Titleist T400 Iron
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Titleist T400 Iron

Titleist T400 Iron

The new T100•S might have caught us a bit flat-footed but Titleist T400 iron is the one we’ve been waiting for. If you’re a serious golfer with a penchant for big irons, it could be the one you’re waiting for, too. Titleist has finally created a legitimate super game-improvement iron.

Finally.

Offering something (at this point, anything) for the SGI crowd is just good business but Titleist says T400 was inspired by what’s happening in Japan and other parts of Asia. You think lofts are jacked in your neighborhood? On the other side of the globe, what are being described as Super Distance Irons have taken hold.

Insanity, people.

Strong lofts notwithstanding, you can think of T400 as the reimagination of TMB. That means it’s also a bit like a full-set adaption of the U•510 utility. Titleist took a big, deep, wide-bodied iron and tweaked it to suit a different type of golfer. I should probably mention that part of the reimagination process was to improve the sound and feel (compared to U•510), particularly on the off-center strikes that are anything but uncommon for the target golfer.

U •510 off-center doesn’t suit anybody.

I digress.

Look Small(er), Play Big

All of this might sound like a recipe for the kind of massively oversized shovels our readers sometimes rail against, but Titleist says T400 maybe isn’t as big as you’d expect and, for some golfers, maybe not as big as you want. It’s big, but hopefully not so big that you’ll forget it’s a Titleist.

That’s no small detail. A good bit of Titleist’s reputation – and in recent times, its entire reputation – is built on its appeal to better golfers. T400 is part of a larger effort to subtly shift perceptions away from Titleist as a brand for elite golfers to Titleist as a brand for serious avid golfers. You don’t need to be a better player to play Titleist.

The company seems to have come to terms with the reality that all the tour use in the world won’t change the fact that game-improvement is where the money is made. T300 is Titleist’s best-selling iron so there’s logic in extending the lineup to reach the golfer looking for even more Far-Giveness.

That’s Titleist’s word, not mine. I’d ask that you not hold it against them, or me for that matter.

Here’s what it looks like on paper.

Prepare Yourselves

titleist t400 lofts

Go big or go home, right?

Please suspend your outrage (over both the lofts and the Far-Giveness thing) long enough to read (or re-read) my thoughts on loft-jacking from our T100•S story. The relevant piece is that static loft seldom paints a complete picture. I understand you’re concerned that hitting low-launching “super distance”-inspired worm burners that skip over the green on their way to whatever lies beyond doesn’t exactly sound like golf the way it’s meant to be played, but Titleist says all of that is accounted for in the design.

The expectation is that spin rates will be about one club less but you’ll make up for it with a steeper landing angle.

Disclaimer: Everybody says that about their strong-lofted irons. And yeah…4-6° stronger lofts than what’s typical for the category is a lot to overcome.

Here’s how Titleist says it’s done it.

Split Sole Design

To drive centers of gravity low to promote higher launch, higher peak heights and those steeper descent angles (green-stopping power), all while saving the worm population, Titleist has put a massive amount of tungsten – up to 100g depending on loft – in the sole of the club.

While the transition from the leading edge to the hump is more aggressive, it’s not entirely dissimilar from Cobra’s Speedback. (Shrug emoji/good design travels.) As with Cobra’s offering, Titleist’s Split Sole design pushes the center of gravity even lower and provides a little extra help getting through the turf.

A deep body combined with more weight in the sole means more dynamic loft for the given static loft. It’s the reason Titleist says golfers who demo T400 will find that it launches similarly or better than a normal 7-iron. You can rant and rave and discount it entirely or you can spend 10 minutes hitting them and then decide. Your call. I’m good either way.

“It launches really high and far and it’s fun to hit,” says Josh Talge, VP of Marketing for Titleist Golf Clubs. What more can the super game-improvement player ask for?

Not that I’m convinced any of you care what the face of your irons is made from, but I’ll go ahead and let you know that Titleist is again using a forged SUP-10 L-Face insert that’s around 1.9mm thick. Details.

Other than an eye-popping 38° pitching wedge, the oddity here may be the 4-6° gaps on the short end of the set. That’s undoubtedly a bit wider than you’re likely accustomed to but Talge says it’s about designing for the speed of the target player. If you’re a moderate (i.e., slow) swing-speed player, it should work really well. If you’re a faster swing-speed player, the bigger gaps will likely be a problem. Sorry, T400 isn’t for you.

