Gadget Review – Swing Caddie SC100 Personal Launch Monitor
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Gadget Review – Swing Caddie SC100 Personal Launch Monitor

Gadget Review – Swing Caddie SC100 Personal Launch Monitor

Written By: Dan Mann

It’s pretty cool to think you can now have your own launch monitor roughly the size of a cell phone for less than the cost of…well…a cell phone. Sound impossible? The people at Voice Caddie believe they have created just such a device.

Like Trackman and FlightScope, the Swing Caddie SC100 is a hand-held, Doppler Radar-based launch monitor. Unlike those systems, which range in price from $10,000 – $22,000, the SC100 can be yours for under $300. Is that even possible?

Let’s find out.

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PRESENTATION

I’m a sucker for pomp & pizzazz.  I love products that reflect the passion and style of  the company behind them. Like with the Voice Caddie, Swing Caddie SC100 comes in a slick iPhone-esque box. The SC100 itself resembles a stylish, high-end mobile device and feels quite sturdy in the hands.

It’s not only looks good, it’s also durable. The SC100 is bumper’d on all four corners which gives the impression it can take a serious impact or two. If they’d sent me a second unit I may have attempted a drop test for you, but seriously, I baby my cell phone. If I have my way the SC100 is never seeing the ground other than when I place it there.

Probably worth a mention, you’re also going to look cool with this thing set up behind you on the range.

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EASE OF SET UP/USE

In the box we get the Swing Caddie manual, written in fairly simple terms with easy to follow diagrams. I will admit there we a few things I had to read twice, but once you get a feel for things its smooth sailing from there on in.

Next you’ll want to pop in the supplied batteries, a simple flick of the power switch on the side and easy as pie we’re up and running.

The device itself has 5 buttons placed on its sides to allow the user to easily switch through modes, club settings, check yardage and flip between ball speeds & smash factors. And fear not my American neighbors, because you insist on being different, there’s even a fancy switch to toggle from Metric to Imperial.

Realizing how much of a hassle it can be to stop, pick up your already-placed device and toggle through things the SC100 also comes with a really easy to use remote control.

How easy?

There’s literally a button for every single option from driver to wedge, mode, ball speed etc.

Putting it to use is supposed  to be very simple as well. Pick a mode and place the unit roughly 1.5 meters directly behind your ball, and swing away. In practice, this aspect of the setup has been very hit or miss.

One range session I’ll put it down roughly 1.5 meters and it catches every shot, while in another session I’ll have to move it 5 or 6 times before it starts capturing every shot. I’m not talking missing the odd shot here, the Voice Caddie would miss 15-20 shots before I would get it situated in the “Sweet Spot”.

 

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PERFORMANCE

Let’s cut right to the chase.  How does the SC100 fare against the big boys? We put it head-to-head against the FlightScope.

I had the opportunity to compare it outdoors to FlightScope. All in all, the Swing Caddie SC100 proved to be reasonably accurate.

Take a 7 iron for example. If a monitor like this is to be considered accurate you’d want it to be roughly within 1% of the big boys like a FlightScope or Trackman. Anyone with experience with either will tell you that it’s not unusual for even the industry leaders to totally miss an occasional shot, or sometimes provide data that doesn’t quite make sense.  It would be unreasonable to expect perfection from anything. With that said, I found the SC100 was consistently within 1.5% (low side) on average of FlightScope. That’s pretty damn impressive for a handheld device; especially one costs approximately $9,700  less..

We did experience some wild anomalies. It registered a 7 iron as traveling 30 yards further than I could ever hope to hit one. It missed a dead shank, and there were times I’d hit a decent 5 yard cut and it wouldn’t register at all.

They didn’t happen often, but the did happen. As I’ve said, every launch monitor (Trackman, FlightScope, Foresight), misses a shot every now and again.

 

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PRACTICAL USE

The grand question of all is who and what is the SC100 for? First let’s consider what numbers the SC100 supplies us with.

• Carry Distance
• Swing Speed
• Ball Speed
• Smash Factor

For a club fitter, that’s almost certainly not going to get it done. The lack of spin rate and launch angle makes the SC100 a non-starter for those guys. Worth noting, FlightScope’s Xi, which runs in the area of $4000 ballpark, does not offer spin and launch angle either. If you want launch and spin, you’ll need to spend at least $300 more on the upcoming Ernest Sports ES14, or you can step up to professional solutions like FlightScope Xi+ ($5,000), ForeSight GC2 ($6,500) or Trackman ($22,000).

