Why It Matters that TaylorMade’s New Irons are<br> “Tour Preferred”
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Why It Matters that TaylorMade’s New Irons are
“Tour Preferred”

Why It Matters that TaylorMade’s New Irons are<br> “Tour Preferred”
Somewhere along the way TaylorMade created a giant indecipherable mess, and in doing so all but completely devalued the “TP” moniker and that cool little badge that goes with it.

Written By: Tony Covey

So let’s recap the week so far. TaylorMade took a small group of media on a private jet ride to announce their new JetSpeed lineup.  Callaway announced X2 Hot while Cobra was busy announcing BiO Cell. And while those last two things were happening, TaylorMade went ahead and leaked some pics of their upcoming Forged (not in Mexico) MB irons on their Tour Diaries site.

If that wasn’t enough, pics of their also upcoming MC and CB irons (neither of which is forged in Mexico either) leaked as well, and while I can’t prove it, the images I’ve seen suggest that those too were leaked by TaylorMade, or at least someone at TaylorMade.

Why split hairs.

It’s the kind of thing that almost never happens at TaylorMade…unless TaylorMade wants it to.

At the heart of everything is this single image of the Tour MC iron, or more specifically, the TP badge on this MC iron.

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Sources at TaylorMade have gone out of their way to point out that the image above isn’t the final product; it’s a prototype. And when they say prototype, they mean an actual, legit, prototype, not one of those “SLDR is just a prototype” BS prototypes.

Those same sources would like you to know that the final version won’t have that TP badge; it will actually say “Tour Preferred”.

It’s really important that you know that. In fact, my suspicion is that the need to get right with the TP badge (or lack thereof) is what necessitated the leaking of the subsequent images.

The bottom line is that TaylorMade wants you to know that the new irons aren’t TP, they’re Tour Preferred.

Does it matter?

None of this TP/Tour Preferred thing gives any indication of whether or not the new products would give me a shot at taking another 9 holes from TaylorMade’s former iron guy. And it sure doesn’t give me any indication of whether or not I’d stand a better shot against new iron guy, Tomo Bystedt (after 2 holes he had me by 3. Tomo is no Brian Bazzel). None of this gives any indication if the new irons actually offer “Tour Preferred” Performance.

TP/Tour Preferred…Tomato/Tahmahto.

None of it really tells us much about anything, so why does it matter?

I’ve got a theory.

The Cheddar Era

Several years ago TaylorMade’s was entering into what has proven to be a highly successful time in the company’s history. It’s a time I like to call the Cheddar Era, because, well, there was a lot of cheese being tossed around.

They put shiny trinkets on the soles of their drivers.  They painted drivers white, and stenciled elaborate designs on their crowns. They launched with names like RocketBallz and RocketBladez.

Aspects of what they were doing were absolutely silly.

Even if silly had a purpose, even if silly worked (both at retail and on the course); silly cannot be denied.

Good product, sure. It all sold well, but the names…nonsense.

Success and cheesiness are far from mutually exclusive.

Love cheese, hate cheese…doesn’t matter; TaylorMade was selling it by the wheel.

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The Beginning of the End

If you asked me (and I don’t care for a second that you didn’t) TaylorMade’s Cheddar Era peaked with the LETHAL golf ball. It’s a damn good ball that nearly any company would be proud of, but the name was so bad that if you told me it was first written in spray cheese on a Triscuit, I’d believe you.

TaylorMade wasn’t even using real cheese anymore.

The time for change had arrived.

The Times They Are a Changing

We’d get a hell of a lot more done at MyGolfSpy if GolfSpy X and I didn’t spend so much time on the phone yammering about what we think might actually be going on with the various golf companies we cover. Nike, Cobra, Titleist, Callaway, and TaylorMade; all the time we’re trying to read between their lines.

For the better part of the last year, he and I have been in agreement that some sort of change was afoot at TaylorMade. We’d look at changes in social media, and the ways and the force with which new products were launched and marketed.  Some sort of change – even if we couldn’t say exactly what it was – was most certainly taking place.

We definitely weren’t always in agreement about what that change might be or whether or not it was for the better, but I’m more confident than ever that a fundamental shift in philosophy is taking place.

The Era of Cheddar is almost over.

Yes…I know… SpeedBlade, JetSpeed, they’re both a little cheesy, but you know how it is with cheese; sometimes it lingers.

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What The Hell Does This Have to Do with the New Irons?

Relax. I’m almost there…

The Tour is an integral part of any big golf company’s success. Tour validation is requisite in nearly every model, and to achieve that perception during the Cheddar Era, TaylorMade made a habit of using “Tour” and “TP” (originally short for Tour Preferred) everywhere and anywhere they could.

Once upon a time the TP badge was reserved for those products that were actually used by Tour Pros (more or less), and actually targeted better players. TP was serious business.

Over time TaylorMade got a bit promiscuous with the TP label, with the ultimate result of evolution being that TP was used for little more than to designate that a particular golf club had a “real” aftermarket shaft in it.

