Seven Dreamers & The World’s Most Expensive Shaft
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Seven Dreamers & The World’s Most Expensive Shaft

Seven Dreamers & The World’s Most Expensive Shaft

Is $1200 a lot for a golf shaft? It sounds like a lot, particularly for an entry-level model.

It is, and Seven Dreamers Laboratories is entirely good with that.

Seven Dreamers started in 1957 as a company called Super Resin. As it developed industry-leading technologies in composite materials with industrial and aerospace applications, the company mantra of “creating things the world has never seen” led to some remarkable achievements. After becoming the global leader in molding carbon fiber reinforced plastics (CFRPs) in the 1970s, Super Resin produced parts for Japan’s Hayabusa satellite project in the 1990s.

The company vision of seven centers of excellence throughout the world, focuses on everything from advancements in aerospace engineering, to sleep devices and even a fully automated laundry folding machine which can separate according to fabric type and member of the family to which each article of clothing belongs. It’s the company that creates the ” I can’t believe a company can actually make that” category of products, and as of 2014, Seven Dreamers broached the uber-premium golf shaft market and quickly assumed the title of most expensive production golf shaft in the world.

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In every consumer market there exists products which unapologetically price out the majority of would-be consumers – and it’s also nothing new to golf, though, until the advent of PXG, it was a dynamic more in play in Asia (Japan and Korea largely) where $75K can buy one a full bag of Honma Beres Five-Star series clubs and a whole bunch of 24K gold-plated street credit.

The eye-popping prices on such items serve to attract a clientele for whom several zeros one way or another determine how many pairs of Jimmy Choo shoes to purchase and whether or not it’s getting old to ski Vail every single winter break. First world problems indeed.

But there are also supporting technology and production processes which are more expensive – and theoretically lead to improved performance, though not necessarily by the same magnitude as the difference in price – even when compared to products which are generally thought of as premium. Regardless, it’s a best of the best portion of the market which sits somewhere beyond typical designations like premium and elite. The rules are different in these spaces because the customers operate under a different set of principles which can be contrary to how the majority of markets operate.

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UBER-PREMIUM SHAFTS

Actual shaft manufacturing is more technical than the following description, however in the interest of brevity, the common process begins with sheets of prepreg (material of combined resin (glue) and carbon fiber) wrapped in various orientations around a steel mandrel. Depending on the desired weight, flex and internal/external dimensions of the shaft, each section (industry types call them flags) of prepreg is placed in a specific pattern along the mandrel.

Once complete, the layers of prepreg are wrapped with a thin, shrinkable tape and baked in an oven under approximately 1 atm of pressure. As the sheets are heated, resin is allowed to bond the layers together. Then, the tape and mandrel are removed, and surface inconsistencies are sanded away, leaving what is, in theory anyway, a perfectly round shaft. Finally, the shaft is painted. The net result is any mass-produced shaft, even those with premium price tags, built within a range of spec tolerances (weight, flex, and torque). There’s plenty of good-natured debate around the degree to which changes in said specs impact performance, but the reality is the tighter the tolerances, the more expensive it is to manufacture.

Seven Dreamers primary point of distinction is a unique and proprietary process which, it asserts, results in shafts with superior construction and performance and unparalleled consistency from shaft to shaft.

Seven Dreamers uses an autoclave rather than oven-baking each shaft. This allows Seven Dreamers to use shaft molds (rather than shrinkable tape) inside the autoclave which place each shaft under 6-10 atm of pressure, squeezing out any excess resin. The layers are cured, leaving a hardened, perfectly round shaft. Because the final product doesn’t require any grinding or coating, the aesthetic is entirely inconspicuous and void of any inconsistencies. Without any paint, the shaft is a naked carbon weave with a decidedly generic “Seven Dreamers” monogram and serial number. If it looks unfinished, it is only because we’re conditioned to see the final paint scheme as something OEMs often do to differentiate product and garner attention from TV/media audiences.

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The real substantive difference is not that the process yields shafts manufactured to exceedingly tight tolerances but that it helps to mitigate the usual trade-off of weight and stability. Any company can make a shaft both heavy and stiff. It’s like asking the head chef at a fine French restaurant for a PB & J.