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Certainly there are times when knowing launch angle and spin rates are critical. If you’re trying to optimize your driver, or measure small performance details between iron shafts, you’re going to need to know launch and spin rates (and shot height, and angle of descent). There’s no way around that.

If you need (or want) to know your angle of attack, swing path, or face angle, the SC100 isn’t going to give those to you either. For now, nothing is going to give you all that data, and do it accurately, reliably, and repeatedly for less than $5000.

So let’s just put it out there right now. The Swing Caddie SC100 isn’t really a fitting tool. It’s not designed to be. It has some practical application as a teaching tool, but it’s certainly not what you’d call an Enterprise-Class device designed to competed with Trackman, FlightScope, and ForeSight.

Swing Caddie is a not a tool for the professional, but for its audience…the average golfer looking for more (a lot more) info than the naked eye can provide, it’ represents a substantial leap forward in golf technology.

The SC100 is a “Personal” device that provides ample data for most of us to tune things up and get dialed in at the range. For those curious about tweaking lofts and even shafts on their own, having total carry distance on hand can be invaluable. You can try judging total distance by pacing it off or just eyeballing it. You’ll probably get it wrong, and isn’t it better to have immediate access to accurate data that can let you know whether or not that last 5 degree tweak added distance, or actually robbed you of 10 yards.

Here’s an example from my own life that illustrates how useful the Swing Caddie can be.

I have 2 identical wedge heads with two different shafts I wanted to compare since I’d been told they share very similar playing characteristics. The only difference is that one of the shafts is 20 grams lighter than the other. I found it extremely beneficial to be able to head down to the local range and hit a series of shots with each in order to determine whether or not one was measurably longer, produced or produced more ball speed than the other. For this type of situation, many will be able to eyeball their own launch and trajectory. So coupled with what Swing Caddie did give me, I was more than impressed.

 

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THE TRAINING AID

This to me is what the Swing Caddie is: a really good training aid. With mode options Target and Random the SC100 allows you to put your skills to the test and tune your personal yardages.

In Target Mode the user simply selects their club and is given an adjustable sets a distance and swings away trying to match that distance.

In Random Mode the SC100 will add randomization to Target Mode.

These modes come with a “game” where the user is rewarded points the closer they are to their yardage goal. This feature (similar to the Trackman Combine, or FlightScope Skills Challenge) is a valuable tool to force you to take the time to pause, and focus on what you’re doing during your practice sessions. It forces you to practice smarter.

 

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FINAL THOUGHTS

The Swing Caddie SC100 follows through with its promise as a “Personal Launch Monitor”. It supplies enough features in a minimalist, easy to understand package that most golfers should be able to put to practical use. It excels as a training aid and may have enough usable numbers to offer some value to instructors.

Certainly it can’t match Trackman and FlightScope feature for feature, but it’s not realistic to expect it will. Spin measurement in particular is protected by some seriously beefy patents. They’re tough to get around, and even where that’s possible, doing so for less than $300 would also be an unrealistic expectation. Worth a note, Ernest Sports claims their upcoming ES14 will accurately calculate spin. That unit retails for $550.

With the Swing Caddie SC100, we’re talking about a Doppler-based device that offers a subset of the capabilities of the professional solutions, for quite literally, pennies on the dollar.

As a golfer who likes to tinker and compare a lot of equipment, the SC100 a no-brainer product to have around, especially for Swing Caddie’s asking price of $269 USD. Combine those features with its value as a training tool and the SC100 easily warrants our stamp of approval.

 

 

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      Eamonn

      6 years ago

      I have mine a good few years now. Only tried it 3 times in the range. Usless. Maybe works for 1 shot in 20 and even that is totally inaccurate. One question though. The mat in the range doesn’t go back 1.5 meters behind the ball, so it’s normally about 1 inch lower than the ball. Is that the problem?

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      Hazen

      9 years ago

      Ordered a used one for $95 shipped. After reading the mixed reviews here, I don’t know what to expect. It’s here, I just have to go to the post office to get it since no one was home to sign for it.

      Only concern prior to 5 minutes ago ( before reading the few bad experiences here) was the pre-determined lofts. Playing Ping G20’s I know the lofts are a bit stronger so I had already assumed that it would be off a bit and that I would try selecting 6 iron on the SC100 while hitting my 7 iron just to see.

      As long as it’s consistent, I’ll be happy with it. If it says my swing speed is 80 mph or 200 mph, I don’t care, as long as it shows the same number anytime I swing the speed that I did to get that number. Then if I make some swing changes and the number changes, I can see if what I did differently had increased or decreased my speed relatively. I really want it to be accurate for carry distances since that’s why I got it, but for the price I paid, as long as I can get something positive out of it, I’ll be happy.