While that transformation was taking place, TaylorMade was using the “Tour” moniker to denote subtle differences in heads from the same series. The “Tour” head might have slightly different weighting (neutral bias), and produce slightly different launch characteristics, but pound for pound the products were more similar than not.

While the consumer was trying to decipher how RocketBallz differed from RocketBallz Tour, and those two differed from differed from RocketBallz TP, and how those three differed from RocketBallz Tour TP; for those in the know, the real challenge was to figure out how any of those 4 products differed from the “Tour Issue” stuff that TaylorMade’s Tour guys were actually using.

Somewhere along the way TaylorMade created a giant indecipherable mess, and in doing so all but completely devalued the “TP” moniker and that cool little badge that goes with it.

And that is precisely what this whole TP/Tour Preferred thing matters.

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Finally Getting Serious Again

While it’s taken some time to shake out, it would appear that the acquisition of Adams Golf has given TaylorMade proper the ability and flexibility to get serious again.

Since the time of the Adams purchase TaylorMade has talked about their position as a brand for better players. While up until this point that hasn’t really been reflected in the actual products, the new Tour Preferred iron lineup suggests that TaylorMade is once again serious about making product that are actually designed with better players in mind.

TaylorMade might finally be game for some real product differentiation.

To an extent the transition started with SLDR (smaller, more compact, hybrids and fairways, coupled with the general lack of distinctive “Tour Issue” drivers, and a rumored 430cc model on the way), but the new Tour Preferred lineup (which doesn’t appear to include a SpeedBladez Tour) goes a step further towards un-muddying the waters between TaylorMade’s products for better players, and TaylorMade’s products for the rest of us.

With TP…TaylorMade took a once-respected franchise and ran it into the ground. Whatever street cred TP had is long gone, by literally spelling it out for you (TOUR PREFERRED), I think TaylorMade believes they’ve still got a shot at recapturing the affections of the population of better golfers who have been put off by the company’s recent run of cheese.

Given the early response to the leaked photos, I think they’re probably right.

Have Your Say

Do you think something as subtle as the change from TP to Tour Preferred may actually signal a change in TaylorMade’s corporate philosophy? Do you think the Tour Preferred label will better resonate with the target audience (better golfers)?

As always, we’d love to hear your thoughts.

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      Rick

      10 years ago

      Up until about 5 Years ago I was a huge TM fan, loved there irons and drivers and fw metals, then they got ugly, came out with there tp irons with a stupid looking nut on the back of the club face, stupid names like rocketballz, went to that ugly yellow and white scheme on there metals. I was so turned off by all there new crap I went to titelist for there irons and metals. Back in august I tried out the new sldr driver and really liked it. Not only did it look nice but performed really well for me so I put it in the bag. I now have the 3 and 4 sldr hybrids and 3 wood. It’s nice to see Taylormade getting back to there roots. Still have my AP1s and vokey wedges, but those tp irons are looking pretty sweet and going to have to go out and try them as well as the new AP2s.

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      David

      10 years ago

      I have been a Taylormade loyal supporter for years I think TM put out some great products and the R11 irons were fantastic I think rather than slagging them off I think we should applauded them for putting out products for use to try and pushing the envelop .
      Dave

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      RP Jacobs II

      10 years ago

      I can’t argue with ya as I’ve played the TP’s and then the MP’s(60 series) since ’86 and currently have the 68s in my bag however a player/friend that I respect a lot and he plays in a couple of swats that I play in and he’s been Mizzy since I’ve know him for bout 7-8 years, well he currently plays the 63’s and he’s due for a new set due to wear.

      He hit both the MCs & MB and he was basically stunned by their performance.

      He wasn’t expecting much. Granted, he was on a mat due to snow(Pgh), however he loved the feel/sound. He’s going to bag em for a round or two when the weather clears to see how they play, though when he picked em up to hit, he thought that it was gonna be a one time deal.

      He said that they were firmer than the 63s, though by no means “harsh.” He felt that they felt much better than the Titleist CBs & MBs that he hit first.

      So, while I’m not advocating TMaG over Mizzy, I think any player owes it to themselves to at least hit em.

      Have a great Season & thank for Postin!

      Fairways & Greens My Friend,
      Richard

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      Dr Bones

      10 years ago

      You want forged irons? Mizuno, mizuno, mizuno

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      Lawrence

      10 years ago

      I saw the MC`S in person and can’t wait to hit them.Truly a spectacular looking players iron with some help in the long irons it appears. At address though they look as pure as pure can be and I anxiously await the demo days. Happy New Year to All!

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      RP Jacobs II

      10 years ago

      And a Happy, Healthy & Prosperous New to You :)

      Fairways & Greens My Friend,
      Richard

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      RP Jacobs II

      10 years ago

      And JOEL, my post was not aimed at you :)

      I isn’t mean to drop it as a reply beneath Tony’s-

      Due to your “seasoned” status, you can voice whatever opinions that ya want, lol

      Have a Happy & Healthy New Year and Year ahead My Friend,
      Richard

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      andrew

      10 years ago

      Ferrari used to improve its vehicles literally as they rolled out of the factory on a car to car basis. see where I’m going with this?