However, to achieve a low launch, low spin profile in a sub-70 gram package, which retains ample stability and a signature feel; well that comes at a cost – and a rather steep one.

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I generally fit best in tip-stiff driver shafts in the 75-gram range (think Project X HZDRUS Black, Mitsubishi Diamana Whiteboard/’Ahina). Any lighter and dispersion suffers. Much heavier and swing speed (which maxes out around 112 mph) drops off drastically. This Seven Dreamers T-series shaft is 67 grams but plays with the stability of heavier premium shafts, particularly in the tip section. The butt section, if anything, felt a bit soft, comparable to the Graphite Design AD-DI 7x.

The decrease in weight should theoretically lead to increased peak swing speed, but based on numbers gathered from my Foresight GC2, I didn’t experience any statistically significant increase in swing speed, though my peak ball speed was 1-2 MPH higher than typical. Dispersion wasn’t appreciably better or worse.  Some golfers are very sensitive to the total weight of a golf club and moving 8-10 grams either direction could be a major adjustment, though I suspect it’s easier to adjust to a lighter shaft than a heavier one. Depending on what bend profile a consumer requires, Seven Dreamers offers 28 different shafts (ranging from 40 grams to 80 grams) in the stock, J Global Design series ($1200 MSRP) which is now available in North America through select, high-end fitters.

If the need is a one-off bespoke shaft custom built for only your swing, Seven Dreamers does that too, but it will require a visit to one of two studios in Tokyo and $2500.

RATIONAL OR RATIONALE?

Seven Dreamer’s story is one of both quantitative and qualitative appeal. From a materials and process standpoint, everything Seven Dreamers does is undeniably premium and given the plethora of available shafts; this isn’t a play to attract primarily high swing-speed players. That said, any number of shaft OEM’s (e.g., Mitsubishi Chemical and Fujikura) can make this same claim, though one can debate whether or not Seven Dreamers proprietary production process is empirically better than that of long-standing market leaders. That said, in my individual testing, the Seven Dreamers shaft performed commensurate with other premium shafts I’ve tested, which one would expect given the price tag. Pragmatically, it offered a titch more ball speed but at a lighter total weight.

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That fact alone won’t satisfy the concrete sequential, value-based consumers but for potential buyers for whom cost is of no consequence, the criteria are different, and the rules are such that most of us can’t relate – hence the qualitative nature of uber-premium products. When the topic is $38,000 House of Testoni shoes, $500 M yachts or a Gulfstream G-650, it’s an entirely different beast where ironically, price really has very little to do with the purchasing decision.

It’s about buying a brand and investing in that identity as much as it is about the product. It’s a commitment to be able to state without reservation your product is by some measure, the absolute best in the world – and it’s not necessary that others agree.

Seven Dreamers isn’t well-known, even by the gearhead metric and one long-tenured industry insider had reservations around whether Seven Dreamers will become a mainstay in the evolving ultra-premium segment of the market. While it continues plans to reach deeper into the North American market, I wouldn’t expect Seven Dreamers to dilute the price point or do anything which marginalizes the exclusivity of the product or name. As a brand, it’s the consummate wild card. Tour players are dabbling more in the ultra-premium shaft space. If one of them win while bagging a Seven Dreamers shaft (Charl Schwartzel nearly did at The Players this year) it could create momentum similar to what we’ve seen with TPT, which was in Jason Day’s driver when he won the Wells Fargo earlier this year and in Justin Rose’s bag during several worldwide wins late in 2017.

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Beyond the exclusive nature of Seven Dreamers shafts, it begs a fundamental yet divisive question – Is this the holy grail of shaft manufacturing or is it yet another attempt to create a distinction without any real difference?

So what should we do next? Ignore it? Test it?

For more information, visit the Seven Dreamers Laboratories website.

