and then all the other manufacturers not long ago. The same reason why there is such a discernible difference between a cheap wedge and an outstanding wedge. Grooves make the ball easier to control. Apparently, the USGA thought the square grooves wedges were making the game too easy! Really?!? Argh. But, as usual, we clever golfers always find a way to work around the latest restrictions, and so the OEMs have come up with other fun ways to make the ball spin. Yay! Spin GOOD.

      Now, go wash your hands and put this mask on, for today we golf my brothers and sisters!
      And once again, the birds did sing, balls did drop from high lofted wedge shots onto firmly rolled and tightly cut greens, muffled curses did flow freely from the once silent fairways and there was much rejoicing and celebrating in the humble little Kingdom of Golf.

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      Norm Jones

      4 years ago

      I’m a recreational golfer so I really don’t care if the wedges are nonconforming after sharpening. This is not my profession. Have fun guys.

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      steven

      4 years ago

      I replaced my wedges last year. I changed manufacturers and I was getting a different feeling in the shots. I don’t know if it was because the older ones were worn out. I am getting a lot of practice in my backyard with plastic balls during our situation.

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      MCB

      4 years ago

      That may be so, but my Jaws X Series wedges from 2009(?) still spin better than all the new wedges i’ve bought, Rotex 2.0, Mack Daddy, Cobra King and Glide 3.0…, and i’ve used them on and off for 8 years! And they still can shred a ball somehow…..
      Also, I noticed my Mack Daddy wore down past the chrome in no time at all.

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      Thomas

      4 years ago

      It might be because the grooves in those wedges are now illegal. Maybe…

      GolfHo

      4 years ago

      So the 2019 Callaway Epic and 2019 Cobra Speedzone are better better than anything in 2020 because the 2020 winning Ping G410LST was included in the 2019 test and finished behind these two drivers? or will the changes to test methodology justify 2020 results?

      MGS should always include previous year winner n current year driver test.

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      Toomanyoverpar

      4 years ago

      In Australia we have a “Not fit for purpose” law. Maths exercise. Assume 6 wedge shots per round as an average at 1 second per actual strike of the ball. So 6 seconds x 75 rounds = 450 seconds or 7 and a half minutes. of use. If something needs fixing after 7.5 minutes it’s not worth the money you paid for it. Take it back it’s “Not fit for purposes”.

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      Phil

      4 years ago

      Seems to me that one very important variable that should not be overlooked is practice time. Obviously if you’re someone who likes to practice (which I am) then that 75 round number is going to shrink pretty fast. I feel like I need to swap out my 60 degree every 6 months or so.

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      THOMAS

      4 years ago

      don’t like new format. I don’t know what it means to use arrows? Since all I could find was the wedge subject

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      Steven de Bruyn

      4 years ago

      The arrows are in both ends of the picture in the story.

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      IK

      4 years ago

      Look at the pic of the Wedges.

      The Arrows are either side of the pic.

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      Lazza

      4 years ago

      The arrow is actually the ‘ > ‘ in the picture at the top..

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      Tony N

      4 years ago

      Use the at the LH & RH side of the photo

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      Alex Sharpe

      4 years ago

      I question 75 rounds. That’s not a lot of play on a wedge. What about practice time with wedges? Tour pros must change wedges every week with practice and play. If they only last 75 rounds. They would have that covered in a few days of practice. When I did walking scoring and got to see their clubs up close. Every iron in their bag had a spot the size of a dime right on the sweet spot from hitting shots. It takes a lot to get that on irons. I have been using a groove sharpener for years. If you use the sharpener correctly you won’t knock the grooves out of compliance. You are just cleaning up the groove not regrooving it.

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      J.J.

      4 years ago

      As a senior I play 100 to 150 rounds a year, my courses have 63 sand traps or less on 6800 yard courses and do not replace my wedge every few years because I got fit at Club Champion and it the ball straight. Vokey or Callaway or taylormade, you have to play enough golf to keep the ball in the fairway and practice when you have time, putting or fairway. Or use any other company that will fit you, PLAY MORE GOLF!

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      Randy Mahony

      4 years ago

      My wedges are 3 years old about 150 rounds and I don’t see much of a difference if it’s a good strike.. I keep them clean and they spin just fine.

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      Larry Proffer

      4 years ago

      Unless your playing in sanctioned PGA events I don’t see any issue with using the groove sharpener.. I would have to change my wedges every two or three months.. I have four wedges. That’s not happening.

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      Barry Schwartz

      4 years ago

      I would be curious as to how much performance is lost after 75 rounds. Titleist does have a vested interest in selling wedges, after all.

      The right answer is when the ball stops performing the way you need it to perform, you probably need new wedges (or groove sharpening).

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      jeff starling

      4 years ago

      I had a pair of wedges for 5 years and they were still working great. I do sharpen them every year. I decided to buy new ones last year and it took awhile before I had them dialed in from my last wedges. But I do not notice that much of a difference.

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      Vern

      4 years ago

      I groove sharpen all my irons including wedges every 6 months. I switch out my wedges every 2 years or so.

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      Greg p

      4 years ago

      Is it legal to sharpen the grooves?

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      Imafitter

      4 years ago

      How many wedge shots, with a particular wedge, does a round equate to? Are you also including PW & AW with the SW & LW? For example, in one round, I may hit my AW 6x, PW 2x, SW 4x, LW 1x. Plus, in this test, is a chip a shot or must it be a full shot? Lots of questions requiring lots of answers.

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      Bob

      4 years ago

      Excellent questions and not something most would track. I sharpen mine and not being on tour who cares

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      Jim

      4 years ago

      How do you count driving range and chipping course shots in that?

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      Michael

      4 years ago

      I use old wedges to practice, my SM-5s, and then only game the SM-7s. There is no point in beating range balls with good wedges.

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      Glen

      4 years ago

      The use of a groove sharpener will make your club non-conforming. I checked with the USGA several years ago.

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      SouthboundEventually

      4 years ago

      Not real surprising that Titleist wants us to buy new wedges every year. ?

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      Steve S

      4 years ago

      I sharpen the grooves on my wedges 3-4 times a year. I also think that I don’t use my 3 wedges that often on full swings that I’d wear them out after 75 rounds. Many of my wedge shots are half swings or less.

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      Larry

      4 years ago

      I get new wedges every season!! SCORING CLUBS!!

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      Michael Smith

      4 years ago

      That would break me I get that I’m in about 2 to 3 months. Wedges are 160 each now crazy

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      Jason Fleming

      4 years ago

      I agree with the groove sharpening, I can’t justify new wedges every season with the wife. Plus that money goes to get out golfing more.!

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      Thebrad

      4 years ago

      Which is why companies make groove sharpeners. Much cheaper than new wedges.

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      Bob Kirkwood

      4 years ago

      Do groove sharpeners make the grooves illegal? They are being altered by the sharpener.

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      Robert D. Herpst

      4 years ago

      what result would you expect from a company that sells wedges—buy new stuff

      Reply

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