Useful Evolution: The Changing Face of Golf GPS
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Useful Evolution: The Changing Face of Golf GPS

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Useful Evolution: The Changing Face of Golf GPS

We tend to take technology for granted, don’t we?

If you remember rotary phones, UHF television, and AM radio, the fact you can buy a device that communicates – legally – with a freaking satellite is pretty mind-blowing. And get this: the freaking satellite can communicate back and tell you exactly where you are on the planet and, within a few yards, how far away you are from something.

And not for nothing, you can also shoot an honest-to-God laser beam at a stationary object. It won’t vaporize or anything fun like that, but you will find the distance to the tenth-of-a-yard. And let’s not even get into that whole Pythagorean uphill/downhill adjustment.

What in the name of Duck Dodgers in the 24½th Century is going on here?

It’s golf tech, my friends. We have Star Trek-level stuff giving us more information than we’ve ever had before. Does any of this help you play better? Well, that, of course, is entirely up to how you choose to use – or not use – it.

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Laser, Watch, or Handheld?

This past summer, the SkyCaddie SX500 copped “2019 Best Handheld Device” in MyGolfSpy’s GPS Buyer’s Guide. Our testers appreciated the SX500’s visuals, functionality and feature set, so we thought it might be interesting to take a deeper dive into the technology behind it all and discuss how – and if – it might matter when you’re on the course.

Whether to use a laser, watch, or handheld (a stand-alone like the SX500, or a phone app) is an age-old question, kind of like Ginger vs. Mary Ann. There’s no shortage of options in this particular golf technology category, and every year the technology improves. That’s true for both the hardware and the software.

“We’ve had handheld devices through the years,” says Paul Calabrase, National Sales Manager for SkyGolf, maker of SkyCaddie GPS watches and handhelds. “Technology is now catching up and giving us hardware advancements, so we can give golfers close to the same detailed information Tour players use in their yardage books.”

Do you remember what it was like back in the dark ages of oh, say, 1999? We’d hunt for the 150-marker, step off the approximate yards to our ball, do a little mental trigonometry to adjust for topography, pick a club and whack away. And if it was a course we’d never played before? Well, make sure to pack plenty of balatas.

If you pine for those old days, then you no doubt still scribble directions on the back of an envelope.

“People just didn’t know what GPS was 20 years ago, they didn’t know what we were talking about,” says Calabrase of SkyCaddie’s early days. “’Whaddya mean you’re communicating with satellites?’ It was a steep learning curve with consumers, retails stores, and pro shops.”

Today GPS is ubiquitous, but are all GPS devices created equal? Well, as with anything, it all depends on the quality and quantity of data.

Measure Twice, Whack Once

Anyone who works with tools – be it a surgeon or a plumber – will tell you the most important tool in their toolkit is their measuring device. It’s the same for golfers: how far and where to are steps 1A and 1B for each golf shot. Every GPS device works basically the same way: it communicates with a network of satellites and overlays your position onto the most recent maps in its collection. What separates them, however, is the relative accuracy of the ground data.

“We actually send mappers out with survey-grade equipment,” says Calabrase. “We put down what we call ‘Smart Markers’ – basically electronic marks – out on the course, so we’re not guessing. Nobody else is doing that. Other companies use satellite images, so if there are any changes to a course – a bunker moved, a tree cut down, or a green reconfigured – they have to wait until there’s a new satellite map published to get any data on it.

SkyCaddie has been mapping and re-mapping courses for 20 years now and will re-map a course whenever there are any significant changes. The company has relationships with superintendents, golf pros, and owners who will contact SkyCaddie with anything from trap redesigns and tree removal to new greens or tee boxes. A basic re-map will take the better part of a day, and processing all that information into a computer and making it usable can take several more.

Calabrase says hardware improvements in SkyCaddie’s new SX500 handheld unit allows the company to package and deliver all that information to golfers, even non-Techno Geeks, in a digestible, functional way.

There are several fair questions to ask. First, isn’t a cheap – or even free – app going to be good enough? Second, do I really need that level of detail? And third, and most obviously, can’t I just take my eyes off the damn screen and look up? The answers to those questions are as personal as boxers vs. briefs.

What level of information do you want? How often you play new or unfamiliar courses? And what level of technology are you’re comfortable using?

MyGolfSpy’s testers were most impressed by the level of visual detail provided by the SX500. You get a 5-inch, full-color screen (about the size of an iPhone XR) with a graphic rendition of the hole you’re playing and distances to different landing spots, depending on how far you hit the ball. There’s also an ideal landing spot that’s been designated by the course mappers who, as mentioned earlier, have actually walked the course with a George Jetson-looking backpack to set electronic markers.

“The mapper’s getting what the golfer actually sees,” says Calabrase. “He’s right there on the ground. He’s not looking at an aerial image, so whether you’re playing a hole that goes uphill or slopes downhill, our mappers are able to walk out there and map those points and determine your fairway target – where an ideal tee shot should land. They go out there in the middle of the fairway, find the safest spot and map that location.”

You can access as much – or as little – information as you want. Different icons on the touchscreen will provide you with layup and carry distances to bunkers, water, or other hazards, as well as a bird’s eye view of the green showing ridges, contours, and tiers – something unique to the SX500. Our testers valued that level of detail, rating the SX500 tops for display, functionality, and accuracy.

“We’ve always had that detail, but we really didn’t have the platform to show it,” says Calabrase. “On a watch, you have to scroll to find the info you want. On a smaller handheld, you don’t have full imagery.”

 

There’s certainly no shortage of products to give you front-center-back distances, and if you’re just trying to hit the green, that may be good enough. And if you’re worried about paralysis by analysis, or don’t think you’re good enough to use all that information, overload is a justifiable concern.

“But it really doesn’t matter what level golfer you are, if you can take four or five strokes off, that’s 95 instead of 100,” says Calabrase. “If you can get that information easily, you’re going to play better. Our hardware technology has caught up with our back-end technology, so golfers can get that information a lot easier than before.”

IntelliGreen

We mentioned earlier the SX500 can show you the contours on a green; a patented feature SkyCaddie calls IntelliGreen.