      Think I read somewhere that you can’t use colored balls with it, hope that isn’t true, I use yellow golf balls.

      side note, for those having issues with distance, it isn’t set to meters/yards when you are thinking it’s in the other? How about changing it’s location (distance behind the golf ball, move it closer or further away. I’ll try to post back once I get mine and get a chance to use it.

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      Hazen

      9 years ago

      Update, got a reply from them regarding how distance is calculated and according to them, the lofts that are preset will render the SC100 for me pretty useless. I’d only have 5 clubs that match the lofts set in the unit.

      The SC100 uses the following variables to calculate carry distance:
      1. Player swing speed
      2. Ball speed
      3. Club head loft
      4. Launch angle. (replied asking if this was preset too, or if the SC100 actually measured the launch angle, I will add their reply if I get one)

      The SC100 is normally preset to the following lofts:

      Woods
      W1 9.5°
      W3 17°
      W4 19°
      W5 21°
      W6 22°
      W7 24°

      Utility/Hybrid
      U3 18°
      U4 20°
      U5 22°
      U6 24°
      U7 26°

      Irons
      i3 20°
      i4 23°
      i5 26°
      i6 29°
      i7 35°
      i8 37°
      i9 41°

      Wedges
      PW 47°
      AW 53°
      SW 60°

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      Hazen

      9 years ago

      Well, got a reply just in less than 2 hours 4/13/15. Here is what they said.

      Hazen,

      Unfortunately, the lofts are preset and cannot be changed. My personal recommendation would be to set the device one club up to compensate for the loft.

      Our newest model, the SC200 (scheduled release late spring/early summer) does have the option to change loft angles per club.

      Thank you,

      Voice Caddie
      13951 Valley View Drive
      La Mirada, California 90638

      Brian

      8 years ago

      Bought sc200 before Christmas. Worked for about 30 minutes then became very erratic and stopped working. Sent back and another sent before new year . Just been out with new replacement and guess what ! Exactly the same problem. Worked for 30 minutes then became erratic again . Sending back now . Will not be trying another one . Do not buy this product.

      Dewey

      9 years ago

      I got this for X-mas from my wife. Took it down to Golfsmith and i gotta say this thing is very accurate on carry distance and ball speed. I hit over 70 balls on their launch monitor with the Swing Caddie set up 5 feet behind and compared on each shot taken. I live in Minnesota so the store was very slow, so 4 of the employees came back to check this out. Now the swing speed was accurate when hitting at the launch angle that the club was designed to be hit. example, if I hit a punch shot with a 7 iron, the carry and the ballspeed was accurate but not the swing speed. If i hit a normal 7 iron like it was intended to be hit letting the club loft do the work, the swing speed was accurate. I think that’s why they need to know the club your hitting for the per-determined launch angle. I gotta say i hit a couple of low hooking drivers that had launch angles of 6 that didn’t read correctly on the swing caddie but that was the only one. Very happy with the results and wanted to let you guys know about it!

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      Jeff

      8 years ago

      So this SC200 can be used hitting into a net?? Ive looked around for this info,but cant find it anywhere. Thanks for ant help

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      Robert

      10 years ago

      Does this only work in the day? Tried using with no readings at night … will try today …

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      John O

      10 years ago

      After some hesitation, since it’s a marginal purchase, I bought a Swing Caddie this week, black of course. It’s very accurate. The swing speed matches my SwingByte exactly. The distances match the driving range markers and my expectations. I appear to have a good unit. The store said they’ve sold plenty and only had two returned (for turning themselves off prematurely). The remote control is good; the generic club numbers seem to work, although there are no Lob wedges. Be careful not to erase all your swings.

      The mygolfspy review is still good, but over-enthusiastic. It’s a ton of money for useful but limited data. I get a lot more useful swing data for $200 from my SwingByte but clearly they have different purposes and maybe radar really costs this much. But for $280 I can’t not notice that the display is very basic and limited (e.g. ball speed or swing speed but not both), there’s no internet upload of your data, and it ought to come with a thickly padded pouch for protection. But it does work, and I’ll be using it to self-fit what’s the most effective loft for my woods with my swing, even with range rocks.

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      John O

      10 years ago

      More info. Still working well. I can’t tell whether the club selections on the device make any difference to the speed and distance calculations or whether they are just there for your record-keeping. Not convinced that the distance numbers on short wedge shots are more accurate than the human eye. (I’m comparing 54, 60 and 64 degree lob shots.) Seems to be of most use for mid irons. Long shots depend a lot on the ball in use.

