First Look: Wilson Staff Triton Driver
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First Look: Wilson Staff Triton Driver

First Look: Wilson Staff Triton Driver

The 20 Second Intro

Model: Wilson Staff Triton
Available Lofts: 9, 10.5, 12
Stock Shaft: Aldila Rogue Tour Silver 125 MSI 60
Retail Price: $449.00, with ten no upcharge shaft options
Availability: Now

After seven weeks of Wilson’s sometimes entertaining and sometimes painful reality TV program Driver Vs Driver, we get the Wilson Staff Triton. The program itself was a bold experiment in product introduction and has created more Wilson Staff buzz than any product in recent memory. But now that the buzz is dying down, we’re left with one simple question: is this thing any good?

We had the opportunity to demo the Triton over the weekend and learned few things.

First – if you like low spin, low launch, you’re going to like this driver.
Second – if you like to tinker, you’re going to love this driver.
Third – if you’re in a sanctioned competition over the next few weeks, you can’t use this driver.
Fourth – the sound may be, uhh, an acquired taste.

So, does the Triton perform? And what, if anything, will the Driver Vs Driver experiment and the Triton itself do for the Wilson Staff brand? 

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The One That Made The Cut

Seven weeks ago, Wilson Golf President Tim Clarke told MyGolfSpy the goal of the Driver Vs Driver was to bring unique innovation and a world-class product to market. “That was the ultimate goal,” said Clarke. “And I will say, with confidence, that that has been accomplished.”

Well, if moveable weights and adjustability make you want to dance, this thing will have you doing the Southside Shuffle all night long with 218 possible configurations in a single head.

“It truly is a driver for every player,” says Wilson Staff Global R&D Director Michael Vrksa, “because of all the various fitting options that can be dialed in for everybody.”

Suffice it to say there’s an awful lot going on under the hood.

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Fitter’s Delight?

The Triton’s 460cc head features a golf-ball width alignment aid on the crown, what Wilson is calling it 1:1 Visible Swing Active Technology. It’s supposed to help the golfer hit the sweet spot more consistently, but the social media world has gone all torches and pitchforks over it ever since the Driver Vs Driver finale. The stripe, combined with Triton’s more angular head shape, may be off-putting to some, but we found the stripe itself to be virtually unnoticeable while swinging.

We’ll need more demo time to determine if it’s at all helpful. If it’s not, then what’s the point?

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If you prefer a driver that sits open at address, you won’t like the Triton one bit. It sits dramatically closed, and you have the ability to close it even more.

The fun starts when you turn the Triton over.

There you’ll find two interchangeable sole plates: a 22-gram titanium plate to give the Triton a lower center of gravity, high launch and low spin, which Wilson says will fit the majority of players. The lighter 9-gram carbon fiber sole plate gives the club a higher CG and produces a more penetrating ball flight and even lower spin.

“The sole plate is where we’re going to see big launch and spin differences. That’s where we get truly optimized.” – Michael Vrksa

Hidden under the sole plates are three weight ports for five interchangeable weights: a pair of two-gram weights, two six-gram weights, and a 12-gram weight.

“We have 18 different possible combinations with those weights,” says Vrska. “We can fine-tune ball flight bias from severe draw to severe fade to high and low and everywhere in between.”

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The Triton comes in three lofts – 9, 10.5 and 12 degrees – and each is adjustable +/-one degree with Wilson’s Fast Fit hosel. It’s the same hosel used in Wilson’s FG Tour F5 driver, but with a slight twist.

“What we call the ‘clocking,’ or the angle it goes into the head is slightly different,” says Vrska. “The F5 clocking has six different loft settings, but the Triton has three loft settings – Standard, plus one degree and minus one degree – and then we have those same three settings, but each with a draw bias.”

So what you have is a driver with two different sole plates, 18 different movable weight configurations, three different loft settings and two different face angle settings. Some quick math says that’s 218 possible configurations for the Triton.

And when you factor it 14 different no-upcharge shaft options, you’re talking over 3,000 possibilities. Even the most experienced tinkerer may want some help.

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Too Complicated?

“Complex, maybe,” says Vrska. “But not complicated. You’re going to know which sole plate is for you pretty quickly, and you’re going to know pretty quickly which shaft works for you.”