“Our mappers go out and walk the perimeter of the green, so I have this huge image of what the green looks like and everything that’s around it,” says Calabrase. “And that image will rotate depending on where I’m standing. If I’m on the right side of the fairway or in the left rough, the green will rotate, so I’ll get a look at it from my angle.”

The bigger screen on the SX500 also lets SkyCaddie show you major green contours, false fronts, mounds, and undulations on many of the courses it has mapped.

“When you look at the image, you’ll find these contours. If the pin is on the third tier today, you can move the cursor to where that tier is and know it’s 141 to get up on that tier, so you might pull a 9-iron instead of a wedge. Since the image on the screen is two to three times larger than it was on our earlier products, you can slide the cursor to either where the pin is, or to where you might want to hit into the green.”

The acid test for any piece of golf tech is whether some sort of engineering degree is needed to actually use it. Again, our testers found the SX500 so intuitive you don’t even need to look at the manual. Personal experience shows while it’s not quite that simple, you can use it right out of the box without going through hell. It comes with over 35,000 courses already loaded, so you don’t have to connect to your computer and download anything. And when you’re ready to play golf, you hit the “Play Golf” button and, uh, play golf.

“It finds the course for you, and it goes to the first hole,” says Calabrase. “You don’t have to do any course searches on the device, hit different buttons, or figure out if you’re in the right menu setting. People are used to touch screens now, sliding cursors around, double-tapping, pinch, and zoon – new technology has really helped the customer experience. You turn it on and play golf. It’s pretty self-explanatory.

If you’re an ARCCOS or ShotScope fan, the SX500’s stat-tracking function won’t thrill you. It requires a bit of work on your part, such as telling the unit what club you’re hitting and then pushing a button to set the point where you’re hitting from – a manual process that needs repeating with each shot. You can sync the round and all your stats to your SkyCaddie 360 account very easily via WIFI – there’s neither Bluetooth nor a need to connect via USB to a computer.

One other useful feature is the ability to scout out a course before you play it. You can view any course while sitting on your couch watching TV and get an idea of what you’ll be facing when you actually get out there, with all the same functionality as you’d experience during a live round. Say, for instance, you’re in a member-guest at a course you’ve never played before, or maybe you finally scored a bucket-list round at Torrey Pines, Firestone, or Congressional. This function allows you to – in essence – walk the course (albeit virtually) to prepare for the round and map out a strategy.

If that’s your thing.

Speaking of Subscriptions

Depending on your perspective, the $399 price tag on the SX500 is either reasonable (when compared to a full-featured laser rangefinder or the Garmin Approach G80 handheld: both well over $500), or crazy expensive when compared to a ShotScope unit at $189. And there’s another factor to consider: a required annual SkyCaddie subscription to make the unit operational.

“We include the first year as part of the purchase, but after that, there are a couple of different plans,” says Calabrase. “If you just play in one state and don’t really travel, it’s $29.99 per year. If you just play in the U.S., it’s $49.99, or for $60, you get everything.”

Before this gets too far down the rabbit hole, Calabrase points out the subscription fee isn’t a cash grab; it’s actually used to pay for sending out their people to map – and in some cases re-map – golf courses so the unit will be up to date. SkyCaddie will map or re-map a couple of thousand courses a year, and, as mentioned earlier, the process is both labor-intensive and time-consuming.

“Traveling is expensive, hotels are expensive, paying people to spend all day at a golf course to walk around with a high-tech backpack is expensive,” he says. “Once a golf course does a renovation, moves traps, rebuilds greens or even flips nines, whatever product you’ve been using is now useless because you have the old satellite image and the old data. What you’re paying for is having us go out there and keep everything updated.”

While paying $400 for a GPS device, and then spending another $30 to $60 to use it after the first year may be a tough ask, SkyCaddie does try to make it go down a bit easier to take by offering three-year discounted packages. For example, you can get a three-year U.S. package for $120, which, if you consider the first year free, amounts to $30 a year for the first four years. You get other perks, as well, including a free subscription to Golf Magazine (if you don’t have one already), and access to SkyGolf 360 Cloud and the SkyGolf Mobile App. Some plans include three-dozen Bridgestone golf balls, as well as access to something called Boxgroove – a service that allows you to book tee times at over 1,000 private clubs in the U.S. and Canada.

Parting Thoughts

Now that you have a bit better idea of the technology and feature set behind our top-rated handheld GPS unit for 2019, and why our testers loved it, we have a few questions for you.

First off: are you a handheld guy/gal, a watch wearer, a laser pointer, or a combination user?

And second, does this level of information – which is pretty much the same level of detail you’d find in a Tour caddie’s notebook – help or hinder your golf game?

Let’s hear it GolfSpies, what do you say?

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      Alf.S

      4 years ago

      I’ve had 5 Skycaddies over the last 20 years starting with the 2.5, Breeze, SGX, Touch and now the SGX500. I have had other kit a Bushnell Neo Ion watch, Garmin Approach G3, Shot Scope v2, Arccos and a Nikon Coolshot 20. In terms of GPS I always use Skycaddie as my golden source. But I will not pay more than the standard subscription so it doesn’t come with me on holiday. I also have found the Intelligreen to be pretty worthless. In using Skcaddie over the yeasrs I have only recently come across 1 course that is mapped for Intelligreen. Even though I play throughout UK, Europe and the US. Even a premier course like Castle Stuart that I played 2 weeks ago didn’t have it.

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      Robert Wilks

      4 years ago

      In order, I’ve owned a Skycaddie SG1, Callaway uPro, Garmin Approach G-3, and Bushnell Neo Ghost.

      Lost the Skycaddie immediately after renewing my annual subscription. (Ouch!)

      I liked the Callaway, until they suddenly decided to quit supporting it. (Ouch!)

      The Garmin was bulky, with a too-small screen.

      The Bushnell is just right — right price, right data, right size. Also, when you find a hole is not quite in the right GPS location, Bushnell will check it out and correct it in a few days.

