WHY WOMEN’S GOLF INITIATIVES AREN’T ENOUGH
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WHY WOMEN’S GOLF INITIATIVES AREN’T ENOUGH

WHY WOMEN’S GOLF INITIATIVES AREN’T ENOUGH

Over the last few years, we have seen greater efforts and an increasing number of campaigns to support and advance women’s participation in golf. In America, we have the LPGA’s #inviteHER initiative, the annual Women’s Golf Day on June 4, and Women’s Golf Month in June. In the U.K., the R&A launched “Women in Golf Charter,” (what does charter mean … anyone?), along with other initiatives in the U.K. like This Girl Golfs, Golf Girls Rocks, Drive Women’s Golf, and We Love Golf.

Despite these efforts, women’s golf participation has stagnated at 25% for quite some time, showing only little slivers of increased participation.

The question is…why? With all these women’s golf initiatives one might expect there would be more women picking up the sticks.

More women are at least trying golf (more than 35 percent of beginners are women), but there is a significant disparity between the number of women who are introduced to golf and the number of women who become avid golfers. Why is the conversion rate so low?

The reality is that women’s golf initiatives don’t go far enough. So many of the current women’s golf initiatives focus on getting women to the course, but shouldn’t there be greater consideration given to what happens after women leave the range?

Changing the culture of golf courses will undoubtedly play a much more significant role in keeping women engaged and active in the sport. Here are just a few questions to consider:

Who is reaching out to women and asking them what support they need during their golfing journey?

Get every woman’s name and email and follow up with them. Engage with prospective golfers and make an effort to understand what’s holding them back from pursuing golf. If there are concerns or limitations that keep them from playing more consistently, look for opportunities to accommodate.

Are you treating women like your other golfers?

One of the biggest things that consistently holds women back from playing golf more regularly is that we are not engaged with as serious customers or treated as serious golfers. Too often we’re quickly disregarded. Let the women know that they’re valued and that you want them at your course. These conversations might even spark ideas for across the board changes that will make the course more inviting to female golfers.

What type of equipment does your course offer for women?

Most courses have limited options for women, which makes us feel less valued as customers. So often when I go to a course, there will only be one or two brands for women to choose from, and it’s all in the stereotypical colors. You don’t have to offer full sets to highlight what’s available on the market to women, but having a handful of irons and woods for women to try, you will make them feel like they’re not an afterthought. We notice when we’re not valued, and the optics alone will make us less likely to come back.

What type of discounts are offered to women?

Offer discounts to women who want to play golf. Offer discounts when women bring male or female friends. Offer them discounts if they bring their children. Offer discounts when they play a certain number of times or buy so many buckets of golf balls. Rewards breed loyalty while helping to remove some of the cost burdens when she’s learning.

What type of restrictive apparel guidelines are in place?

If you’re operating a public golf course that doesn’t allow leggings or tank tops, ask yourself if you care about having millennial women play at your course. Many of us like leggings. Some of us like tank-tops and many of us don’t want to spend more money on an already expensive game just to adhere to an archaic set of rules based on decorum.

Does the golf course have tees in place for true beginners?

Most beginner golfers aren’t equipped to play courses from even the forward tees, so courses should consider having another set of tees that are more beginner friendly. Could the course be set up as a par 3? This will help speed up play, as well provide beginners with a chance to play from an actual set of tees rather than being forced to drop in the middle of the fairway like I’ve seen done so often.

Do you offer childcare?

Childcare – yes, I’m serious about this. Gyms have childcare, why not golf courses? Imagine being able to drop your kid off while you hit golf balls or play for a couple of hours? With women often juggling the demands that come with working full-time jobs and being moms, onsite child-care could incentivize women to spend more time (and money) at the course. Dads would love it too. It’s not unreasonable to charge for it, and having the option would eliminate the need for women to plan ahead or hire a babysitter. Giving golfers the flexibility to be spontaneous can help fill some of the holes in your tee sheets.

Do you have a corporate discount plan for women?

More than ever before, women own businesses or are in the C-suite, and these women would almost certainly like to entertain their clients or have employee outings at the golf course. Support women who are breaking through glass ceilings by incentivizing them to make golf a part of their business development.

Are you thinking outside the box?

Why maintain the status quo if it’s not working? Try something different, and if it fails, try something else. Too many courses make the mistake of giving up on women because the first thing they try doesn’t hit the mark.

 

Have Your Say

Do you own or work at a course that has tried any of these ideas? Leave a comment below and tell us what worked and what didn’t. Tell us about an idea that you implemented that women embraced. Let’s not hold a monopoly on ideas when the growth of women’s golf is contingent on all of us doing our part to grow it together.

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Anya Alvarez

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Anya Alvarez

Anya Alvarez is former LPGA golfer turned sportswriter and producer for outlets such as ESPN and CBS Sports. In an effort to grow the game, Anya hopes to shine a light on how the golf industry can attract more women to the game.

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      Morag Browning

      5 years ago

      Ladies sections are the problem. They should be scrapped as they segregate golfers on sex, not ability. CONGO handicapping system makes it possible to compete in the same competitions, but still golf clubs 100% segregated. Small (sometimes tiny) ladies’ sections playing over longer courses offer few competitions per month. Most men would leave golf clubs if they were restricted to playing only in the ladies section. I had to walk away as fed up fighting to be allowed to play alongside men in the same competitions. I had a handicap of 11, but was born the wrong sex for amateur golf in UK. Women are definitely treated as 2nd class golfers despite paying exact same subs.

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      William Coolidge

      5 years ago

      Men and women value sports differently. That’s OK. I don’t see the need to bend over backwards to get women into the game. If they want to play–that’s great. If they don’t want to play–that’s fine too. But offering preferential treatment (i.e., discounts and the like) is foolish.

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      Andy

      5 years ago

      Interesting and thought provoking. There are 2 women in my life that I would LOVE to have play golf with me.
      1 – My wife – she took lessons as a wedding present to me 20+ years ago. After 2 attempts on the driving range she gave it up. She simply couldn’t get the ball off the ground. She is pretty un-athletic and never played a ball/stick game in her life before trying golf.
      2 – My 14 year old daughter. I have taken her to hit balls and putt, but she has scoliosis and has trouble bending over to tie her shoes. The golf swing + all the bending over in golf would NOT be good for her.
      So I’m very sad to report that I won’t be helping grow the women’s game. :(

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      mackdaddy

      5 years ago

      Wow, Thanks for this article! I sold my restaurant two years ago and after about a year I got board. I took a job as a food and beverage manager at a country club and after three weeks I was asked to take over as the general manager. Doing the schedule of the year I noticed that the women’s member guest was on weekdays not a weekend like the men’s. I offered them a weekend date and they were blown away. Recently when some of the men were arguing about what tee boxes were the most fair for the upcoming tournament one of them pointed out that the women only have one tee box. Anya, do you think we should set additional tee boxes for the ladies/beginners. How many and at what yardages would be best. I would hate to set them so short that the ladies were insulted.