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      Joeg Voll

      5 years ago

      I don’t understand your comment? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. If the content…articles & reviews on MyGolfSpy were a limited or set commodity, then your complaint/criticism would have some validity. But it (mygolfspy) is not (set/limited) so it (your comment) is not (valid).
      I quite enjoyed the article, and in fact, I sought it out, because I was quite intrigued by the idea of a shaft that costs apx. 4x more than the avg. New, Premium, High Performance driver shafts on the market. The Iron Set models cost even more! (Source: Tour Spec. Golf) and Yes! I hope MyGolfSpy reviews these also. Even though I would never even consider paying these prices for shaft(s) and I’m filthy rich (I light my $225 “Casro El Prima Viva Cubano Especials” with $100 bills and I light myn$100 bills with my $85,000.00 22kt. Diamond Engraved Plasma Beam Lighter. But I still find it quite interesting and intriguing!
      So Speak For Yourself! As for my family & I…We Enjoyed this masterly crafted, well written and thought out review. The irony would make O.Henry proud!!! I am not exaggerating when I say: “This! This my friend is Pulitzer material!

      Reply

      Taylor Deaton

      6 years ago

      Chris,

      I’m an amateur golfer who plays a mix of 80’s era Karsten Ping and OTR Walter Hagen clubs. Essentially the exact opposite end of the buying spectrum Brenda like SD market to. However, I wanted to take a moment and thank you for writing that is always sharp, focused, eloquent, and insightful. After the ‘true cost’ read recently I wowed my men’s leaguers with an (dare I say comprehensive?) insider style explication of putters’ likely production costs, true milling vs skim milling, and, maybe a bit gleefully, how one well to do Scotty Cameron acolyte did not have quantitatively ‘better’ stainless steel simply because it came from Germany. (A point he challenged, guess who I sent him to go read? ?)

      Anyway, as a golfer who has not been handicapped, plays a Snake Eyes blade flat stick from who knows when, and is madly in love with the game, I immensely appreciate openings such as these into echelons of the golfing stratosphere I otherwise wouldn’t have access to. When the old timers at the muni give me a hard time for requesting ANOTHER bucket of balls to hit (I bought the range pass for a reason, GUY) it’s always nice to have some expertise stored away, just in case the old bone fides get called into question. Thanks again, you’re the man!

      -taylor from Lexington, KY

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      Abel Jimenez

      6 years ago

      NOPE

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      Chris Nickel

      6 years ago

      If the tech is as good, if not slightly better than what’s currently available, how is it “fake”? That said, I’ll grant you that the autoclave process doesn’t have a track record of excellence, but there’s really only two companies using it ( Seven Dreamers and TPT). In terms of what the shaft can or cannot do, it would be impossible to reach any conclusion as we haven’t tested it yet. For me, it was slightly more efficient. Whether that’s “substantial” is debatable.

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      Brad

      6 years ago

      Is this a product that even 1% of MGS readers would ever consider purchasing though? Probably not.

      Bentley are also selling branded golf clubs for an outrageous price. Fine to talk about them (as you did in the article “IS THIS JAY Z’S NEW IRON?” back in 2016), but would there be any valid reason to then go purchase and run full scale tests on them? Not that I can see. That time would be better spent instead on testing equipment at least some of your readers would even consider purchasing and using. Same thing here.

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      Skip

      6 years ago

      All these people hurt by the price. If you can’t afford it, don’t buy it. Doesn’t make it a bad product.

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      Stu

      6 years ago

      Anyone who buys one of these is literally and figuratively getting shafted..

      Reply

      Jon

      6 years ago

      Like

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      Duffy McHackster

      6 years ago

      The only way I’m getting anywhere near one of these is if MGS needs testers.

      Reply

      Jack Wullkotte

      6 years ago

      I worked with a gentleman for 15 years, who bought every cotton pickin new shaft, golf club, golf ball, and new gimmick that was available, regardless of cost. When he first came to me, he was a 14 handicapper. Fifteen years later, after purchasing all these new accessories and taking 2 lessons per week from one of the top instructors in the world, his handicap is still 14. Nice guy, but lots of money and dreams that never come true.

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      Brandon

      6 years ago

      Douche magnet.

      Reply

      Brad

      6 years ago

      Equipment like this is for pretenders, not players. Please don’t give these sort of products any air time unless they are actually so exceptionally better at what they do that it can be shown to make a statistically significant advantage over competitive products. If it only makes a 0.5-1% improvement then it might help a Tour Pro win or place higher by saving them a stroke over an entire tournament, but it would not be worth the money for any amateur with half a brain. Unless they are a pretender with more money than sense…

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      P.J.

      6 years ago

      I’ve only got one word for these shafts….Nope!