Wilson provides a template showing options for the movable weights and the impact each has on ball flight. If you want, a draw bias put the heavy weight in the heel. If you want a fade put it in the toe. If you want lower ball flight put the lighter weight in the back. For higher, put the heavy weight in the back.

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Complex? Absolutely. The Triton may be the most adjustable driver in the game, and while the Adjustable Weight template is pretty self-explanatory, many golfers may want some help finding the right setup. Wilson has launched an aggressive training program for fitters and retailers, offering a series of web-based training videos on proper fitting techniques.

Wilson is going real-deal with an aggressive no-upcharge premium shaft offering. The Aldila Rogue Tour Silver 125 MSI 60 is stock in S and X flex, and the Rogue Black 95 MSI 60 is stock in Senior and Regular flex (it’s also available as an option in S and X flexes).

Vrska tells MyGolfSpy there are no plans for companion fairway metal woods or hybrids at this time. “That doesn’t mean there couldn’t be in the future, but some of the adjustability would difficult to scale size-wise and cost-wise for fairways and hybrids.”

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Our Demo

So with all the hype, does the Triton perform? We demoed a 9-degree Triton in its stock configuration: the 9-gram carbon fiber sole plate with the 12-gram weight in the rear and 6-gram weights on the wings, and the stock Aldila Rogue shaft in stiff. Wilson’s fitting chart says this is a neutral bias, higher launch setup. I compared it to my current gamer, the Nike Vapor Flex 440 with a Fujikura Pro Tour Spec 73 shaft, also set to 9 degrees with the flight pod set to low flight. Swing speeds with both clubs averaged just under 100 MPH.

We can say with all certainly, the Triton is very much low launch and low spin, is plenty long and with its closed face creates an almost automatic draw.

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With the Nike, we averaged a 13.5-degree launch angle, 2,325 RPM spin, 240 yards carry distance and 261 yards total distance.

With the off the rack, non-optimized Triton, we averaged a 14.3-degree launch angle, 1,980 RPM spin, 247 yards carry distance and 270 yards total distance.

Performance-wise, it’s fair to say the Triton is legit, and we’re curious to see what a full-fledged fitting would bring to the table.

Much has been made of the Triton’s sound at impact, but in reality, the sound is very similar to Wilson’s FG Tour F5 driver. It is, however, very different from virtually every other driver out there. It’s an almost hollow-block type of sound; not loud in reality, but it is so different that it may appear loud to some.

One last item we learned over the weekend: the Triton has not yet received USGA approval. Wilson’s local rep told us that the company didn’t send samples to the USGA until just before the finale aired last week, preferring to keep the winning design secret for as long as possible. Wilson is confident the USGA will give its blessings to the Triton, with full approval expected within the next couple of weeks.

What’s In It For Wilson?

Make no mistake, while Driver Vs Driver produced an actual crowd-sourced driver that you can buy (and Wilson has committed the Triton to MyGolfSpy’s 2017 Most Wanted Driver Testing), the program was first and foremost a branding exercise. For the first time in a long time, Wilson is elbowing its way onto the main stage.

“It doesn’t have to be the number one selling driver in the marketplace for us to be successful. If it happens, that’s wonderful. The goal is to build the brand, sell some drivers and let people know and understand what Wilson Staff and Wilson Golf is all about.” – Michael Vrska

Wilson’s irons lineup can compete toe-to-toe with anyone’s. Its driver lineup has been solid but, to be blunt, unspectacular.

For better or for worse, drivers drive market share. It’s a halo product. When your driver sells, fairway metal woods, hybrids, irons and wedges follow. A challenger brand, such as Wilson, can grow incrementally without an attention-getting driver, but there’s only so far you can go with that big of a hole in your lineup.

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If Triton can fill that hole and perform as Wilson hopes it will, the slow, steady growth Wilson has experienced over the past several years might just get a boost. If it doesn’t, Wilson will at least benefit from seven weeks of fairly high profile brand building on the Golf Channel.

Will the entire effort be successful? It depends on how you define success. If the only way you define success is the Triton outselling TaylorMade and Callaway, then you don’t have to wait for an answer – it more than likely won’t. But brand building doesn’t always have an immediate impact on overall sales or market share. Its impact is usually felt over time.