Pricing and Availability

Retail price for the Titleist T400 Irons is $185.70 per club ($1299/7-piece set) in steel and $199/$1399 for graphite. The stock steel shaft is the True Temper AMT Red. The graphite option is a Mitsubishi Fubuki MV IR 50g/45g (ladies). The stock grip is Golf Pride’s Tour Velvet 360 Lite+.

Availability in the Sun Belt begins February 1. Full US availability begins March 27.

For more information, visit Titleist.com.

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      WBN

      12 months ago

      Why is all the concern about lofts and not about performance results? If the number on the bottom of the club bothers you just put a piece of tape over it and write the yardage on the tape. I care more about the results I get from the club instead of the number on the bottom.

      Reply

      MP

      3 years ago

      I was fit into these irons.
      I went to the fitting due to not being able to launch my AP’s high enough and was lacking spin. I couldn’t hold a green at all.
      At least with these I gained a bit. of distance, (but that was not what I was after), gained height and about 1000 more RPMs with the 6 iron.
      The dynamic lofts are what I was looking for, disregarding the static lofts.

      Reply

      Steve

      3 years ago

      The T400’s are just plain awesome- especially in my experience in the 150-200 yard range (9-6 iron for me with these) which is where I sometimes struggle with consistency (11 HCP, driver speed 92-95). The high launch “window” you hear about is absolutely true. They launch higher then my GI Pings did. The engineering flat works. I don’t get the outrage over the loft jacking- who cares? Lets just put the loft numbers on the clubs if it makes folks feel better.

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      Manny

      4 years ago

      Just played with my T400s today – they are long and accurate. Hit them for the first time 45 mins before playing – only issue was trying to figure out length compared to former club. First graphite irons played, weight and speed was noticeable while maintaining feel!

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      JohnK

      4 years ago

      Not sure if I would personally game the whole set but will not begrudge anyone who chooses to do so. I may entertain the idea of using a couple of the mid irons. SO tired of hearing everyone whine about the lofts though. If you don’t like them Titleist has many other options to choose from.

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      RSeg

      4 years ago

      I get the increase in loft gap for slower swing players but what I dont get is why that disappears on the 8-5 irons? suddenly they can manage 3* gaps on the “long” irons? If that were true, maintain the 6* gap on the long irons and eliminate 2 clubs. Coincidentally it matches the 2 gap wedges they are adding… LOL

      PW -49*
      9I – 43*
      8I – 37*
      7I – 31*
      6I – 25*
      5I – 19*

      And pitch forks would be drawn down. All this started because you only get fit for the 7I

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      24Linc

      4 years ago

      Right on the point. Why do they need 3 or even 2 degree gaps in the long irons and think they will have good gaping? Plus long irons are supposed to be harder to hit hence a well struck 6 will go further than a mishit 5 much easily if they have such little loft gap.
      In my opinion the clubs are designed with great engineering and forgiveness (let’s forget about loft jacking) but the sales and marketing people won’t be happy if they start selling 5 piece iron sets and then add hybrids in, they would loose too much sale.

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      JC

      4 years ago

      @Jon

      “I think you might be missing the point here.”

      Dude….you exactly repeated my point, and validated it. Calling an 8 iron or a 7 iron a PW does nothing to help the actual shot capability or scoring for any player of any capability. 6 degree loft gaps don’t help. Until some neutral party provides testing confirming that all the voodoo creates useful shot spacing at specific swings speeds it’s more doodoo than voodoo.

      What you’re really saying is that you’re as willing to con yourself as the club companies are willing to con you. No more, no less.

      #facepalm

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      Martin

      4 years ago

      If this is successful for the recreational golfer which the Titleist T400 should be. You will start to see other manufactures follow suite. Some vendors in there max series already have a PW around 43 and 9 iron at 38 . From the golfers i see most want to hit the ball farther, but do not take into effect the lofts of the irons.. They know about what they currently hit there 8 iron at and see the new iron hit about 10-15 yards farther. OEM know what the mass want to see and they try to cater to that. When you look at OEM none max irons irons they are strong lofted as well.

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      Jacob Pentz

      4 years ago

      The loft idea seems extreme, but if it works I dont care. I’ll take any legal edge i can to lower my score, but @$200 an iron I wont be looking to have these in my bag anytime soon

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      Brandon

      4 years ago

      What is the point of calling a 20 degree iron a 5 iron? Pouring milk on my dog doesn’t turn her into a bowl of cereal, she is just a dog covered in milk, just like a 20 degree iron that say 5 on it is a 3 iron.

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      Trekky

      4 years ago

      True, if someone can’t hit a 3 iron, stamping it as a 5 iron does not change the outcome.

