Two Years Later, the PXG Effect Continues to Spread
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Two Years Later, the PXG Effect Continues to Spread

Two Years Later, the PXG Effect Continues to Spread

We’re coming up on three years since MyGolfSpy coined the phrase The PXG Effect as an attempt to encapsulate the upstart brands’ impact on the golf industry. Admittedly, part prognostication and part evidentiary sampling, it certainly appears a paradigm is shifting. It’s been nearly four years since the company launched, and somewhere between accident and intention, PXG has become a different type of family business while altering the standards by which the industry evaluates golf luxury.

It’s nothing if not a bold proclamation, but entirely befitting of what started as the insatiable curiosity of billionaire and admitted golf nut, Bob Parsons.

PERSONA

“At the end of the day, it’s the people that matter. We’re a family first.”

Any conversation about PXG’s identity starts and ends with Parsons, its founder and financier. Parsons’ business success can be traced to a singular focus on patient excellence, even if his approach often might seem non-traditional. Those who claim he’s a boisterous billionaire who refuses to pay much attention to critics are correct. For better or worse, Parsons doesn’t answer to anyone, and while he’s not opposed to alternative viewpoints – especially when they’re accompanied by alternative solutions – final decisions are made by a committee of one. Those who look beyond the bluster and recognize his generosity, drive for excellence, and humble integrity are every bit as correct. Like anyone else, it’s impossible to encapsulate who Parsons is in strictly binary terms. To paraphrase a quote from Sarah Silverman, people aren’t just one thing.

PXG is a fundamentally different equipment company because Parsons’ priorities are fundamentally different from his competitors’. As such, the execution of PXG the golf brand is going to be different, and Parsons isn’t going to be pigeon-holed by convention. “I really don’t know what a golf executive is…I wasn’t an internet exec…wasn’t a powersports exec and again, I’m not a golf exec,” Parsons told MyGolfSpy. When forced to use the industry-standard adjectives to describe Parsons and his approach to the golf business, None of the Above is the one that most often applies.

From day one, PXG has been a reflection of Bob Parsons, and as it evolves, his fingerprints continue to leave indelible marks. Some love it, others loathe it – and my hunch is just as many don’t understand it.

“Everything I’ve ever accomplished I owe to the Marine Corps.”

Parsons the Marine and Parsons the business magnate are inseparable. On the verge of failing to graduate high school, Parsons and two buddies joined the Marines at the height of the Vietnam war. There, Parsons formed a deep understanding of what it meant to operate with honor, courage, commitment and a single-minded focus on the task at hand. It’s not over-selling it to say that the Marine Corps changed Parsons life. “Everything I’ve ever accomplished I owe to the Marine Corps,” says Parsons. It’s one of several reasons he donates $10+ Million annually to the Semper Fi Foundation. Beyond the club naming nomenclature and limited-edition Darkness 26 products (Parsons served in the 26th Marine Corps Regiment), it’s the Marine Corps values of honor, courage, and commitment which provides the philosophical underpinnings for PXG. It’s the team that drives the processes which ultimately make the difference. “At the end of the day, it’s the people that matter, says Parsons. We’re a family first.”

FAMILY

“I’ve never considered writing maternity leave into a contract, and truthfully I was a little scared to tell Mr. Parsons…”

With the notable exception of PING, golf companies have largely become corporations or enterprises within corporations. Brands like Hogan and Callaway no longer have a direct link to their founders, and though one could argue Miura is an exception, the more it expands, the less it feels like a small family run operation.

Behind Parsons’ sometimes gruff exterior is a fiercely loyal man who understands that trust, particularly with his most demanding clientele, is a two-way street. “If somebody (touring professionals) is willing to play my equipment and stake their career on it,” says Parsons, “the least I can do is help them any way I can.”

Case in point; LGPA staffer, Gerina Piller took a year off from competitive golf after her son, Ajeo James (AJ), born in April of last year. “I’ve never considered writing maternity leave into a contract, and truthfully I was a little scared to tell Mr. Parsons. He can be a little intimidating,” Pillar told MyGolfSpy. True to his word, Parsons asked Gerina a single question “What do you need from us?” Last season, Parsons paid Piller her full contract, though she didn’t play a single event.

Billy Horschel signed on with PXG in 2016. Unbeknownst to the outside world, his wife, Brittney, was struggling with alcoholism and entered a treatment facility that summer. It was a tremendously challenging time for the young family as Billy took time away from professional golf to tend to obviously more important matters. Again, Mr. Parsons had a single concern – and it had nothing to do with golf. “Billy, what do you need from me?” With Parsons, the answers always seem to go beyond contractual obligations, because that’s how families take care of one another.

These stories and countless others stand in stark contrast to the perception of Parsons of an arrogant and greedy billionaire gouging golfers for every cent he possibly can. Parsons takes care of his people. It’s core to who he is, and it’s a theme that repeats itself in his unwavering support of LPGA players and women’s collegiate programs. Much of what happens behind the scenes with Bob Parsons isn’t out of obligation. Doing the right thing never requires justification.

Zach Johnson hesitates to use the term “contract” at all when discussing his status with PXG. “It’s a brand and a relationship first and foremost,” says Johson. Certainly, money is a part of the equation, but Johnson credits PXG’s technology with prolonging his career and ability to compete against the best players in the world. “I’m 42 and flying bunkers I couldn’t carry five years ago.” Headlong critics can’t seem to get past the fact Johnson hasn’t won an event since 2015 (prior to his switch to PXG). Apologies to Vince Lombardi, but winning actually isn’t everything – and when used as the exclusive criterion for success, can be a false metric. The PGA Tour is in the midst of a youth movement. Players ages 25 and under accounted for 10 wins on tour in 2018 and 18 wins during the 2017 season. Even so, Johnson points to 18 top-25 finishes in 2018 as validation that PXG gives Johnson a leg up on Father Time.

Another player told me, “I feel fortunate to have all of my sponsors. They’re all great, but PXG is special.” Part of what makes PXG rare is Parsons’ hands-on approach. He regularly checks in with all of his players to offer congratulations, a couple of words of encouragement, or just to see how the spouse and kids are doing. “It’s not something I’ve ever experienced before – and it’s pretty cool.”

Player after player remarks how “PXG is different…it really does feel like a family…” And this isn’t boilerplate, lip-service, kiss-ass commentary from young players looking to fit in. It’s every bit as authentic as Parsons’ unmistakable “Hey brother!” greeting. “

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ONGOING MARKET IMPACT

As with his employees and tour staff, when it comes the retail side of the business, Parsons doesn’t march to the beat of his own drummer; he rewrites the music.

So when conventional golf circles labeled PXG as a fad from minute one, it was both an assessment without evidence and a catch-22. Authentic luxury develops over time, whereas technologies are quantifiable – they can be tested and proven. True innovation, however, is a process, and when a company is less than four-years-old, every success is short-term. Fads, like economic recessions, can only be defined when looking in the rearview mirror and though I’m sure critics would welcome some schadenfreude, both empirical and subjective evidence seems to suggest that PXG is having more of an impact than anyone thought likely.

Consider that in June of 2015, PXG hadn’t sold a single club. It now has 12 international distributors and a footprint in 44 countries. According to the Golf Datatech U.S. Market Summary, August 2018, PXG 0311 Irons are the number one selling irons model based on On-Course sales (dollars) over the past three years. That’s the kind of one-off, cherry-picked stat that just about every brand has used at one time or another to oversell itself, and a single point in time doesn’t always paint the complete picture. That said, given the marketplace dominance of the Big 5, that PXG has managed to escape the Other category, the golf equipment industry’s equivalent of also-rans, it borders on remarkable.

