Callaway APEX CF 16 brings Cup Face Technology to a Forged Iron
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Callaway APEX CF 16 brings Cup Face Technology to a Forged Iron

Callaway APEX CF 16 brings Cup Face Technology to a Forged Iron

Oh look. It’s a new Callaway iron. Not that one…not that one…either. There ya go, that one. It’s a new one of those.

Announced today, the Apex CF 16 and Apex Pro 16 irons will replace their current namesake models after a year (my bad) two years or so of serviceable life. I suppose that’s reasonable.

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It’s absolutely possible that we’ll have a mind-blowing experience when we test the new Apex line, but current Apex owners should take solace in the fact that, on paper anyway, the ’16 incarnation of Callaway’s top of the line iron offering is the kind of thing that should keep current Apex users content, while being different-enough to motivate fence straddlers to fall to the Callaway side.

Callaway bills Apex CF 16 as a for just about everyone kind of iron, and while the design speaks to that, it also speaks to a specific type of player. More so than Callaway’s other offerings, Apex appeals to a guy who, although he may want a little extra distance, considers himself above any explicit declarations.

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Apex is a high-tech, high-end iron, with half the nonsense (rough estimate) of a standard offering. Whatever Apex CF 16’s speed, it’s probably not outrageous.

Cup Face Technology

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The Apex CF 16 Performance story stems from the addition of Callaway’s Cup 360 technology. That Cup Face literally puts the CF in Apex CF.

For those who need a refresher, Callaway basically took the same face technology it uses in its fairway woods and built into its Big Bertha irons, and then its XR irons, and now, for the first time, Callaway has built Cup 360 into a forged iron.

That cup face, along with some more aggressive undercutting of the iron cavity itself, allows for a larger unsupported face, which, as you should all know by now, creates faster ball speeds across more of that face (cupped or otherwise).

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If you’re looking for a frame of reference, Callaway says last year’s Apex had a COR number of about .80, while the CF 16 steps that up to .82. Callaway believes that makes Apex the fastest (longest) forged iron on the market today.

There is definitely a speed story here…it’s just not the only story.

To help maintain the desired forged (soft) feel, Callaway uses a TPU insert (which it’s R&D team affectionately calls the snubber) to help control unwanted vibrations.

The total package offers speed with outstanding feel, or what Callaway calls Distance with Playbility.

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Progressive Performance

As you might expect, Apex CF 16’s offset, sole width, CG height, along with other things that generally progress within most progressive iron designs…do in fact, progress as you move from one club to the next, but only to a point.

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The Cup 360 tech and the aggressive undercutting is found only in the long irons (3-7). As you transition to the 8 iron (and beyond), loft plays a more significant role in the performance equation, which is why most of the tech in these types of tech-driven set largely disappears by the time you reach for your 8 iron.

At the higher lofts gapping becomes more of a priority and so Callaway’s focus shifts from what I suppose you might call raw power to distance consistency.

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What Callaway seeks to achieve with the Apex is a forged iron than most anyone can play. The prevailing design idea is that distance can be had without sacrificing feel or playability. If nothing else, Apex CF 16 should help overcome that misguided notion still held by some that hammering steel – in this case quadruple net forging 1025 mild carbon – somehow makes for an inherently less forgiving iron than one created by pouring metal into a mould (casting).

Callaway Apex CF 16 Specifications

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Pricing and Availability

Callaway Apex CF 16 launches on 10/30 with presales beginning on 10/16. Availability includes 3-SW with a street price of 1199.99 (steel – True Temper XP 95)/ 1399.99 (graphite – UST Recoil 760/780) for an eight club set.

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      Joe

      8 years ago

      Just bought the apex CF16 last week. Increased distance 10 yards wedge to 6 iron. But 5 and 4 irons go 15-20 yards farther. A little unsettling to see that gap in distance

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      Walter

      8 years ago

      Can someone please comment? I hit the Apex CF16 a few times, and to say it’s sweet is an understatement. Incredible in so many ways. But … I have a question: My swing speed with 7 iron was averaging 74mph., carry distance averaged about 160, which I’m thrilled with coming off of my Adams A4 cast that got me 145 yds. But, my launch angle was averaging 23 degrees. That was with the XP95 stiff shaft. Does anyone think that’s too high? And my spin was only 4300 rpm. On the simulator, it was rolling out to about 172 but who really knows – don’t know what the descent angle was, but height was about 30 yards, plus or minus.
      Thanks!

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      shane porter

      8 years ago

      How much would it cost for callaway apex cf 16 dexterity RH irons 4 to 9 ,pw, callawaymacdaddy3 54/10c, callaway macdaddy 3 60/08c.Could you explain to me what Flow Build Hybird Iron is & Aerotech Steelfiber is please cheers shane porter

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      redneckrooster

      9 years ago

      Club designs like history repeat themselves.. Macgregor had the 360 cup face design about 12 years ago and they are still as hot as any out there today..
      aaaaaayyyyy callaway?

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      Nate

      9 years ago

      It is crazy how much work and technology goes into making these things flawless. All that doesn’t make you good though- you have to know how to use the tech if you want to be good with it.