      Reply

      Golf

      4 years ago

      Yeh… but they’re not taking a blade and changing it from a 3 to a 5 iron. Stamping a 3 iron with a 5 would not make a difference but stamping it with a 5 and then… shortening and choosing a better shaft and completely changing the design of the head probably would (i.e. lowering CG to produce launch, putting in a low kick point shaft (AMT red), larger club face to make sure you hit something, etc).

      Dan

      4 years ago

      I imagine there is a metal side to it. Also if they are making a 3 iron that flies like a 5 iron with some height and call it a 5 iron , I can’t see that as a bad thing

      NH Golfer

      4 years ago

      I’m quite sure somebody will care about this set. Not me.

      Reply

      JC

      4 years ago

      It seems that the club companies (and media) like to justify the absurd loft arrangement of clubs in the SGI (sucker game improvement) category with talk of how all the magical and mystical tech in them create useful distance spacing.

      Has any independent testing been done to evaluate this?

      Here’s your chance MGS.
      Show everyone what you’re made of!

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      Carter Stroup

      4 years ago

      The loft of the pitching wedge is the same loft as my 8 iron!!!! I think Titleist might have taken it too far on this one.

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      Bob

      4 years ago

      I agree. I think they have succumb to feeding the egos of their target market.

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      Mike

      4 years ago

      Starting to think companies should change 9 iron, 7 iron, … or loft numbers stamped onto clubs to “120 yard shot”, “160 yard shot”, … This would get rid of the arguments loft jacking and concentrate more on what clubs actually work best.

      I game Adams New Idea — 9 iron is 39 degrees — (due for a change soon) and if these improve my game why wouldn’t I get these?!?

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      Dan

      4 years ago

      Yeah but that is completely subjective to the player that uses the club. Telling someone how far a club should go is a bad idea especially in the super game improvement sector. When a person pulls their “160 yard” club and it goes 140 or 170, they would call the iron defective.

      I have no problem with the loft jacking if someone hits a 7 iron the same loft as my 5 iron and still hits it high and soft like a 7 why would I care? Why would I care if my newish playing partner brags about hitting their 6 iron 200. I guess I dont understand why better players are offended by jacked up lofts for new players. If the tech allows them to hit it higher softer and longer, and it keeps pace of play moving due to less worm burners into hazards, why get upset?

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      Willie T

      4 years ago

      Nice looking clubs and I can see where they will find their way into many a bag. For me, I tend to think 38deg for a PW is just saying that my “old” 36deg 7i 845s Silver Scot is now living in PW territory. I tend to base my shot lengths on the club loft rather than the number on the sole. Even now with the Diablo Egde irons in my bag the 36deg 8i is now a PW…. I like that the mfg’s are looking on how to get folks to hit farther and soothe egos. In reality its not about the loft angle/number on the club sole plate but rather about how much we enjoy the game. If jacked lofts and improved CG’s make that happen then life is good.

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      Henry

      4 years ago

      Tony, love the article. I’ll read pretty much anything that you publish just because I feel like you’ve done your due diligence in researching the product at hand. I believe that these irons will help a certain group of players just like I believe that true blades will help another group. Having options is GOOD! I wonder however how long we are going to play the game of putting numbers on the bottom of our golf clubs instead of just lofts. Is it just pandering to a guys ego when he steps up with pitching wedge that is almost the same loft as a traditional 7-8 iron and whacks it 160yds? Would it really make that much of a difference if they just printed 38* on the bottom of the club?? who knows but I think Titleist will be just fine with these because there is always someone out there who is looking for those extra yds!

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      Simon

      4 years ago

      I agree with you at some extent, Nick… after all… most Companies have succumbed to wedges that are 50/52/56/60 etc (as opposed to gap, sand, and lob)… that being said, I think most replying here have missed a key component on what titleist has done and WHOM they are catering to… as stated in the article… “if you have a moderate (SLOW) club speed, the club will work for you… now I consider myself to have a “moderate” club head speed @80 mph …. however, as that turns out… MY definition of “moderate” and the golf industry’s are different …. 60-70 mph club head speed would be considered slow…hence the lower lifts would GIVE the typical 7 iron 150 yard distance (even though YES, I would agree, it is the loft of a 5 iron)…
      point is, I think they are trying to cater to a SPECIFIC golfer… (slow club head speed) that… as you say, settles egos.

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      Dan

      4 years ago

      I think part of it is ego, but I also think part of is mental. For alot of players, they feel its much easier to hit a higher lofted iron. Stepping up to a 170 yard shot and hitting an 8 or a 9 probably is a big confidence boost. Also I imagine most people hitting these clubs arent elite ball strikers and are probably hitting it all over the face.

