Wilson Golf 2.0 – Rebuilding the Wilson Staff Brand
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Wilson Golf 2.0 – Rebuilding the Wilson Staff Brand

Wilson Golf 2.0 – Rebuilding the Wilson Staff Brand

In Part I of our Wilson Series, MyGolfSpy Forum Director, John Barba, reviewed the decline and fall of the Wilson Golf brand. Today we examine Wilson’s “reboot” since 2007, Wilson’s efforts at getting its own house in order and its R&D efforts. Finally, in Part III, we’ll look at how Wilson uses its Tour Staff, and just who – and what – this iconic brand is.

Written By: John Barba

There’s a story of a guy who fell off the roof of a 20-story building. People near the windows of each floor heard him say as he was falling, “so far, so good.”

If you read business profiles on Wilson Golf dating back to the 90’s and early 2000’s, you’ll hear the same thing from Wilson management as the Golf division was falling into irrelevance…

So far, so good.

By 2006 those rosy “Wilson-is-back” scenarios finally ended, drowning in red ink: $15 million in losses against sales of $153 million. And don’t forget that irons market share: 0.6%.

Also by ’06 an entire golfing generation had come of age knowing TaylorMade, Callaway, Ping and Titleist as serious players’ equipment. Wilson?  A “game-improvement/department store” brand people gamed in the old days.

100-year-old brand or not, Wilson was officially on life support.

GM Tim Clarke launched the daunting task of rescuing Wilson Golf in ’06 by shifting focus to “pro” irons and low-compression golf balls. Products such as the Elite 50 ball, the FG59 blades and the Ci and Di series of irons helped re-establish a pulse, but it may very well have been Padraig Harrington’s 3 majors in 2007-08 that pushed the button on Wilson’s reboot into Wilson 2.0.

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“All victories are cherished, but Padraig’s 3 majors in 18 months really fueled our business and elevated the brand from a consumer, media, and global golf awareness perspective,” says Clarke. At that time, Clarke’s biggest concern was whether Wilson Golf would, in fact, survive. They needed the backing of Wilson’s parent company, Amer Sports of Finland.

“From Amer’s view it proved we were making world-class products. Padraig had 12 Wilson clubs in the bag for all 3 major victories, including driver. That was extremely important for golf at that moment in time.”

Wilson 2.0: Small is Beautiful

And the next step in Wilson’s reboot wasn’t to grow. It was to actually get smaller.

“You’ve got to right-size your business model at some point,” Clarke says. “For us to deliver profits year over year we really had to get our size right to be on a scale we could afford.”

Part of that right-sizing meant punting on the Asian market – Clarke says that’s a battle Wilson can’t fight right now – and assembling a lean business unit.

“It starts with building the right team. It’s hard in a big company like Wilson to get a team that’s entrepreneurial. With Golf, I’m the president and I’m here at a photo shoot. I sign the players. It’s run like a small business and there aren’t many layers.”

And you have to go with your gut, too.

Harrington was re-signed to a long-term deal in 2008 and former US Amateur champ Ricky Barnes was signed in 2009. Wilson marketing also went all-in on the Golf Channel.

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“In the beginning we were trying to validate our position in Pro golf, so Golf Channel was one spend and our Tour players were the other,” said Clarke. “If I think about it, those were probably way ahead of what we should have done. Hindsight is 20-20 and there’s no magic formula in golf…[these] were my gut calls.

“I couldn’t validate why I did it. I’m just saying as a consumer, if I was going to get back to playing Wilson, those would be the two things I’d want to see.

Clarke says Wilson’s premium iron market share is now approaching 3% – barely a blip on the radar perhaps, but a slow, steady improvement from the 0.6% share of 2006. And in the current golf economy, Clarke says slow and steady isn’t such a bad place to be.