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      Allah Ali

      9 years ago

      These new Apex CF 16 irons sure look nicer then last years Apex Forged iron…There the same lofts so if they preform as well or better, I’ll buy a set…Hit the Apex Forged with True Temper XP 95 Reg / and Stiff shafts…Like the Reg better and was going to get a set till Callaway came out with these….CF 16 . Be nice it Callaway would place a slot to order these on their site with lie and options….Thanks…Allah Ali….

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      Mark Combs

      9 years ago

      Thanks Tony – this is a very fair review. It’s both critical and complementary – THANK YOU!!!! There is another site out there that is clearly in bed with Callaway, the company gives the site owners and members free golf equipment and it’s obvious they are errand boys for Callaway – it’s pretty disgusting and I won’t look at their site anymore. I wanted to chime in on your opinion. One thing – you’re mistaken about the length of time Apex has been around. This was a 2-year cycle and this club was featured in TWO annual club roundups at Golf Digest – so it’s an iron set with a true 2-year cycle (I know you want to be accurate). I play the original Apex, I switched to them after playing Ping G-Series irons for years. I LOVED the original Apex, I was worried about this update getting in my head. Callaway did some things that I think will keep me in my existing set. First they made the top line thinner, a thick top lines gives me confidence. Second, they made the wedges smaller, coming from a Ping iron, I like short clubs that have a tiny bit of clunky look (like a Ping G20 gap wedge)…So I loved the P, AW, and SW in the Apex set, they are thinner now, with a thinner sole, I think this new set of Apex irons will be slightly less forgiving than the originals. I feel the original was perfect, because it gave players something they didn’t know they needed, a little more forgiveness. I think most serious golfers fancy themselves a “player” and so they tend to play equipment that hurts their game a little, where they could play better with slightly more forgiving clubs…I thought the original Apex were perfect irons…I love Callaway, but I hate what they do at the other website I refer to…they should just go ahead and buy the site so these guys can stop being shills for the company – your review was fair and balanced – thank you!!!!!

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      Tony Covey

      9 years ago

      My bad on the release cycle…knew two, typed one. Numbers man…

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      Desmond

      8 years ago

      The new CF16 will be more forgiving all over the face because of the cup face tech. Since confidence is in the mind, put that cup face tech in your head. HIgher launch, less spin, more forgiveness all over the face with face thickness technology that the old Apex did not have. I only wish the 8i had more tech but I am using low tech irons and need more distance. I hope the CF16 are a pleasant, distance surprise.

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      Dave S

      9 years ago

      When will these be tested? Would love to see them up against the current MGS MW irons (RSI1s).

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      Chris C.

      9 years ago

      I have gamed the prior generation of the Apex for the last couple of years. I look forward to testing the latest iteration to determine whether or not I “need” the 2.0 version. That said, I already have some concerns regarding this release. In an age in which everyone else is utilizing some form of “hot steel” insert (eg. Srixon’s SUP10, PXG’s HT1770, as well as a plethora of Carpenter formulations), I am extremely disappointed that Callaway chose to abandon its use of faster and stronger steel in favor of the weaker and cheaper 17-4. I am extremely skeptical of Callaway’s stated reason that the change was necessitated by design issues. I strongly suspect that the real reason is simply one of cost. If so, it would be particularly annoying in light of the cost of the new version. Indeed, I am actually concerned that the use of 17-4 steel may result in equipment failures. I note that the thickness at the bottom of the face will be .050. this will be thinner that PXG’s .058 which necessitated the use of HT1770 steel. My final concern regards the availability (or lack thereof) of no charge shaft upgrades. I love the Recoil 95s and would hate to have to pay more on top of the already jacked up price. As an aside, I had finally come to accept the “legitimate” reasons for stronger lofts, to-wit: that as the cog is lowered and the launch angles increase, one needs to strengthen the lofts to prevent ballooning. However, in the instance of the new Apex, Callaway is contending that this new version of the Apex will have increased launch angles of 1.5 degrees. Yet they have maintained the exact same lofts of the earlier release. What gives? Is Callaway no longer concerned that the Apex will be subject to ballooning?

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      JoJo

      9 years ago

      I’m willing to bet Callaway is concerned about all things which make them profitable. Hit the new irons and if you like the way it games, that’s really all that matters. If you don’t, stick with the prior generation. I doubt Callaway purposely did anything to lesson the success of a very successful club and I would have to assume their engineers and testers spent countless hours over the last two years working on the final product. All manufacturers are subjected to the same rules limitations so we all have to take the marketing with a grain of salt these days.

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      Craig

      9 years ago

      When are these R&D guys from Callaway going to design something that has yet to be done.
      This cup face technology is a long way from being original. Tom Wishon has already received a Golf Digest award for designing an iron with cup face technology at the start of 2014. The only difference is that Wishon Golf have not jacked the lofts so stupidly as these irons seem to have. You mean to say that the average joe is going to hit a high soft landing shot with a 7 iron that is the loft of a 6 iron. C’mon Callaway, start thinking with your head.