      Anyway, adding to the list of disappointingly rudimentary electronics for such an expensive device: you can’t review your individual swings or delete outlier duffed shots; you only get an average of all the swings recorded under each club selection. Two averages in fact: “All” which is the last 100 swings and “Day” which is the current session. And don’t think you can go home and review today’s numbers; once you switch it off, it’s no longer the same “Day” and the “Day” stats are reset to zero.

      Still it’s confirming how far I hit my clubs, at least on good shots with a reasonable launch angle (not sure about the distances it estimates on low thin hits) and confirming which swing corrections are effective. I’ve adjusted the loft on my hybrid, and I’m fuming at my woods but hoping the problem is the range balls.

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      Brendan

      10 years ago

      Following on the line of discussion with Gary and Santiago I eventually got to the range to try the idea idea of using a different VC setting than the club I am actually using and below are the results:

      PW with PW voice caddie setting – 90 yds, 73 mph, 1.4 SF
      PW with 9i VC setting – 96 yds, 65mph, 1.2 SF
      PW with 8i VC setting – 93 yds, 66 mph,1.6 sf
      In each case I actually carried the ball well over 100yds often nearer 120yds

      7i with 7i VC setting – 107 yds, 68 mph, 1.24 sf
      7i with 6i setting – 105 yds ,72mph, 1.18 sf
      7i with 5i setting – 108 yds, 92 mph, 1.25 sf
      In each case I actually carried the ball well over 150 yds often nearer 160/5 yds

      Driver – driver vc setting – 185 yds, 81 mph, 1.49 sf
      In each case I carried the ball 200+

      So, I am not sure if this gives you any thoughts as to what is happening – it does look to me as though I may have a faulty unit? Any other thoughts appreciated. I have written back to Voice Caddie with this info so will be interested if they have any follow up advice/solutions – really frustrated by this! Brendan

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      Rico

      7 years ago

      Hi Brendan,

      I am hving exactly the same problem as well.
      Was wondering if its the screen protector blocking the reads.
      Do you have any feedback?

      Thx

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      Tony G.

      10 years ago

      Really good review. Well done and realistic assessment. Thank you. I ordered mine today.

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      Santiago

      10 years ago

      Gary, 104 ballspeed will give you a carry of about 120 with driver. You obviously have a deffective unit, but the information regarding speed and distance seems right. On the other hand, a high ballspeed but short carry might be an indication of delofting, and the unit calculating higher la and spin for said iron can give you 15 or so shorter carry than whats really happening. So far my unit is working pretty well.

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      Brendan Osborne

      10 years ago

      Thanks Santiago and Gary for your advice. I have now actually received a reply from VC support (maybe they read these postings). There advice includes asking me if I am at high altitude – other than being 6’2″ I live near London in England and definitely not at high altitude.
      The second question was about the golf balls at the range as to whether they are shorter distance ones – the range I use have proper golf balls and I have double checked that with the Pro – but just in case I have used it elsewhere with my own golf balls – same results. The last bit of advice was the same as Santiago’s regarding de-lofting my clubs – I know I don’t do this but nonetheless will try the idea of putting in a lower golf club number in the VC. I do tend to hit my golf balls high as this is often remarked on – but not sure how that would be a factor. I can’t remember the speed – I know it is quite high and probably a bit faster that average. I will be going up the range this weekend and will try these things.

      Your advice and help is much appreciated but somehow I suspect I will be going back to VC. Thanks Brendan

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      Gary

      10 years ago

      Brendan, I’m happy that VC replied to you, because that suggests they are still in business. I hope you can work out your problems.
      After reading your post earlier today, I took my swing caddie out to the range and tested it with the club that I never deloft, my driver. I set the device for W1, which I assume is the driver (the two pages of instructions that come with the swing caddie aren’t very clear about this, or anything else). The results were, as always, extremely inaccurate. I’ll share the best example: A drive that carried 220 yards displayed on the swing caddie as 118 yards, a swing speed of 70 mph and a ball speed of 104 mph. I suspect that the ball speed may be close to correct. I know the displayed distance was grossly incorrect. I have no idea what my swing speed was.
      So, for $250 I have, at best, a device which tells me when I have hit the sweet spot. My hands give me the same information when I hit a ball. I will again state, the swing caddy is a rip-off. Don’t buy it folks.
      GolfSpy MBP – if this company is an advertiser, I’ll bet they are past due on paying their account.