Here, it’s important to note that Mr. Parsons is adamant that PXG, while positioned as a luxury brand, is an affordable luxury. When Yeti hit the market, it did so at ten-times the going rate for an average cooler ($300 vs. $30). In comparison, PXG’s GEN2 metalwoods sit 10%-20% above the industry average with its irons are roughly twice as expensive as category-equivalent offerings from the major OEMs. For PXG, elevated prices are a vital part of its formula.

Studies performed by Stanford and CalTech examined a similar dynamic and found compelling results. Chiefly, consumers consistently rated a more expensive bottle of wine higher than the exact same bottle at a lower price – and functional MRI tests showed evidence the participants enjoyed drinking it more as well. Subjects given two placebo pain killer pills – both of which were fake – were subjected to a series of shocks. Those who consumed the more expensive pill experienced greater pain reduction.

That is to say, in a very real sense, price can alter performance. It’s part of the reason Parsons attracts a number of customers who know the clubs are expensive but, according to Parsons, “never ask the price. They buy three sets and hop back on their private jets.” PXG has become the favored brand of athletes, entertainers, and the business elite whose passion for golf is exceeded only by the elasticity of their bank accounts.

When the first generation 0311 irons hit the market in 2015, the notion of paying $350-$400 per iron, particularly for a brand without a history of excellence (or any history for that matter) to leverage, sent critics into a frenzy. Other than a few niche Japanese brands, golf manufacturers traditionally stay well away from overly ambitious price points and so it wasn’t particularly surprising that the industry went into full knee-jerk response mode, reducing otherwise rational and intelligent people to statements such as “They’re just over-priced PINGs”, “Parsons has no idea what he’s doing”, “What have you said yes to? Those are terrible.”

And those were the thoughts of executives and industry veterans from the biggest OEMs in the game.

Even Matt Rollins, PXG’s Director of Tour Operations, whom previously held the same position at PING, was chided by a close colleague who said, “I hope you know what you’re doing because by the end of the year (2015) you won’t have a job.” At that point, the PXG tour staff consisted of a single player, Ryan Moore, who bagged a set of 03x prototypes to start the 2015 season. For those on the outside, PXG seemed to be a company with a cloudy future at best. Clarity came by way of a string of PGA and LPGA signings (Zach Johnson, Billy Horschel and Lydia Ko among others), bringing the total number of PXG Troops (Parsons term for his professional tour staff) to twelve. Unlike other upstart brands that have appeared from nowhere, and disappeared just as quickly, PXG shows no signs of fading.

Critics often fail to see the entire context of a situation, focusing exclusively on what appears obvious to them. Bob Parsons has the unique ability to change the context because he sees potential where myopic naysayers simply don’t. Detractors focused on lists of reasons why PXG would fail while never considering that Parsons wouldn’t have entered the market if he hadn’t already figured out how to succeed.

Each season, Matt Rollins greets his friend during the unofficial tour start in January with the same warm, slightly caustic smile and a bold “Well, I still have a job” declaration. Touché.

The reality was Parsons put the industry on notice waving with one hand and flipping the bird with the other as if to say – I’m glad you’re paying attention to what we’re doing, but don’t expect the same in return. Perspective is everything, so whether Parsons is viewed as an arrogant 1-percenter or a confident businessman is often simply a matter of the viewing angle.

Taken at face value, there’s seemingly little unique in the PXG offerings. The caviler will argue the hollow-body iron concept predates the PXG 0311 by several decades, if not more. It’s a fair statement, however; it fails to acknowledge how the 0311 matched an idea with patent-worthy modern technology that fundamentally changed the industry. Specifically, that 0311 spawned a new and distinct class of irons that melds ball speeds and the distance of game-improvement irons with the aesthetic, feel, and workability demanded by professionals and competitive amateurs.

Because any truly effective technology is sure to be mimicked, it’s what other OEMs have done in response which cements PXG’s credibility as an equipment maker and validates its intellectual property. The same OEMs which initially dismissed PXG couldn’t pivot fast enough once it became clear PXG had figured out to reach a segment of the market that some of its competitors begrudgingly acknowledge they hadn’t realized existed.

Consider the competitive response since the 0311’s unofficial birth date (June 1st, 2015), all of which incorporate some, most, or perhaps a bit too much of PXG’s signature blueprint.

Titleist threw every R&D trick it had at the experimental C16 concept series which debuted in April 2016. Callaway’s Epic Pro irons (2017) tested the premium market at $250/club. JDM stalwarts Miura and EPON, forced to compete on something more than status and mystique, rebuilt significant portions of their iron lineups because of the impact PXG’s emergence had on their bottom lines.

And then there’s TaylorMade…

To no small degree, golf equipment is a copycat industry, but TaylorMade stepped a little close to the fire with the release of its P790 irons in 2017. PXG, and more specifically, Bob Parsons, felt a line, in fact, several, had been crossed. The ensuing legal battle officially ended in a tie with the language of the agreement reading “each company will have specified rights to make club products under patent cross-licenses.”

The court of public opinion, however, is a different beast. Some felt in filing suit, PXG affirmed critics who believed TaylorMade’s technology was the equal of PXG’s at a significantly lower price. Others understood Parsons’ need to protect his signature iron technology and along with it, PXG’s elite status.

If either side fully capitulated, we may never know. What can’t be argued, however, is which technology hit the market first – the same way no one needed a court to figure out Vanilla Ice ripped off David Bowie and Queen.

3 months into 2019, it’s hard to find an OEM without a Forged Distance iron holding a marquee position in the line-up. Prior to 2015, you’d be hard-pressed to find any.

Today, PXG is an established player with a global presence, but equipment alone doesn’t constitute a brand as a luxury.

STATUS

Luxury often appeals to the pathos inspiring adjectives like refined, superior, and timeless. And while companies have to sell something, luxury purchases are often rooted in brand identity as much as the products themselves. That isn’t some stark revelation for most, but in the North American centric golf industry, it’s a space unique to PXG.

Mainline US brands (Callaway, Titleist, Ping, TaylorMade, Cobra) control roughly 90% of the retail market, but gravity, working as it does, makes it an onerous task for any brand to elevate itself to luxury status when it’s already firmly entrenched in the mainstream. It’s one thing to declare your everyman’s brand premium, it’s quite another to convince the market to take you at your word. Upward mobility is particularly challenging in golf given that manufacturers routinely present their mainstream products as being born from revolutionary thinking and offering breakthrough technology. Lines like the Titleist Concept and Callaway Epic (irons, and Star driver) open the door to uncomfortable questions. Is what’s on the shelf at a big box retailer near you the best of anything, or are brands holding back on the good stuff for the guys willing to pay more for it?

How does a mainstream brand enter the premium space without diminishing mainstream products which by definition, can’t be quite as premium? It’s a question PXG doesn’t have to answer because it was always conceived to be a luxury brand. It does, however, face a different sort of challenge. As it works to garner more attention from, and its prices trending closer to the mainstream, it’s reasonable to wonder if PXG will be able to maintain the line between luxury and accessibility that its identity depends on – especially if continuous growth is part of the plan.

To no small degree, the clarity necessary to maintain that distinction relies on PXG’s ability to continue blurring the line between product and experience.