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      Steve

      5 years ago

      I’ve read the article twice and thought about the whole situation. The treatment of women at the public golf courses while haven’t been overt, some men still start gripping before rounds have started, then they are the ones who end up playing slow. I can only control my attitude by treating everyone with respect. It doesn’t help my game by getting all worked up before a round. I will relate one story that I went through in the late 80’s early 90,s when golf was very popular in our area. I got real friendly with a women’s group playing in the midweek. If they had a group at the end that had 2 or 3 players, I would hook up with them play from their tees with my 3 or 5 wood and walk. It help with patience,pace and tempo. Now tee times are fairly easy to get. People are in a hurry, on their cellphones using all sorts of gps apps or distance watches or lasers for distances they can’t hit.

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      JasonA

      5 years ago

      I love it that my club is welcoming to female golfers, and unlike other places I have not overheard a member make anything but positive comments about female members. More that play the better.

      But what is actually a reasonable target for female participation? Government statistics show that proportionally some sports have a high female bias
      https://www.bls.gov/spotlight/2017/sports-and-exercise/home.htm
      I don’t feel excluded from Aerobics. I just don’t have any interest – even after an introductory class.

      Golf is time consuming, technical and not fitness specific. It is pretty much the antitheses of reasons females give for partaking in sport.

      25% participation rate of females in golf may be excellent given the context. An implicit expectation of 50/50 balance being “right” may just be plain wrong-headed.

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      Tim

      5 years ago

      I think if people just lightened up about this game a bit, you would see more women playing. Many women, my wife included, just want a nice day out socializing and enjoying themselves. While there are plenty of fierce competitors among the fairer sex, I find that the majority have a more realistic view on golf. They see it for what it is, a silly game in which we hit a little plastic ball around outside. Par, Birdie, Masters, Tiger, COG, Blades, Pro V1…. its all BS. We’ve propped up this Scottish pass time to ridiculous levels. So much so, that when my wife and I get paired with the douche wearing the white belt, with the staff bag full of PXG blades, he feels the need to make a comment about us ‘keeping up’.

      The first thing that came to me after breaking par for the first time is how much time I’ve wasted on this game. How I took it way too seriously. Now, when I play, I take a little less time lining up putts and more time enjoying the time outside playing a game.

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      CPH

      5 years ago

      It’s an interesting article as I’m not sure whether the implication is that men aren’t doing enough to get women into golf or golf clubs. We’ve got a programme in New Zealand called “She Loves Golf” which my wife joined a couple of years ago & is now a regular player.

      The programme has introduced quite a few female golfers to our golf club (Paraparaumu Beach) but the comment I hear quite regularly is that it’s some of the other women golfers that put them off as their not very welcoming & don’t want to change anything to suit younger working women.

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      scott

      5 years ago

      Who ever wrote this article must have bumped his head and thought he was in the 50s. I work at Kings Creek in Spring Hill TN and go out of my way to make sure the lady’s feel right at home. Could this be true at a private course how would I know but, here at Kings Creek we love everyone who love;s the game of golf in rain, sleet, cold, hot,humid, sunny, cloudy,. Every day is a great day if golf is part of that day. Even for women

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      Matt

      5 years ago

      The fact that you assumed this article was written by a man highlights the issues even more.

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      cksurfdude

      5 years ago

      With apologies to all the *good* course marshalls out there – but there are a few men marshalls out there (come to think of it, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a female course marshall?) who have eyed my wife and I suspiciously as we wait in the fairway for the group ahead on the green. I say this because I am SURE were there not a woman in our group the marshall would have kept driving by .. because he *should* be checking on why the group of all men in front of us are taking 12 full minutes to putt out……..

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      Susan Eno

      5 years ago

      I have basically been playing golf all my life. My father and uncles played golf. I practiced in the field across the street from my house. It was my favorite thing to do and they would bring me to the “real golf course” when it wasn’t busy. When I joined my current club as a 29 year old I think I was the youngest woman golfer there. That was about 40 years ago. I don’t think the demographic has changed much. There are very few young woman golfers at my course. Our daughters weren’t interested even though they could have played anytime as part of the membership. I tried!! One is now beginning to inch into golf because she has co-workers who play and charity tournaments to enter but she lives in Boston. I don’t believe the women at our club are cliquey as one commenter put it the opposite in fact. It’s just hard to learn the game and not that many people stick with it. But the ones that do both men and women have a great sport that is good for you your whole life especially if you walk as most of the woman at my club do. I have experienced the assumption that woman aren’t serious about their game. That their tournaments aren’t as important to them as the men’s tournaments are to the men. Just because a woman can’t drive her ball 275 yards into the woods like the good old boys doesn’t mean they don’t care about playing well. It’s important to not alienate potential new golfers and be encouraging and welcoming but I do think it is not for everyone and going crazy over growing the game is misplaced effort. The fact that there aren’t enough clothes in the pro shop is a minor complaint. I think most golf clothes are ugly anyway. I agree about big golf store personnel assuming women want pink clubs is annoying but it isn’t as if the salespeople look at that job as a career, what do they really know about golf anyway?

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      Eric Seatvet

      5 years ago

      This is an awesome atopic to discuss. The author offers loads of ideas on how to attract female golfers. I like the childcare idea.

      I few topics don’t quite hit the mark for me. Golf courses not have women’s equipment. Who buys equipment like clubs and such at a golf course any more? Maybe a CC is different, but golf course owners loss that business years ago to PGA Superstores and other retailers. I see plenty of options for women there. But that doesn’t mean they are going to stock everything. It’s hard enough to get a small company to get in these big stores. The big stores only are going to carry what sells. Maybe internet sites are an option like it is for many of us.

      Corporate discounts for women on green fees? The golf courses work off very small margins. Offering discounts dilutes these margins even more. Want to get some traction with a course? Start your own league. That gets women to play more if they would have a regular league date. You might get a discount is the course knows you have 24-32 players that will play every week.

      Again, this is a great topic. Love the discussion.

      Eric

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      don

      5 years ago

      Wow popular subject

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      Tracy

      5 years ago

      I play golf regularly – with men because the women are so few. I have the same conditions as men – as it should be. However – there are no toilets on our course. Men don’t have much of an issue with that – when they need to go, they just find a tree.
      The only other thing I find – men put the ladies tee boxes out. I have no misconception about the fact that men can hit the ball further than ladies and I believe that the ladies tee box should be in a location where the average woman can hit a similar club into the green as the average man would. Instead, women are forced to lay up – or hit a long iron in and hope that they can somehow get it to stop on the green. Sadly, very few male golfers see this point of view and are more concerned if a woman’s drive goes further than theirs due to the location of the women’s tee box.