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      Brendan

      10 years ago

      My experience is the same as Gary’s – I live in England and can’t get a reply from Voice Caddie despite emails and phone calls. I had to pay postage and import duty and as result the item was a lot more expensive – but was prepared to put up with this. But I too have used on a range with accurately marked range boards and which I have checked with my bushnell range finder. I hit a pitching wedge 120 yards over the top of the 100yd board and it say I have hit it 80yds or less. Same with 7i carrying well beyond the 150yd board but reads 127yds or thereabouts. My driver seems to be more accurate as it indicates 190+yds.
      If it works as said it would be a fabulous tool – but as it is it is useless to me! And I am thoroughly disappointed not to be getting a reply from Voice Caddie!
      Reading above it sounds as though some people have ones that work but the likes of Gary and I seem to be unlucky and this seems to be grossly unsatisfactory.
      Gary happy to join a class action if I get no satisfaction soon. brendan

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      Santiago

      10 years ago

      Brendan, what was the ballspeed with your different shots??? Do you tend to deloft at impact?? I am guessing you do so, so you get longer distance with short irons. Since the unit can’t measure spin or LA, its just guessing a number for each shot. If you tend to deloft, maybe you can tell the unit you are hitting a #9 iron when you are hitting PW and see if the results match, just a tought.

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      Gary

      10 years ago

      First, a response to Brendan: Swing Caddie’s failure to respond to you speaks louder than our complaints about their product.

      Santiago, my thoughts mirrored yours because I deloft my irons. I tried your suggestion with several irons, but had no improvement in performance from the swing caddie.

      Tom

      10 years ago

      I have one. Only problem I have is the reliability of estimated distances. I presume when I tell it I’m hitting an 8-iron it’s calculating distance based on swing speed and “standard” loft. Or is it actually measuring launch angle with speed for distance calculation?

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      Gary

      10 years ago

      Tom,
      See my reply to another email on August 1. This thing is a complete rip-off.
      I think its problem is that it doesn’t accurately measure club-head (swing) speed.

      I’m going to spend some money next week to have my club pro use his $20K device to measure my club speeds. I recall that when he fitted me with a new driver a few months ago, my club head speed tested over 100 mph. I tested the swing caddie again this afternoon, which showed my maximum swing speed with a driver was 72 mph. As in my last report, my drives were carrying well past the distance shown on the swing caddie.

      I am doing all this for two reasons: (1) My first is selfish. In my state a judgment in court against the people who are marketing this rip-off can result in a judgment for triple damages, which includes attorneys’ fees. (2) Secondly, there appears to be grounds here for a class action suit on behalf of the people who have purchased this product. Hopefully, some enterprising attorney out there will recognize this and file a suit against these hoaxters and put them out of business.

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      Gordon

      10 years ago

      Gary,
      I have a SC 100 and its really very accurate. I have two friends who have also purchased the unit and so far no problems. The pitching game is great for anyones golf game. I suspect you have been unfortunate and have got hold of two units that are faulty.

      Jim Lee

      10 years ago

      It was great. It tells me that I was not consistently in my swing and impacts. But after two weeks, it broke. It kept turning off. Even with fresh batteries.

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      Gary

      10 years ago

      Does it matter which club is selected for the unit to measure carry distance? My unit appears to show the same distance for the club I’m swinging regardless of the club selected on the unit. I can set the unit for PW and swing my driver (W1) and get the same distances + or – a few yards for every unit club setting from PW through W1.

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      GolfSpy MBP

      10 years ago

      Gary I’ve noticed it makes a difference and it seems the algorithm it uses to calculate is affected as a direct result.

      If for instance I have the unit set to 6 iron and I hit drivers the total will max out at around 215 yards, but if I switch to driver it is able to read up to at least 300.

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      Gary

      10 years ago

      Well, after sending my first Swing Caddie back because it wouldn’t power up and receiving a replacement unit, which I have tested several times, I have put the Swing Caddie on my list of SCAMS.
      It isn’t accurate. It isn’t even close to being accurate. It’s an official rip-off.
      Today’s test is typical of all past tests. The testing place was my club’s driving range, which has well measured distances clearly marked, and which I verified with my Bushnell range finder prior to hitting balls. Sample results:
      1. Driver, which carried 180 yards, showed on swing caddie as 133 yds with a swing speed of 80mph and ball speed of 90mph.
      2. 8 iron which carried 125 yards, showed on swing caddie as 80 yds with a swing speed of 61 mph and ball speed of 66 mph.
      There were several other shots, all of which displayed as grossly inaccurate as the two examples above.
      Fortunately for me, I am a lawyer and will be filing suit under my State’s Deceptive Trade Practices Act for Fraud and breach of warranty. My damages are the cost of this scam and my attorney fees.
      My recommendation to all who are contemplating a purchase of this thing – DON’T.