A lesson no doubt learned from his other business, Parsons understands that PXG is selling a service every bit as much as it is a product, and as such, buying PXG is meant to be an experience. The goal is white glove treatment at every interaction, whether it be via a brand agnostic fitter like Cool Clubs, Club Champion, or PXG’s team of field reps who facilitate demo day events at green grass accounts and private clubs throughout the year. PXG seeks to differentiate itself by offering a higher level of service to all of its customers. Since nothing is held back from the clubs, spending more won’t get you a better product, but it will get you a different kind of experience.

For those with larger appetites and deeper pockets, PXG offers the PXG Experience and PXG Ultimate experience – both of which are high-dollar destination fittings and fall under the “if you balk at spending $400/club, this one ain’t for you” category. If you’re good paying a premium for access to Scottsdale National Golf Club, first-class travel, accommodations, dining and some on-course face time with Mr. Parsons, it’s something unrivaled in the industry.

And they say money can’t buy happiness.

Expansion

Last year, PXG opened its first retail location in a rather nondescript building in an even less distinct business park area just northwest of downtown Chicago, in the well-to-do suburb of Northbrook, IL. It has two fitting bays, a putting green and a full complement of soft goods and accessories, though the external appearance isn’t what one would expect given Parsons’ penchant for striking proclamations and commercials which read like tweets sent out in ALL CAPS.

But again, that’s exactly the point. PXG isn’t the pair of shoes you buy because it caught your eye in the lucky size 30% off section. It’s something golfers seek out, typically with an intent to purchase and without expectation of a discount. PXG isn’t a bargain-based operation. Like the equipment, the softgoods and accessories offer commensurate luxury at premium price points, though Parsons understands not everyone wanting to rep the brand is interested in $150 polos and $450 cart bags. More moderately priced items ($25 ball markers/divot tools, $35 New Era brand hats) create multiple points of entry.

Add to that the recently announced PXG Japan, a joint venture between Parsons and Japanese real estate magnate Yuji Nishimura (Director of Classic Group). Says Parsons, “The forming of PXG Japan is an ideal way to manage and grow the PXG brand in Japan in an authentic way.” True to form, PXG selects business partners cut from a similar cloth, so to speak, and the Classic Group certainly fits the profile. It owns and manages high-end golf clubs, hotels, and practice facilities throughout Japan, including the Hanna Country Club, which sits adjacent to PXG Osaka.

A first-of-its-kind driving range concept with three state-of-the-art fitting studios, a dedicated retail space, and 141 hitting bays; the 1.4 million square foot PXG Osaka is, according to Parsons, “a beacon of the quality, innovation, and performance we plan to deliver with every effort in Japan.”

Some brands want to sell; others motivate consumers to buy. It’s likely PXG’s continued success will be a function of maximizing the latter while dripping in enough of the former – a balance which may present a new challenge for Parsons. The fact of the matter is that PXG isn’t the first to try its hand at self-contained retail. Callaway tried it, TaylorMade tried it too. Neither had any long-term impact. Why should PXG be any different? The answer may depend on Parsons’ ability to push his boutique brand to the edge of mainstream, without falling into it.

Icebergs and Influencer Culture

For as far has PXG has come in less than 4 years, “we’re only just discovering the tip of the iceberg” says PXG’s Chief Product Officer Brad Schweigert. Its 0311 GEN1 irons revolutionized the players distance category of irons and opened up new price points across the industry and PXG believes its GEN2 irons are measurably better in every way. One has to wonder what could possibly be next? Though they haven’t received the same attention, PXG’s line of milled wedges is an industry first and sets an incomparable standard for spec tolerance and replication. Production costs put this type of product out of reach for most every mainline OEM, but because costs don’t present the same barrier for PXG, nothing is off the table. Its GEN2 metalwoods are a technological step forward, and while the ruling bodies have set firm boundaries around driver design, PXG, like everyone else, will continue to push the limits.

Continued technological advancement is imperative, but so too is the manner in which PXG messages both its current and prospective audiences. It’s a weighty topic and one worthy of further dialogue, but should social influencers become a larger part of the marketing and branding approach – and given that said influencers are nearly the polar opposite of the primary circles in which PXG has established itself as a luxury brand – how will PXG continue to broaden appeal without diluting its status? With celebrities (and I am using that term loosely) like Larry the Cable Guy and others gravitating toward PXG (Larry tweeted his affinity for his PXG clubs at the AT&T Pebble Beach Pro-AM), how does it successfully operate in what’s becoming more of an influencer culture?

I doubt Mr. Parsons ever entertained the notion that PXG would become a symbol of frat-boy opulence, yet PXG the brand (arguably the logo), not the golf equipment, is gaining some degree of cult status with the 18-22 contingent solely because of its identity, and because there isn’t another brand like it. Within this context, PXG represents something modern and expensive – or to use more context appropriate lexicon – It’s lit Fam. Totally Gucci, and Hundo P. 

It’s unlikely gaining that type of following was part of the original plan for the PXG brand, but the willingness to embrace it suggests an ability to adapt to changing conditions and reach unexpectedly broadening audiences.

PXG doesn’t attend trade shows, and yet at this year’s PGA Merchandise show, PXG’s presence was felt. The number of attendees sporting PXG warez served as evidence that PXG the brand, has the reach and social cache. Additionally, there’s a quantifiable and growing fervor for PXG soft goods in Korea and Japan which, if past is prologue, can take on a life and status all its own – if it hasn’t done so already.

PXG is thriving, in part because it never needed to. Or more correctly, because it was born out of a question, the answer to which was never meant to be assessed by typical industry metrics.

Thus far, the answers have enraged critics and found favor with a clientele no other OEM would take the risk to discover. Cynics seem to resonate with the all too common refrain that any hint of elitism is incongruent with “growing the game.” Others have entirely bought-in but refuse to take a more critical look at PXG to explore what chinks exist in its armor.

PXG has inspired legions of fans and fanboys, detractors and haters. They exist, polarized, in seemingly equal numbers, which is almost certainly how Bob Parsons likes it. Mediocrity eventually becomes marginalized, and it’s when people stop talking that there’s cause for concern.

In Parsons’ world, there are no failures – just a variety of steps toward success. Though he’s quick to dismiss any notion of a specific blueprint for PXG, he’s always had a vision – one which is probably much bigger and brighter than whatever you’re picturing. During the grand opening of the Chicago store, Parsons declared, “Hopefully this is the first of many, but I haven’t even started thinking where a second one would go.”

Regardless, PXG is rewriting the rubric for a modern golf luxury. Period.

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Chris is a self-diagnosed equipment and golf junkie with a penchant for top-shelf ice cream. When he's not coaching the local high school team, he's probably on the range or trying to keep up with his wife and seven beautiful daughters. Chris is based out of Fort Collins, CO and his neighbors believe long brown boxes are simply part of his porch decor. "Isn't it funny? The truth just sounds different."

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      Bubble Shaft

      4 years ago

      I just had to google “schadenfreude” for my own sanity. My thesaurus was broken.

      Reply

      Jay T

      5 years ago

      Another great, thoughtful, fact driven, and unbiased article by MGS!