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      Golfpro

      5 years ago

      I work at a course that is a non profit in Clearwater Florida. We recently spent over half a million dollars to make our course more kid friendly and lady friendly. We want your business and welcome you all to show up tee it up and have a blast from whatever tees your skills suite. We added new more forward tees on the longer holes for women. Changed a couple to par 5s when there was not even many men who could carry water in 2. We widened fairways we decreased water carries. We built actual normal kid/beginner tees on every hole not just a flat spot cut in the corner of a fairway. We enlarged all the greens and cut the surrounds to fairway height so you can chip and putt and have more options. We lowered steep bunker faces and shrank bunkers to allow run up shots. We so appreciate you all, whatever the skill level, especially if you blow it past the men all day! Also I’d like to thank women for having the best on course ettiquite I’ve seen in a long time. Always fixing ballmarks, filling divots, raking bunkers and keeping the carts where they belong. We really appreciate that! Come to chichis and say hi.

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      cksurfdude

      5 years ago

      Excellent! ?

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      Rob

      5 years ago

      I understand the need to grow the sport and the game of golf. I have tried to get my wife to come along and play golf or even ride with me for the company as well. I don’t think it’s any different then trying to get someone new into the sport. If they don’t have the interest they don’t have the interest. As far as giving them incentives, sorry I’m tired of hearing it now in the “new age”. Women want to be treat led the same then they want to cry wolf and say I need discounts or child care or something else. There’s plenty of single fathers out there that do things on there own. Just my two cents here.

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      Stephen Pearcy

      5 years ago

      Intimidation does more keep beginners, especially new women players, from moving past their first unpleasant experience. Some golfers, who are supposed to be good sportsmen, are hardly that. Especially among those who rank their game by how fast they play. Note, golf is not doing particularly well participation wise. And note that women’s participation is much higher in Europe and Asia.

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      Galynne Davis

      5 years ago

      Big THANK YOU to MyGolf Spy for putting out this article and to Anya Alvarez for writing it. There is so much more that could be done for women in the game of golf, but really….it needs to start with the culture (the boy’s club) at the local golf courses. So often women are treated in a patronizing manner – for example, I don’t know HOW many times I’ve gone in to be fitted only to have the gentlemen at the pro shops point me at the selection of one or two brands of “clubs for women”. Manufacturers like TaylorMade Golf Callaway Golf and so many others could also start the game in the right direction by eliminating the term “ladies” or “womens” in their club selection. It all comes down to shaft. Please just brand your shafts in non-gender terms. And DON’T get me started on “ladies” golf balls. Good gawd.

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      Graham Riley

      5 years ago

      100% right Galynne – funny thing about ‘womens’ clubs…….. they kinda look the same as ‘mens’ clubs but shinier and a lot of the time pink…… I also think it is time for the major OEM’s to get their act together and bring out clubs anyone would be proud to own and for clubs………. well the ‘boys club’ at your local should think through their attitude……. they hopefully ‘like’ women at other times and it would be a sad day when we did not have you ladies on the courses world over……. please ignore the grumpy old men and come play………. if you are in South Africa ever…… look me up for a round……. anytime!!!

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      Johnny Penso

      5 years ago

      The vast, vast majority of women aren’t big/strong/tall enough to swing a mans length shaft with regular or better stiffness. It would feel like swinging a 2×4. Women’s clubs come with more flexible shafts and are shorter because women are, on average, shorter. Sure, if you work out or are larger and have unusual strength for a woman then go to the men’s clubs but that isn’t going to work for most.

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      Norm

      5 years ago

      I’d say 25% of the guys commenting don’t see that having women play is an opportunity. Golf as a business is declining* because us baby boomers are leaving golf. My wife and daughter both play only because each was an elite athlete in another sport. The club I belong to doesn’t have that many female golfers because our course is too hard. I’d say yes to offering incentives for women. It will certainly aid a clubs bottom line.

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      Jeff

      5 years ago

      Your course doesn’t have too many women members because it’s too hard?
      That’s the same as saying your local library doesn’t have too many ___ because they have books with big words….

      Why are some may of people who demand equality the most inclined to point out inferiority?

      Hypocrisy and bitterness are always partners..

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      Bill

      5 years ago

      I find most golf courses and many leagues to be almost hostile to newcomers and those who don’t “pass muster.” My wife and I used to play 9-holes every Saturday morning at a terrific public executive course in Loveland, CO. We moved to a retirement community that has multiple courses and have not really felt welcome. We have both taken up golf in the last three years.

      We just started looking for a new set of clubs for her and have been appalled at what has been suggested. Most shops drag out a brightly colored set that is barely usable technology. Balls are even worse. We went to a vendor day event this last weekend and the Mizuno guy wouldn’t even talk to her. Until there is an attitude shift, people will just walk away from being treated as a nobody. We miss being treated as valued customers. And many of the low-handicappers just don’t want new people to come to “their” course for any reason…

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      robert larsen

      5 years ago

      What a timely topic – many thanks for raising the issue/opportunity.

      I’ve been playing since I was 5 – 60 (youch) years now. Play 120+ rounds a year – in Chicago! Low single digit handicap. My lovely wife took up the game 9 years ago – so we could spend more quality time together. Loves the game – plays 4/week – 80+ times a year.

      Our (private) club restricts the times spouses can play during the week (save Tuesday’s) and weekends – a fact not pointed out to us before we joined 15 years ago. And I must admit – it is a totally foreign concept to us coming from California – where everyone could play anytime they wanted.

      To say there’s an “old boys” culture at our club – and sadly most private clubs in/around Chicago – would be an understatement!

      Want to attract more female members? more rounds by the ladies? more equipment and apparel sales? more cart fees? more lesson and caddie revenue? more food/beverage sales? more guest fees?

      The solution is “simple” – join the 21st century – and eliminate restrictions on when the ladies can play!

      BTW – the situation reached a tipping point at our club late last Fall – around 35 of us decided to take a one year “Leave of Absence” to send the Board a clear message we didn’t like their continued lack of action toward resolving this issue. Unfortunately – it’s eight months later and nothing has changed. So many of us are searching for a more “enlightened” club to join.

      Thank you again for raising the issue – please keep a focus on this opportunity to grow the game we all love.

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      mnk91998

      5 years ago

      Maybe give Randall Oaks in West Dundee a try. This is a public course. I have a teenage daughter that lives at the golf course. Randall Oaks has always been inviting to all.

      Steve

      5 years ago

      Wow… As I read this, I am preparing to play hookie from my work and go play golf… with my wife.

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      Chris Cooper

      5 years ago

      You are quite right about the attitude of many golf courses to women. Believe me it is worse in Great Britain than in America.Many of our most famous golf course have no restrooms or facilities for women on the course. At one course rated in our top ten recently my wife had to walk outside the building in the rain to get to the ladies restroom in the clubhouse.. She was not allowed to walk through the members lounge. This attitude to women along with antiquated dress codes hardly encourage women to take up golf. Meanwhile the average age of golf club members continues to rise.