      RogA

      10 years ago

      Can you add clubs in this device (I have 4 wedges)?

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      ericmb4769

      10 years ago

      Will this work on any range balls?

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      Klaus

      10 years ago

      Does anybody tried the unit from gras/fairway? I did my first session from a mat and the numbers. seemed ok. The second session from gras produced mostly weird numbers.

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      Adam

      10 years ago

      Klaus,

      Yes I use this both in conjunction with foresight on matts and as a standalone unit on grass driving range.

      My numbers are good for the most part. Some shots I’m guessing it reads the ball, the club, debris/divots and misplaces the numbers. Very seldom does this happen and usually only when I hit a shot a little heavy.

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      Gordon

      10 years ago

      I have had no problems on grass. Its the same as the mat. It could be that your swing on grass is less good than on the mat, there are more people in golf with this anomaly.

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      Paul

      10 years ago

      spent a considerable amount of time with the Swing Caddie and found it fairly accurate so far except for the 3 wood. My 3 wood average is 108mph with a ball speed of 144 but the machine says 217y average. When watching where the ball lands and taking out a bushnell range finder the ball was landing closer to 250. My U3 is showing an average 109mph with 144 ball speed and the average is showing 222y which is accurate with the bushnell. If I swing the 3 wood and have the caddie on U3 I still get the same results which makes sense. I’m also hitting at 4500′ above sea level and so far all other clubs seem to be fairly accurate.

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      BobG

      10 years ago

      How is this really any different from the ones you clip on your shaft or glove? Some of the ones you clip on your shaft even provide angle of attack as well as face position at impact. Without additional features seems like a lot of money for minimal information.

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      steve

      10 years ago

      es12 doesnt do club head speed just ball and distance

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      Louis DeSantis

      10 years ago

      When you have to enter a specific club, how does it factor in when a club has been lengthened or shortened or doesn’t this matter?

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      Mike

      10 years ago

      It asks for club input for the loft to calculate the launch angle. Length of the club is not relevant as club head speed is measured.

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      John O

      10 years ago

      You mention that no device is going to give you your angle of attack, swing path, or face angle for under $5k. SwingByte 2 does that. mygolfspy has an excellent review of the swing analysers, as mentioned a few comments up, of which I think SwingByte 2 is the best.
      But I’m still looking at the Swing Caddie, because I want to know exactly how far I’m hitting each club. And the ball speed and Smash Factor will tell me if all my SwingByte work really is resulting in a more efficient swing. The swing analysers can’t measure the ball’s speed.
      I don’t think I’d pay double for launch angle and spin from ES14.

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      andrew

      10 years ago

      i thought i saw “left” in one of the readout pics- does this device give you any directional info? i’d really like to know…

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      GolfSpy MBP

      10 years ago

      “Left” in Target Mode means the distance left/remaining (to the imaginary pin).

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      gdc64

      10 years ago

      Good review and interesting product. I also would like to see more results on these products in the forum.
      I think this device would be really helpful to a wide range of golfers to improve their game.
      Thanks for the review and keep us informed.

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      John Imbalzano

      10 years ago

      You gotta love the technology and innovation to bring this type of device to market.

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      Evan

      10 years ago

      Couple of questions;
      – Is the screen backlit?
      – How does the screen look in direct sunlight (i.e. easy to see)?
      – Any indication on the battery life?
      – Is it charged via mini-usb?

      Thanks!

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      GolfSpy MBP

      10 years ago

      – Is the screen backlit?
      Investigating, but I’m pretty sure NO
      – How does the screen look in direct sunlight (i.e. easy to see)?
      Decent – legible
      – Any indication on the battery life?
      7-8 hours in and still fully charged. Swing Caddie claims 20 hours
      – Is it charged via mini-usb?
      Sadly no, 3 x AAA. I’m prepping the rechargeable’s myself.

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      GolfSpy MBP

      10 years ago

      Screen is NOT backlit

      Gil B.

      10 years ago

      For us golfaholics it sounds like a nice little gadget to play with for some basic information. For those of us who don’t have the thousands of dollars to shell out for the super duper launch monitors this is an option. Of course it sounds like the statistical data will need to be finely scrutinized by tossing out the numbers that are obviously either above or below the true parameters of each golfers ability. Or does this little gizmo give us data that we really don’t want to know and frustrate the hell out of us? It would be fun to try. Thanks for the article, your input was fun and interesting.

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      GolfSpy WD

      10 years ago

      We need a ES14 review now!