I don’t expect consumers to change overnight. They never do. This has always been a building block process.  I don’t think there’s a quick fix in golf. When you have a declining market, it’s a market share game. Look at Adams and TaylorMade – they just shut down Plano in October. When they bought Adams they said they were going to run it separately.  You have Cleveland/Srixon, with Cleveland going to a wedge/short game kinda brand, so slow and steady is actually pretty good in this environment.” – Tim Clarke, General Manager – Wilson Golf

“You don’t get the hockey stick growth curve, but you are growing steadily,” Clarke adds. “At the end of the day we’re a publicly traded company. I have a responsibility to my bosses and our shareholders to be profitable. If you want to grow quickly in this business, the only way to do it is to be unprofitable in the division, spend silly-money, cross your fingers and hope you sign the right guys and spend on the right marketing tools.”

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But that “boxed-set/department store” market perception still lingers. Both Clarke and Michael Vrska, Wilson’s Director of R&D, say there’s a difference between a “changing” market perception and a “changed” market perception.

“When I say the perception’s changing, it’s not because I think that, it’s because I’m hearing that,” says Vrska. “When I tell people who I work for, they’ll say ‘oh yeah, that boxed-set brand,’ so I realize it’s not 100%…but I will argue we’re making real progress.”

Vrska adds that progress is quantifiable.

“Market share is first and foremost. Sales, profitability – those are measurable things,” he says. “Did we make money or did we not make money? Our market share was this last year, what is it now? Those things are clean, crisp and repeatable.

“But there are also anecdotal things, like when you go to a course and people say, ‘Man, are those the new Wilson irons? I didn’t think those were out yet.” I don’t go in to who I am, I just tell them I got a set of prototypes. Then they say ‘I’ve been looking forward to those.’ That’s a great thing to hear.”

Different Continents – Different Perceptions

Clarke says Wilson’s brand perception is very different in Europe, where Wilson faces the exact same competition.

“We’re the #4 iron brand in the UK, which is the 3rd largest golf market in the world…we’re a ‘pro’ brand. There is no mass merchandising, no Wal-Marts. We’re viewed as an elite brand there.”

“In the UK…the product is the same,” adds Vrksa. “It’s not like we design a different product and sell it in the UK – it’s the exact same product. We’re competing against the exact same TaylorMade irons, the exact same Mizuno irons, the exact same Callaway irons.

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“It’s not a performance issue, it’s not a look, sound and feel issue. If we can be #4 there with the same exact competitors and the same exact everything, why can’t we be #4 here? It’s just changing that perception, and it’s going to take a little bit of time”

“There were some bad decisions made (in the past) by people who aren’t around anymore,” Vrska continues. “Fair or unfair, we’re still judged by those decisions…we don’t shy away from it, we don’t say it didn’t happen. It did happen. We can’t change it. All we can do is figure where we’re at right now, what are we doing tomorrow, what are we doing next month and next year.

“I think people can look at the last 3-4 years and say wow, they are doing things differently, they are doing some things better.” – Michael Vrksa, R&D Director – Wilson Golf

“We were at a 0.6% iron share (in the US) when I took over,” adds Clarke. “And we’re now pushing 3%. Is that a mountain? No, but I can tell you it’s a lot harder to go from non-existent to 3% than it will be going from 3 to 5.”

Goodbye To Wilson Branded Box-Sets?

Clarke adds that Wilson Golf is getting out of the entry-level equipment market.

“We’ve really exited that price segment. There’s no doubt that if you get too low (pricewise), it’s hard to get your price up. We’ve worked very diligently to be profitable this year while de-emphasizing and exiting a lot of low-margin, high dollar volume categories.”

Wilson is reportedly planning to remove the Wilson name from the boxed-set Ultra’s you see in department stores, but Clarke says the overall Wilson brand will always have a retail presence.

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“Look, we are Wilson Sporting Goods. We’re always going to be a sports equipment company in golf,” says Clarke. “We’re not going to be Titleist or Ping.  We’re the official game ball of the NFL, and you’re going to see Wilson NFL footballs in Wal-Mart. That’s just the nature of what we do. You’re going to see the A2000 ball glove on TV on Major League Baseball games, and you’re going see Wilson ball gloves in mass market channels.”

Is The Wilson Brand Too Far Gone?

Is Wilson’s brand too far gone to ever be a “player” again?

“If I were worried about that I wouldn’t be here,” says Vrksa. “It’s certainly not 100% back, and it may never be 100%. But there are people who hate other brands, and they advertise they’re the biggest on tour.”