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      Cdmac golfer

      5 years ago

      As a female who has been playing golf for 30 years, these are my opinions. I don’t think discounts to women are they way to go. However, there were many other great suggestions. Getting kids involved and making it easier for people to get out on the course with their kids is a great idea. Most of my family golfs and whenever we have a big event we have a family tournament. We start the children off in our family early and it is so much fun to see them grow into the game. I now have family members whose sons and daughter around 8 golf with their parents and they even take golfing vacations with the kids. They are respectful of not holding play up and the kids get to enjoy the sport as a family event.

      As for being a woman golfing, yes, I have all kinds of negative experiences. From having men quit after nine when the golf starter moved me back a tee and the two men I was grouped with moved forward and still outdriving them, to the point they just quit because they were mad. I have gone to demo days, where they kept insisting i should use an L-flex and a draw bias because you know…women typically have a slow swing speed and slice. When, I finally got them to give me an r-flex with a neutral face and got up to the tee box and banged about 10 straight out there, they offered me a a huge discount. The overabundance of teal, pink and lavendar clubs and clothing. I was at a Wounded Warrior tournament, where most of the guys wouldn’t play with the guys who were rehabbing because they had high handicaps. Then when I won longest drive and got a box of titleist Pro V1 golf balls, guys were telling me I couldn’t use them because as a woman my swing speed couldn’t be high enough to use them. Finally, one wife stood up for me and said didn’t she win those for longest drive. I have had guys approach me at the driving range to give me free lessons and advice when I was trying to work on shot shaping. I played last year with a female neighbor and her male golfing tournament partner. On every hole, every shot he gave her advice and how she could have hit it better or putted better. After, the first nine she said, my score is always better than his, he should be giving advice to himself. Later, she came and asked if I would partner with her on the next torunament. She said, I just can’t take him advising me on every shot anymore. Interestingly, he never offered me any advice and I played pretty bad that day.

      However, I am a golfer and I always say you must be an optimist to play golf. If, a bunch of bad shots made you quit, you would never get better. It’s the feeling and memory of that great shot that keeps you coming back. I am seeing more instruction for women only, more lpga or women golf instructors. I love having a starter on a course, so guys who want to play from the tips but can’t keep it in play or get to the green in regulation are moved up. I, also, have to say that those few negatives are far outweighed by the number of positive experiences I have had with the men I have played with.

      Basically, if you wouldn’t say it to your male golf buddy, don’t say it to your female golf buddy. And if, you wouldn’t say it in front of your mother or your kids, don’t say to a woman who is a stranger to you.

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      Randf

      5 years ago

      Awesome story! I rarely offer a tip, except to my wife because she doesn’t play very often. But one time I was playing 18 with a woman at the Loma Club in San Diego who asked me after a couple holes for some advice.(Are you out there Laurie Kim?) I explained that I’m rather novice, score in the low 100s, and play to a 24 handicap. And I wasn’t the one she should be asking. She pressed me. I told her that generally I know what I’m supposed to do, but it’s not easy to do. Gave her some well-received tips. She was appreciative. We had a wonderful round. Sometimes we men need to restrain ourselves…

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      Galynne Davis

      5 years ago

      Thank you for your response! I have had many of the same experiences as well….Fitting had been such a pain in the ass so I just had some pros (with the use of Trackman and various shafts and heads) show me the keys to fitting myself and that’s how I chose to deal with THAT challenge.
      Keep swingin’ !

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      Sylvie

      5 years ago

      Thank you for your post! Same experience here for me as an avid and good golfer. I also had a guy quit the course at the 6th hole while playing with me because I was playing better than him. He didn’t even say goodbye. I had the course all to myself which was awesome! I never bought any pink stuff. I would when men wear wear baby blue on the course. The golf industry is sexist and there is the old boys club mentality but as you said, many men are also very supportive and it is a wonderful game which gave me a lot of amazing moments. I just wished I didn’t have to endure all the sexists moments. Golf should be equalitarian. It is not a question of brute force. I hope it ends up ditching the old boys club mentality so more women can experience its beauty!

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      Mike

      5 years ago

      I would like to include other minorities in this discussion. Here is my story.

      A GOLF STORY
      My wife and I spent the Month of March in Green Valley Arizona. We love to golf and this seemed like the perfect place to escape the winter in Michigan and enjoy warmth and golf.
      My wife does not enjoy long, 18 hole courses, so I often go to a course as a single, get paired with other players, and enjoy my play.
      On this particular day, I arrived at the course, announced that I was a single, and was given the next available tee time. As I was hitting balls on the range, a gentleman approached and introduced himself as Ted, another single who had been paired with me. The starter then came over and informed us that we were next on the tee. It would be just the two of us playing together.
      Ted and I had a wonderful round together. We learned about our careers, he a Nurse and I a salesman, our families, our lack of golf skills, and the many other topics which two men can discuss while playing golf. It was truly a delightful round.
      After we were done, we both agreed that we should play again and exchanged phone numbers so we could keep in contact.
      We played together four more times while I was in Green Valley. On those occasions we were paired with husband/wife couples; one from Canada, and one from Montana. In both of these pairings, I was asked how I came to know Ted…kind of a strange question I thought. We were just two friends playing golf.
      Oh, I forgot to mention…Ted is black!!
      For some reason, these people found it odd that a 70 year old white guy would be paired with a 60 year old black man who liked to golf. I found these questions particularly offensive. While they were not aimed directly at Ted, they questioned my judgement in choosing him as my partner. I make no excuse for treating another human the way I would want to be treated.
      If we are going to help heal racial issues in the United States, then we have to look past skin color and learn to judge people on their character, personality, sense of humor, and love for life. Ted had all of these characteristics and more. Also, he genuinely enjoyed playing golf, probably the trait that endeared me to him and made me want to play more rounds with him.
      If we want to truly “grow the game” we must proactively work to make golf more inclusive, meaning we need to see more pairings like Ted and I on the course. Obviously, the course had no trouble taking Ted’s green fee, so we should have no problem accepting him into our foursomes. When you spend four hours playing golf with someone, you will learn a great deal about the individual and that might be the first step to healing.
      If you play golf, you are my friend.

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      Galynne Davis

      5 years ago

      Hear, hear!

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      Graham Riley

      5 years ago

      100% Mike…….. we have a similar problem in South Africa…….. really sad though because as you say……… a golfer is a golfer is a person plain and simple. Good write up, appreciated!!!

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      Jeff

      5 years ago

      A truly awful article with truly sexist ideas. Daycare? Don’t those children have dads? If it was a good idea why hasn’t it been done already?
      Discounts for gender? Why not race? Or political ideology? More liberals might play?
      With the availability of scholarships parents are trying harder than ever to get their daughters on the links. If people don’t want to do something, that’s their choice. My wife just doesn’t like golf. Instead of treating here as some victim of marketing failure I just honor her decision.