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      JOEL GOODMAN

      10 years ago

      Would it be reasonable to accuse TAYLORMADE of following CALLAWAY into the club of the month revolution. Introducing one “absolutely the best ever made club” each month seems to be the Callaway road to oblivion.. Is Taylormade that stupid too??????????
      What ever happened to making the best damned thing you could and then improving on it annually or biannually? Do the consumers really fall for this load of manure?

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      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      Joel,

      Not quite sure what you’re so worked up about this time. RBladez Tour is a year old, so there’s at least your argument for annually, and it’s been 3 seasons since TaylorMade released an MB or even a true MC iron. I’d say 3 years is plenty of time between releases.

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      RP Jacobs II

      10 years ago

      I don’t really understand the individuals who get all worked up over the number of releases an OEM has over a given period of time. If, when you go in to purchase whatever club(s) it is that you’re in the market for, and you get properly fitted, you will have “maximized” whatever technology coincides with your swing/game, both club wise & shaft wise.

      For anyone that’s played the game for any length of time, this “game” by the OEMs should be old hat, lol. I have a friend on Tour who played an ’08 TMaG driver through June of this year. He didn’t go apesh!t everytime TMaG released a new driver, and it’s safe to say that he could play whatever he chooses, lol.

      And regarding the devaluation of the clubs’ value, and I realize that many trade in their old clubs on the new, though seriously, there’s virtually no product that is “traded in” on a newer product(automobiles,), where the trade-in is “fair” or appropriate, the financial sleight of hand manipulations aside.

      I basically buy the best club for me at that time, and from that point on I concentrate on my swing, my game & maximizing that club’s performance.

      Try not to live and die on every release as though these OEMs just sent a personal “Fvck You very much” letter ta ya.

      And remember another thang-

      If these types of strategies/tactics didn’t pay off at the cash register, the OEMs wouldn’t be going down this road-

      And quit tryin to get “‘X’ more yards”

      Just learn ta hit the clubs in your bags-

      It might surprise ya just how effective that they “still” are, lol-

      Happy New Year to All-

      Fairways, Greens, Health & Prosperity My Friends,
      Richard

      BIG STU

      10 years ago

      I will say they look to be beautiful blades. That being said I would have to see and feel them in person to really form an opinion of how they would work for me. I would also have to take a look see as to how they would bend up to certain lofts and lies and the type of material they are forged from. with me I aint gonna play them stock out of the box anyhow. Would be curious to see if they feel as good as Mizuno or Miura. As far as loyalty to a brand I have none I have 5 different brands in my bag now which is sorta stable for me. I hit what works for me. As far as “politics” with these companies I could care less if Joe Blow used to work for Adams and then went to work for xyz golf when TM bought Adams.

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      dougie

      10 years ago

      Hey, I just saw this, and I don’t know how you came about this no tp stamp thing.. but I would be willing to wager my months salary on the fact that this will have a tp stamp. When I was in San Diego meeting with the tour rep, he made it clear that the prototype has tour preferred on the blade, but that they will be putting the tp stamp on the toe instead of the writing. I hit the MC’s and they were pretty sweet actually. But the Mb’s are the first classic blade from tm since the mb smoke series.

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      Ronniemac

      10 years ago

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      wiley245

      10 years ago

      It’s hard to put faith in a company that you have just purchases a set of TP irons, a set of white headed woods & a white headed putter from, for big bucks, only to find that you are now longer in Fashion and the re-sale value is next to zero because they are now 2-3 model old even though you have only had them 8 months. At some time way back when, you bought a set of clubs, played for 5-10 years and sold them to one of your friends for half of what you paid; what happened to those days?

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      Leftienige

      10 years ago

      To my tired old eyes that shield logo with 2 print colours inside looks very similar to the one Wilson Staff have been using for decades .
      Anybody know a good copyright lawyer ?

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      TakeawayDave

      10 years ago

      At 71 yrs old, I guess I’ve pretty much played most all of them (irons) all over the years. Re-gripped my current set of TM twice over a ten year period because I still love them.

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      Christopher

      10 years ago

      So I can play a Taylor Made ball and a mixed MB and MC set? Sounds like a LETHAL – COMBO to me …

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      Steve

      10 years ago

      I played TP/MB irons for over 10 years. I wanted something new and Taylormade never had a new option that was comparable. I just purchased Mizunos a month ago! They sure are nice.

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      Jeffrey Trigger

      10 years ago

      To those that say MyGolfSpy is a marketing website, are you crazy? While I’ve had my differences with Tony and the crew, they are far from the mega blitz of a website similar to the name rolfwrx. If a product is junk, this website says it. If the product is good, this website will say so. To be honest, TM produces solid equipment. I no longer think it was the elite equipment it was in the late 80’s or early 90’s, but if you are fit for it, there is a TM club that will allow you to play, and play well if you put in the time. You are just going to have to acknowledge that TM has an aggressive rollout and that those clubs you were fit for are going to have a very small trade in value. Which kind of stinks. I’ve had my R1 Black w/ Oban Kiyoshi White shaft for a few months, I’m willing to bet it’s not worth a 1/3 of what I paid for it.

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      RP Jacobs II

      10 years ago

      Excellent Post!