“If you look at our growth,” adds Clarke, “the perception is changing. The guys that think you’re doing well usually don’t say much. They don’t call you, but they love what you’re doing and they see you moving up the mountain. They’re the ones that are buying your stuff and joining your staff.”

“But they’re not the bloggers, they’re not the active guys on the web, and unfortunately that’s kind of the world we live in. The people that speak out are usually coming from a fairly negative position. We always monitor the reports and what’s happening, and we also do brand surveys with consumers and we know the brand is improving.” – Tim Clarke

“Does it break out one day?,” asks Clarke. “Yeah, I think it eventually does.”

Which Brings Us To The Subject of R&D…

Amer Sports, Wilson’s parent company, is a nearly $3 billion holding company from Finland that’s publicly traded on the Helsinki Stock Exchange. Amer owns such sports powerhouses as Salomon and Atomic ski equipment, Precor fitness equipment as well as hiking, mountaineering and biking equipment manufacturers. Wilson makes up Amer’s “Ball Sports” division.

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A review of Amer’s 2013 Annual Report shows $95 million spent on R&D, with 67% dedicated to Winter Sports and 12% dedicated to Ball Sports. That’s approximately $11.4 million for all of Wilson: tennis, racquetball, Squash, baseball, football, basketball, volleyball, soccer, badminton, something called “pickleball” and, of course, golf.

“Golf is basically getting over a third of that,” says Clarke. “The thing about that number that’s interesting is look at the number of bodies required to innovate basketballs. It’s not golf, you know? We get a bigger chunk of that money than we should if you were gonna divide it based on revenue.

“When you asked what happened to us, we starved that (R&D) budget. When you starve R&D in golf, you’re heading down. Take a look at Top-Flite, take a look at MaxFli, at MacGregor – when you starve that bucket, the writing’s on the wall.” – Tim Clarke, Wilson Golf

“I can’t divulge our exact R&D budget,” says Vrksa, “but we do have enough money to do everything we need. We’re trying to hire an advanced innovation engineer, so we’re continuing to grow innovation…I’m not told ‘no’ very often.

“Bottom line is we have enough money…and Amer and Wilson Corporate and Wilson Golf specifically are dedicated to innovation and know we need more. As we grow the business, that will be given.”

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Vrska recently presented to Amer’s chairman of the board on a new prototype iron he’s working on.

“We spent a good amount of time on the prototype, why it’s important and why we’re spending money doing some things we haven’t done recently. The hope is for that iron to come out to consumers in 2016.”

“It’s a little early but I know we’re going to have to have some conversations with the USGA, which is a fun conversation because it means we’re pushing the envelope. Some of the CT rules for irons, we’re going to have to look at.” – Michael Vrksa, Wilson Golf

Realistically, Wilson Golf’s R&D budget may be in the $4 million range, but there is synergy with other Wilson divisions (Fat Shaft evolved from tennis racquet innovation). Callaway’s 2013 R&D budget, on the other hand, was more than $31 million. Can Wilson really expect to compete in the same ball game?

“We’re focused on what we’re doing,” says Vrksa. “We’re an iron company, but we’re an iron company that sells an awful lot of golf balls, and we’re an iron company that’s starting to sell more drivers. But we’re an iron company first and foremost.

“We’re dedicated to making great low-compression golf balls, to making great irons for every player out there and we’re now making inroads in the driver market. Our innovation time, budget and resources are going to be dedicated to that low compression ball, irons and drivers specifically.”

Low Compression Balls – The Next Big Trend?

“What’s funny about low compression is we’ve been low compression leaders since Staff Titanium,” says Clarke. “When golf balls were 110 compression, Staff Titanium was like 80, so we’ve been at the forefront of this since 1997. When you look at what the Duo has done out there…we went from non-existent in the premium ball category to a share, to a point where Callaway launched Super Soft – and that’s basically a Duo knock-off.”