      Reply

      Mike Hunt

      5 years ago

      I feel bad for all those consumers out there that have no clue what they are actually purchasing. When I did my fitting at PXG in Scottsdale they gave me a tour of the facility and what I learned behind the scenes made me instantly regret my purchase. Nobody has a clue that these clubs are manufactured in China with some of the cheapest material they have to offer. Not too mention, their building process skips imperative steps to guaranteeing that the specefication tolerances are as accurate as possible. So not only are you purchasing some of the most expensive clubs on the market, you’re also getting what has been described to me from third party customization companies as “cheap metal from China.” To add, if you’re having those clubs built at PXG hq, then your set is going to be very inconsistent on specs, especially flex of shaft throughout the set. Heck, three of the club builders I spoke to told me they had never even swung a golf club before. Know what you’re getting before you let the influence of marketing and the high mighty dollar influence your purchase.

      Reply

      Alex

      5 years ago

      Don’t get down on yourself.

      Reply

      Ken Joersz

      5 years ago

      Let’s see. PXG gives you a tour and tells you the clubs are made in China out of some of the cheapest material they have to offer? Or are these third party customization parties spreading falsehoods? And you somehow observed clubs not being built to specs? And to top it off you spoke to three club builders? My BS meter is really going off.

      You should name names. Mr. Parsons’ lawyers would love to have a conversation with them and you.

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      Mike

      5 years ago

      When I took the tour of the build shop there were multiple boxes in the receiving area and in the build pods containing both irons and woods that all said they came from China. I asked one club builder how he liked working there and he said it’s really awesome, especially since they took a chance on hiring him even though he had never golfed a day in his life. I responded with “are you serious” and his response was, “oh ya, there’s two or three of us here in that same boat.” I didn’t think much of it until I asked if my set would get the shafts frequency matched and if it was possible to pure my driver shaft. And the fitter explained that they don’t offer either of those options. So when I got my set, I took them to cool clubs and had the shafts frequencied and my flexes were very inconsistent through out the set according to them. After owning the set for about six months I noticed my wedges were starting to pit and rust. I contacted a couple third party companies that restore and refinish wedges and told them my issue and they both told me they have experienced the same issues with PXG clubs especially the milled wedges. One individual who has been re-chromining irons since the 80’s told me he’s only seen clubs made China rust that quickly. He said it’s not the best quality of metal in China. So there it is. Believe it or not I’m just telling you my experience with PXG clubs. I have since sold all of them and moved on. I was just really surprised that some of the most expensive clubs in the world and if built in house they don’t even utilize some pretty standard building practices. If you can afford them and you like a slightly bulkier look then by all means pick up a set. I recommend going to a place like cool clubs or club champion. Feel free to contact them Ken and ask where they manufacturer there heads and ask if they offer all options for building and see if they tell you. I know when I tried contacting them about my wedges I could never get a response from anyone.

      Ken Joersz

      5 years ago

      Club heads made in China or anywhere overseas can be of exceptional quality just like many of the products we purchase here in the United States. Of course, I would like more manufacturing here but hardly any clubmaker, with the exception of Ping, does that. China can and does make great quality products at very reasonable prices. And they do have quality metal just like any other advanced country. They make some of the most sophisticated weaponry in the world. I think they can handle a golf club head. They let you see their boxes from China. They apparently have nothing to hide. Personally, I appreciate the openness.

      The PXG wedges are made of 8620 soft carbon steel. Being a soft metal, they are naturally susceptible to pitting and rusting. I play a soft 1020 carbon steel in my wedges and fully expect them to rust and pit with use. It’s a very small sacrifice for the extraordinary feel/sound I get with this soft metal. I need to replace them more often but I deem it worth the cost.

      Golf experience is not required in the assembly process. I don’t think the people that manufacture scalpels perform surgery in their spare time. What is require is a well-trained staff. You provided no evidence otherwise. So it shouldn’t have been implied.

      I applaud PXG for being so comfortable with their process that they allow you to talk to their production staff. Kudos to them. When I toured Callaway the kept us away from their staff as one might expect. It’s refreshing that PXG allows this interaction because most companies probably would not.

      The inability for you to reach PXG seemed odd so I called PXG and stated that I had wedges that were six months old and rusting and pitting just as you stated. The lady was very pleasant and gave me her email address and asked that I take a photo or two along with my name and the clubs’ serial number. From there, they would recommend how to proceed. The call, from start to finish, took less than three minutes according to my iPhone. Very much worth the time for wedges so expensive. I don’t understand that, if you thought they were defective, this route wasn’t pursued. In fairness, PXG should have been given a chance to make it right. Plus, PXG would have loved to have known customer feedback about their equipment. It makes any company better.

      The most puzzling is that you bought very expensive clubs of which you had serious apprehension in the first place. You had them built in a manner not acceptable to your standards when you could have had it done directly by reputable builders like Club Champions and Cool Clubs who both proudly support and sell. It just seems like you needlessly wasted a lot of money.

      I understand that PXG is an easy target, especially for the third parties you cited. I’m just not so sure they deserve it.

      Spitfisher

      5 years ago

      It seems every industry of consumer goods has a PXG, If I had a spare billion I could do it too.

      Reply

      Ken Joersz

      5 years ago

      No you couldn’t. Most of us would take a billion and turn it into nothing. Mr. Parsons started with nothing and turned it into billions. Respect.

      Reply

      10shot

      5 years ago

      Every sport has their PXG. Play what you want.
      All I say is: If you’re swing PXG, don’t stiff the beer girl…..????????

      Reply

      Jerry

      5 years ago

      When I was growing up in the 60’s. A Buick was as good as a Cadillac but some people wanted the Cadillac because of the status. There is not one person I know who has PXG equipment that can hit those clubs any better than the Callaway or TaylorMade they had before.

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      Brian T

      5 years ago

      You’ve obviously never gone through a club fitting with PXG. The irons have been proven through testing to be superior, but the fitting is where PXG truly differentiates themselves. They leave no stone unturned when it comes to fine tuning every aspect of your clubs to make them fit your swing perfectly. Try a fitting and if you can afford them you will never be disappointed in your investment into your game.

      Vince L

      5 years ago

      What do I think about PXG? I don’t think about them. Just like I don’t think about TM or Ping or anyone else for that matter. Does their club work? More specifically, does it work for me? Everything that every manufacturer puts out is nothing more than hyperbole used to generate hype. Well, I guess there’s one thing I do think about them – the guy with the BS made up voice in the PXG commercials reminds me of that dummy that was going to add “50 yards to your drives” hawking The Hammer driver a few years back.

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      Ken Joersz

      5 years ago

      That voice is Bob Parson’s. He’s far from the “dummy” that you described. That’s how he talks. Nothing made up or phony about the man. What you see is what you get. Of course you pay for it.

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      Alex

      5 years ago

      You sound jealous. God loves you.

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      Ken Joersz

      5 years ago

      This was by far the most accurate and unbiased an article I’ve ever seen on PXG. Fantastic work, Chris.

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      Joey5Picks

      5 years ago

      Seems to me the market for PXG clubs are the same people who buy a $100 Gucci Tshirt when a $15 GAP tee will do

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      Vince L

      5 years ago

      …and you can say the same thing about Honma (but only for the last thirty plus years or so) or XXIO (who have no track record at all BTW)

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      NH Golfer

      5 years ago

      It simply mystifizes me why on earth PXG couldn’t care less about selling their product where 70% of the golf clubs are sold. It’s not 1965 anymore. Good product but their arrogance will ultimately doom them. I’m a golfer that wants to purchase my clubs where I see fit.