      Nicely stated!

      Fairways & Greens My Friend,
      Richard

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      NIck

      10 years ago

      I wish TM would come out with a better wedge. I’m excited to swing the new Tour Preferred irons next year, they look great.

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      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      Give them some time, Nick. It’s safe to assume that with a full compliment of new irons in the pipeline, a new wedge is almost certainly on the way as well.

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      Nick

      10 years ago

      I hope so. I feel like TM tries so hard to be the leader in innovation, which I believe they are, but they sometimes forget what works. Titleist and Cleveland have been at the top of the Wedge game for some time now and they continue to stick with the same formula. I’ve been on staff with TaylorMade for 7 years now and I’ve been disappointed with their wedges ever since they got rid of the RAC wedges. Both the XFT and ATV have fallen short in my opinion, they might be missing out on a chunk of the market.

      RON

      10 years ago

      CHOPPERSMAKE ME LAUGH Why dont you look at every single iron TM comes out with and the tour guys play different versions every one of them,doesnt that tell you ANYTHING or are you blind to whats going on. I know the guys out there get their personal grinds and makes but for you to tell me that people have different tastes and feel preferences is obvious I understand that but a clicky titleist feel which I think is good is completely different than the clicky CHEAP feel of TM irons. Clicky doesnt mean its poorly made its just a different sensation like a firmer solid click like most Titleist irons have and crisp firm like feel PING irons have and then you have soft mushy like scratch irons to a more soft click of a nike vr iron , then a solid soft of a mizzy. I UNDERSTAND those different feelings that different people like but TM irons have a cheap hollow feel and when a club has that type of feel its poorly made and you can take that to the bank. Trust me when I tell you this if it feels cheap to me I know the guys on tour wont like it. The guys on tour are not super human I HAVE PLAYED WITH ALOT OF THEM and I have beat alot of them in satellite tours here in Florida it all comes down to making the right putts at the right time Ive seen them make some hack shots so there not this SPECIAL human you think they are, they just have very good short games, I hit the ball just as good as they do if not better so for you to tell me I dont know what Iam talking about makes me look at you as a clueless moron.

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      Phil

      10 years ago

      Interesting article that affirms the belief that TM are losing a little of their credibility amongst “hardcore” golfers and are hoping to fix that by doing what they do best – marketing. Not a change in strategy but the illusion of a change in strategy.
      Changing from a logo to text shouldn’t have any effect (seeing as we golfers are all sensible, well balanced and thoughtful individuals) but as the comments section highlights – the TP logo is toast but Tour Preferred might just work…

      As for suggesting MGS is pandering to TM – i’m sure they are delighted to be told that they mainly deal in cheese… (facepalm)

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      RP Jacobs II

      10 years ago

      Nice article T-

      I couldn’t agree more on the brand devaluation that occured with the “TP” line. I’m not going to rehash what you and others have said, though I will say that TMaG is not alone, though their cheese was much larger, in much greater quantities & much sharper chedder than the others, however as the #1 OEM, this was to be expected.

      Look at Mizzy and the MP line. And before someone goes bananas and screams that they’re not in the same boat, you’re correct, however to a lesser degree, Mizzy has taken the MP line “down market.” Having played every TP/MP iron since 1986, save the MP-67s/57s(I bagged the Adams Pro Gold 3i-PW), when I saw the MP-69, well, I’ll leave it at it’s a GI muscle back. Having the 68s in my bag, and I realize that there’s only so much that you can do with a MB, however the thicker muscle-pad was done for one reason, to increase forgiveness enough to squeeze that handicap spectrum bar that they picture with their irons up a few strokes(from 7 to 9), thus increasing the potential market for the irons. Look at the MP-4, which is a true Mizuno MP iron, and you’re lookin at as beautiful a blade as you’re likely to find, and the bar is 0-4.

      However the abomination is the MP-H4 iron. The spectrum bar says 2-14, though for those that have PLAYED MP irons, well, this should be in the JPX line.

      WTF?

      It’s a frickin shovel for an MP iron, and there should be NO shovels in the MP line.

      However one saying that they play a “JPX” iron versus stating that they bag “MP” irons, well, ya get where I’m comin from.

      So even though on a much lower, more reserved, quieter scale, Mizzy took a page from the TMaG playbook, though I’ve gotta feeling that the Boys at Mizzy, USA would laugh at this.

      Back in the day, even though I didn’t bag TMaG clubs, when someone said that they bagged “TP” clubs, regardless of the club, it told me that they were probably a player & that they played “Players” clubs.

      I’m glad that they brought it back around.

      Those MBs are beautiful irons.

      And yea, I’ll hit/play em.

      That’s all TMaG can ask.

      Again, nice article

      Fairways & Greens 4ever

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      GolfSpy_Zinger

      10 years ago

      2014, the year RP bumps Mizuno for the new TP line. You heard it here first.