      Before the Bushnell, I tried several laser rangefinders: Suaoki PF3, CaddyView V2+Slope, Lofthouse ProScope 400X. I need reliable readings out to 370 yards (370 minus a 250 yard drive gives 120 yard layup which is my full wedge). With all of them, it was difficult to pickup pins at 200 yards and beyond (without retroreflectors and in pin-seeker mode). Every one of them cost me at least two strokes per round due to bad readings. That’s why I went back to a GPS.

      I want my next GPS to be like the Bushnell Neo Ghost, but with four features added: 1. Distance to center-of-fairway at dogleg corners, 2. A way to secure it on a retractable lanyard, 3. A clock that can be read without exiting golf mode, and 4. Pin locations at golf practice ranges.

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      SG

      4 years ago

      I like my Bushnell watch. I can keep it on me without it being obtrusive, so no embarrassing walks backward to ask the group behind us if they found a rangefinder left behind. I also don’t need to focus on something in order to get those yardages. The watch gives me front, middle and back (which is all I need) for the green, tells me how far to reach and clear a hazard, and I have no problem seeing the screen, which is my issue with a handheld or phone app. I have tried a phone app, but on sunny days, it is impossible to see it.

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      BlueSteel

      4 years ago

      This looks like a nice unit but I’d never buy it. I bought a brand new SG5 back in the day. It worked good but it was a pain at the same time. It only held in memory about 20 courses or so as I recall. If you went somewhere new or wanted to add a different course from your favorites you had to hook it up to your computer via cable, go to the website and download the new course. And you couldn’t just add the one and be on your way…oh no! It would re-download all of the courses you had loaded on there. I know why, because of updates but sometimes you don’t feel like waiting. Especially if your doing it in the morning and still trying to make your tee time. Most of the time my password wouldn’t work or I had to download the latest version of firmware on my computer. It just became drudgery. I never was a fan of the subscription but the straw that broke the camels back was the time I got the opportunity to play the Tennessee Trail @ Bear Trace. I paid the extra money to get the out of state upgrade to my subscription but when I got up there my SG5 wouldn’t load the courses. All my buddies had different handhelds with the 30,000 preloaded courses and they all worked. All I had was an expensive paper weight. When I got home I put it away and haven’t looked at it since. Now I use the free VPAR app on my iphone and it’s awesome.

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      Ken S

      4 years ago

      Great technology out there in many formats. As mentioned, preference is very subjective. Many features are nice, data captured is important for those that like to know all of their stats but some of these things also slow the game down. Maybe next trends are all inclusive smart systems that track club hit, distances, missed fairways/greens and strokes with no manual input.
      As a side note, survey grade GPS is not being used to map the courses. This is what is called GIS or mapping grade. Accurate enough for mapping golf course features but the equipment and methods of collecting the data won’t yield survey grade results. .

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      retired04

      4 years ago

      Ancient Bushnell rangefinder-first one died after years of use, simply bought an identical used one. Play one course 99% of the time.
      Almost passed out at the $400 plus $30 per year-prefer to spend it on new equipment which I do on a regular basis. Tell me the yardage to the pin-I will calculate the rest if necessary.

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      Craig Goodwin

      4 years ago

      Knowing the carry distance over a bunker guarded pin is great, but I’ve been using a Bushnell V2 for years and can still keep up with my buddies GPS guided round.

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      JasonA

      4 years ago

      Laser only. The feedback loop of exact yardage – strike – pitch mark has meant that my yardage control can improve without dedicated range time. A real bonus as with 2 young kids don’t have much spare time.

      Few cases when visiting course with blind shots that would have liked a GPS.

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      David

      4 years ago

      Correct me if I’m wrong but I’m pretty sure the courses I play near Paris/France do not get the super tech on site measurements/photography detailed in the article.
      As a 30 handicaper (level 25) a range finder and a watch showing distance to entry/exit of green and hazards is more than enough for the courses I have around.

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      KIAWE

      4 years ago

      I have been using a laser for years then got gifted a s20 garmin watch. Now I use both when playing for fun or practice. Would love to use a handheld but wont be able to use it for tournament play. Until then the laser stays in the bag.

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      Tim Gath

      4 years ago

      Used old Sky Caddie for years until I tried a laser. Can shoot distance to carry and pin in seconds. That’s all I need. Live my Leuopold.

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      P.J. Evans

      4 years ago

      I bought a SkyCaddie SG2 in 2004 or so…payed a high cost and the subscription costs because it was the best and most accurate GPS available at the time. Those days are gone – there are so many excellent GPS’s available now, I just WON’T pay for a subscription service any more.
      My Garmin GPS watch, coupled with my RangeFinder gives me all the numbers that a 10-12 handicapper can use. My game, despite what I’d like to believe, can’t discern the difference between 2-3 yards on approach shots. My watch tells me distances to and over hazards, more than good enough for me. The subscription concept has run it’s course, though some will pay – my bet is the majority will not. I’m confident SkyCaddie is losing market share and I’d have to say this subscription strategy is specifically a factor.

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      Thomas Brokl

      4 years ago

      I bought a SkyCaddie SG4 back in 2006 and enjoyed it for years, but was always disappointed by the annual fee.
      In 2015, I bought a SkyCaddie Linx watch and I played 2-3 rounds with both as a comparison before putting my SG4 into storage. The key for me is the watch is with me everywhere., where the handheld SG4 was a nuisance to carry and remember.

      p.s. place my vote for Mary Ann

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      John Barba

      4 years ago

      Me as well ;-)

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      Galen Shields

      4 years ago

      Using 3rd generation SkyCaddie. Probably none are perfect, but the new SX500 is much better than the touch. Love and hate the size, but color screen helps a lot especially since I leave my glasses home.. it’s as accurate as I need it and love distances to problem areas being shown. I also use it to track distances of shots hit when breaking in new clubs. The laser may show to less than a foot, but I’m not so good to be with hat accurate.