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      SteddyGolf

      5 years ago

      Staring at my computer as my fingers sort of work indecently from my mind I am not really sure how to answer this question. I think it comes down to supply and demand. While I am sure there are some “good ole boy” type folks out there, successful business people are driven by the almighty dollar. The color green seems to most often cross the divides imparted on society by the “everyone must be like me” generation.

      The more women who make the decision to spend their leisure money on all things Golf the more the industry will invest in meeting the demands of those women. I don’t think the build it and they will come mentality is a smart business model. I believe gender specific Golf will grows as interest and investment increases.

      I do think the best way to grow the Golf industry across all gender and racial demographics is through youth programs. These youth programs must target and provide opportunities to everyone without bias. Golf Courses must have the vision to understand a small contribution in time and space today will lead to more filled tee times and increased prolonged growth in retail sales.

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      towncryer

      5 years ago

      The comments here are indicative of one of the biggest reasons women don’t want to golf…because many men do not want them there.

      I coached girls’ golf at the high school level for nine years and saw it, day in and day out, how girls are treated at golf courses. They’re gawked at by middle-aged guys who are guzzling beers before their leagues start, they’re constantly getting bumped from the first tee to let faster players (ie male golfers) play first so they don’t get stuck behind them, we were always asked by the pro shop if we could maybe only play three holes so we don’t slow down pace of play, they get eye rolls from people for laughing and having fun on the practice green, etc…

      I can totally see why women feel unwelcome and uncomfortable at golf courses.

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      Jeff

      5 years ago

      The concept of having a girls team at high school, or college, or even a separate women’s tour begs the question of, why?

      Why not just have ONE team or ONE tour. Open to everyone. That would be real equality! Stop the sexism.

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      Adam

      5 years ago

      I don’t like anyone who plays slow. It just so happens the vast majority of women are very slow.
      There’s one lady at my course whos about 65 years old. She rides a cart and plays alone. She can grab her club, hit the ball, and get the club back in her bag in under 15. She’s awesome, I like her more than most guys I play with. It’s not a sexism thing at all.

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      Greg

      5 years ago

      Years ago playing with my girlfriend we were stopped on the course because my girlfriend was wearing a colored shirt but it was sleeveless. WE were told she was not appropriately dressed and she could not play the course dressed this way in the future. I see nothing wrong with relaxed dress codes for women. Let them feel comfortable and enjoy the outing.

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      Steven Mark

      5 years ago

      Women have been hailed as the saviours of the game for years.

      Your flogging a dead horse if you still think this is the case.

      The vast majority simply don’t find golf engaging or interesting. That is a fact.

      Ramming it down their throats, offering discounts and incentives does not alter the fact that the vast majority cant think of anything more boring than playing golf.

      I work at a club, we’ve run a lot of initiatives, they come for tasters sessions, find it boring and don’t come back.

      Women will never come to the game in large numbers.

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      Emery

      5 years ago

      That’s exactly what I see at our club and we have a strong youth program. More ladies like tennis, my daughter included…whom has a nice set of clubs daddy bought her…and that $300 racquet was cheaper than a new driver. Also, I’ve been told, 100 Div I college women’s golf scholarships go unfulfilled in the south every year…such a wasted opportunity but my daughter is a tremendous athlete…in soccer and has absolutely no interest in golf after youth clinics etc years past.

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      Richard Erdmann

      5 years ago

      Well done and well said. I get just as frustrated coming up on slow players, men or women. I need to learn to just enjoy the day more. Special discounts would be great. Women only get paid roughly 80 cents to our dollar. So charge the course rate that way if it is a 3 or foursome. For larger courses, childcare might really help. Sure they still have to pay, but make it available. Gym memberships…so why not childcare memberships at the course?
      There is more we can do.

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      Johnny Penso

      5 years ago

      I like many of the ideas presented but, frankly, some of them don’t belong in out 2019, gender blind world, as they are presented. Daycare is a great idea, not as a way to attract women specifically, but as a general way of making the golf club more inviting for everyone because, you know, most kids have a father too. Discounts for women? No, blatantly unfair for male golfers to not have the same discount available. Bring a friend discount? No problem, sex shouldn’t matter. Women’s competitions? That works because they have an inherent physical disadvantage compared to men.

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      Johnny Penso

      5 years ago

      Hogwash. Women don’t get 80 cents on the dollar compared to men. They get the same rate of pay for the same work, they just choose to work less, choose lower paying professions etc. The cost of a round of golf has nothing to do with your income. I pay the same as my friends and we all make different incomes. Suggesting women pay less is misandrous and has no place in 2019.

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      Dennis wells

      5 years ago

      I believe there are some golf courses that don’t care about caring 2 ladies . I believe the golf courses don’t realize that they’re losing 2/3 if not more to some more profit . It’s a shame .

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      gary simpson

      5 years ago

      Name me any sport in America that more women play than men. As to the reason that more women are not playing, women have a more difficult time getting the ball up in the air. The game is less fun when your shots are lower and wont run very far. Most courses that I play water the fairways too much and leave the grass too long in the fairways thus making the game more difficult for golfers that do not hit the ball very high. If most courses would go back to making the fairways hard and fast more women would like the game. More older men would like the game also.

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      Andrew

      5 years ago

      Volleyball. Gymnastics?

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      Neil

      5 years ago

      Golf’s inclusion problems aren’t just about women, they’re about beginners in general. I really cant say that I see much bias against competent female golfers. If they can play they’re “in”.

      The problem is WITH beginners (and most female golfers fall into that category). We really beat up on beginners in general.

      What we can do? The big thing is lighten up! Beginners (or anyone who just wants to have fun) should be encouraged to forget about the rules…tee it up anywhere and anytime you want. Pick it up when you want. Encourage beginners to play by one rule only…keep up with the group you’re with and the group in front of you…any way you have to do it. I’m an 8 HI and I do this anytime I want to. So what if I can’t post a score?

      WE HAVE TO GIVE EVERYONE THE RIGHT TO PLAY THE GAME ANY WAY THEY WISH AS LONG AS THEY AREN’T IMPEDING OTHERS TO DO THE SAME. People need explicit permission to violate the sacred rules of a new endeavor. The suggestion of needing new tees is an admission that we have to give people expressed permission so let’s do it with a big sign at every course saying something like: THE OVERRIDING RULE OF GOLF AT THIS COURSE IS HAVE FUN AND KEEP UP! ANY OTHER RULES ARE UP TO YOU.

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      Cdmac golfer

      5 years ago

      I agree. Give beginner’s a chance. With every 10 minute tee times, beginner’s often get frustrated. Maybe, have some hours or one day a month with tee times spread out or some free beginner lessons.

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      Golfpro

      5 years ago

      Love it!!