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      golfer4life

      10 years ago

      RP. Being a big fan of Mizuno I would love to argue a different point… But I can’t. Every time I look at the MP H4 I have a bit of a cringe. I believe you to be correct in saying it was done to put a MP line into a certain players hands that would normally not be able to play. And though I feel they are good clubs, I am really bothered by the EZ line name. When our rep told me about them coming out it took the wind out of my sails.
      I am looking forward to seeing the TM players irons. Hard to tell from picks I have seen but am having a hard time with the speed slot in a players iron. Kinda brings it down a couple notches seeing that in a players series. We will see!
      Cheers
      Brian

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      RP Jacobs II

      10 years ago

      Hey Brian, I hope that all’s well.

      I think the same on the “EZ” line name. As you said, they’re probably excellent irons, however that name just doesn’t ring “Mizzy.” TMaG, Cally or Cobra, yep, however, not Mizzy, though, the times they are a changin, lol.

      I really do try to keep an open mind till I hit/play a club, and this MB is beautiful. HaHa, I’m a little superficial when it comes to the cosmetics of my women & my irons, lol.

      Well, have a Happy, Healthy & Prosperous Holiday Season & please, drop back in the forum if time permits.

      Fairways & Greens My Friend,
      Richard

      Con

      10 years ago

      TM releasing equipment so regularly does not mean we have to rush out and buy. Just enjoy all the releases. They are far from destroying the industry, rather giving us gear heads more to chat about.

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      GolfSpy_Zinger

      10 years ago

      Well said

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      choppersmakemelaugh

      10 years ago

      I think a lot of choppers out there forget about the fact that some golfers do need new clubs this week. Therefore, options are always nice to have! Especially when it is the latest in technology. I don’t know about the rest of you but when I buy a new stick I don’t want it to be over a yr old in the tech dept like some companies have. I want it to be ahead of the curve!

      SPY Forged in Mexico ZINGER

      10 years ago

      I have seen a lot of discussion of late. Much of it has resulted in MGS having to defend a position that really does not need to be defended.

      Seems like the readerhip has a sour taste in their Perky Jerky lately. It’s upsetting to some that MGS takes the time to cover the latest news in golf equipment. It’s a supplement to the other content that makes the site the best in golf. TaylorMade has gone out of their way lately to launch their equipment. Now, more than ever, they are fighting to stay ahead of the pack while the industry is gaining ground. So, they invite us to be a part of it. Let me be the first to tell you, that is where it stops. There is no expectation of coverage by TaylorMade, and there certainly isn’t a MGS direction position handed to the staffer that writes about it.

      It’s covering a story. It’s no different than the Wall Street Journal drafting an article about the latest iPhone launch. Product releases are going to continue to happen in any industry. When companies or brands go over the top to bring something to market, it’s news. It’s no different in golf media. Golf equipment journalists covering golf equipment.

      I just do not get the position that some readers maintain. That if a brand is covered, discussed, or written about, there is an assumed underlying bias. If new equipment comes to market, are we supposed to keep quiet?

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      Ron

      10 years ago

      They use to have nice quality drivers back in the day, today they have great research and developement dont get me wrong, BUT there quality make of all of their products retail wise has gone to hell in a hand bag. Just listen to the sounds their drivers make today , its terrible but they do come up with great ideas and technoligy thanks to their very good research and developement, but they ruin it by making the product as cheap as they can make it, thats Taylormade in a nut shell.

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      Sean

      10 years ago

      @DK since you are in industry guy, how many old models do you see sitting on the shelf? I walk into my local golf stores and see stuff they can’t make a profit on because it price dropped again this week. Some people love to have first crack at clubs (like me) and when they price drop two weeks after the release (r1 and RBZ stage 2) it really pisses customers off. And tell me which good iron came out late summer this year? The RBZ Tour was not a summer release but I guess you could call the speedblade a summer release? I would say when and if these irons release this year, it would be a player iron in the winter. That does not make sense. In the industry myself (working in clubs and working in a store) I see this everyday. I’m not just speaking for myself, I speak for the vast majority of people that I talk to. I love the TM company… I really do, they have done some great things in the past. Sadly, the last couple of years I have witnessed the decline in the customer model for invested players in their brand. That’s why I said what I said. I sent the same feedback directly to TM. Just my thoughts…

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      SPY Titleist Oucast ZINGER

      10 years ago

      Wait, so they’re not forged in Mexicali?

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      Pim

      10 years ago

      @larenjoh: I can’t care less about TM or any other golfbrand, i’m nog a fan of any of them(maybe muira ;)). That’s why I’m hoping what they are saying is true; more focus on extensive review and statistics in the future!

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      larenjoh

      10 years ago

      Obligatory “I hate TM because they make so many products rant even though it has nothing to do with this article”. Seriously? TM isn’t ruining golf. YOU are.

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      Dude McDude

      10 years ago

      This article just proves how much of a joke this website really is now. You bash the not so popular companies for trying to stay afloat *cough Cleveland* and just ride TM’s d*#@ into oblivion. They are ruining golf with all the crap they are releasing so often.

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      flaglfr

      10 years ago

      The big thing to garner out of this article (IMHO) is that TaylorMade is being Taylormade. They still release SO many products in such a short period as to relegate nearly everyone with half a brain to consider them the masters of the golf infomercial. Hawking god knows what at all hours and telling you that you can’t live without it. Yeah some of their stuff is good, but you have to wade through so much crap to get to it that it’s nearly not worth it.