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      Jay T

      5 years ago

      So Tesla, too, is then out of question for you? Plenty of specialized shops that sell PXG. Not your local Walmart of course. This (PXG) is a an expensive product, which if not fitted by trained and qualified experts (on that product), would be less useful to you…. Bobby Ray at the local Dicks Sporting goods ain’t gonna be the right guy to fit or sell you a PXG. He can sell you a Wilson sent for $499 though, and that’s fine.

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      Eric Louis

      5 years ago

      As retailers in Switzerland, we love this brand. No other brand has this expensive masculine look and performs as well as PXG. In addition, there are a few golfers in Switzerland whose price horizon for an iron set does not stop at $2000. What our consumers don’t like at all is to pay almost $900 for the driver when it costs $575 in the USA. Nobody understands this logic here. And unfortunately the GEN1 irons are only available in the states… But otherwise? A unique luxury brand (with a fantastic website) that probably won’t disappear as fast as expected in many places.

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      Jay T

      5 years ago

      Interesting, cuz people in the US to some extent, but especially Asia hate paying 20-40% more for Swiss products than you pay in Switzerland or the EU. Rolex, Hublot, you name it, it’s all cheaper in Europe, and Switzerland, thanks to your global price matching on pre vs post tax prices. (-:

      Pricing is a fine game, and ultimately the only thing that matters is the (local) customers’ willingness to pay. Please have a look at the Big Mac index, and tell me again why PXG shouldn’t cost more in Switzerland.

      Just saying…

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      Bubble Shaft

      4 years ago

      That Big Mac Index is pretty cool, thanks.

      Tap In

      5 years ago

      For those that complain that PXG is driving up other OEMs prices, I posit that it could open the door for others like Tour Edge, Ben Hogan, Wilson and Tommy Armour to come take their fair share of the market. They all make good quality products at lower prices. If more golfers were to start playing their equipment the inferiority stigma will diminish and the “Big 5” will come scrambling back in order to not lose their market on both ends of the spectrum. That’s the beauty of a free market, it all balances out eventually based on the consumer and not the business. Thanks MGS for keeping these dialogues going even when they are polarizing.

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      Petey

      5 years ago

      Hi Tap In,
      I disagree. Despite the void in the marketplace, which could be filled by Tour Edge, etc, PXG has raised the floor for the Big 5 in pricing. They are selling the same amount of clubs at a higher price and thus have no reason to reduce prices.

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      Duke

      5 years ago

      I’d rather not buy my clubs from a misogynist who hunts endangered animals for trophies, but that’s just me.

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      Chisag

      5 years ago

      Great read and Parsons is a lot of things, including generous, but com’ on Chris “humble integrity”?

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      Chris Nickel

      5 years ago

      That’s certainly my take after spending a fair bit of time with him on several occasions and speaking with family, staff, tour players and assorted other associates, including several philanthropic efforts which get very little (or no) public attention.

      I’m sure others may disagree, but the man has a quiet integrity about him. Perhaps that would have been a better word choice, but I stand by my assessment.

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      Frank D.

      5 years ago

      I imagine there’s an interesting story behind every start up. However it does nothing to interest me in over-priced clubs that won’t improve the quality of my game any better than lower priced clubs could do. The niche market here is clearly for those who do not consider cost as part of the decision to purchase. Having said that, apparently there are plenty of people out there buying them. It just won’t be me.

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      Edward Toh

      5 years ago

      It drops its Gen 1 PXG price to less than $2000 a set. That is not a brand which wants to position itself as premium should do. LV and GUCCI do not slash the prices of their off-season products.

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      Frank D.

      5 years ago

      If you say so. But that is still $500-$600 more than other major manufacturer brands. Again, if you are good with that, fine. I’m not. It’s a very nice golf club, but it isn’t a game changer for the price.

      Chris Nickel

      5 years ago

      Keep in mind a generation of golf equipment doesn’t cover the same time span as a season of clothing. I’d imagine the Gucci winter collection is now at most a couple of weeks old, whereas PXG’s GEN1 irons were out for three years before being replaced. I’m not as familiar with luxury clothing brands, but I’d have to think there’d be some offloading for product 3 years old.

      Mike

      5 years ago

      Not too mention that Mr Parsons has gone on record multiple times saying he would never ever disount his clubs no matter what. And now here we are, praising a man who goes against his word.

      Jay T

      5 years ago

      By that rationale, I assume you are driving a used Chevy Cavalier? I can assure you a Benz won’t improve your driving either, yet lots of people buy… hmm, mystery!

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      ALBERT M G GARCIA

      5 years ago

      I lay claim to own the first full PXG golf set sold in the Philippines, I was personally fitted by Terry Knowles with Samantha Cebrero in 2015, I still use the full set, except the putter which I use a Guarin Rife EVNROLL ER9. I am very pleased with the decision to get myself ( as a personal present), the PXG clubs when it was launched. Congratuations to the Bob Parson and the PXG Family. Albert M G Garcia

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      Dennish

      5 years ago

      Great article about a great company! I am a disabled vet who still loves to play. I went to the local big boxes looking for new irons, I got the normal 20 minute fitting. My local club that I’m a member of doesn’t have LH demo equipment. I then found out that I had just missed a PXG fitting that day. My Pro gave me the local PXG rep’s cell # . I called him and he came back on a Monday, the course is closed on Monday and did a fitting just for me. He spent over 2 hours with me making sure we got everything just right. I have never been treated better at a fitting and this is with me paying at the Veteran discount price. I was treated just like a $3K paying customer. I love the company and the clubs, they are sweet. Thank you Bob Parsons and your PXG staff.

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      AC

      5 years ago

      That was my experience as well. Great product and very cool people working for them. I couldn’t be happier.

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      Bucky CC

      5 years ago

      MGS: How in the heck are we supposed to compete against the NCAA tournament?
      Answer: Write up an article on PXG!

      All kidding aside, PXG does make a rock solid product. Went through a fitting at Club Champion this winter and the 0341 fairway was clearly the winner. Can’t wait for spring to come and take it out on the course.

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      Petey

      5 years ago

      I give Mr. Parsons credit for being a smart businessman. He marketed his clubs well and has carved a niche for his company. However, the problem with PXG is that it has driven up the prices for all clubs. At some point, which clearly has not yet been reached, the pricing for the overall golf industry is not sustainable. “Average” 8 pc iron sets, which retailed for $699 to $799 just prior to PXG’s launch, are now $899 to $1100,. “Average” drivers have climbed from $299 to over $500.
      I dislike PXG because it has made my hobby of trying out new gear from other manufacturers prohibitively expensive. Sigh.

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      Chris Nickel

      5 years ago

      Another way to look at it is anytime there’s a uniform increase in prices, it almost always leaves something of a void in the market. My hunch would be it’s only a matter of time before some OEMs start exploiting that.

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      Andrew Han

      5 years ago

      Or spur up companies like 2nd Swing, GlobalGolf, Rockbottom, and such. Most of the price complaints seems to stem from envy.

      If it really is the indian and not the arrow, who gives a shit if it is used or not. Callaway can come with Flash prime and Flash dime, and people will still complain about the prime price.

      People forget that golf is a hobby and a business. Not a need, but a want. Prices increase because the market is supporting it. With that said, wish retailers have more say in pricing, otherwise, golf shop is a golf shop. Who has more clothes/accessories and hitting bays are the differentiation.