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      Brian Pickton

      4 years ago

      I’m a handheld guy; I don’t even wear a watch. I also have a laser but it only comes out on the range where I use it for dialing in club distance. I have been pondering an upgrade to my now old Garmin G30, and Arccos has my attention although I have noted certain shortcomings that have been mentioned here on MGS. I also am ambivalent about subscription fees.

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      kevin Oleson

      4 years ago

      Handheld gps

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      Scotez

      4 years ago

      I prefer the laser. It’s less distracting and I’m most often concerned with the distance to the pin. I use a Leupold..

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      JonD

      4 years ago

      Got the Sky Caddie when it first came out. Had it for 5 years, paid the subscription. Then after awhile started comparing my skycaddie results with other non subscription devices on course with playing partners. Data was the same, after a year and several comparisons. I felt that the skycaddie subscription made me feel like a chump.

      So now I have a Bushnell Watch for $99, and a Bushnell range finder V4, best of both worlds and tons cheaper than the subscription Sky Caddie

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      tony@CIC

      4 years ago

      I use a combination of an iPhone app (iGolf) and my laser (NX7 Pro). Between the 2 of these I don’t see a need for a dedicated GPS device.

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      Helen Castonguay

      4 years ago

      I am still using the original Sky Caddie with its grey and black screen! Darn thing won’t stop working. Still love it but maybe it’s time to upgrade. I don’t mind paying the annual fee because I appreciate SkyCaddie’s on the ground philosophy and the bonuses help!

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      John Dunne

      4 years ago

      I’ve been using the same laser for over ten years and have, over the past three months been using a watch in combination with the laser. The main problem I have with the watch is seeing the numbers (without my reading glasses, which I tend to forget).

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      alii1959

      4 years ago

      Two things.

      First, I use a couple of different apps on my Apple Watch, depending on the course played. It gives me the yardages to the greens front, middle, back and usually that is enough. If I need more, iphone!

      I have a friend that has a rangefinder and my watch gps was within a yard or so of the distances he was getting on a number of different courses we played. The only issue I see is that there are times that the gps hangs, is delayed, or just doesn’t update fast enough. Then a range finder might be better.

      Second. Has the technology improved average scores? I see people checking yardages with rangefinders that I know aren’t getting to their targets at all. This just delays their duffing. Kinda like plumb bobbing for a 30ft down hiller when you have 4 putted every green…. I am not seeing an improvement in their scores. For the lower handicapper I can see how it helps. However, until you get down to the low single digits I am not sure that we are good enough ball strikers to be able to be that precise. Sure, the information is great, but does it really help?

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      Michael H

      4 years ago

      I have the SkyCaddie SGX and really like it. Play different courses in different states so get the US subscription. Like the 10 yd increments on greens. Am looking to upgrade to 500 so can see hole layout easier.

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      Will

      4 years ago

      It doesn’t matter that they have Jetson’s little boy Elroy walking every course (???), paying 5 bills & then being forced to pay them yearly – sounds like a nightmare… Garmin hanheld G8 work fine & w/o yearly fees too; probably any Garmin will do the job…

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      HDTVMAN

      4 years ago

      I use the Garmin S20 watch and Nikon Coolshot 40i. I’ve tried the handheld models, but prefer the watch & laser.

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      pineneedlespro

      4 years ago

      I have used the Garmin (hand held-gps) Approach G6 for the last 5 years. It keeps my score (and 3 others), tract putts, GIR, fairways, layups, and can move the pin on the green. Yes it does help me understand my game and what to work on the most.

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      Paul H Van Vleet

      4 years ago

      I used a combination of SX500 and Nikon Coolshot Pro Stabilzed. I played a lot of diferent course and both are useful. Front, middle and back of green. Elevation differential . Over the years, I have over 970 rounds in my Sky Golf 360 cloud. So you see I’ve been a customer almost from the begining.

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      Bill G.

      4 years ago

      Laser all the way, it tells me all I need to know. I tend to play the same course most of the time since I am a member there. I use the Bushnell with slope, and do not play tournaments anymore. The only draw back is if it is a little foggy, the laser will penitrate the fog.. Had one of the GPS early models from Callaway, worked well, but was limited in the info it gave.

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      Brian Montgomery

      4 years ago

      1) Bushnell Laser from 2012 only (I do tend to play the same course almost exclusively)

      2) It has helped my game a lot, though occasionally I wonder if I try to be too precise with the yardage and would be better off just hitting the club that needs to be hit hard versus trying to finesse something.

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      Paul G.

      4 years ago

      I have used skycaddie previously, excellent, but i find a laser sight far less distracting

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      Duffer E

      4 years ago

      I use the Swing U app on my phone for general distances. Once I get close enough to the pin, if I think I need it, I pull out the Nikon Coolshot 80 rangefinder. I’m certainly not good enough yet to need anything more than that.

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      Kevin C.

      4 years ago

      Markers guy! I’ve used the Sky Caddie in HI, 2 different trips and don’t like it. I build tech for a living and I’m just not fond of it on the course. Have a Bushnell v3 personally, but still rarely use it except for tournaments on unfamiliar courses. Seems like if I keep my head still, weight balanced and whack it enough times with the same club on the range then I don’t need a watch or oversized cell phone telling me much of anything. :-) Get enough of that at home.

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      Bill Thomas

      4 years ago

      I use the Bushnell laser/GPS unit – the older version from a couple of years back. The GPS gives me front, middle and back yardages (yes I know they don’t change when my drive is 40 yards left or right of center) so I know if the laser reading to the pin is correct. The only problem, which occurred only once, was a rainy/foggy kind of day when the laser would not work, but the GPS did work. Fast, easy, and no subscription.

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      Gisle Solhaug

      4 years ago

      Yeah, there is a lot of high-tech gadgets out there. And some of it is great. But golfers still rely on Swingweight??? what about applying a little bit of physics to Matching of Golf Clubs? BioMatch, one swing for all your clubs gives much better dispersion. Effortless improvement.

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      dude

      4 years ago

      Dude, what?

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      JasonA

      4 years ago

      hmm. I think that may be a spammer.
      We’re meant to look into the golf snakeoil that GISLE SOLHAUG mentioned.