      I still can’t figure out why anyone would care if another player choses a club with jacked up lofts. If they hit it plenty high and it keeps my group moving down the fairway I have no complaints

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      Nick

      4 years ago

      To be honest, I don’t understand why “loft jacking” is such a big issue. Are people that play their blades and CBs (which I play) that insecure that someone else is using modern tech to help them. Also, I think people misunderstand that it simply isn’t a simple switch of the number on the bottom and now your SGI 7 iron is the same as a Players 6. Spin, launch angle, descent angle all play a big part in that too but because Modern tech manufacturers can turn down the loft to the benefit of the player without forsaking spin and decent angle.

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      JC

      4 years ago

      What’s “modern tech” about calling a 5 iron an 8 iron?

      All the “tech” could still be labelled correctly. We’re not discussing tech, just dishonesty aimed at suckers.

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      Jon

      4 years ago

      I think you might be missing the point here. If you have a DRVR SS of 110mph, a 47degree pitching wedge will fly with similar height, descent angle, spin and distance to that of someone who has a DRVR SS of 85mph using a 38degree pitching wedge. The 8 iron of the 110mph player is intended to fly the same height and distance as the 8 iron of 85mph player with this type of iron. The actual intent is to give players with slower swing speeds who typically deliver more dynamic loft at impact a level playing field to those who have the ability to swing at high speed. It has nothing to do with making suckers think a 5 iron is an 8 iron. #facepalm

      Max

      4 years ago

      Semantics. And it may not be semantics simply so a manufacturer can say “loogit how far my five iron flies” (even though it’s a three iron).
      Maybe, more importantly, many golfers have a stigma about their long irons, and are mentally defeated when they have to hit one, before their backswing even starts. By calling a 20 degree iron a 5, maybe that mentally disappears.

      Either way,they look nice. If I ever hit the lotto, maybe I’ll pick up a set

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      Lester

      4 years ago

      What’s the likelihood they’ll be released in the UK?

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      JC

      4 years ago

      ….because a 6 degree loft gap in scoring clubs and a 3 degree gap in clubs most players can’t hit accurately is really ideal….

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      dr. bloor

      4 years ago

      The six degrees between wedges won’t be much of an issue if you have the target swing speed, but it would have made more sense to put a hybrid or two at the top end of the set.

      Not my cup of tea, but they’re pretty nice looking for SGI clubs.

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      JC

      4 years ago

      What “target swing speed” shrinks the distance between wedges with a 6 degree gap? Are we talking about players that hit a 43 degree “wedge” 60 yards?

      24Linc

      4 years ago

      Very true that the 6 degree gap is not an issue for slower swingers but how about the 3 degree gap for the long irons for them then? They will likely get a 5 yard gap. So Feankly of this set is designed for slower swings why not keep the loft gap at 5 or 6 degrees through the set or use 6 for short irons and 5 for long irons? And we have a 7 piece set and not a 9 piece set with confusing gapping. This will make the set to be cheaper for the consumers but wait, Titleist will loose some $ because every set they are selling 2 less clubs! Perfect example of how the engineering guys built a well disgned head and the marketing and business guys ruined it by putting sales first not improvement that it will bring to the golfers.

      dr. bloor

      4 years ago

      JC: The target market is bascally me–60, back issues, driver swing speed 80-82 mph. I carry a 45 PW (80 yards), 50 Gap, and a 56 SW. Taking the 9 iron into account, which is essentially a wedge given my distances, I can assure you there aren’t any gapping issues in my game.

      As I said, they’re not my cup of tea–I’m a decent ball-striker and have always favored relatively narrower soles.. But in terms of Titleist’s motivations here., I can assure you there are a lot more guys like me out on the course than guys like you..

      24Linc: Agreed, that’s why I mentioned the hybrids at the top end. I’d probably have a distance gap of about 20-25 yards between the 5 and 8 irons.. I wonder if a hybrid set might have been a little too Adams-like for T at this point.

      WiTerp

      4 years ago

      I was offended when I first saw the lofts. I’m much like Dr. Bloor and 48-43-39 irons don’t have over 10 yards distance. I’m willing to ignore the number on the end and see if they perform better at the same loft as the T300. I’ve used hybrids for 4/5 irons. I’m hitting a T300 5 Iron better than my 23 hybrid. It’s worth a shot to keep me “competitive” at 70.
      For JC, I get about 90-95 yards from a AP3 PW. 130 -32 for a 7 iron.

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