      Petey

      5 years ago

      Hi Mr. Nickel,
      First, PXG are fine, albeit, overpriced clubs. Mr. Parsons was smart in his marketing strategy by selecting his price point and he avoided what befell Nike. If he would’ve come out at a conventional price point, PXG would’ve been just another golf company struggling for a piece of the pie.
      However, while other OEMs, e.g., Tour Edge, can take advantage of the void in lower priced clubs for a certain segment of consumer, PXG’s pricing model has raised the floor for the pricing model of the Big 5 OEM. If a golfer wants products from from the BIg 5, he or she is now going to pay more because of what PXG has done to pricing. The Big 5 are not going to suddenly reduce their prices. It is really unfortunate. And that’s why I am not a fan.

      Frank

      5 years ago

      I evaluate irons ( way to many I might add) as how they look behind the ball as the first test, no matter what the noise is around this brand to me the irons look great and “hitable “ given that I am a PXG fan but only because of the design and playability. Appreciate the insight from the article as to what’s behind product.

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      Steve

      5 years ago

      I really enjoyed the read, so thanks for the effort. I wonder of the people who resent PXG for their price point will watch The Masters this year?? Seems to me that membership at Augusta National is awarded to only a privileged few. That doesn’t stop us from watching no matter our income levels. XXIO has driver selling for $800. I can choose to buy it or keep my wallet in my pocket. But as a capitalist, I welcome more to the party if they can survive the rigor of a brutal business.

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      Danielle

      5 years ago

      Well written article that finally gets some depth behind a discussion of PXG. Love what they’re doing technology-wise, and also with their support of the LPGA and women’s college teams. I own a set of PXG irons and love them. Will definitely try the PXG 0311XF driver soon. I don’t care what clubs others play.

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      ComeOnSense

      5 years ago

      “continues to spread” Yes it is, spreading the greed and higher prices inspiring all the other manufacturers to do the same which they are starting to do so. I understand PXG business model ,but unfortunately, it is driving the golf market in a negative way and not growing the game. At the same time driving away more players( because we have to many, sarcasm) with these ridiculous prices. We’re not forced to buy new clubs , but you CAN NOT argue that these bendover prices discourage people from golf. And after 2 years now, are you going to tell me that people using PXG are in a league of their own? Where they improved so much that makes these clubs prices worth disrupting the golf market prices?No is NOT.
      And please please, stop using The Marines as a cute excuse. No real Marine will stab his own people.

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      Horatio Algiers

      5 years ago

      3 x the price for ugly, stuck up clubs (irons)? Yeah, I don’t think so. That Gen2 driver …. well now … best looking stick out there. If it sounds and feels and performs as good as it looks, I’d bag it. But those irons?! Yech. I think most customers aren’t golf snobs, rather just “look at me” masters of the universe types. Those who have $$ and are players most likely would go with something like Miura. Or national custom works (New company, forging sexy blades just for you.)

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      Tubedude

      5 years ago

      First off, I’m very certain that Parsons is a pretty good guy like most on earth. That said, their effect on the cost of golf for all levels is probably the main reason people hate PXG. Once the “big brands”see people will pay $300+ per iron, they immediately have “justification” to step up the club prices and their profit margins.

      Personally, I’ve hit their clubs and putters before and only found one putter I could bag (regardless of price). Beyond that, I didn’t see any significant distance or accuracy gains compared to my MP-4’s or my 2012 Apex MB irons. I buy based on results and not on brand status which explains going from an expensive to repair Audi to a Prius.

      PXG, in my mind, is like the “exotic” car makers of the world (Lambo, Bugatti, etc): really interesting to take for a test drive, but lack in real world bang for the buck.

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      Andrew Han

      5 years ago

      On your last sentence, yeah right. You might be that person, but even if you don’t redline your cars, those exotics, I imagine, are fun to drive and own. It’s the exclusivity and the performance. That comments sounds like the guy that owns a civic, modifies it with 10k worth of parts, but trashes the M3. You really want the M3 deep down.

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      Frank D.

      5 years ago

      The thing is, all legal golf clubs fall within USGA conforming standards, soooo, do you really want to pay the big bucks for a Bugatti, or an M3 that has a governor on it? It may look good but it doesn’t significantly outperform the others. I suppose if money wasn’t an issue, of course you would.

      Mike Reed

      5 years ago

      If Bob is such a “people person” perhaps he needs to also offer a line of clubs for the starting/beginning player. A much more inexpensive, smaller, starter set for those just exploring the game. Ping has done this in their junior offerings and have built many loyal customers. Since Bob has stolen several of the Ping people, he needs to follow the lead of Ping in this area.

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      Lando

      5 years ago

      I think you totally missed the point of the article.

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      Chris Nickel

      5 years ago

      What would be his incentive to do so? Perhaps if he wants to get into the “beginning/junior” market he could certainly look to go this route, but I don’t see Parsons doing something just because someone else did.

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      Doug

      5 years ago

      Good write up. I have to say that I’ve tried a few PXG clubs here and there that make it into trade bins, and they are definitely good clubs. Do they warrant the price tag, I don’t know, but they do to some people, and maybe that’s all that matters. I do like a lot of what I hear about how Parsons treats his staff, and I’ve been well aware of his affinity for Marines and armed forces, which he offers fantastic discounts to. I’m not sure that Taylormade or Titleist reps are making too many efforts to have chit chats with their tour players unless they bagged a trophy.

      I think the only thing that needles me is the attitude towards the price of his equipment, and what comes off as belittling to anyone who doesn’t have PXG money. Notably, there are numerous contemporary brands with a heavy price tag, such as Miura or maybe even Bettinardi, but culturally there’s just a much more reserved and subtle tact to their existence… they are what they are, and I think we all generally accept that.

      PXG equipment is too expensive… for me, but I don’t take exception to that, and I don’t think anyone should hate them just because of their price. If I had the money, yeah, I’d be lying if I said that I wouldn’t at least be more interested. I’m honestly more disappointed with the baseline industry and how they’ve gravitated to a higher price point just because (seemingly) there’s an opportunity to elevate the price floor of the industry, which is slowly hurting it.

      It’s been a short time, but I think that Parsons has shown that his model has legs, and I think that he’ll continue to have a good following in his particular circle as long as he stays relevant. What I really hope is that now that he’s kind of proven his point, that he will put forth R&D to find a more happy medium toward the cross section of golfer that offers the same performance in a more palatable price range for most. If he can do that, I think a lot of people will invite him to be the loudest bragger in the room!

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      Mark

      5 years ago

      I love how people try to justify overpaying for golf equipment, I also notice that most of the big name pros have not won like they used to when using other brands. Maybe PXG is overrated?

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      Todd Bonsang

      5 years ago

      I currently swing Callaway Epics and just custom ordered a set of Mizuno MP 18 and I’ve never been happier. This Parsons guy is quite impressive and seems like a really great person to know. I’m totally wanting to try a set of these 0311 irons but only can find them online. I won’t pay that kind of money for something I can’t even try, nor am I waiting behind a red velvet rope to try them either. Accessibility would be key, I understand that the elite don’t need the meek but that doesn’t mean that common folk wouldn’t buy these. I would, but I need accessibility. Great article

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      HDTVMAN

      5 years ago

      Excellent article and Parson’s humanity is there with Karsten Solheim and Ely Callaway. With this great economy, The “PXG Effect” is effecting everyone, just like the luxury automobile industry. Lexus, Mercedes, BMW…selling like hot cakes and driving up the cost of ALL vehicles. Golf manufacturers have raised prices to where a new set of 8-irons, which you must buy for fitting purposes, is now $899-$999 for the basic game-improvement irons. This is up from $799 two years ago. Driver’s have gone from $399 to $549 in the same period. Putter’s from Odyssey are now up to $500! Sure, you can find a cheaper one, but if you want the latest and greatest it will cost. Customer’s are getting hit with “sticker shock”. TaylorMade even has an “upgrade” program on their website, which I compare to “Rent To Own”. Pick your clubs for 12 or 24 month payments, then upgrade to the new models…of course, you are ALWAYS PAYING for your clubs…like a “Timeshare”, it’s never ending! I wonder if TM has furniture, TV’s, and appliances too!