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“Say what you want to say, but there’s no innovation that they did. They basically reverse-engineered a world-class product that we couldn’t patent because of mix and formulation issues. They don’t have the exact formula, but you can get pretty close with enough engineers.” – Tim Clarke, Wilson Golf

“Bridgestone has the same idea. Srixon’s getting softer and the new ProV1’s are getting softer. They don’t talk about it because they’re supposed to be the world-class guys, but make no mistake – if you look at ProV1’s last three changes, what have they changed? They’ve changed the compression, which means compression does matter.”

Wilson Golf is off life-support and finally turning a small profit. But has this narrative put us any closer to really knowing who Wilson Golf is or what the brand stands for?

In our final segment we’ll take a closer look at how Wilson views its Tour players, its equipment philosophy as we enter 2015 and how it handles equipment missteps. And by the end we may have a clearer idea of who Wilson Staff is and where its future may lie.

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Part I – How The Wilson Staff Empire Crumbled
Part III – So What Now, Wilson?

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      The Pickleball

      2 years ago

      I found this article very informative about “WILSON GOLF 2.0 – REBUILDING THE WILSON STAFF BRAND”. Looking forward for more informative articles like this related to The Pickleball Paddles

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      mike webber

      8 years ago

      Mr. Clarke,
      I have been playing Staff since 1965. I still have 16 sets, mostly 1969 and 70-71 button backs. I wrote sports for a daily newspaper in Georgia for 30 years. I still play to a 2 handicap and have a close friend that was a Wilson Staff staffer member for nearly 50 years. He got me started playing Wilsons. I nearly lost both legs to a car wreck 30 years ago but Wilson kept my game going. I would love to do something to help Wilson and so would my friend. He’s retired now but still carries the Wilson brand high. You have me E-Mail and my cell number is 770-617-6910 if you would love to talk. Thanks – Mike Webber

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      rex235

      8 years ago

      Wilson Golf folded it’s historical links at 100 years. I even wrote their President in 1994.
      They missed a tremendous opportunity in 1998 when Staff pro Vijay Singh won the PGA, and didn’t capitalize on their traditions and legacy with both Gene Sarazen and Sam Snead, who were past PGA Champions, and still living. Instead, Wilson told Vijay he had to play the Fatshaft as part of a new contractural agreement. Singh chose to leave Wilson and signed with another company. So Wilson flat out missed the future 2000 Masters and 2004 PGA Champion because of their “Fatshaft Obsession”.
      In 2015, I inquired of Wilson Golf about their previous Custom “SDP” stamping programs, and all the stampings they had done for Staff pros and regular customers. It was known they had kept their records in 3 ring binders, but the Wilson contact person informed me they had lost a number of people, and had made a corporate decision NOT to keep these records available. Sadly, Wilson Golf quit me long before I quit them.

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      José Rolz

      9 years ago

      Best of luck to Wilson Golf. I learned to play with 1952 Wilson Patty Berg clubs, both irons and woods, at age 10. Great clubs.
      Since 2012 I play Wilson FG V2 irons, with NS light shafts. Love them, but I look forward to the new top line irons in 2016.

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      Randy

      9 years ago

      I’ve been a Wilson Golf fan for many years. I play Wilson golf balls all the time. I love the Duo, Zip and FG Tour. I watch for the new club releases. I’d love to try them out at a Demo Day in my area.

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      bc

      9 years ago

      In 2013 brought set of FG V2 Tour irons. Love them, still playing with them today and no thought of changing. Have KBS Tour 90 Reg. shaft. Was playing Callaway X Hot Pro Driver and fairway metal. Thought I loved them. Driver in Feb. had a mechanical problem with the adjustable head. Starting reading looking at video reviews. Notice the reviews and videos on MP3 WS Driver. They stated great club but made a “cracking” noise. Used to play a Nike driver that also made a cracker noise but was great. Brought a driver (9,5-regular shaft), adjusted it to 10.5 with 7 gram weight. Love it, great ball flight and helps me hit it straighter than I thought a “hooker” should. Brought a 17 degree MP3 and have it set at 10.5 with a 7 gram weight. I first used WS in the 50’s and stopped using them in the eariler 7 0’s. Glad to have gone back to them. PS the price I paid for the MP3’s was a fourth of the Big Bertha driver. Thanks WS for great club at wonderful price.