Sure, there are short-term measurables: how many Tritons did Wilson sell? Did 4th Quarter sales get a bump? The longer view – and challenger brands by definition don’t live quarter to quarter – is more wide-ranging and overall success can’t be judged for at least 12 to 24 months. The questions are different: is overall market share increasing? Are full-line sales growing at the same rate as before the show, or is there a meaningful spike in sales growth? Is that spike sustainable?

These are the questions that matter, and the answers will determine whether Driver Vs Driver did, in fact, break new ground in product introduction and company branding, or if it was merely a fun seven-week miniseries.

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      joro

      5 years ago

      Don’t knock it till you try it and most of these nay sayers have not done that. I also have the Cortex and the Triton is longer and straighter for me. The sound is much better after seeing the results. And it IS legal as long as it has the DVD on the soleplate.

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      aj

      6 years ago

      Hi,
      i did buy it on amazon for 128$s for curiosity sake. And got it to India.

      I play the 440cc optiforce and before that the Callaway X hot 460 cc.
      I have demoed the Titliest 917 D3 & D2. ( D2 is what i want to Bag).
      But that was before an extensive swing change.

      I maybe in the minority, but this sounds clunky yes, but its the easiest Driver i have hit.

      The lighter graphite weight did not work for me . It was so much fun, i went to a par 5 of our local course and hit different balls and tried the weight. The heavier weight was longer by a good 20 yards for me. And it went straight….

      Shaft that I got is the 95 in regular.

      The result was actually spectacular. I really did not expect much, specially after reading all the comments.

      Usually for me I go straight from the parking lot to the tee , i end up hitting a crisp slice!
      This one is easy to align, and ball goes off like a rocket.

      Many of you are great players, one may give you the old wood and you guys may hit it miles, but for players like me,With my other drivers I carried 235- 240 with little or no roll and the occasional slice, This one is yet to slice, and carried 245-250 Consistently for me that was the key.

      End December am gonna take the 917 D2 and this to the par 5 and compare.

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      Berniez40

      7 years ago

      I didn’t get to watch the show as I refuse to pay the cable bill necessary to garner the Golf Channel. However, I read about the show, and even thought of getting together with an old golf pro who fits and rebuilds clubs to take a swipe at this competition. We never quite got past the drawing board.
      I recently demoed the Triton. It is as long as my Taylormade M2, and “feels” very good. Keep in mind that I am taking the sound factor out of the actual feel, which is hard for most people to do, as we use our sense of sound to judge our shots. (To try this theory, go to the range next time wearing ear plugs, and watch your consistency fall off the bottom of the charts.) Sound wise this think is a bit of a clinker, and at $450 a pop, that’s a more than a little disappointing.
      Kudos to Wilson Staff for bringing a viable driver to market. I used to play their irons religiously, and even though I prefer my Srixon Irons now, I game the Wilson Staff Duo Series of balls. The Duo two piece in winter, the Duo Spin in Spring and Summer, and the Duo Urethane when my game is on. Wilson Staff has worked hard to regain their market share, and this club at least deserves more than a casual glance.

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      Schlitzer

      7 years ago

      Tested the Triton at local pro shop. I average back spin with a driver is around 2800. (Yes I have a steep swing) I hit about 50 balls with the Triton stock Aldila shaft same flex and loft I have in my F5. My average back spin went to 1950. Average carry for me is 275. With Triton 295.

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      Johnnie McFarland

      7 years ago

      What is going to happen with the other two prototypes that did not make the cut?

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      Joekelli

      7 years ago

      That address picture does not look like what I saw at address when I tested one.

      http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161126/f6d5b5ead783bbe579912045c740d1c0.jpg

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      Michael Albrecht

      7 years ago

      This thing is legit. I tested this along with 5 others. Came down to Wilson vs Titleist D3. Only downside to this club is look and feel. Titleist with the speeder 74 shaft and 8.5 degree performed a little bit better and definitely had a better feel and look. I’ve played the 913 and 915 previously.

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      cksurfdude

      7 years ago

      So… How much of that $449 goes to covering expenses for the show plus the winner’s prize….

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      James

      7 years ago

      $448

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      darren g

      7 years ago

      If they want to take on the big guys then drop the price to 300 or less, I switched to Taylor made a few years back and tried others but always went back to my R1(I have an m2 also but prefer the r1) $299 I Would definitely buy one. I just hope they will have the shaft adapters ready for sale also.