      Reply

      P.J.

      6 years ago

      Nope….

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      Gerry

      6 years ago

      Products like this are simultaneously pseudo-tech and pseudo-luxury. Jimmy Choo shoes are pure luxury and make no claims to be “technically superior” in any real sense, but they’re completely honest about this. Likewise a Ferrari 812 may not be the absolute fastest, but there is no doubt that it is at least one of the fastest and best performing sports cars out there. You may not like the price, but you know darn well you’re getting something substantial and measurable. This is nothing more than a carbon fiber composite tube. It simply cannot be shown to perform substantially better than good products from other shaft manufacturers – yet they make some sort of claim their product is technically superior by virtue of the engineering and materials and process. Fake luxury, fake tech, pure BS.

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      Chris Nickel

      6 years ago

      If the tech is as good, if not slightly better than what’s currently available, how is it “fake”? That said, I’ll grant you that the autoclave process doesn’t have a track record of excellence, but there’s really only two companies using it ( Seven Dreamers and TPT). In terms of what the shaft can or cannot do, it would be impossible to reach any conclusion as we haven’t tested it yet. For me, it was slightly more efficient. Whether that’s “substantial” is debatable.

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      Michael Donovan

      6 years ago

      I have a USGA approved insert for golf shafts that I can guarantee is more consistent than this golf shaft and I will send you one for testing ..

      Rob

      6 years ago

      The real question is why someone like Ian Poulter – decent golfer, who has about seven Ferraris – does not use this sort of shaft

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      mackdaddy

      6 years ago

      I have used the same shaft in my drivers since 2008. I won it in a tournament on a tour issue R9 from Jim Thorpe. It is a Matrix Ozik TP 7 HD. At the time I won it they sold for $1000. When I broke the face on the R9 I sent it back to Taylormade and they tried to keep the shaft because It had not been issued to me. I had to send pictures of him giving it to me before They sent it back with a Rocketballs Stage 2 tour issue head attached. It worked great in that head too. I now play a 2016 M1 on it and it is awesome. The thing that impressed me was when I took it to a fitter to spine it and he said it was the same in every direction. That combined with the low torque and soft feel will keep it in my drivers for a long long time.

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      Steve S

      6 years ago

      Testing? Don’t bother. Your results tell the story.

      Reply

      Rick

      6 years ago

      I really wonder what the market size is for these “ultra premium” type products.

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      Robin

      6 years ago

      Carbon Fiber is only made in China for a reason.

      Reply

      C

      6 years ago

      What?

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      Al

      6 years ago

      Another gold plated Lamborghini? Based on your putter cost expose, is the actual mfg. cost about $100 with 1000 percent mark-up on-up?

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      ROBERT PACE

      6 years ago

      maybe this is the new evolution of shafting.
      kinda like going from wood to steel shafts.
      maybe all shafts will be made this way in 20 years,
      remember cd burners at 15,000 and now blu rays are 29 at ralphs
      i just re-shafted my whole bag with these
      picked up 70 yards off the tee had 14 holes in 1
      oh wait i thought i was the leader of north korea for a minute hehehe
      shaft, shafting, SHAFTED. hope your smiling right now.

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      Russ

      6 years ago

      Seems to me there has been shafts/clubs that have hit the market with hefty prices for some time now. I ask myself, “Are the tour players that I’m sure use these clubs in the worlds top 5?” When the answer comes back a resounding “NO” I stick with my much-less-expensive-though-fit -for-me clubs. Did allow me to think that using better shafts though more costly than a simple model change did improve my game.

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      Jon Shaver

      6 years ago

      Performance is in the hands of the holder! I’ve been fitted for my pxg’s now twice —1st and 2nd gen. Both times Fuji pro 95 shafts. Acceptable performance but decided to change the gen 2s to Recoil 460 es f4’s and what an improvement! 7 yards per club more distance. Better launch angle. Better spin.
      Better workability, better results. Period. Oh and the recoils are 31 bucks a shaft. Not 1200. Not 300. 31 bucks. I’m down to a 4 index from 5.5 just from the shaft changes and the ball striking improvement that has come with them.

      One man’s experience.