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      JimS

      9 years ago

      Michael Vrksa,
      The fat shaft did not come from the tennis department.
      It came from working on vibration dampening with irons. A company sent a material that was 1/8 thick and I wanted it under the grip. Of course it was to big a diameter to get a grip on so I glued the butt end over the hosel and put the material and grip on the .370 end which was perfect. Looking down at it made me wonder what the torque was with that diameter. I did some calculations and ran to Dr. Carl Schie who said to get some samples made. It was field and pro tested with great results. There is more to the story on get it to market.
      JimS

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      Dan Bucek

      9 years ago

      I have been playing Wilson Staff since I learned to play in 1964….

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      muscleback

      9 years ago

      excellent site…keep up the good work!

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      flaglfr

      9 years ago

      All,
      Wilson is an enigma to me. They WERE one of the premier iron builders in the market when I started playing the game. I actually have some of the early sets still. I loved the feel of the staff blades of the 60’s. Then came the 70’s and Mendralla et al. To me the feel and provenance of Wilson left at that time.

      I have a REAL difficult time with this. At one point, I as SO proud to have Wilson irons in bag. Then I became embarrassed by them. The Wilson irons of the 70’s & 80’s were a real issue that would give anyone nightmares. I would truly hope they could come back from the edge, but I have so many issues with the brand I am not sure I can overcome. The feel of the original blades (before about 1978) was something of legend. This was followed by a VERY long period where they were simply junk.

      The pitiful excuse labeled as improvement was why I converted to Mizuno. I would LOVE to carry a Wilson bag again with pride, but I just don’t see the brand doing what it needs to do with better players. Gotta admit the 100th anniversary blades look really good, but this doesn’t seem to be where they are going. It seems to me to be an anecdote. The FG series of irons truly don’t float my boat. The rest of the lineup isn’t far from the FG’s. In other words, not much to consider with Wilson. They are really going to have to go a long way to get back into my consideration as a top caliber iron.

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      RAT

      9 years ago

      They don’t have as far as you think. The V2 irons are the top rated iron by MGS testing.
      I purchase a set and without a doubt they are the best out there. I have had Callaway, TM, Mizuno and the V2’s are far better in looks feel and playability… . They will surprise you and they will return to the top of the mountain..

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      Nevin

      9 years ago

      I’m glad they are making a comeback. I grew up playing Wilson Staff and back then, they and Hogan were the brands known for quality. I think they need to stay on their current track. Despite what some people say, “more majors thant any other brand” still has some meaning. Many great players have played Wilson Staff. I was in Scotland this summer and over there, they are still clearly identifed as a importaant brand. I would emphasize the “Staff” part moving forward. They do need to be involved with more demo days at clubs. I’ve bought clubs and shafts at the last two demo days and would have loved to have tried their products.

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      Greg

      9 years ago

      The fg tour line is great. Balls, driver and irons all solid. I think a good way to market going forward would be to focus in that classic “staff” name and less in Wilson.

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      Martin Cooper

      9 years ago

      We’ve a completely different view of Wilson here in the UK. They may not have the big name players but are still seen as one of the better brands. I recently came back to the brand and am playing D100 driver and irons. The combination of quality and affordability is very hard to beat. You won’t get the very best technology but it will be close behind at a significantly lower cost.

      They are also starting to get their social media presence in a better place. I look forward to 2015

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      Phife

      9 years ago

      Love the FG Tour ball, nice spin with good distance for a 95 ss guy like me

      Want to check out their new irons,seem sharp. I think the new wilson team has done a great job in coming up with the new products and sites like MGS did its job well in keep on exposing great products from companies like Wilson, while the so-called- golf magazines are ignoring great products outside the regular culprits with tons of advert money (TM,etc) .

      Keep it up MGS.

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      Scott

      9 years ago

      Love the article and what Wilson is trying to do. Pretty insane that there are just a handful of guys running the golf side.