      By the way…. If they start to go on late night TV to hawk all the left over R1’s with the frat house sweater on them, I want a royalty payment.

      As for the site, I see things here that I see nowhere else. While it may not be nirvana for all, what is? I think the job being done is good. Keep it up.

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      RON

      10 years ago

      mygolfspy these wont be quality because none of their irons ever were Id be playing golf my whole life and went through numerous irons and I know quality when I feel it and see it and this company for some reason I would imagine its ads and tour guys contract payments is the reason why, but theres something about their forgings thats just not right when I try them. Also the tour guys dont like them thats why TM has different versions for them to use on tour. I have played this crazy game since I was 13 Im now 45 and beleive me I had tons of irons to this day and TM always feel the worst in quality and Im extremely good at feeling this , not trying to brag or anything like that. This company is not TM anymore its Adidas AND THEY ARE ALL ABOUT MARKETING.

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      choppersmakemelaugh

      10 years ago

      RON

      You need to stop talking already.. You words have no validity to them! You are great at feeling?? Feeling is a personal preference chopper, not a universal thing! Some folks like hard, some folks like soft and believe it or not some folks like the feel of cast!

      You have been playing the game for 22 yrs and you obviously haven’t learned sh!t. Tour players are so good that (Weight for it..) companies will actually grind their personal irons to their individual preference on offset and head shape. I have seen this on numerious occasions from players bags from all companies..

      The deal is you don’t have to play any of TaylorMade’s clubs! Matter of fact they prob would prefer an @$$ like you not play the clubs, that way they wouldn’t have to deal with you complaining about some nonsense you tried to complain about.

      I think the article was very imformative in the direction TMAG has gone. Yes, a lot is marketing but in case you haven’t noticed all of SPORTS is revolved around marketing now. Unfortunately, it has even crept into golf!

      I can’t wait for these irons to come out. I’ve seen them all and I can assure you a lot of you haters will be making a switch!

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      carlito

      10 years ago

      i have never read an article here so weirdly written?
      what on earth is this paragraph? can somebody please explain it to me and the “mexican forged” jokes? what on earth?:
      :None of this TP/Tour Preferred thing gives any indication of whether or not the new products would give me a shot at taking another 9 holes from TaylorMade’s former iron guy. And it sure doesn’t give me any indication of whether or not I’d stand a better shot against new iron guy, Tomo Bystedt (after 2 holes he had me by 3. Tomo is no Brian Bazzel). None of this gives any indication if the new irons actually offer “Tour Preferred” Performance.”

      WTF????

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      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      A couple of semi-inside jokes…I do that from time to time.

      Re: Mexican Forged, read the comments in the JetSpeed Launch article.
      Re: Everything else, read the SpeedBladez launch article.

      Reply

      LSamAdams08

      10 years ago

      I’m not sure what Pim has been reading but it can’t be MyGolfSpy. This website IS the leader for up-to-date golf equipment information that IS NOT tampered with by manufacturers. Sorry you haven’t found a site that suits your warped perception. Please, do us all a favor and stick with golfwrx. Keep up the good work MyGolfSpy, you guys are great.

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      Jmiller065

      10 years ago

      I know that I used to play TMaG Rescue Dual TP 19* hybrid for a long time when the TP actually meant different specs. I also played a 460 SuperQuad for awhile back in 2008 roughly. I actually liked those products, but I haven’t liked a TMaG product sense then.

      My hate for TMaG started when TP became a shaft option and some ads started getting cheesy and making dumb claims. Lets face it when yo make a claim of “17+ yards gained” on a fairway wood then in fine print say “17yards based on r9 vs rocketballz at 150mph ball speed”. Shit I think most people would be pumped to have 150mph ball speed on a Driver let alone a fairway wood. Then the freaking cheesy ass names to irons started rolling off. Rocketbladz, Speedbladz that are not even remotely close to a MB aka “blade”.

      I flat out have avoided TMaG products for a long ass time. I think with the SLDR really the first product targeted at a better player with what I hear is super low spin and most people that have average swing speeds have to go from a 9.5* loft to a 10.5* loft to keep it in the air. Maybe the Tour Preferred thing with a new MB, MC, CB line will help them get back to what people thought of them in 2005-2008 a club that had TP for the better players.

      Will the better player crowed go out and buy the irons, maybe some will that are already fans of the TMaG company. I play blades so I’ll keep my opinion to that… W/S FG62 is a great blade, Mizuno MP-4 MB is a great blade, Fourteen FH1000 is a great blade, Scratch has a good blade, Adams even has a decent blade minus the offset.

      Do the better players that actually play blades going to run out and buy a new MB from TMaG some might if they like the brand, I’ll give them a try doesn’t mean it will make me buy. TMaG will have to do a lot more then just start going in that direction of coming back with better player lines. I know that I have my 2 or 3 brands I look at first then consider other potentials TMaG isn’t one of them in the 2 or 3.