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      Ryebread

      7 years ago

      I’ve seen it and, well, uhm, it is ugly. I’m normally of the camp that doesn’t care about looks, but it is almost like there are two drivers. The sole really looks good. The crown and address position look like something from a house brand or component maker.

      If it is indeed low launch and low spin, then it is an odd club. I can’t see this one selling well.

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      tony whiles

      7 years ago

      Would really like an opportunity to be one of the first people in my area to get a first swing on one of these bad boy’s. If you need a mid level handicap player to give it a test, please contact me. Use to play a lot of wilson products, still use the duo ball. Great products.

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      Ole Gray

      7 years ago

      Maybe at the mother effin THP Staff Proto the 30 handicappers will declare this the driver of 2017. Silk screen the tour van.

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      Javier Vigil

      7 years ago

      All I hear is the issue about non-conformity, what does that matter unless you are playing in PGA tour/ sanctioned events? I agree that the show was a bit boring, however it did offer some insight into the process of R&D, marketing, and manufacturing of a golf product, which was interesting if you’ve never understood or have seen the process. I have yet to try this driver and probably won’t until next summer, I live in Alaska, so we won’t see it until then, bummer. All I can say is try it and make your opinion, don’t just base it on pictures and how it looks, as I tell my kids, try it before you decide you don’t like it, how can you assume you won’t like it until you try it?

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      James

      7 years ago

      Javier…. I’m with you on the “looks” thing. I’d hit something that looked like an 18th century chastity belt if it smacked the ball significantly further than my current driver.

      But on the non-conformity issue, if you go that route you are kinda obligated to let members of your group know… especially if you’re betting a few bucks.

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      John Barba

      7 years ago

      My guess is the conformity issue will be a non-issue in about 2 to 3 weeks. They simply didn’t submit it to the USGA until just before the show aired for secrecy. They selected the winning design in July and somehow managed to keep the whole thing under wraps for more than 4 months. That may be the most impressive feat of all…

      Javier Vigil

      7 years ago

      Forgot something, if you didn’t actually watch the d vs d let me fill you in, the reason for the stripe is that the inventor believed that it actually made you hit the ball more in the center because your eye inadvertently draws they line through it, he had not done any official test and the judges were skeptical, but he was adamant about the fact that when it wasn’t on the driver he wasn’t hitting the center as often. I believe that there was testing done to test that theory, but if there was it wasn’t shown on tv. Try it on your driver and do your own test, but I think he is right, even Kevin Streelman liked the stripe and felt it almost drew a line to the ball. Here’s the thing about innovation, if you change something too much, even if it is better and it does everything you want it to, most people will fight it because it is to radical and to different, change is hard and we fight it just as hard because it is something new and unknown. Ok sorry off my soapbox, the best thing you can do for yourself and your game is to try these clubs with an open mind and make an informed decision, which some have. Ok, go have fun

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      Todd Addison

      7 years ago

      Shaft is great. To loud. Heel shots lose more distance that XR.

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      Jack Wullkotte

      7 years ago

      Driver vs Driver is the most boring television show ever. I watched excerpts here and there. It was worse than watching a soap opera.

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      Travis Eckard

      7 years ago

      Big turd!!
      Wait till spring and it will be 59.99 blue light special.

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      Scoot24

      7 years ago

      According to who? You? This will only happen if people like you who are biased towards the companies who spend a lot of advertising money (Taylormade, Calloway) don’t buy a superior product. If that’s what happens it looks lie I’ll have a top performing driver for $59.99!

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      Price Asna Wati

      7 years ago

      who make driver vs driver i never tell it for me my driver all so good

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      Andrew Rogers

      7 years ago

      Geneo this was the show I mentioned

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      Thomas Aulik

      7 years ago

      Not conforming yet

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      Paul McLaughlin

      7 years ago

      Personally, Wilson along with Cobra are vastly underrated.

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      Scoot24

      7 years ago

      I agree that they both make great products but don’t feel they are underrated as much as under-purchased. All of the unbiased (such as on this site) reviews I have read rate both of them very high. They just don’t get the publicity of the big names that currently are struggling. I plan to buy a new driver before next spring and am leaning towards a Cobra.

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      Jeremy Ellis

      7 years ago

      270 yards with a sub-100 MPH SS? Did you test it on a skating rink?