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      RAT

      9 years ago

      I have been a WilsonStaff fan for decades.It is great to hear what the battle plan is for WilsonStaff . I believe its in good hands . No doubt wins on tour would do wonders to bring more attention to the Brand. I like the fact that Wilson has reached out to the fans asking for feedback and following up on them. Now put more demo days out in the country sides, show them you want the chance to give the customer for more than just a sale ,you want them to be a Wilson Warrior. The youth is a good start

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      Jesse Goodwin

      9 years ago

      I live in Australia so I guess I dont have the so called walmart experience. Ive heard a lot if people on here bang on about the Wilson product in Walmart. If you can not determine the fact that Walmart would not stick quality but rather for the beginner then you suffer the consequences. Hearing this crap that because a brand released a product through a place like that is utter crap. I still think Wilson are the elite because I knew what I was looking for. I cracked 3 heads on the cougar cd2 just wasnt cut out for my swing speed but for soneone swinging in the lower range i recommend it. I brought if cougars as a test and i was still shooting low to mid 70’s just the xlub didnt seem like gaving much give. I think peoples perceptions have been so distorted by advertising. If the club feels great then buy it. I picked up the V2’s loved them gamed them and wont trade them. Stop using the walmart excuse to back your opinion. Wilson has won more majors than any other brand, FACT stick that into your decision making process.

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      gunmetal

      9 years ago

      Jesse,

      The problem with your statement is that you are using logic and reason ;)

      The sad reality is that most people are swayed by perception. If Tiger, Rory, Adam, or Phil are using it, surely it must be quality. If it’s in a boxed set in Walmart it must be garbage. Neither of those two statements is by default correct. While it is common knowledge that the Wilson boxed sets in Walmart are of a lesser quality than their Wilson Staff products, it doesn’t mean that they aren’t fine for a certain demographic.

      But I agree with Clarke. Perception in a sense becomes reality. If guys here, on WRX, and other forums (serious golfers) don’t take Wilson serious because of the Walmart factor, then that’s a problem – they don’t even look at the V2 Irons or TC Wedges. Pulling your stuff out of Walmart is a good start to restoring your brand as a premium brand, IMO.

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      RAT

      9 years ago

      Have you looked lately at Walmart stuff? Callaway, Taylormade , Nike are there too either in their name or a brand subbed by them… Soooooo ?

      Jose Rolz

      9 years ago

      Great articles; look forward to the 3erd in the series. I am really glad Wilson Golf is serious about making a comeback. I started playing golf with my parents at age 8, using Mom’s Patty Berg model irons and woods until age 14. I played HS and College in late ’50’s and ’60’s ; and have continued playing Club golf since. As a dedicated follower of the game, I realized some good Pros were now playing Wilson irons. So in 2013 I contacted Mike Salvano at Wilson and ordered FG V2 Tour forged irons with regular flex, light weight NS shafts. WOW, what a great combination. Love these irons. I cannot wait for the new irons that will come out in 2016. My son is a senior at Texas Wesleyan U, at Ft. Worth, TX, and made NAIA First Team All America in golf in 2014. We are going to contact Wilson to consider sponsoring my son with these FG V4 Tour irons. I think the tungsten insert at the bottom gives these irons even more playability and feel than the FG V2 ‘s that I am playing. I am also playing the FG Wilson ball. Great going Wilson. Keep climbing the mountain.

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      RAT

      9 years ago

      Bethel University Tennessee has help from R&D Wilson Humbolt, he should have gone there.

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      gunmetal

      9 years ago

      Of the 20-30 sets of Irons I’ve used over the past 15 years (I own a fitting studio so I tend to try out a bunch of stuff), the Pi7’s are in the top 5. I think Paddy may have used them for some if not all of his majors. I love Wilson Staff products. I will love them more if they continue this trend of moving away from the box sets and keep on releasing premium stuff. Now I have to check out the V2’s, dangit!

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      Oiler3535

      9 years ago

      Good pair of articles so far. I’m looking for a new ball (finally run of 2011 yellow Zstars), and since I don’t play a lot of spin around greens, I’m very much considering giving at least a sleeve of W/S balls a try. And because of this article and a few other things I’ve read the next time I get irons (can’t afford this year, so 2016 irons I’ll be watching for!) I’ll be seriously considering W/S. I’ll admit I’m one of those who haven’t taken them seriously, but will now.