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      Foz

      10 years ago

      Don’t worry MGS,

      There are more of us out there that are interested in the in-depth reporting that you provide on the golf industry. Reading the blogs at MGS are far more interesting than reading the other golf forums or the local newspaper. You not only provide quality info, but you also provide it in an interesting and enjoyable format. I am glad to be a member of MGS.

      Thanks much for all you do!

      Reply

      Sean

      10 years ago

      I have played taylormade exclusively for the last 6 years. When they were a simple and humble company like I knew when I started playing with their stuff, it’s was fantastic. These days I have grown to be more and more disenchanted with their products, pricing structure, and quality control. I remember I had to return the r11 driver 4 times because of paint crack issues. Irons have been horrible cavity backs and the R1 was a joke. I called TM several times about the issues and they all seem to not care about us. Even when escalating my concerns to a higher level in the company they transfer you back down to a call center and won’t listen to you. I can’t honestly tell you why I still play their stuff, I’m a sucker I guess, wanting to believe they Are better than they act and want to do the right thing. It’s just very sad to see a company that did so well for so long kill the TP that I fell in love with years ago. Doubtful they will be able to recover the TP name on a players club again. Watch the episode of undercover boss with TM and they look like they really care about their product and quality, sadly consumers don’t see it when it hits the stores. Buy full price on launch day and in two weeks we will price drop it, yours will break, and we will release the next game changing thing while you get to watch. Sad.

      Reply

      DK

      10 years ago

      Wow Sean, as an industry guy the customer service side of TaylorMade has always exceeded my expectations. I’ve never received less than expected and frequently ended up with a result which made my member a very loyal customer. Clearly your experience is not the norm as their sales reflect a different story (you don’t see those sales numbers without satisfied customers). As far as pricing structure goes, it would seem that their model is beneficial to the consumer. You know they’ll release multiple lines most years, wait until mid-late summer and save some cash!

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      golfer4life

      10 years ago

      I’m also in the game and will say I find them to currently be one of the worse companies to deal with at this time. Not so long ago they were tops. There turn around is between 3-5 weeks at this point. Sent a driver back to them that the shaft broke. We called to ask them after 3 weeks where the club was? There answer was, they only wanted us to send the shaft and not the whole club. (even though that’s what THEY told us to do) So instead of calling us they just let the club sit there. This will be week 5 waiting. Not easy telling a customer to keep waiting. And as far as their sales reflecting the customer service? I think that may be one of the reasons for the decline in sales. You can only screw the pooch so many times before it turns around and bites your b@!!s off… haha
      I for one hope this is a step to returning to a top quality golf company…
      Cheers!

      Garry

      10 years ago

      Why are you having such a problem. I get turn around in about 1 week from order entry. I call up my inside rep. Put an order in on Monday.. Get it in store on Friday. If I want to send whatever back for repair I get a club sent to me with a return label in the box. Which also is done in less than one week. I get an RA and send it back and get credited. I find TM to b e the easiest to deal with out of all the OEM’s I deal with.

      I don’t believe one word of what you are saying about long turn around time and hard to deal with. I do over $700,000 with TM a year. Been with TM for 20 plus years. Callaway I find to be the hardest to deal with as a Dealership

      AND I know you don’t know what you are talking about in a decline in sales. TM has done over 1.5 billion in 3 quarters which is what TM did in 4 quarters the year before.. Which was more than a half billion more than the 2nd place guy at $900 million! Get your facts straight guy!

      Pim

      10 years ago

      f*ck taylormade and f*ck mygolfspy. It sucks that this site has become just another marketing channel. I haven’t found a new decent site yet so i’m out of unbiased golf information. I used to check this site every day hoping for a new article, nowadays I just check it weekly and all I find is rubbish.

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      mygolfspy

      10 years ago

      Tell me more Pim. Whats is different? WHy do you say just another marketing channel?

      We still do not accept ad dollars. We still literally have to fight these golf companies over almost every word we write. Now don’t get me wrong, I think we have evolved, just natural over time to happen. But not being unbiased, like you said. Not a chance. Just put in a call to any of these golf companies, they will tell you. They hate me, I am a thorn in their sides, they wish I wasn’t in the industry.

      Do I need to tell you guys more about what goes on behind the scenes so you understand I am still fighting this fight for you guys? Would that help? What would you add or change ? Let’s hear some constructive criticism. I’m all ears, and waiting.

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      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      You know how it is…when some people say unbiased or objective, what they really mean is I’m not interested in what’s actually going on in the industry, I just want you to shit all over the companies I don’t like…and if you’re not willing to do that, I’m going to take my ball and go home.

      drbloor

      10 years ago

      “We still do not accept ad dollars.”

      This is your mantra, and I for one believe it. But two things: the site is very, very different from the one that presented itself as the Mythbusters of the Golf Universe just a year or two ago. Some will like it more, and some–most likely, those who were attracted to the data-driven philsophy that was once king–will like it less. C’est la difference.