      JasonA

      4 years ago

      hmm. I think that may be a spammer.
      We’re meant to look into the golf snakeoil that GISLE SOLHAUG mentioned.

      Dave Clark

      4 years ago

      Bushnell V2 for 9 years. Best golf investment ever. If I need more info somewhere new I will get a yardage book.

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      Berniez40

      4 years ago

      I enjoyed reading the article, and was fascinated by the amount of info this little bugger churns out. With that in mind I started researching “Owners Reviews” and then reality reared its ugly head. This thing tells you everything you could possibly need to know, but it has a major design flaw. The charging port is obviously wonky at best according to some, while several have claimed, “Due to the faulty charging port, I am now the proud owner of a $400.00 Paperweight.”
      That is really sad when one factors in what an absolute revolution this thing actually could be. I had every intention of a possible future purchase until I read about its rather glaring Achilles Heel. Guess I’ll stick to my old First Generation (2AA Battery Loaded) Garmin for long distances, and my Precision Pro NX7 for everything within 150. yards. It really is a crying shame that they didn’t catch that in quality control or test runs of prototypes.

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      Joro

      4 years ago

      When I started Golfing we had nothing but our heads and that worked better than anything. Then came the markers and that started the Gps which to me is nothing but a waste of time and money. And I have tried em all. Today I wear a Golf Buddy watch, when I play a new course, sometimes. All I want is the distance part and could care less what it is to the lake, if i can’t figure that out I should not be playing the game. What is next a robot to hit the shot? That whole thing along with green books and such are stupid and if anything violates the intention of the game that stuff does, not long or connected putters. So there!!!

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      wbn

      4 years ago

      Bushnell hand held. No fees. Batteries are cheap. It’s been doing just fine for the last 6 years.

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      Dave DeGeorge

      4 years ago

      I used a Sky Caddie Product for a handful of years. The tech was impressive, but the Customer Service was terrible. I discontinued use, because they just wouldn’t help me. I now use a Shot Scope watch. I’m very pleased with the product and their customer service has been terrific. The first watch I purchased developed a problem. The company replaced the watch immediately for free.

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      Mike

      4 years ago

      Normal game with friends, I will use either a GPS or a laser.. I dont want anything on my wrist.. New course or tournament play, I take both. Gives me course map, layup distances and yardage to the pin – all quickly.

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      Wally Wombat

      4 years ago

      Use Garmin S20 watch ($120, factory refurbished unit)

      And GolfBuddy rangefinder ($150 after 20% Google Express discount)

      Anything over 200 yds I go with the S20, also use S20 to track score (but not putts or fairways as the push-button watch interface is a bit clumsy for that)

      Waiting for S20 to die (bought a refurb unit 4 years ago) before I get an Apple watch which I’d prefer for stat and score tracking

      Wearing watch doesn’t bug me while playing … only issue is having to exit course mode to check the actual time.

      GolfBuddy rangefinder is great for yardages to pin etc but unit I have doesn’t account for slope but I kinda like the mini-intrigue of not knowing. Took me 2 rounds to properly integrate rangefinder use into pre-shot routine. Using 2 hands for a reliable reading helps cut down rangefinding time down to 1-2 seconds. Otherwise I end up detecting features that are over the green. I also use it occasionally for measuring on-course features (like distance from tee to fairway bunker, or from tee shot to beer cart on par 5s), especially for courses (and beer carts) that I am less familiar with.

      FWIW, I’ve found that I still play a solo round in 120-135 minutes walking with Caddytec push cart, which has a storage compartment where I keep the GolfBuddy for ease of access. It’s not a time sync once you’re accustomed to it. Only pain in the butt is being the sole owner of a rangefinder in a group. I’ve had a few annoying rounds where everyone in the group goes into high maintenance mode requesting yardages for every dang shot. After awhile it feels like you’re giving yardages, replacing divots, tending pins, reading putts, washing clubs, etc. with no tips given. Aargh. In short get your own rangefinder!

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      Berniez40

      4 years ago

      All sounds very good, but there is a reported problem with the charging port. I actually started researching it intent on a possible purchase, but my budget has no room for $400.00 Paperweights which is what many people have written about this thing. If they do fix this in the future, it would be a great updte article as this item has extreme amounts of potential save for that one glaring Achilles Heel.

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      cksurfdude

      4 years ago

      TomTom Golfer watch .. easy, convenient, no fuss, accurate. Plus – for new courses – a Garmin G8 handheld shows me everything I need to know (at this point in my golfing career).

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      Deacon

      4 years ago

      I own and continue to use the original Sky Caddie but will not renew my subscription when my current one expires. I consider the SX500 too bulky for my tastes and I dislike having to pay a yearly fee. I prefer a hand held and have a hitting cage in my basement. I ended up buying the new Garmin because I wanted the additional launch monitoring data this unit provides. To me the Garmin is inexpensive at $500 because of its dual usage.

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      McG

      4 years ago

      I used SkyCaddie for many years (three different models). I loved the level of detail in the graphics… especially when playing a new course. I didn’t love the subscription cost especially when no other company was charging for a subscription. I switched to a Bushnell laser and haven’t looked back.

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      Steve

      4 years ago

      I use the Garmin watch on my local courses I’m familiar with and use the handlheld GPS for new courses I have not played.

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      D Jacobson

      4 years ago

      I prefer the handheld. I do not like to wear a watch when golfing and when I have been with people using the laser it just didn’t look like it was something that I wanted to do.

      I really like my Garmin Approach G8. It is fast, accurate and the map is easy to read in sunny days. I almost purchased the SX500 but the annual fee stopped me.

      This article shows to me why they charge the annual fee and it makes sense now.

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      SV677

      4 years ago

      I use a Bushnell Ghost now and a NEO+ previously. Both give front, back and middle yardages, distances to bunkers, the distance to a water hazard and the distance to clear.. What more do you need? Also, it only costs about $100. I can buy several for the price of a Sky Caddie. The other nice thing is even though the unit is small, the yardages listed are large enough that I can see them without having to put my reading glasses on. I can’t say the same for a friend’s Sky Caddie or my son’s Golf Buddy.