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      Simms

      5 years ago

      New Tee box”s, yes the younger lady, just as the younger men hit the ball a lot farther because they have grown up in the Tiger era and learned to swing using more of the body…..the over 45 average lady golfer needs 4,500 to 4,900 yard tee box”s to put par 4 with in reach and par 5 closer to a chance for par. Also the shorter par 3 is a must. Also more effort should be put into the women’s handicap differential…I see a lot of the older ladies getting shafted because they play an under 5,000 yard course and come away with a 14 but on anything over 5,000 say to 5,700 they are more then likely a 20 on up…no real good break in handicap system for senior women golfers..

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      Johnny Penso

      5 years ago

      Agreed. Over the years I’ve played with quite a few older female golfers and most of them struggle at the 5000-5500 yard mark that the ladies tees are often set at. It would be useful for many if there were tees in the 4-4500 yard distance, offering up 200-250 yard par 4’s, 300 yard par 5’s and 100ish yard par 3’s. Would be great for the younger kids as well. Would have the added benefit of speeding up the game as well.

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      Peter Winkler

      5 years ago

      I think golf courses should offer a 3 hole rate / 6/9/12 hole rate etc . Physically for both men and woman starting off and playing nine holes can be a challenge especially in certain climates. Golf needs to get over speeding up the game and let golfers pay per hole for the time they have . Why does golf have to be 9 or 18 holes?? Instead of a 5 hour round of golf why not (5) 1 hour rounds of golf ??. Career woman as well as moms can find a hour a lot easier than 5- hours to play a little golf

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      Kim B

      5 years ago

      The courses in my area that treat women well all have active women’s golf outings / associations. Hillandale Golf Course and Duke University in Durham NC, Occoneechee Golf Course in Hillsborough NC. It’s common for my women’s group to be blamed for slow play even when it’s not our fault. I also am handed pink items when I try balls or clubs at places like Golf Galaxy.

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      Trish

      5 years ago

      I agree. Ladies are very often accused of being slow. When my friends and I play and we don’t have anyone in front of us we play 18 in 3.5 hours and aren’t even rushing. I hate to say this but 9 times out of 10 if there are guys in front we wait each and every hole.

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      Drumdog

      5 years ago

      Women get treated as 2nd rate people in my area. My wife is an avid golfer and is pretty good. (18 ghin) The forward tee boxes are never flat or very well manicured, the local pros don’t give a hoot if there is a women’s league since they don’t buy as much beer as the guys, the only leagues that are available are morning week days.
      What about all the working women? When are they supposed to play on a league?

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      Cdmac golfer

      5 years ago

      excellent points. Forward tee boxes are in general terrible.

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      Galynne Davis

      5 years ago

      I concur with CDMAC…excellent points. Yes, the Forward Tees really tend towards less care given to them … When it comes to slow play, I really wish more folks (in general) would play to the tees (distance total) that matches their “real” game. Take your 5 iron CARRY distance and multiply by 36.
      If you carry 150yds x 36 = 5400yds….then you play the tees closest to that yardage. Give yourself, and the others playing with you…and in back of you, a break!

      Emery

      5 years ago

      This is kinda Devil’s Advocate but just trying to see the BIG issue presented by a lot of media folks. 1) WHY do we think we need to “Grow the Game”? Is it because we want it to be like something it was in the past or are there just not enough money to run a course or pay for people in the media…..or is it the money buzz around Tiger Woods? 2) Isn’t women’s golf at it’s best that it has ever been? PGA & LPGA both are being paid more than they ever have (preTW) with more exposure per the Golf Channel than ever before. I do see LPGA players burning out or wanting a life change after a certain number of years as a professional-not good or bad just an observation. 3) I see college golf becoming much bigger than in the past now being televised which exposes more new golfers to match play….4) Match play is more fun to me and 9 holes fits my schedule with work and family most of the time. TIME is what makes it more hard to “Grow the Game”….there is less of it do to our technological age and due to the lack of the wealth being spread around. Just things to think about, no answers but maybe a conversation starter.

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      Andrew

      5 years ago

      Good points.

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      Charles

      5 years ago

      As the husband to a golf fanatic, I taught my wife she was in a man’s world and would basically have to prove herself to be a golfer first and woman second. Sounds harsh, but she is an active member of our MGA and plays in most all of the events with regular and senior players. She also plays very fast, which is one of the first issues when women play. I think if you asked her, while she still wished more women played, she just loves golf and doesn’t care if she plays with men or women. I know not all women can handle that, but if you love the game and you practice good course management, i.e. pace of play, be ready to play, etc. you will find it is much more inviting. What I complain about the most is the lack of golf equipment for women and the attitude of some “male” club fitters when dealing with women fittings. I think that has been the largest and most disappointing area my wife has experienced. I recognize women have a much rougher time being accepted and breaking into the golf world. I am not discounting that one bit, but women will have to fight to be accepted and they can and will. Mine did!

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      Mike

      5 years ago

      Why should women get discounts?
      Childcare at the course is great in theory, but add that cost to your green fees…I’m sure the course would need a new insurance plan, and what happens when the parent has too many adult sodas on the course and goes to pick up their child?

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      Nick

      5 years ago

      I really don’t think this is an issue. Making something out of nothing. Next topic.

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      Aaron

      5 years ago

      Interesting, at the time of this post, the vast majority of commenters are male…

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      Landon

      5 years ago

      Precisely. Which leads me back to my previous comment pointing out that golf, for the majority of women, isn’t their first choice of recreational activity. How much less, then, would we expect women to be online commenting on golf websites?

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      Russ

      5 years ago

      I don’t mind women golfers, but the older ones that play in the morning play slow and don’t like to let anyone play through. Luckily they sometimes only play 9 holes.

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      tony@CIC

      5 years ago

      I don’t think you can make a blatant statement that applies across all female age groups. We do have a youth golf program but I believe it is mostly boys – shame on the parents. The Colleges and Universities in our area all have women’s intercollegiate golf programs and events. I also see a lot of younger couples playing golf – what a great activity for couples. Our club has a very strong women’s league – twice the number of participants than the men’s league. – in fact my wife is out playing in league as I type this. They have 2 groups 9 holers and 18 holers. Every week they introduce a game so it’s more fun for the ladies. For both groups – light breakfast before and lunch after. This is as much socializing for them as it is golf. Their golf clinics are always full. And BTW they are just as competitive as the men.

      As to the dress – please have a sense of decorum. No double standard at our club we ask that of the men as well. For instance no sleeveless t shirts for the guys.

      Lastly shame on the networks, Golf Channel, etc. for limiting time on LPGA events. My wife and I prefer watching the LPGA events rather than PGA (except for the Masters).

      For ideas on how to promote – look to what Korea is doing to promote women’s golf. As a result they’re dominating the LPGA.

      I’d agree on golf stuff available for the ladies. whether it’s clothes or clubs, there is a much smaller selection. I was in our pro shop the other day for a mother’s day present and noticed that the clothing inventory for the women was about 1/4 the size as for the men. Really? I would have expected the opposite.