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      Tom Duckworth

      9 years ago

      I’m a musician and both Gibson and Fender guitars were ruined by big corporations. They didn’t make a comeback until they were bought buy people who new that the quality had to be there. You can’t fool someone who plays every day who really uses something as a tool day in and day out. I love my FG-17 irons they are still some of the best blades ever made. I didn’t look at Wilson for years until I tried out the FG Tour V2s. I tested them against a number of the top irons and they just slowly won me over. Great irons really good feel and pretty forgiving. I am looking forward to trying the FG Tour V4s Wilson really should be thought of in the same vein as Titleist or Ping but they have a ways to go to climb out of the hole they dug themselves into. I don’t know what it will take to get them more to the forefront in the stores but I would like to be able to see them side by side with the other brands at Golf Smith. I had to ask for them and they had to go look in back to see if they even had a 6 iron for me to try out. Very poor marketing on someones part even though the the staff at the store all liked them. I don’t think the Wilson name means much to people under the age of 50. I hope that changes.

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      jesse goodwin

      9 years ago

      Good read, found out more about Wilson Staff. I reckon there irons will go from strength to strength. FG Tour V2, V4 series will defenitely be the one to watch and feel it will be something to watch. I have the V2 irons and the VISOR M4 putter also a great addition to the bag. I play off 5. Marketing for theA grade golfer in club golf is important. I know when I was growing up in the game I took notice what the A grade club golfer had in his bag not the touring pro. A grade golfers are on the ground closer to the target auidence. Guys ask what changes I have made and I simply reply I got these Wilson’s in the bag. A 10 handicapper had purchased Titliest and was using them on the practice fairway, I said try these. He did I can right what he said but he was certainly amazed at the product I handed him(FG Tour V2 irons).

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      Gary

      9 years ago

      Love the Staff. Play all of their stuff, its all great, but a lot of players wont give it the time of day. They dont think the quality is there, but it is….and it performs!! I think the roleouts of new product is off…it should come out early dec. so the sales could get a bump from holiday purchases, and magazine reviews. Instead they role it out in early spring and give most of the other manufacturers a head start. But I am a huge fan!! I play the.M3 driver and 3 wood, with fg tour/fg62 irons combo set, fg tour wedges and the 8802 anniversary putter. Try their stuff…..you wont be disappointed.

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      Plaidjacket

      9 years ago

      Good, interesting article. I was reintroduced to Wilson last year about this time. I was in a local sporting goods store and wandered by their golf section. Looking at the balls I noticed some Wilson Staff FG Tour and FG Tour-x balls on sale for $19.95/dz. Never heard of them. I read over the box and noticed they had urethane covers as well. I love balls with urethane. So, I grabbed a box and headed up to the register. When the cashier scanned them they came up at $9.95/dz. I hesitated for a moment but pointed out that the shelf tag said $19.95. She called for a price check and told me they were on final closeout and in fact were $9.95!! I immediately rushed back to the aisle and grabbed two more dozen. Turned out that was the last of the inventory. The FG’s played great. As well as any other premium $45-$48 ball on the market. After that I started looking at Wilson again. I’ve since purchased a WS stand bag (sadly not the Nexus) but the next model down and love it. It’s a quality good looking and functional bag. I’ve since asked around my area/town from time to time about Wilson Staff golf equipment but no one carries any. In fact the bag I stumbled onto at one of our muni courses was the only one they had and the pro was glad to discount it and move it. I asked the guy that owns one of our local golf retail store whey he doesn’t at least carry the FG balls and his reply was basically because no one would buy them. He sells all the Titleist, Bridgestone, and Callaway he can get his hands on. Wilson has a most difficult road ahead but I personally would like to see them back in the game where they belong. If I could post a photo here I’d show you my old Wilson Staff Model “Fluid Feel” DynaPower blades and matching set of Staff II 4300 woods. I acquired them back in about 1971. I think they are ’68 or ’69 models. One of these days I’m going to have the irons re-chromed and the wood refinished and display them on the wall in my home office. That’d be cool.