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      Wally

      4 years ago

      It would be ideal if you could do a test with the 5 leading handheld GPS systems and really find out dollar for dollar which unit is the best. I’m sure that there are some differences but a yard or two either really doesn’t make that much difference unless we all are playing Thursday through Sunday.

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      Ken

      4 years ago

      THIS ^^

      Have not seen a Head-to-Head on-course comparison of GPS units/apps. Take SkyCaddie, Arccos, The Grint, 18Birdies, Garmin, ShotScope for example and use the GPS features (and same phone) on the course.

      Compare the features that are the same – not the differences.. Mostly, am I getting the same distances? Is all or some of the information useful to improve course management and club selection? A laser rangefinder is probably going to be most accurate, however it can’t see through trees if you’re trying to go over them.. Many questions to ask that we’d like to see answers for. Where’s the best ROI on initial and total cost. Would love to see something like this done with good controls.

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      TonyG

      4 years ago

      Bushnell V4 at home. Garmin G30 if playing a strange golf course. I always had a problem with depth and the Lasers have been a big stroke saver. I love challenging my buddies that still think they can tell distance just by looking at the Pin (fewer every day). They are often 10-30 yards off, even when the course has 150 posts and sprinkler markers, they will be 10-15 yards off.

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      Heather D

      4 years ago

      I’ve been a SkyCaddie member for years., and currently use the SGX as well as the Game Tracker device with my Smart Phone. I wish they would make the handhelds receptive to the Game Trackers. I had looked at the 500 when it first came out, but was concerned about the size. Glad they put out the 400. I also use laser on the course for pin measurements.

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      Art

      4 years ago

      Long time Skycaddie user, and I’ve been disappointed for much of that time–buggy platform, long-promised club tracking on the SG platform that never occurred, “did-you-restart-the-device”-level customer support, course hazards frequently missing, antiquated statistical suite. No longer using, won’t renew subscription. I do miss the ease of score keeping on the SG.

      Current setup–Arccos, for club tracking, stat tracking (which needs improvement), scorecard, and the occasional hole overview. (If Shotscope didn’t require wearing a watch, I’d choose that). Golfbuddy X for (dynamic) front/back of green distances, Caddytec laser to shoot the pin and green-side features.

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      Chris

      4 years ago

      I use an s20 watch and supplement it with the laser, slope adjusted (Precision Pro NX7), if I need to pinpoint a flag.

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      Harza

      4 years ago

      Bushnell laser only

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      PaulR

      4 years ago

      I still use my sg2.5 which gives me all the numbers I need. Bushnell laser for final number to the pin. I don’t mind the fee (3 year sub), the concern I have with Shot Scope (which I would get if I didn’t have to wear the watch) and others is that they don’t charge. They all have to pay for data storage as a minimum, even if it’s with AWS or similar. Nothing is free, if they don’t get a fee for this the more chance they go out of business taking my stats with it. As earlier post said though it would be good if Skycaddie would partner with someone like shot scope, the stats available on sky golf are just too basic these days and a real let down of the system. Just bought an iMac and couldn’t get the download for skycaddie express. Support guy had to webex in and download drivers from silicon labs. The whole software side seems to need an overhaul. I suspect that shot scope maybe coming out with a non watch wearing alternative soon…fingers crossed…as it has dropped down to £119 recently which suggests new model on the way. Once available I’ll drop the skycaddie unless I see a big software improvement.

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      ParHunter

      4 years ago

      ” the fact you can buy a device that communicates – legally – with a freaking satellite is pretty mind-blowing. And get this: the freaking satellite can communicate back and tell you exactly where you are on the planet”

      That is not quite right. The GPS device does not communicate with any satellites. It only received data from the satellite. This is a one way street!

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      dan

      4 years ago

      Subscription? Deal breaker for me.

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      Mark

      4 years ago

      I am a laser buy, but do like to have a gps when at new courses. Sky caddie has come a long way. As a retailer that dealt with terrible customer service during the SG3/SG4 fiasco days, when we had 50% return rate and couldnt get through to anyone, I really soured on them for a while. The year subscription was a nightmare as we helped people, especially non tech people sign up and they would lose their password and it would take forever to get in touch with sky caddy. A lot of people pre-smart phone days didn’t have email so it was really awful. I am glad to see it is much more simplified and they seem to have there stuff together now. still a tough sell of a yearly subscription when 90% of the golfers who come through my doors don’t really care about anything but front middle back yardages. We went from selling 50-75 sky caddies a year to basically none this last year, and my sales guys tell me it is almost always because of the subscription. I get it, but the avg. hack doesn’t care.

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      HarveyDiamond

      4 years ago

      I use a Laser plus an app on a smartphone. Is it helpful? Absolutely, I don’t care about a lot of stats, just yardage and let me take the shot.

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      Joe Duffer

      4 years ago

      I’m in the same camp, Harvey…
      What a smart phone app did you decide on?
      Did you research and compare? Thx

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      Graham Riley

      4 years ago

      I think if you are a regular player and travel quite a bit and play lots of different courses then this would be a huge help. I think for any golfer, being in two minds as to your yardage to the pin or side of the green can be the worst part of playing a round although now knowing the exact distances and hazzards means if you foul up a round……… no excuses. I would like to have one but being in a country where our exchange rate is ridiculous (R14 to $1) puts me out of the market………. sigh!!!

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      Big Shoot

      4 years ago

      I used both shotscopeV2(know where your misses are) and laser with slope. I love shooting the flag to give me, in my opinion, the most accurate yardage. A yardage book does the same thing as SX500 as a visual and sometimes too much information is bad, hence slow play

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      Lewis T

      4 years ago

      I use both watch and laser (at 150 yards or so…). I was looking at a hand held, mainly to get course layout, distances to hazards, etc. This unit was on my short list but was a bit thrown off at the subscription fee; your explanation of why the fee is making me rethink this. Thanks…

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      stanb

      4 years ago

      I use a golfbuddy watch , my real golf buddy uses a scope , the watch and the scope are close enough where I would not change clubs . I have learned to rely on my watch and would be lost without it. hit more greens with this tool and have used the watch for 7 yds.