      Fantastic job Dan, I’m very tempted to pick one of these up, but I need to debate on whether or not spin numbers are really worth an extra $300. That’s a tough call.

      Would also love a comparison between the SC100 and ES12! I liked that Ernest Sports posted comparisons between their product and trackman, but I really want an independent review.

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      Adam

      10 years ago

      I have one coming tomorrow (ES14). I will be comparing to track-man and GC2 in controlled environments as well as on range with various shot types over the weekend.

      I will post a review, if not as comprehensive as the one MGS will do, for those that would like to hear how it performs. I’ve decided to go with the ES14 ( the first of any type of monitor I have purchased) upon receiving their assurance that if I was unhappy with my test I could return the unit. I am looking for something to complement giving lessons on the range that runs me less than 5k as I am not a “pro” and just give a few lessons as a side job/hobby.

      I think I have “realistic” expectations for the units performance and usefulness very interested to see if it can measure up.

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      iMike74

      10 years ago

      @Adam.

      I am also thinking about the ES14, and use it as a training tool. My problem is a high launch angle and way too much spin, so thats wy the SC100 isn’t useful to me, soif you can say something about those functions on the ES14 it would be appreciated.

      Will you post the review here?

      /Mike

      Adam

      10 years ago

      iMike74-

      I’m finished testing and am in process of creating the review. Takes some time trying to cram it in around my work but I should be done within the next day or so.

      It may not be as extensively done or as well written as the standard MGS post but I think it will fill in some blanks for those that want more information.

      I will post in the forum and let you know.

      Best

      A

      Matt

      10 years ago

      So, is this unit outdoor specific or could I use it on my indoor garage range?

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      Glen

      10 years ago

      You can use this hitting into a net. I saw this unit at a golf show a couple weeks ago, and the Callaway booth bought one.
      I ended up picking one up myself. It’s too cold to put it through it’s paces yet.
      The rep that sold me the unit told me that Callaway was so impressed with the unit at the show, that they ordered 250 of them for there demo days.

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      Matt

      10 years ago

      Thanks Glen!

      Christian Furu

      10 years ago

      How about Swing Caddie vs. SwingByte/SkyPro/Zepp + others? What does SC do that swing sensors don’t?

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      mygolfspy

      10 years ago

      The most comprehensive test on those units to date was done here, feel free to compare:
      http://mygolfspy.com/skypro-swing-analyzer-trainer-review/

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      SMRT

      10 years ago

      When I was trying to get into Long Drive I thought it would be very helpful to have something like this while playing with different head and shaft combinations. I never thought about using this as a training aid. That does make sense. How cool would it be if you could link this with another golfer via wifi and play the random mode game against them?

      Nice job Mr. Mann!

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      C.Evans

      10 years ago

      The device has a definite cool factor but that’s about it for me. The smash factor number is about the most useless number there is. It doesn’t matter one iota and anyone that’s reasonably skilled in math can calculate it in less than 10 seconds.

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      Adam

      10 years ago

      C.Evans

      I would have to disagree.

      Smash factor on its own taken at face value isn’t extremely valuable. However as with most numbers given to us by swing and or ball flight trackers if combined with other variable from your shot the smash factor can certainly tell a story. Quality of the strike of course can be indicated but to a lesser extent than simple feel. Much more valuable in my mind for a person that hits the center quite a lot is that it can tell you something about how much loft you are presenting at impact and in turn you can guesstimate your spin rates and have a better idea about what a ball might have done had you hit it in to a green.

      Yes,,,The smash factor is simply the balls speed divided by the club head speed at impact and yes this is a very simple calculation. But I would say the smash factors display on the unit does allow for some other calculations and comparisons to be made much more quickly on a shot by shot basis.

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      C.Evans

      10 years ago

      You need a computer to figure out if you’re at 1.5 or not? Knowing ball speed and swing speed you can figure out quickly of you’re optimizing impact at a rate 1.5 times your swing speed. It’s not rocket science. People would be much better served replacing that reading on this unit with a more usable one, such as spin rate or launch angle.

      Mike

      10 years ago

      You’re missing the point, C. The reason other devices (GC2) don’t show smash is because they are not measuring club data. This device claims to be measuring the club ball speed AND club head speed. When determining the quality of the strike these numbers are invaluable. Since they are measuring both, why not display the smash as well? I’m glad you can do division but for most, 161/103 becomes tedious if you have to do it on every swing especially when you’re trying to squeeze .05 out of your ball speed…

      mark b

      10 years ago

      And I was stunned to learn that with the GC2 the “smash factor” or efficiency rating is an input that can be set ahead of time, impacting the output estimates like carry distance that the unit will produce. An unscrupulous fitter can use this to favor club A over club B in a fitting, as I found out.