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      Mike Wray

      5 years ago

      I just purchased the PXG 0311 58, 56, and 50 degree wedges through the veterans program. The price was reasonable but most important was how well these clubs performed. I’m waiting patiently for PXG to offer the GEN 2 irons to the veterans. You may pay more for these clubs but they are well worth the money.

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      bottom line

      5 years ago

      Hearing folks complain about price point is like people complaining that Roll Royce is creating automobiles..

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      Richard Gratton

      5 years ago

      Great article on this company and brand. Unfortunately their busines model will not be suitable in the long run.

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      Tony Covey

      5 years ago

      That’s one opinion, and like any other business, it stands to reason that PXG will adapt and change its model over time. That said, there were plenty who said PXG wouldn’t survive one year, or two, or three…and yet, here we are.

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      Chris Nickel

      5 years ago

      Thanks, Richard. That’s been a common critique since PXG started, but given Parson’s portfolio and financial situation, I have to believe PXG will be around for as long as he wants it to.

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      Mark

      5 years ago

      As a retailer who has contacted them, I have to say I am dissapointed. What is required to bring in to be a fitting account is a joke as far as price compared to every other brand, including XXIO. Other retailers have told me the only way to make money on the product is to buy the heads and do the shafting yourself as the margins are awful. We have a few customers who have purchased from fitting days they do at country clubs and every one says the same thing. Nice irons, probably overpriced for what you get but I wanted to have them because they are considered the best. I have hit them many times. Great clubs, but no better than anything else on the market that you can get for less. I am sure they will continue to make inroads into this industry. More power to them. But as a whole the company has left me flat with the way they conduct business with retailers.

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      Darth Bourgeois

      5 years ago

      That’s interesting. I wondered why my local shop only stocked the heads.

      TR1PTIK

      5 years ago

      I’ve probably complained about PXG’s price point a time or two, but I like what they’re doing. If I had the money, I’d certainly give them a try at the very least. I really enjoyed reading this – especially the tour players’ perspectives. More please! :)

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      THOMAS

      5 years ago

      Chris, I compliment you on your excellent article and writing skills
      Very very informative. Excellent knowledge. Keep it up

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      Chris Nickel

      5 years ago

      Thomas – I have to apologize. I wasn’t prepared for comments sans vitriol. Thanks for the read!

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      ZSJ

      5 years ago

      Great read. Way too pricey and advanced for my game right now but once that daycare expense goes away and my game improves I’d love a set.

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      Daymon

      5 years ago

      Used to be a PXG hater. I preceived what they were doing was catering to the rich old guy at my club, and no one else.

      Then, I tried a 0311X driver last year, and absolutely LOVED it. I started to sway a little. Recently, I picked up a 0317X hybrid, and it’s easily and without question, the single best hybrid I have ever hit. I’ve been swayed a little more.

      I will eventually try a set of PXG irons. Hell, maybe even later this year.

      However, I am currently gaming a brand that is basically the polar opposite of PXG’s “elite” model. Great clubs at a price literally everyone can afford, and I’ve been absolutely shocked at how good these irons are. The best forging I have ever hit is the Miura CB501, followed by the MP14, then MP32. These 639CB irons feel every bit as good as the MP14, and they’re roughly $100 per club. You should check them out. http://www.golfsub70.com

      Anyway, I admire Bob Parsons, who he is, what he does and how he does it. I feel like PXG is the upper echelon, even above Titleist. Which of the stateside brands, was clearly the class of all of them. And the thing is, I think PXG’s stuff is actually better, in some aspects.

      Like I said, I used to be an Anti-PXG kind of dude. That’s changed though, and it’s changed based solely on performance. If PXG keeps making stuff as good as it appears they may, everyone will eventually be on board. For me, the Driver and Hybrid are ridiculously good.

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      TC

      5 years ago

      Great article Chris.

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      Jeff Shelman

      5 years ago

      I was fitted for Gen2 XF irons last year after hating the total lack of feel of the Ping G700 irons. They have been really good for me – they go high and straight and feel great – and I haven’t considered anything since (and I like clubs).

      But they really gained my trust when it came to drivers.

      I did a fitting last summer and again earlier this winter when the Gen2 drivers came out. Both felt good and both performed all right. But the reality for me was that it wasn’t significantly better than the Titleist TS3 that is currently in my bag.

      My PXG fitter simply said this, “You are getting a lot out of your current driver and I can’t find anything right now that is worth having you upgrade. I’d love to you have you in all of our clubs, but it isn’t worth you spending your money right now.”

      Them not pushing me to buy something earned my trust. I’m excited to hit the fairway woods and hybrids (and maybe wedges) this spring when conditions get better.

      I trust PXG and am more likely to buy their products moving forward.

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      David Couvillon

      5 years ago

      I had the same experience when I got fitted for my 0811 Driver! The rep told me I had a great set of irons (Mizuno Forged) that fit me and didn’t see where I’d gain anything with the PXG products. I am, however, going to pull the trigger on a PXG hybrid soon…

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      Keith

      5 years ago

      As a retired veteran and a guy who is carrying PXG from putter to driver (At the discounted Hero price point) I love this brand. I’m a 50 year old so i may not be the target audience here, but these perform for me. Would I have paid full price, I doubt it, will I go back to the mainstream…not likely.

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      shortside

      5 years ago

      How do you not like “family first”?. Yes most bellyache about the price. Personally I’ve never been a fan of all the screws from the first time I laid eyes on them. That said if I could throw darts with them like no other I’d get over it in a hurry. Then figure out how I was going pay for ’em.

      Followed by more cocktails than I need.

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      Joe Conroy

      5 years ago

      It’s not whether they paid you but how much. Beyond puff piece and into fawning obsequiousness. Not one piece of objective performance data. Used to respect this site’s credibility. Now even totally “objective” performance based writing will be taken with a big grain of salt.

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      Tony Covey

      5 years ago

      LOLZ

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      BenEagles

      5 years ago

      Lol at your own risk Tony. Advertorial has killed many before ye.

      Tony Covey

      5 years ago

      It absolutely has, but this isn’t an advertorial. We’ve written similar stories about other brands, but it’s always PXG that brings out the accusations. It’s not the content, it’s the brand being discussed. It’s your bias, not ours.

      Andrew

      5 years ago

      God Chris, you’re not confirming this guy’s hatred/bias. What’s wrong with you? He’s only interested in articles that make him right!

      BenEagles

      5 years ago

      No bias at all Tony. I’m very happy for my clubfitter because he’s making a mint off PXGs. I just don’t hit them as well as my Yonex Ezone blades. If I hit them better I’d own them. The article reads as advertorial which is dangerous territory for you. No bias just my opinion.

      BenEagles

      5 years ago

      And it’s not the brand. I recall a Wilson article that read the same way a whole back and I said it then as well.