      As to equipment – don’t get me started. You really can’t appreciate limited club selection unless you’re a lefty.

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      Landon

      5 years ago

      Amen to that. My son is a lefty. The only group that has a more limited selection of clubs than lefties are junior lefties.

      As for the topic at hand, it’s a tough one because it will take clubs paying more initially to bring more women’s inventory in that, if it doesn’t sell, they’ll lose money on.

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      Tom Donnelly

      5 years ago

      Women golfers are at a disadvantage right out of the gate. The are forced to play course length that are 1000 yards too long. The average female recreational golfer playing a 5,600 yard course would be the equivalent to an LPGA golfer playing a 9,600 yard course and a PGA Tour pro playing a 12,800 yard course. It’s no wonder women have trouble enjoying the game of golf.

      Give women a more realistic course length and you might see an increase in women’s participation.

      See also http://www.golfwithwomen.com/?p=242

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      Stacy Brown

      5 years ago

      I agree with this statement! Our course is tough and I am a 10 index, but the higher handicapped ladies should play a much shorter course for their skills. Many of them ore in the 70s and average drives are around 130 yards. Having to hit driver and fairway woods to the green is not fun.

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      Dr. Wang

      5 years ago

      Discounts for women only? Sounds an awful lot like new age feminism sexist BS to me.

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      Allan

      5 years ago

      Bingo. Glad someone said it. That’s not gender equality… that’s new wave BS feminism.

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      Mark M

      5 years ago

      Wow, ever heard of Ladies Night at a bar? Get a grip

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      towncryer

      5 years ago

      I’ll bet you’re a popular one with the ladies.

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      Choda

      5 years ago

      Dr Wang is right. I’m a female golfer with a 12.3 handicap. When I read about offering discounts to women my eyes widened. Feminism, sexism, call it what you want but NO. Let’s not open that can we can never put a lid on. This isn’t the way. Encourage ladies(and gentlemen)by lessons or driving ranges or even YouTube, starting rounds on Par 3’s and cheap clubs on second sale online sites. I could go on but I’m playing today so… ⛳️?

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      shortside

      5 years ago

      I’ll just repeat what I hear when paired up with a couple. They’re always concerned about bogging things down. Though that’s rarely the case from what I see once the round starts. They move along fine. Then there’s the men that make an extra effort to crawl up their backsides when they realize there are women playing in front of them. As if it’s unmasculine to not play through. Which is where I’d assume the feeling of clogging up the course comes from. Just my 2 cents.

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      Allan

      5 years ago

      That’s the hilarious thing… at my course, the women are typically the QUICKER players, yet you get some old geezers who still complain about women being slow. Idiots.

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      Dean

      5 years ago

      Would that that were true. Women in general do play slower. But I loathe slow play so by the time my wife was ready to play she was capable of playing fast. I felt a little guilty when she wanted to run up to the shot. After 2 back surgeries she has given up the game but our daughter who was high school team captain and works at an on course restaurant seldom plays based on time priorities. Her novice boyfriend plays more often I’m pretty frank with him needing to play faster too. I enjoy 2 1/2 hour rounds the most and know that 4 hours is long enough for anyone to play who gives a darn about being courteous- if you want to play slower let faster groups play through so everyone enjoys their golf day.

      Landon

      5 years ago

      While I truly appreciate this piece, and believe some of the initiatives are good ideas, I’m not convinced it will coerce more women to take up the game. Traditionally, women just aren’t in to stick-and-ball sports the way men are typically. It doesn’t necessarily mean the courses and/or leagues aren’t trying, it may simply be because they’re not interested.

      My wife loves to play with myself and our two kids. But, I never foresee her going to the course on her own, or even with friends, because she would rather scrapbook, or craft, or paint, etc. She plays because her family plays and, while it’s enjoyable for her, it’s not her top choice of recreational activity.

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      Jon

      5 years ago

      As a golf course GM of 15 years (in the industry 25-daily fee side of golf), I will say that the #1 issue I see over and over that deters women is…male golfers. Many male golfers tend to not want to be on the course with women golfers, and this attitude is definitely noticeable. Just watching the reactions, facial expressions, and even comments said when male golfers in a proshop see a group of women check in shows this…we get questions about “is our tee time behind them?”, “great…a 5 hour round now”, etc. And most of these comments are unfounded, as in my experience the VAST majority of our women golfers play as fast or faster than men, yet while ALWAYS playing “by the book” as far as rules go (most men at daily fee facilities don’t). Many of us in the industry welcome women golfers with open arms, and do everything we can to help them feel welcome and even try to correct some of the comments and attitudes of men that I mentioned above. But in my opinion, until the male golfers on the course accept and welcome women (and men have historically always been on course in greater numbers than women), women are going to feel, sense, and even hear this and not really want to be somewhere they aren’t “wanted”…no matter how welcoming and accommodating the golf course staff is. I’ve heard this being part of/being around multiple facilities.

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      Allan

      5 years ago

      While this is certainly true, as I said in reply to another comment… the women at my course are typically the quicker players, it goes both ways. I have tried to join up with 2 or 3 ladies and they don’t want to have me in their group… because I am a man. I legitimately don’t know why. I am perfectly fine playing with any gender or age. It’s golf, I’m having fun.

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      Galynne Davis

      5 years ago

      Thank you for your comment. I really appreciated your feedback as I have experienced the same attitudes and have heard the same remarks.

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      L. John Miller

      5 years ago

      My experience is, as a latecomer to golf, is that the sport and the business itself suffers from, itself.
      From the rules to the attitudes to the tools the barriers are large. Add on to that all the stuff and we have what we have. A sport and business that people tried to embrace but were rejected…by the people who play nand run the game to the attitudes regarding the game.
      The proof of this is that other sports have prospered. Baseball football basketball you name it. The transition from uniforms and 5vs5 and two hoops and a specified court size easily transition to cut offs and 3 on 3 half court. Same with softball or stickball. Games made up.
      Try fooling around on a course like that and you’re looked at laughed at shunned and kicked off.
      Don’t want that kind of thing in golf.
      Cool. Stop bitching. Courses were and are closing. It’s not the ball or pace of play. It’s golfers and the golfers who run the game. Pretty soon there will be Mar Lago and few others left for billionaires and old relics taxpayers maintain.
      Adapt. Improvise. Overcome.

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      Bogeypro

      5 years ago

      Most these ideas will increase the cost of the game for others… childcare, deeper discounts, more equipment, etc… As for those archaic dress codes, that’s just the way golf is. You dress for the game, not nascar race or strip club. There’s plenty of styles available to fit any women and not seem like the 1800s. Maybe the game just doesn’t appeal to women. What’s wrong with realizing that? Most women just might not want to play golf.

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      Erik

      5 years ago

      You’re part of the problem when the article is looking for answers. Not surprised from a guy who makes up the name bogeypro. Please explain how offering a discount to get women to play costs your club money when it’s currently generating ZERO revenue from the lack of women playing? Any money is more than no money. Get it together.