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      Devon Mix

      7 years ago

      It sounds fun. time to test ut out

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      Uhit

      7 years ago

      Exactly…

      The weight difference between the lightest and the heaviest setting is 27g !
      (Which is a bigger difference than taking the sliding weights out of the M1)

      That alone is pretty impressive.

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      Jay Are Martinson

      7 years ago

      $450 for a Wilson driver. Eh…

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      Scoot24

      7 years ago

      Wilson Staff has consistently made some of the best irons you can buy what makes you think that they can’t make a great driver? Start following unbiased reviews like My Golf Spy and quit reading articles in magazines who make their revenue from advertisements for Taylormade and Calloway and you’ll see a different story.

      James

      7 years ago

      Scoot, directly from this My GolfSpy article… “Wilson’s irons lineup can compete toe-to-toe with anyone’s. Its driver lineup has been solid but, to be blunt, unspectacular.”

      Scoot24

      7 years ago

      Precisely, look at the unbiased tests, try it yourself and then decide if it’s worthy of gaming. Don’t make your decision on the fact that it’s a WS and, of course price does come into the equation. An M1 is $500.

      Jason K Wroblewsky

      7 years ago

      Well all I can say is that this driver is legit imo! Hit it at my favorite Golf Town here in CalgarIy, AB and I really liked it. Didn’t mess around with any settings and was carrying just as good or better than any other driver out there right now. None of the negative feed back from others on this post bothered me at all. The swing weight felt great in my hands and I felt confident I could bomb it. Only mistake imo Wilson has made is the price. It’s priced higher than all other major drivers and if they’d priced it slightly lower then competition, the driver would be flying off the shelves.

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      Lebobski

      7 years ago

      Nice J. Geils reference.

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      John Barba

      7 years ago

      Glad someone picked up on it ;-)

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      Dale Smith

      7 years ago

      I have hit pretty much every driver out and this driver held its on. I didn’t mind the strip on top. It didn’t affect my eyes any. The sound is a bit loud but not anywhere as loud as a Grenade driver. It’s pretty forgiving driver but I found it to be to light for my liking. I think that can be fixed with a different shaft. I am not a fan of the Rogue. My swing speed is around 124 and put 334 with crap balls. I use a 913 D3 driver now and typically hit 309 on a normal day. Overall I feel Wilson made a good driver. When the price comes down, I will pick one up.

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      RonF

      7 years ago

      I seen it at Golftown. I like the strip and the sole plate. If you take time to learn the weight system and get fitted with the right shaft I think it will be great. The only thing I was disappointed in no one has said if it improved the distance in the drive that is what counts. Also I wish the show would have showed a segment with the average golf trying the promo club and not all the PGA/Rich people trying to hit it. That would give the show some more bite in the market right off the bat.

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      Denny Crane

      7 years ago

      The only Driver I would at $499 for is the KRANK F6.5
      I wasn’t impressed with the show, other than the hostess nor the expectations of the “Panel” to expect the participants to be able to produce something their full-time Bonafide, educated engineers couldn’t. In fact if I was their engineering team I’d be taken back in the least that they’re not given the green light to produce anything they want and if it passes USGA we’ll great we can sell it.
      I give it and the show a capital D-

      DC

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      Bagger

      7 years ago

      Had Krank F5… wasn’t worth 5 bills. No adjustability and cracked second range session.

      The only club I would pay close to MSRP is the upcoming Epic

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      Tom Duckworth

      7 years ago

      The numbers sound good and that’s what counts how it preforms.
      I didn’t think about how this may get Wilson irons more visible in store and more brand recognition all good for Wilson. I hope more people give their irons a try. Just nice to see an old school name making a comeback. Played Wilson back in the 70s and 80s

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      Deadeye

      7 years ago

      I am not a fan of adjustability but many players are and I think this club will sell. A lot. I was reading an old Tom Wishon article this morning and I agreed with him: most golfers play with too little loft, too long a shaft and too stiff a shaft. So I went to my garage, where uncooperative clubs go for “time out”, and retrieved a driver that belonged to my daughter. A five year old Cleveland 270 gram with a 44 inch A shaft of 39 grams draw bias (closed) face at 12 degrees of loft. I thought that this club will take me in the direction mr Wishon thinks we should go. I took it to the range and was pleased and surprised to pick up10 yards distance and much straighter ball flight. It went in the bag and plays tomorrow. Thanks to Tom Wishon and good luck Wilson Golf. Sometimes we have to go backwards to move forward.