      Dave

      5 years ago

      I’m old enough to remember when Kenneth Smith was the PXG of its day. Elitist. This too shall pass.

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      Keith Lawrence

      5 years ago

      As a retired veteran and a guy who is carrying PXG from putter to driver (At the discounted Hero price point) I love this brand. I’m a 50 year old so i may not be the target audience here, but these perform for me. Would I have paid full price, I doubt it, will i go back to the mainstream…not likely.

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      Steve S

      5 years ago

      Golfers are a strange lot. I don’t know any car guys that get animated about Maserati, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Jaguar, etc. because they are out of their price range and targeted to the rich. They admire the technology and “jones” over the chance for a test drive.

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      BenEagles

      5 years ago

      I’ve hit them. They are golf clubs. They don’t go any better than any other high quality set. There is no analogy between a Bugatti and a Buick. Any jabloney can go hit them at their local fitter.

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      Dave

      5 years ago

      Great article with an enlightening view of Parsons the person. Thanks for the read!

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      Steve

      5 years ago

      I will never pay that much for a set of clubs PXG or other because I know they will not improve my game. It is nothing but an ego trip with a bunch of fellow player snickering behind your back for being such an idiot. Spend some money on lessons, go out and have a good time.

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      Michael Pasvantis

      5 years ago

      Regardless of how you feel about pxg it is a polarizing brand. I’m not a fan of the high price as I believe the club is only as good as the swing you put on it. It’s not like shanks are any more beautiful coming off a pxg club versus any other club.
      I will give credit to what Parsons has done though. He is basically forcing you to get custom fit. You can’t simply walk into any golf shop and pick up pxg’s in their stock offering because there is no stock offering. He is basically setting you up for success which buyers of the pxg will then translate into “these clubs are great”. He has exploited on the fact that most people don’t get fit, and only buy the stock offerings. Often times in big box stores, even if you do go through a fitting, the “fitter” (actually in this case more of a salesperson) will still try and push the stock offering over the fitting recommendations because that moves inventory and that also comes with a higher commission. When this issue is finally dealt with then and only then will Parsons advantage be nullified. Great article.

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      Trev

      5 years ago

      Yep lots of boutique makers have been doing this for a very long time. You can get lofts of 5 up or down, whatever weight you want, blah blah. Parsons maybe commercialized it with marketing. But, still people aren’t being fit. Proper fitting comes from someone that understands the swing and can see if an adjustment will help your swing be more balanced. A bad “fitting” condemns you to that swing forever. That’s why people used to buy your clubs from a place called the “pro-shop.”. They used to only be sold by pros. Now sold by anyone claiming that ” trying” a club is fitting. There is a long way to go yet and many hand builders that are doing it right. My prediction, the success of this industry lies in the return of the pros selling clubs and not trying to sell them to move product. This is just my opinion though, so take from it what you will.

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      Mark

      5 years ago

      in the beginning I would say yes about the fitting, but you can order online off their website now without ever getting fit.

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      HDTVMAN

      5 years ago

      Unfortunately, many, not most fitters at Big Box Stores are salesmen with absolutely no training. The customer always needs to question the fitters background. I was hired at a BB store and given zero training by a manager who was only concerned with turning his stock, pushing store credit cards, and making his bonus. I went to So CA on my own and visited Callaway, TaylorMade, Titleist, Mitsubishi, Cameron, and learned fitting from the pros who do it everyday for customers and professionals. Now I enjoy fitting and do it well. It would be interesting for MyGolfSpy to do an article on fitting, speaking to fitters, studying their backgrounds, and learning if they have they ever been properly trained. It’s sad that BB Stores have forced the smaller Pro Shops to close.

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      Dave

      5 years ago

      What I find interesting is I have 3 guys that have all bought at least a full set of PXG irons. I was looking at one man’s set the other day and I noticed he was hitting everything on the toe. I told him he should go back to his fitter because he’ll either bend the club or am I wrong that all the little screws are weighted allowing the fitter to ultra fine tune these irons?

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      Cameron

      5 years ago

      The screws are permanent in the irons, and are inserted during the manufacturing process. But you are correct, the player should contact the fitter and have his adjusted – they do offer that as a service.

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      BenEagles

      5 years ago

      Roll of Lead tape. There. Just saved you a few grand.

      skip

      5 years ago

      hitting it on the toe doesn’t necessarily mean he needs the clubs bent.

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      HDTVMAN

      5 years ago

      Could be his swing, stance, or club length. See a pro before adjusting the clubs.

      BenEagles

      5 years ago

      Unbelievably Shill-y article. You lost me when decided to quote the vile disgusting Sarah Silverman.

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      Tony Covey

      5 years ago

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      Judge Smails

      5 years ago

      You! You! You are no gentlemen!

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      Rob

      5 years ago

      Great read with a lot of depth to it. Nice job Chris.

      Parsons is a lighting rod and one that I personally think has been good for the industry and in particular the consumer. While the average golfer most likely can’t afford a full bag of PXG, it’s forced other OEM’s to step up their games and not just muddle through with the status quo.

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      Ken Holland

      5 years ago

      This! Spot on.

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      Jim Haynes

      5 years ago

      I find it rather disingenuous to imply that TaylorMade stole PXG’s technology vs the other side. The fact is most of us golfers will never be able to afford a PXG set of clubs and for that matter the supposed technology difference regardless of whether your rich or not , is not so earth shattering it makes you jump out of your seat to think you need a set. I’m sure Mr. Parsons doesn’t care about us regular folks, but I’ve played golf since I was 8, and all the money the world doesn’t make you a better player, only time does, so I’d suggest people spend the money on lessons instead of equipment and go shoot a 75 with the rack clubs you paid 1000 dollars for , and play about 40 rounds of golf for the price of one set of irons that will not make a hill of beans difference. It’s the same with golf balls, I’ve shot 74 with a Balata ball, and a 74 with a Dunlop special ball it’s ability not equipment.

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      mark

      5 years ago

      I know it’s politically incorrect, “It’s the Indian not the Arrow” when it comes to a golfer and his/her equipment. I’d like to find another analogy, so people wouldn’t raise their eyebrow at me.

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      David

      5 years ago

      How about …the archer not the arrow.

      Funkaholic

      5 years ago

      Settle down grandpa, people can enjoy the game and the gear any way they please. You just sound bitter.

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      Aivo

      5 years ago

      TMvs PXG, who was to the market first seems to provide the answer, i can’t see TM having a “superior technology” and not making a buck on it ASAP. Wish I would have had this read before doing the recent OEM one word survey. Puts a perspective on what Parsons is all about and at the same time a valid critique of the others with a new “best, longest, most forgiving, etc.” literally every year, or less! Not saying that honesty and integrity in the man makes his clubs the ones you should play just a refreshing change from what we are currently submerged in. For the record I did include the PXG in my evaluation for a new driver but walked away with the TS2, and not much cheaper!

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      MikeG

      5 years ago

      Wow, incredible read and great insight. Would be nice for the haters like myself once, to read this.

      In 2016, I looked at PXG as this arrogant company who would never receive my dollar for no real reason other than jealousy of not being able to truly afford it.

      However, theirs something to be said about a company who has true core values as well as not having 6 mo- 1 yr product cycles that throws the consumer into a never ending cycle of upgrading.

      Ironically, I have a fitting set up in a few weeks with PXG (something I wouldve scoffed at in 16′)

      Even if I wind up not getting into these clubs, I really enjoy what there doing.

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