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      Jon

      6 years ago

      This shaft costs more than my first two cars…COMBINED!! Unless this shaft GUARANTEES you’ll hit the ball with the center of the club-face on every swing, it’s nothing more than another status-symbol for the rich and disconnected…Even if I were independently wealthy, I wouldn’t seek-out any such product…I’d simply find the best fitting facility and allow them to assemble the best possible clubs for my swing..THAT would be worth an extra 0…Maybe…

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      Steven

      6 years ago

      I agree 110%

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      Martien Schwencke

      6 years ago

      My wife is 56 and strted with gof 6 years ago , uses a 25 dollar senior shaft from Diamond Golf, she hits it mostly over 200 yards ….

      Reply

      BRIANM

      6 years ago

      $1200 dollar shafts, $600 putters, $300 head covers, getting spanked by the kid from the local muni with hand me down clubs…priceless.

      Reply

      Lex

      6 years ago

      I really like that, although I had a couple of hits with my golf buds new t/made M1 and hit it 10 meters past my norm with the same effort, I have an idea the shaft had something to do with that, but not a $1200 improvement….wow

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      John Freedman

      6 years ago

      I am sure they are very fine golf shafts. But as far as I am concerned they can keep dreamin’.

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      John Krug

      6 years ago

      Reminds me of the Shah of Iran who had a solid gold toilet. At least that had real value.

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      The Club Nut

      6 years ago

      There’s really no reason to buy into these ultra high priced products. Especially ones from Japan, where the cost of your bag is related to how well your game is perceived.

      I carry Fujikura and Project X in my shop almost exclusively. I special order other shafts that golfers want, but those two companies pretty much hit the pricepoint and swing requirements of 99.9% of golfers. I’ve found OBAN and other more boutique brands to be decent quality but there’s nothing that can’t be found in a current manufacturer’s catalog. That’s what we as fitters do – we dial in that perfect shaft for you. It’s because of this wide availability that these extremely expensive shafts come out. The expense is more in the process and not the shaft. Tolerances are pretty darn good between shafts now, and more or less every manufacturer uses the mandrel and tape method. SevenDreamers is trying to stand out by price and look. It’s a unique look to them because it’s created by their manufacturing process. Good for them. The shaft performance itself isn’t worth that much money. There are plenty out there and you’re only looking at 1/3 of the SD pricing. Spend it on lessons.

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      Greg Mitchell

      6 years ago

      The shafts are a show piece for the rich and elite and maybe some tour pros if the launch monitor shows improved performance.

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      Robert Dwyer

      6 years ago

      Leave it for the “elite” with more money than brains!

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      Chris Nickel

      6 years ago

      Roberty – Generally speaking, “they” didn’t get that much money due to lack of cerebral ability. That said, golfers are both the smartest dumb people and dumbest smart people in the world.

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      Gary McCormick

      6 years ago

      “I didn’t experience any statistically significant increase in swing speed, though my peak ball speed was 1-2 MPH higher than typical. Dispersion wasn’t appreciably better or worse.”

      So… insignificant performance benefit with an ultra-premium price tag. This is just a “Look at me, I’m stinkin’ rich” product; there’s no justification for its price, or its existence.

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      Doug

      6 years ago

      Yeah Gary, that’s pretty much it. The only people that this real makes any sense for are tour pros, who have real money at stake, where any nuance could make a difference. And if the end result was really that good, we’d already see way more tour pros flocking to it, so the gains are clearly negligible or non-factors. In the end, it’s the case of the bag full of 24K gold Honmas (which by the way, I think are god awful gaudy looking!)

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      Bob

      6 years ago

      Why test it if only 1% of golfers will ever be able to use them.
      As a side note I was on a Mizuno ball site. They have $1200/dz balls…. roflmao

      Patrick B

      6 years ago

      I wouldn’t necessarily agree. The print is ridiculous, but instant performance gains aren’t always the only thing it pays to invest in. Improvements in process, materials,and efficiency and/ durability can all be worthwhile investment. While I acknowledge that those achievements aren’t likely to interest the more money than sense brigade targeted here–the fleecing of which I’m never opposed to–any one of them makes a legitimate case for this shafts existence.
      Now the true test would be sending some of your dedicated MyGolfSpy readers to Tokyo for a little fitting…

      Reply

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