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      Dave Conner

      7 years ago

      I’ll look at the M-2 then . I was hoping that this was the club for me but the price and the closed face is not for me and I like Wilson staff but what a waste of time that show was . I wish I had a club speed of 100 then maybe that club would work but I have a club speed of about 85-90 and I can’t seem to find the right club that helps anybody out there that can give me any tips ?

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      Brian Watts

      7 years ago

      Dave the biggest thing with any driver is to get properly fitted. With 85-90 mph speed if you can get a shaft head combo that gets your launch angle 12-15 degrees with spin say under 2800 you can be driving 230 to 240. It’s all about what’s right for your swing.

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      Mike Trussell

      7 years ago

      You might also want to demo the new Callaway BB Fusion with the recoil shaft.

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      Philip Zeller

      7 years ago

      Spend your money on A new shaft

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      Ryan Ennis

      7 years ago

      I think the way the toe is shaped gives it the appearance of being shut. If you put the sole up against a straight edge I think most of y’all would find that it’s not actually shut

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      Steven Walsh

      7 years ago

      I went into my local golf store yesterday and the local Wilson Staff rep was there demo-ing the driver. The rep explained exactly what was in the article. It was nice driver but I don’t think I will move from my M2 anytime soon.

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      RookieBlue7

      7 years ago

      The biggest failure of the whole club? It’s in stores and isn’t conforming. It’s not been ruled on yet.

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      Braden Powers

      7 years ago

      I love the stock shaft options. A rogue 125 MSI is in my current gamer. I will try to demo this and see the hype. It will probably be between the Epic and this Wilson for gamer next season.

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      Don

      7 years ago

      I tried it over the weekend and:

      I am not a fan of how it looks. If I owned one the first thing I would do is spraypaint the top of the clubhead.

      I did not really notice any difference in distance or accuracy compared to my cobra biocell+ (I am probably not savy enough to notice anyways).

      The sound really put me off.

      I need a new driver. I can’t say this will be one I consider.

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      Steve D'Andrea

      7 years ago

      The club might be real, but the show was horribly contrived, scripted and a poor ripoff of Shark Tank and American Idol. The hostess was the only redeeming factor.

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      Steve S

      7 years ago

      I’ll wait for the MGS driver test before judging. I might hit one too, if I can find anyone that has it….

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      Testout

      7 years ago

      This thing looks like a hook-machine for a better player. Too closed at address for a neutral setting.

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      Rich

      7 years ago

      I have tested the driver.I like: The Face smooth
      The tuning ability
      The shaft options
      The head shape and size
      Flight and Distance
      Accessories-tool kit ,extra plate option,extra weights
      The things I didn’t like: The sound( I believe I can fix the acoustics )
      Price. Too high
      The Wide stripe on top
      (I will cover over with faux carbon fiber print film.
      I’m excited about getting this baby out on the course and letting fly.

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      Mike

      7 years ago

      I have one on the way. Got it at a nice price, very nice price. New even, not even a $100. I’ve read some of the reply’s, biggest factor closed face. As a single digit handicap closed face is no concern. Tingy sound may freak me out. Your idea about fixing acoustics, is ?????

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      Mark

      7 years ago

      Not fond of the closed set up, if you are fighting a hook tendency or low ball flight, a closed face will hurt you.

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      Kevin Unterreiner

      7 years ago

      Hit it last weekend and really liked it. Plan on gaming it next season. Had put an alignment decal on my driver last season and it seemed to help so I like the look. Consistently was under 3000 spin for me which added distance.

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      OrangeHog

      7 years ago

      I love the fact that it can produce a near “automatic draw” and produced this kind of performance off the rack. The stripe on top looks silly and I wish they had gone with a more classic looking crown instead. All that said, I still struggle a bit with that price point for a new driver, regardless of the brand. If I can find one used down the road I’ll try it, but definitely not for that price point.

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      James

      7 years ago

      I’d spend $2000 on a driver if I hit it further and straighter than my current driver. You cannot put a price on being the longest in your foursome… or the longest on the course. Otherwise you’re just limping along being average or less than average. No fun in that. Don’t be the person that buys the drinks… be the person that drinks for free!

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      OrangeHog

      7 years ago

      Drive for show, putt for dough!!