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      Jim Trefil

      4 years ago

      I use a Laser finder but when I get lazy I have a watch that I use. I had one of the original Sky Caddie but changed to a laser range finder, dumb move. I’d like to have a Sky Caddie again. So much easier. My shaky hands can be a problem and finding the hazards is a problem too.

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      Bob

      4 years ago

      I’ve been using Skycaddies for years. I have upgraded a couple of times and am now using the “Touch”. It definitely speeds up our (wife and I) play without having to look for markers; and you learn how far you can actually hit a particular iron (with time). You can drive up to your ball, see the distance, and grab your club. You don’t have to grab the laser, view, aim, and push the button to get your distance (and then return your laser to the cart). I’ve played with people who use a laser.

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      B81smith

      4 years ago

      Nothing like a range finder that’s not only expensive but you also have to keep putting money into it to work. I have the Garmin g3 and have had it for about 10 years. Spent about 100 and love it. Thinking of getting the g8 but dang that’s a ton of money.

      Btw I thought this was a ranking but instead a sales pitch for sky caddie

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      John Barba

      4 years ago

      GPS ranking was done in the Buyer’s Guide – there’s a link in the article in case you missed it. This piece is intended to be a deeper dive into the technology and examine why our testers liked this unit as much as they did. As always, we try to examine the pros and cons of a product and its category – as mentioned in the article, this type of product isn’t for everyone but if you like and use the level of detail provided, our testers found it to be an intriguing option.

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      Pat

      4 years ago

      I remember back in the old days where you had to find the markers and pace everything off. I just started to use a Laser Ranger finder and find that is can be helpful. However, I still seem to revert back to find the markers and do the calculations from a speed of play perspective.

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      Emery

      4 years ago

      I agree and testing one’s ability to effectively deduce yardage by sight and markers is a great skill to exercise!

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      N Bryan

      4 years ago

      I use two methods of measuring golf shots. I use a WoSports laser range finder and I have the Arccos Golf sensors and app. The range finder was $100 on amazon and works pretty well and has a lot of the same features the more expensive range finders have ie slope and vibrates when it picks up the pin. However, it does have some limitations, sometimes picking up a flag that’s 200+ yards can be a little tough to pick up but it usually does just takes a little longer and a steady hand. But flags beyond 225 yards can be difficult and sometimes impossible. This doesn’t bother me too much because for shots of 225+ yards I’m good with a “font-middle-back” distance that the Arccos app gives me. .

      The Arccos App/Sensors work pretty well, I mostly use it for tracking post shot data ie “how far do I hit the damn thing???” It’s been a pretty good tool for confirming or denying how far I actually hit certain clubs. It too has limitations, I don’t think it can “normalize” shots to give you a true distance very well if at all. I know it’s taking into account some wind and elevation data but I think it’s taking a “best guess” approach especially with wind. Even though it is taking in that data I don’t think it’s reflecting that in my club distances. For instance I know I hit my 7 iron around 165 yards. However, I’ve hit some 195 yard shots with it but that’s because I was hitting a layup shot onto a hard dry fairway and some slope so I got an extra 20+ yards of extra roll out. But the Arccos records it as a 195 yard 7 iron. Also it doesn’t differentiate too well from full shots, punch shots, chip shots, etc….. After you’ve hit a bunch of shots it creates a standard deviation and basically anything outside of that SD (long or short) gets removed until you hit enough shots to move the SD. Many golfers say they don’t like the Arccos because it’s “too honest”, frankly I don’t think it’s honest enough.

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      Susan Eno

      4 years ago

      I use an Apple Watch. I mostly play the same course and really only care about approximate distance. Everything else is a little too much information for me to find it enjoyable. I do like getting my round emailed to me after with putts, missed fairways etc from my Watch app. However I keep trying different apps some work fine for a few months then all of a sudden stop finding distances. I did use an original Garmin until it wore out and figured for the same price an Apple Watch is more useful for more than just golf gps. I play about 100 times a year. I’v tried lasers but holding up to my glasses didn’t seem to work very conveniently.

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      Joe Duffer

      4 years ago

      Susan, what Apple Watch app did you finally decide on? Thx

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      Willie T

      4 years ago

      I have a handheld laser for shooting the distances, have been seriously considering a GPS of some sort. A good friend has one that he has mounted in his golf cart, similar to what we have on the carts of the better courses we play. I am thinking a watch GPS may work, if the numbers are large enough to not have to use reading glasses to see….that’s just me. If I had the SkyCaddie, would also keep a suction mount for use in the carts when playing non-GPS provided courses.

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      Michael MacLeod

      4 years ago

      I have been using an older sky caddie (SG2) for 6 years now and will be up grading to the 500. I like their technology and the subscription fee doesn’t bother me because as they say, you get what you pay for.

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      SB

      4 years ago

      I prefer the hand held option for lay up distances and for when I am in the woods. I like front middle and back to try to manage my misses better than just a distance to the pin.

      I had a sky caddie as did everyone in my group, but we would stand on the tee box and put 4 sky caddies next to each other and get 4 different yardages.

      I bought a garmin that I have had forever, that is now starting to fall apart and I need to replace.

      Does the SX500 fit in a cupholder? I normally keep it there and if it does not fit then the SX400 might be a better option for me.

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      John Barba

      4 years ago

      It’s about the size of an iPhone XR – have found it fits in larger upholders, but not smaller ones. They do have a mount you can buy that fits into the ball holder grooves that are in some carts. It works okay – a little tough to get the elastic around the unit, but it’s not horrible.

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      Mark M

      4 years ago

      I use a combination of GPS on my phone, mostly for front,back & middle numbers, and a laser.
      The laser is useful if I can’t tell where the pin is by sight and for shots inside of 100 yards when I need to be more precise.

      That level of info would be very useful for me if I played a lot on courses I was unfamiliar with but for the most part I play courses I know and don’t really need all that.