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      Rick

      9 years ago

      I’ve owned and played Mizuno MP32, Mp37, TN87 and Titleist 690MB and 695MB. The Wilson FG62’s are by far the best iron I have ever played.

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      Regis

      9 years ago

      Very honest and straightforward interview. And perhaps the best written sports article I’ve read in a long time (with all due deference to others)

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      Derek

      9 years ago

      I grew up with Wilson Staff blades. One of my biggest regrets is getting rid of them. I am glad to to see Wilson coming back. The fg tour blades are amazing. Better golf shop presence and another staff player or two would be a tremendous boost.

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      blstrong (SeeRed)

      9 years ago

      Very interesting series of articles- thanks for putting this together. Both the FG Tour and Duo are very good balls. I’ve also just replaced my Sun Mountain carry bag with the WS Nexus bag and love it. Also, you don’t have to look very hard on this site to find glowing reviews of WS clubs- both irons and drivers. Seems like the WS leadership and staff have pointed the golf division in the right direction. Looking forward to reading Part III.

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      markb

      9 years ago

      Very good series Joe. An enjoyable insiders look. Wilson is getting back in the discussion and sometimes winning the debate. They are definitely ahead of the curve in Soft Compression balls. The tough part is FINDING their gear. I have to buy my FG Tour balls off the internet although I can find Duo’s locally. I’ve still never seen a Nexus bag in a shop, but I’ve seen them on the course (superb design!)

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      Tom54

      9 years ago

      I’m a fan of the FG Tour ball. Good distance and feel, and feels good on the putter. The Duo is a really fun ball to hit off the tee from driver down to about 7 iron. After that it’s a little sketchy but, again, you can absolutely nuke it off the tee.

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      proside

      9 years ago

      found a bunch of WS balls in the weeds yesterday. Not sure if that’s positive or not.
      One cheap fix would be to get rid of the tired old dated logo. Brand recognition recognition counts for a ot and if the brand is recognized as crap it’s got to be changed.

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      Peter Ciambrone

      9 years ago

      Good series of articles, nice to read about another golf company besides the big ones, I wish them well and will certainly look into some of their products, particularly the balls, thanks. Happy new year!

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      TwoSolitudes

      9 years ago

      Are those head covers made by Stitch? Pretty sharp.

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      TwoSolitudes

      9 years ago

      Really loving this series. Thanks for the effort guys, it’s a great read. Can’t wait for part 3.

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      Tom

      9 years ago

      I think one of the problems with Wilson (at least near me) there aren’t a ton of places you can test out the clubs. My pro doesn’t carry anything by Wilson and I dont think many of the pro shops in my area do either.

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      Lou

      9 years ago

      I agree with you. I think if they want to do the “put the money where the mouth is” type of thing, they should be heading out and joining demo days and having the amateurs out there test their equipment. I’ve never seen a Wilson Staff tent in my area (and to be fair – Nike either).

      I don’t doubt what he’s saying, but word of mouth goes a long way too. That and taking their name off of the wal-mart crap gives them more credibility.

      Oh, and I’ve gamed the Wilson Spine driver and hated it. It sounded like a softball bat. It’s one of the reasons I stopped looking at Wilson.

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      Shane

      9 years ago

      If only more oeoe would just give WS a chance! Yeah, you guys don’t churn out drivers ever month but who cares! I still use my D100 and FG but am anxiously awaiting the new 200 line! Great products all around bar none! It’s great to see and try the gear as the local course is awesome to let us demo it all! On a side niote please bring the head covers in the photo in the ad to retail!!!!!! The Duo balls are excellent ad wel ad the Zips that I have stockpiled! Congrats and looking forward to the coming year!

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      Bill

      9 years ago

      The Duo is a top competitor for low compression balls, that’s great. The FG Tour Ball holds its own also although it’s still evolving. LOVE the anniversary head covers in the photo.
      NOW, if the V4s perform and they keep evolving their woods in direction they are heading they should keep growing. At this point they need a breakthrough, better than the rest product. Even if it isn’t a big profit maker, the umbrella over the rest of the line will put Staff in a different light.
      Killing off the box set mentality is great news. Staff is a premium brand. Sell it!

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