Should We Roll Back The Golf Ball? | #NoPuttsGiven 42
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Should We Roll Back The Golf Ball? | #NoPuttsGiven 42

Should We Roll Back The Golf Ball? | #NoPuttsGiven 42

Should we roll back the golf ball, is square the future of shoe design, and what brand would you NOT let sponsor you? All this and more on episode 42 of No Putts Given.

  • 0:52  – Bryson Dechambeau’s impressive drive distances has revitalized the argument: Should we roll back the golf ball?
  • 37:44  – If you think the word “SQAIRZ” looks strange, wait ’til you see their shoe. Is square the new shape of golf innovation?
  • 47:57  – What brand or product would you NOT let sponsor you?
  • 53:56  – Getting Knighted by Sir Nick, and the verdict on square shoe designs

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      Chris R

      4 years ago

      I’ll be the contrarian here. I don’t know that rolling the ball back for everyone or bifurcating the ball is the answer here, but I also don’t think allowing nearly every great venue to become obsolete is the right answer either. Other sports have modified their game when it became less interesting (yes, I think smash and wedge is boring to watch). Basketball added the 3 point line in part because the game got boring with everyone playing above and close to the rim. A bombed drive on TV isn’t really observable. The viewer only knows it’s long because the announcers tell you how long it was, or you can sort of see it with shot tracer. The shots that you can really see on TV are the shaped irons, clever bump and runs, or sliding putts. I watch pro golf to see the venues as much as the tournament; it makes me think about how I would play the course.. And most important in that is observing how the players used to take on the risk reward calculation that most of them now can overpower. It would be great if MGS brought on a couple course designers for their opinion. I heard Bill Coore on another pod talk about how he shortened a course and cut down the rough for a major just so the pros would be worried about smashing one through the fairway into trouble; so there are some options besides just long rough to keep a course relevant. But… if the discussion does come back to the ball, I would think that there’s a way to engineer a golf ball to stop performing well if over compressed. So for example once the swing speed exceeds 110 MPH, make sure that there are seriously diminishing marginal returns and loss of control with that added speed/compression. Kinda like hitting the cover off the baseball..

      I enjoy listening to the podcast, and rarely wish I could call in and comment; but on this topic… I want to keep seeing todays golfers take on the classic courses as well as new ones.

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      Will Anderson

      4 years ago

      Rolling back the ball is not the answer. As said, would absolutely kill the game. I agree with the mega rough, but put that everywhere not just over 300, if your short and innaccurate, kiss your tour card goodbye. That way the punishment is on inaccurrate player not just long ones. If the longer player is coming down the stretch and needs to make birdies he is gonna risk and if he pulls it off it good for the game.

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      Will Anderson

      4 years ago

      Oh and ps. Dont poll the players. Ask anyone if they want thier job to be harder. Its not gonna end well. Poll the fans. The one paying for these guys to be out there.

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      Mike

      4 years ago

      The USGA is like the guy in the movie Casablanca who “shocked, shocked to learn there’s gambling going on here”, just as one of his employees hands him his cut! They sat with a thumb up their ass for years and did nothing,. Now, they’re talking about some ridiculous ball rollback that the world of branding and marketing which we live in will never go for. Can you imagine Tiger saying “although I have to play this dialed-down tournament ball, you should still believe me when I tell you that the Bridgestone ball they pay me to endorse is still a really really good ball”. I like the idea of graduated rough as you get further out from the whole. Also, a few pot bunkers in the 300-320 range could keep a shorter par 4 from being a driver and a flip wedge. BTW, ask Adam Scott how effective a pot bunker is, it cost him an Open championship. But the USGA will talk. And talk. And talk. 10 years from now, we’ll still be having the same conversation. Yes, technology and fitness has made some great courses obsolete for the .00000 1% of the folks the pros who play them.

      Given we have a short season this year, once The Masters is over, was the USGA poll the players, and really get into some ideas of how to, not necessarily dial back the ball, but how to improve the game at a professional level.

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      Jonathan

      4 years ago

      DeChambeau is not only carrying the ball incredible distances, he is carrying the ball accurately. To have the talent to be able to do that should be rewarded, not punished. If you reign in the ball, then he’ll still be hitting it the longest. A natural defense for a course is the rough. Hit it wayward and you get punished with a poor lie. The solution is not to reign in the ball but to actually grow the rough to the point where accuracy is a premium over the 300 yard mark. If DeChambeau (and those who subsequently become capable of and develop the same skill) can hit it long and accurately, then they should be rewarded. If they miss the short grass then they should be in quite deep rough (aka Junk) to counter the distance they hit it. Effectively, they will know they need to pull the shot off or else the risk is a potentially terrible lie.

      Rough under 300 yards? Standard tour “rough”. The kind where the only punishment is losing spin/risk of a flyer.

      Rough past 300 yards? The Junk. The kind where the big hitters know if they “miss” then they will be facing an ugly lie and gouging it out means it could go anywhere.

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      JT

      4 years ago

      Nope. they let it get this way. What is it like .001% of the population can actually bomb it to where it matters. Narrow up the fairways, grow out the rough. USGA already reluctant to change any archaic rules but want to roll back tech? Most of the courses an Open would be held on the average joe can’t afford anyway.

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