      When I was in school for golf management I had an idea for childcare at the course (in 2000 btw) and my golf coach fell over himself in excitement. That’s not just childcare, it’s a double win for the club because it turns into women playing and spending time and money at the course and a built in junior program. You don’t just baby sit, you engage the next generation of boys and girls and teach them the game of golf, while their mothers get time to do the same.

      As far as the dress code grandpa dinosaur, again you’re part of the problem. If you are interested in growing the game, you can’t sit back and say well this is how it is, if you don’t like it stay away. They’re already staying away. Outreach and inclusion grows the game. Not more of the same old man mantras.

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      Luis Ramirez

      5 years ago

      Please share with your golf pro. I will.

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      Regis

      5 years ago

      I’ve tried to get my wife into golf on several occasions. I’ve been playing over 50 years and have played all types of venues. The biggest problem in getting women to take up golf seriously is…other women. I’m serious. Getting beginners to join a couples league is fun and rewarding. But at some point as newbies progress they move into the mainstream. Women play with other women and women golfers as a group are more competitive,less inclusional, and more cliquish. Just like they were in high school. I play frequently with women in mixed events and most will tell you exactly that

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      Joe

      5 years ago

      I agree with you 100% Regis. My wife is an avid and competent golfer but I can’t even count the number of times she has come home irate and/or in tears over things other women have said to her or others on the course. The things that occur are foreign to me as a male golfer. They simply never happen. There must be an effort to change the culture of women’s golf to accept that it’s a game and it’s fun!

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      don

      5 years ago

      Again 100% I agree. My wife shoots under 90 but plays very seldom for those exact reasons. Trust me the women who play in general have zero issues with money or even childcare. Our course recently added new forward tees for the senior ladies and the junior golfer. They started a very popular 9 and wine league where there is zero payouts on score, just long drive and closest to the pin. They have a ladies masters where they play a ryder cup format game with the women chosen to represent 2 leagues.

      Aaron

      5 years ago

      On the few, rare times I get to play with women, this is almost always the reason they give for not playing more. They want to play with other women. Sadly, as a man, I can’t do much about that. The other option would be for women to allow themselves for being golfers. I won’t say it never happens, but I’ve never seen a woman harassed or given a hard time by men, while on the golf course. I think its fair to say, most of us don’t care what gender or color you are while on the golf course.

      JD

      5 years ago

      Yep. This exactly. My wife is a great golfer, but hates golfing with other women. Even when they’re good. It turns into gossip hour and she can’t stand it. Then in work events, when other women find out she’s good, they make it a point to tell everyone they have a “ringer” and hand over these back handed compliments about how she’s good at golf. It’s annoying as f***. – her words.

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      Jordan

      5 years ago

      Yep. This exactly.

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      Randjf

      5 years ago

      Fascinating observation-that it’s almost as if women as a group may form somewhat of a counterculture to “decorum”. After a couple of decades of absence, I restarted my game four years ago. I usually headed to various courses alone. My wife would come with me to play perhaps half a dozen times per year and grew to enjoy the game. Unfortunately, a work injury took her out of the picture a year ago. But over these past few years I’ve enjoyed playing the game with women. Having a woman or two join a group of men changes men’s behavior for the better. I happen to like that…(Please save the responses that men need a place like golf to blow off steam and get a little bit rowdy with their buddies- I understand that too.)

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      Aaron

      5 years ago

      Anya, Thank you so much for this article. As a dad I would love to have childcare at the golf course so I don’t feel bad leaving my wife to take care of them when I go to the range for an hour. Also, something that I think would spark more interest is adding a men’s and women’s event on the PGA tour. When people see their favorite players on the biggest stage and can relate, it’ll generate interest. While all the campaigns are great, they will fall short like you mentioned because there needs more visibility.

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      Linda

      5 years ago

      1. I play because I enjoy it and enjoy playing most with my family. When I can’t or don’t play it is from lack of time. Playing a full round of golf takes a lot of time. When I return home after golf I am tired, but must still attend to tasks that run a household. Carving out a chunk of time in the middle of the day is not a good option. So I often go out in the evenings to play only 4 or 5 holes, and don’t keep score, because that’s all of the time I have. Who cares, it my choice and my time?

      2. I don’t know any ladies with younger children who play golf. Daycare would not have enticed me to play when my family was young. I’m not sure if golf daycare is an issue for women. Spending time with family is. Maybe schedule regular family nights where entire families can play and learn together. No slow play rules and no scoring. Just fun for everyone.

      3. I don’t want discounts – don’t cheapen the game, keep the value high. I don’t want to shorten courses for women – I may not hit it as far (so what?) but I can still play my ball like every other golfer. I don’t care if the Pro Shop stocks clothes – I understand they cannot compete with big stores, chains and online shopping which is where I purchase my clothes too.

      4. I do care that super clean restrooms with good lighting are readily available – #1 reason women give as option for choosing a business. I do want smaller golf items (balls, gloves, etc) available in the Pro Shop. I do want snacks and drinks available. I do want good lighting in hallways and parking lots. I do want Pro Shop staff that knows what good customer service is. Example – I’m delighted when a staff person comes out to the 18 green and cleans all of my clubs while I finish putting, or shows up in a cart to help get clubs out of my car, or smiles from behind the counter and says “Good morning can I help you”. I don’t mind paying and tipping for great service. I do want pros that are available for questions and help – for everyone.

      5. I’m sick of pink. Give me clubs, equipment and clothes that are classy and work for me.

      6. The pro that introduced me to golf provided a series of 9 golf lessons (free) to any female who wanted to learn the basics. Besides how to use various clubs it included rules, taking care of the course/equipment and going out on the course to play 3 holes. We finished the series with a party and invitation to play in a tournament in the Just for Fun Flight. Half of our LGA grew out of this program. Two of the three courses in our town have inviting and encouraging atmospheres for women and in turn have an active ladies group. The third doesn’t have women players and doesn’t seem to care. So neither do we.

      7. I like ladies tournaments but I also like playing with the men. I’m delighted when my husband asks me to be his partner. Playing in events where partners are randomly drawn means we get to know and learn from a number of new people while having fun playing. Our course plans at least one a week.

      Reply

      Linda

      5 years ago

      Update on #6 above: Turns out the third course (a country club) in our city that I mentioned does have a couple of lady golfers. Right after I posted this, their Pro decided to host a free putting clinic for ladies and then the group could play their course at a discounted rate. He said that he wants to change the atmosphere at his club to be more welcome to women and wants to grow a ladies group. He wants to do this play day once a month in hopes that ladies from his club would see other ladies playing and decide to come out to play. We had ten ladies from our club and two from theirs show up. It was a soupy, rainy day but we loved playing the course. A couple of men around the Pro Shop when we finished said it was about time ladies played there and they were glad to see us.

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