      Mark B

      10 years ago

      The “set” smash factor on GC2 for individual clubs does not affect the simulated out put for carry distance or roll. It only effects the calculated swing speed. LA, BS, SL determine carry distances and roll. This applies to GC2 standalone unit.

      GC2 HMT* actually measured club speed and therefore does not require a predetermined standard smash factor.

      Adam

      10 years ago

      Mark…accidentally put your name in that last response. Phone reply.

      adam

      10 years ago

      Tony

      Not to bombard this page with posts…but how did you test the unit against flight scope? It was my understanding that two Doppler units used in conjunction would cause false readings due to signal interference.

      thanks

      A

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      Mike

      10 years ago

      One thing I’ve always wondered with these devices is how they perform with “range rocks”. Some range balls flight reduction–will ball speed suffer with these balls?

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      steve yassaro

      10 years ago

      Range balls will definitely garner different results. I’m sure it varies depending on the range but I’d say range balls reduce ball speed by about 5 MPH or so. I tested by actually hitting a few real balls on the range and of course noting the difference when I used it on the course.

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      mr_theoo

      10 years ago

      This sounds great, the target and random mode would be extremely beneficial for the range when you’re working on partial shots to a specific distance. Great review MBP

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      Brad

      10 years ago

      Is there a way to see (and possibly export) all the shots that you have hit, or can you only see the last shots you’ve hit? I would like to use this as a way to measure how far I hit each club – especially half wedges, etc. – not just one number, though. I would like to see the range for each club. If this can’t be done, I guess I’ll have to go with the ES12 – it really is too much work to write the number down after each shot

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      GolfSpy MBP

      10 years ago

      The SC100 has 2 stats modes

      ALL – Average of the last 100 shots with a given club
      DAY – average per club for the day

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      Marc Kilgore

      10 years ago

      Looks interesting – would like to see a comparison to the new ES14. Why can’t I find this article on the main site? I only saw it off the twitter feed.

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      Christian Furu

      10 years ago

      Does the picture at the bottom illustrate how you placed it during testing?

      It needs 100% level placement to pick up all shots. I’ve used similar range mats with a difference in height. SC had problems picking up shots and gave some strange readings. Placed it on the mat with the ball far forward – no problem. Picks up everything.

      But I did notice that it has problems registering shots if you change your angle. It looks like it has to be aimed straight at the trajectory. Not sure why, I need to find our more about how it works.

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      GolfSpy MBP

      10 years ago

      The day in the photo we actually had no issues with it picking up shots and the mat it’s sitting on is the same height as the range mats. Purely a angle/perspective thing.

      I can’t explain it thought, but there was one time out, for the life of me I couldn’t get it to pick up anything until finding the “sweet spot”. Every range session since has been fine.

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      cinchai

      10 years ago

      The units have a specific bandwidth spectrum (approx 45 degrees total) from target. This is to prevent picking up other shots teeing up next to you.

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      hckymeyer

      10 years ago

      Can you start up a forum article on this? I think it warrants more discussion that the comment section will allow. I know I have a bunch of questions too numerous to list here.

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      Santiago

      10 years ago

      GC2 does calculate carry distance, not sure why its marked with an X.

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      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      Typo in the chart. Fixed.

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      adam

      10 years ago

      Great review.

      I am actually looking in to this unit and the Es14. Do you have input on actual vs calculated data from the unit?

      I’m curious whether swing speed is calculated off a set smash factor for the given club and ball speed with this unit or does it actually measure head and ball directly?

      thanks again

      Adam

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      adam

      10 years ago

      Disregard the earlier question. It occurred to me just after posting that the units give a smash factor read out most units that do not directly measure the club seem to leave out a “smash factor” on their readout , for obvious reasons. To confirm I contacted a SkyCaddie rep who informed me that the units measure both the ball and the club. The measurement occurs at and just after impact. Separating the two measured speed based on the lower one..being the club..and the higher obviously being the ball. This is interesting to me as I hear the ES14 has two Doppler eyes; one facing forwards that measures the ball, and one facing backward that measures the club. I’ll be curious to see if one or the other methods of measurement are more accurate or have fewer errors.

      I could definitely see purchasing this unit myself. If you are fairly familiar with the numbers you get on flightscope and trackman and you have ball flight as a visual this tool could be used very effectively.

      I hope you are able to get your hands on the ES14 for similar test.

      Thanks as always Tony

      best

      A

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