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      David

      9 years ago

      I play with the current generation Apex and I’m tired of hearing about jacked lofts. I haven’t noticed any difference in height on my shots. Most guys I play with note how high my ball flight is. But of course this is Callaway we’re talking about so it’s OK to knock them they’re ruining the golf industry.

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      Craig

      9 years ago

      To David,
      I’m not knocking anybody in particular in the golf industry, I’m just saying that there IS no new technology left in this industry. Virtually everything has been done before in some way or another. The only way they sell new clubs is by spinning a lot of bullshit saying that this model is better than the last.
      If you read a golf magazine from twenty years ago, nothing has changed. Each companies driver WAS going further than the last one, and they were persimmon woods and they only had shallow cavity backs or blades. Please tell me how different todays marketing varies from yesteryear.
      Would like to hear an honest answer

      JoJo

      9 years ago

      So what’s changed over the years? What hasn’t changed might be easier to answer. What has changed is big difference in balls, club aerodynamics, component weighting, hybrids, shaft options, better balanced putters, range finders, club fittings, even simple things forgotten like gloves and shoes and technology in general. Today there are new thoughts on swing models (remember the reverse C?), better/faster research and development, different engineering concepts, new technology/computers to design clubs/try new things, new/different materials to use, innovative manufacturing, shaft differences, weight balancing differences, vastly improved launch monitors, club fittings for the average golfer, faster/better feedback from everyone around the globe at click of a button, on and on. Today’s average driver may weigh 50 grams lighter than previous generations. That’s also a reason some manufacturers crank out newer versions of clubs at a faster rate these days whether we like it or not. Just think of what we now deem simple like adjustable headed drivers…back in the old days it was uncommon to have a “fitting” for an average golfer like we do today or tweak a driver real time as our swing changes. I’ve hit persimmon headed drivers and you are welcomed to go back.
      Regarding “jacked lofts”: Take almost any 7 iron from today or from 10-20 years ago and check max peak launch height. You’ll find very similar results in most give or take. Or if you like, go bend (if you can) a 15 year old 7 iron to today’s “jacked lofts” as you say it. What you’ll find is a low flying bullet which would scoot right off the back of the green and not a good club at all. Or bend back these new “jacked lofts” to the old lofts and you’ll find a high ballooning shot which underperforms.
      A 7 iron in a today’s set of bladed MB clubs of 35 degrees launches about the same height as a 7 iron of 30/31 degrees in these new “longer” clubs. The lower loft simply goes further but that’s not necessarily a good thing; it is solely up to you which one works for your game and how you score. What I can’t understand is who wants a new higher launching club ballooning and landing shorter just for the sake of putting a “7” on the end of the iron at 35 degrees? Time to move past “tradition” and just play what makes the game fun for you.

      TMTC

      8 years ago

      Do the irons have stronger lofts?
      YES! ….. In Spades! Balls are straighter, a 7 iron has a 6 iron loft, yet launches the ball at the same as angle as the 7 iron of yesteryear.
      Are they going further this year than last year?
      YES! … With the new technology.
      Who cares who invented CF or who used it first, if it suites your eye better the originator, if it adds more forgiveness, gives you more distance or perhaps the more modern version, has been fine tuned or improved upon the original.
      BY THE WAY, I believe Tour Edge Exotics used CF first and everyone else followed them.
      TMTC

      Tye

      7 years ago

      Sir, I have to say that you are “wrong”. Everyone isn’t using the same technology out there and the “lofts” are not the main or deciding factors in today’s distance. Do cars from 3 years ago have the same technology in them now vs then? Answer is heck no. If you have a 3 year old car the newer version is light years ahead. Why not the same with golf. I’m not busting your balls here, I’m busting your logic. Now back to golf. I keep it in the mid to high 70’s and have room for improvement. However my previous Nike Vapor Fly Pro 7 iron with 32° lofts & XP 95 steel shafts were carrying 166-171 yards. Cool. They Apex CF16 7 iron in a 31° loft with the same shafts are carrying 184-191 yards. The same Apex 7 iron head in a Dynamic Gold S300 shaft hurled me to a 194-201 yard carry and everything is a tighter dispersion than I’ve ever had. These are the best clubs I’ve ever hit and I couldn’t get these numbers with Mizuno, Titleist, or Taylor Made with this type of effortless swing and feel. There is New technology and soneone has put it in these clubs cleverly.

      adan

      9 years ago

      Yes! I like them!

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      ryebread

      9 years ago

      Not to sound obnoxious, but didn’t Cleveland do this with the Altitudes a few years ago? Forged face inserts, hollow body/cup style design, progressive offset (though almost none), and progressive head design are all very similar.

      Admittedly, visually the Apex are superior. I also suspect the sound and feel will be better due to the TPU. Points to Callaway there (as long as they kept the offset down overall).

      Not knocking MGS here. I’m more curious about how this offering is received and sells.

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      Paul

      9 years ago

      Will we still be able to buy the original Apex once the new model is launched or will they withdraw them from stock to force us on to the new model?

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