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      Emery

      4 years ago

      Guess I’m a bit of a throwback…I do rarely use a Leupold Range finder if the markers seem off or I am going to knock the corner off a dogleg or playing a new course, etc. I find electronics slow down my golf game and distract me if I want to use ALL the available features. I feel the same mountain bikeing, I’ve got all the Garmin GPS stuff and video and music going but sometimes, I find going ANALOG clears my mind and I get back to the enjoyment of being outdoors.

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      Michael Howard

      4 years ago

      I had the aforementioned SkyCaddie and sent it back for a refund. First it had several bugs in it that technical support could not fix but the most irritating component of it was the dimly lit screen. You could not see it in any kind of sunshine no matter how much you cranked up the brightness.

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      Regis

      4 years ago

      Been a skycaddie subscriber since they came on the scene. Generally a great product BUT a couple of years ago I upgraded to the Touch. Awful product. Touch screen is bad. (And yes I’ve recalibrated it several times) .They even replaced my original purchase. But the electronic response makes me feel like I’m playing with a 30:year old Atari.. So I use my Garmin watch most of the time.. When I’m playing a tricky layout, I’ll bring out the Touch and pray my frustration doesn’t reach a point I end up throwing it in a pond

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      Miles Dean

      4 years ago

      Love my laser but I just recieved a shotscope as a gift. Only used it 5 times so far but love the feedback and information on my game. I’ve go to get it in my head to just play without thinking I’ve got to make the perfect shot everytime.

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      Dave

      4 years ago

      I used to use a Skycaddie (SG5) years ago but the usability of the apps on my phone just became to easy and cost effective. Right now I use the “Swing U” app which used to be called “SwingXSwing”. Works great. My only complaint is that sometimes it’s a bit slow to update my current location.

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      Carl Carless

      4 years ago

      I use the SX500 and I think that it was well worth the cost for the unit and subscription. Excellent graphics, easy to use and accurate.

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      Dave R

      4 years ago

      I’m a combo user – Garmin s20 GPS watch with club tracking and a Leupold Gx-5i3 Lasewr Rangefinder with slope..

      The watch gives me long range distances – standing on tee box or second shot on a par 5. On the ninth hole par 5 at my club, there’s a stream short of green. The watch helps me know what what to hi on the lay-up of what’s needed to carry. The laser isn’t great for lay-ups on flat holes. Its also a good validation of laser range – I’ve had laser miss flag and ping off something in the background. There’s also some blind holes on my course – I don’t want to have to walk up to the crest of the hill to shoot the flag (for pace of play.)

      The laser gives me better yardages on big greens – front-middle-back isn’t very granular when greens are as much as 40-50 yards deep.

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      Tim

      4 years ago

      My friends and I use another Costco sold winner…..the CaddyTek Golf Laser Rangefinder for $129. You can find it even cheaper during holiday sales. It has all the features of the big boys w/ slope technology at a fraction of the price. Highly recommended! Price per feature, dollar for dollar it is the best deal out there, hands down.

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      Greg Johnson

      4 years ago

      I’m with you, Tim. My shots to the green have been much closer to the hole since I started using the Caddy Tek Laser from Costco. I have been using Golfshot on iPhone since 2011 and find it helpful for GPS, scorekeeping and statistical analysis. I just added Arccos Caddie for additional insight into my game.

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      Dave Bolt

      4 years ago

      Combination – Laser + GPS app on phone

      Does it help? – Yes

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      Joe Duffer

      4 years ago

      Joe, what smartphone GPS app did you finally decide on? Thx

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      Adam Burton

      4 years ago

      I have been a skycaddie user for years, and love the tech. I’ll eventually upgrade to the 400 or 500.

      I do also use laser for closer approaches, and confirmation of pin location.

      It’s a game changer for when playing a new course. It really assists with course management and makes you a smarter golfer.

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      Vinny

      4 years ago

      I have been using the skycaddie system for at least 15 years. My present skycaddie is the sxw, which is 6years old and still works..
      I have found that by using this system i play faster and smarter.. Highly recommended.

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      Bud

      4 years ago

      How readable is this display screen on a bright sunshiny day and you are wearing “sun glasses”?

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      Chris Nickel

      4 years ago

      Stay tuned for member testing. That said, the visual display and UI both received very positive reviews in our Most Wanted testing this year.

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      John Barba

      4 years ago

      My own experience is that it’s very readable – used it both on sunny and partly sunny days, with and without sunglasses – and have had no problems. The large screen helps, but the display is bright and crisp. A couple of the above photographs were taken on partly sunny days, if that helps.

      J Marrs

      4 years ago

      I prefer the watch GPS. My reasoning is that all the other devises slow play down.

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      Artie

      4 years ago

      Really? You carry your phone, tees, balls, a range finder and it takes you 5 minutes to decide which club to hit because you want wind direction as well?? I look at my wrist and know how far it is to the green. BTW my hands shake too much for a range finder. I am not the only one. I watch people staring thru the machine looking for Devine intervention. It is a game and want to finish before sun down, please move it along, you not playing the US Open!

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      Steve L

      4 years ago

      The Garmin Approach s40 is perfect enough for me. As a 4.2 handicap player a front back and middle yardage is plenty of information to make a club choice. Reality is misses are a result of poor ball striking more so than a bad club choice. Bottom line is the device does not execute the shot.

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      bobbykz

      4 years ago

      So true. The claim of 5 strokes less for someone shooting 100 is questionable. Knowing the exact yardage, won’t help if your not hitting the green.(left, right, short).

      Chris Harty

      4 years ago

      I use golf logix gps on my phone and, more recently, a laser range finder. I would have loved to use only the gps, but found it was way too inaccurate. I’d walk up to my ball, look at the gps distance and grab a club. If i remembered to double check the distance, it would sometimes be 10 yards off the initial measurement. Missed way too many greens using only a gps.. Worse still, is having everyone wait on you while you figure out if the gps app is going to change its mind. So for me… a gps by itself isn’t enough.

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      joro

      4 years ago

      To most people it does nothing but take a lot of time cause they can’t hit it within 20 yds anyway.

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