      Joe

      7 years ago

      +1

      Scoot24

      7 years ago

      What is your handicap because where I play the high score buys the drinks? The consistent winners in my two foursomes I play in don’t drive 250 yards and consistently shoot in the 70’s. Like OrangeHog said, “drive for show putt for dough”.

      James

      7 years ago

      Scoot… yes, that’s what I said… don’t be the high score that buys the drinks. My GHIN handicap index is 3.1, just went up from a 2.9 and now the season is closed. Next time you’re in my area let’s play golf… I’ll beat you AND buy the drinks. :)

      James

      7 years ago

      … and I’ll even throw in a good Cuban cigar. Given that we can still purchase them.

      Scoot24

      7 years ago

      I’m just bantering with you because you seem like a competitive guy. I will give it to you that I’d rather hit a 100 yd wedge than a 150 yd iron. I’ve only been golfing for 3 years, other than a bunch of times as a teenager, and if I can get where I can hit a 300 yd drive in the fairway I could get my handicap below 10. I consistently drive it 250 straight but my accuracy from 150 is nowhere near what it is from 100. I’d love to play with you sometime, I’m sure you could give me some pointers.

      James

      7 years ago

      Scoot…. I’m always up for some good bantering. Now, if I could just putt…

      Scoot24

      7 years ago

      Yeah, I’m sure putting is the bane of many amateur golfers. It’s like shooting basketball. There’s a touch that some golfers have and most don’t. Like basketball it comes down to practice and most of us don’t practice putting with the exception of when we’re waiting for someone.

      Patrick Brendan Kahm

      7 years ago

      Id give it a whirl if it didn’t look 5* closed at address… I don’t understand that from W/S. They throw a freaking stock Rogue 125 MSI in this thing, but from address it looks like a super-game improvement driver. Nice on the no-upcharge shafts, but the golf-equipment junkies who even know about those types of shafts (especially a 125 MSI Rogue) aren’t biting on something that looks that closed at address.

      Reply

      Mike Mueller

      7 years ago

      Love the sole idea. But dear God it’s a red headed step child at address. Tour model that sits open, maybe?

      Reply

      Robin

      7 years ago

      I have red hair and I was a step child. I spent 5 years in the Marine Corp and three years on the there boxing team it made me understand I hate everyone.
      But I would love to play some golf with you.
      You might need a ride home by ambulance.

      Reply

      Marine Corps Veteran

      7 years ago

      Calm down there bubba…

      Carolina Golfer 2

      7 years ago

      Great read, well done!

      As for the driver, I held it in hand over the weekend, and i wasn’t put off by the looks at all. The stripe didn’t bother me, and I didn’t really notice the closed face, although I was really holding it in a true address mode.

      I will definitely give it a try as some point, but DaveMac has a good point, the low spin, low launch seems to target the better player (not exclusively, but in a wider scale) yet they will mostly be turned off by the closed face.

      Really curious to see how this one does.

      Reply

      jlukes

      7 years ago

      Wow that sits REALLY closed. I don’t see how any tour player would game that driver unless they make a Tour version that sits more square or even open a bit.

      Heck, I am not a tour player but that just looks plain awkward with how closed it is.

      Reply

      Chal

      7 years ago

      I loved the show and went out to test the head this weekend. Unfortunately, the place had the club and that was about it. I wasn’t able to switch anything on the head. So I was able to hit a stock shaft, with the head set at 9 degrees and no adjustability. Which was unfortunate. I think that with the correct face plate, movement of weights and an X-stiff shaft and I would have been able to hit some great shots.

      Reply

      DaveMac

      7 years ago

      I have already seen this in the flesh so to speak, it’s in stock in my local Americain Golf. This is one strange product, every bit as ugly as the pictures suggest. It looks like a super budget end driver head attached to an ultra premium shaft (Aldila Rogue Sliver 125 MSI).
      It’s a strange product because the shaft is aimed at a 110 mph probably better player while the super closed head is aimed at a 24 handicap slicer.
      I never seen the show but how this made it into production is a mystery to me.

      Reply

      Mike Lam

      7 years ago

      Finally someone I agree with. I work at a golf store and every employee and customer that has tried it out just laughed at it and think it’s a big joke.

      This club looks AND sounds like it belongs on a $99 rack at WalMart. I wouldn’t even pay that much for it.

      Reply

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