      Second, your mantra will only take you so far in the credibility department when you are also happy to participate in press junkets involving private jets, arm candy serving breakfast, cigars, curbside service and access to equipment/courses that very few of your readers will every get a whiff of. It creates a certain perception. Just a perception and not reality? Perhaps. But as Tony more than anyone knows, Perception is King, baby.

      mygolfspy

      10 years ago

      1. The “MythBusters” and “Data” you and others come for is still here. It is just in hibernation. But do NOT think it is gone for good. In actuality it is going to be bigger then ever very soon.

      Trust me I know this is the core of what you guys want and we are working behind the scenes to deliver just that and MUCH more. I think you will have your mind changed very soon. You have to remember we have to do a lot more with a lot less. And we are going through some growing pains right now that are being felt by a lack of that exact type of content. It WILL get resolved.

      2. The “No Ad Dollars” mantra. I could not agree more with you, regarding that only getting me so far in the perception reality of readers. I suppose after 5 years of this and 15 years total in this industry, I foolishly somewhat expect people/readers to know what I am all about. Obviously, you and many others still don’t. So, it does get a little old hearing this from readers when they have no clue what really goes on. You want a stand-up, straight shootin, honest, loyal person that will stand up for what is right? That is just how my DNA is encoded, its who I am to my core. But if you don’t believe me after all this time. Well…I’m not gonna kill myself trying to convince you.

      And with the whole “press junkets involving private jets” story. Yeah thats old too. Don’t judge me or my other writers by where we go or how we get there to tell these equipment stories for YOU. Judge us by the actual unbiased story we STILL tell after being treated to red carpet BS media service. I as the owner have never been on one of these trips and NEVER will go. My personal preference, but sometimes one of our writers needs to go. Trust me they have all been versed on the “don’t let this white glove superstar treatment go to your head and influence what you write”. It doesn’t work on us. But remember, these companies sell golf equipment and we tell golf equipment stories. Matter of fact thats about ALL we do. And you guys dictate what we cover, by polling you asking for what you want delivered. So they make it, you want it, and we tell it. Pretty simple.

      Let me pose a question, would you give up $1 Million dollars every year to do the right thing if no one cared if you did or not? If your readers still don’t believe you after giving up all the money and putting up with all the BS, corruption, blackmail, etc these golf companies try to persuade me with, would you still NOT sell out. Cause thats where I’m right now. If people like YOU still DON’T get it, why the fuck am I still fighting for YOU.

      That’s the question.

      drbloor

      10 years ago

      Just to clarify, I’m still here because I still see enough that I like to keep me coming back. I like the hard-core club reviews that still come up, don’t mind the product roll-out bits, and have a geeky fondness for pieces like the one about how leather club head covers are made. I’m not going anywhere, and I don’t presume to tell you how to run your business.

      But. It *is* a business. It entitles you to all the profits you can make therein. It doesn’t, and will never, entitle you to anything else, particularly the gratitude of your customers. That’s true of every business, obviously. In your case, my observation is that you’re trying to operate with one foot in the “Consumer Reports” domain and one foot in the “Industry insider information” vein. As your self-reported experience confirms, this sets you up to piss off people on both sides of the fence. If you can’t accept that inevitable consequence, then you probably should think about taking that million dollars on the table in another line of work.

      GarnetinOZ

      10 years ago

      Because of all the people who read your stuff, trust your reviews, and don’t hate / love the brand you are discussing today to the exclusion of a point of view that differs from their own…keep up the great work

      Greg Nay

      10 years ago

      Don’t get discouraged by a couple of douchbags that don’t have anything else to do but whine about the work that someone else is doing. Its like the guys that are whining about quality… don’t they realize that clube are not hand made. They are all cast in foundrys overseas because nobody wants to pay $1000 for a driver or $3-5k for a set of irons.
      I enjoy your website and the information you provide.

      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      drbloor – a couple quick things. Yeah…we’ve been lighter on the reviews and the labs for the last little while. For the better part of the last year, we’ve been in a fairly significant planning phase. I think we’re on the verge of being able to move forward, and when we do, you’re going to see the data-driven reviews and labs ramp up to a whole other level. We’re really excited about it.

      That said, I’ll continue to write these type of opinion articles, and other stuff from inside the industry. Quite frankly, it’s what I most enjoy.

      As for events like the TaylorMade Launch Event. Yeah…believe me I know where you’re coming from. It’s something we’ve talked about a great length internally. Every company runs them a bit differently. Yes…sometimes they’re completely over the top, but none of it is the blatant attempt at media manipulation that many seem to think it is.

      Here’s my reality. We have a resurgent Callaway, a focused Nike (effectiveness of which TBD), TaylorMade fighting to hold on to its big piece of the pie, and companies like Cobra PUMA hoping to take a slice for themselves. We’re entering a highly competitive era, and large scale media events are going to become a larger part of the battlefield. For the next little while I expect you’re going to see them happen even more often.

      At MyGolfSpy we basically have two choices:
      1. We can sit on the sidelines and claim some moral high ground, while our competitors trounce us with not only the coverage of the event itself, but all the useful information that comes out of them (more on this in bit).

      2. We can go. Cover the event (because even if not everybody is interested, the event itself is golf industry news), yes, have a little fun, and hopefully comeback with something useful for later.

      Here’s the thing most people probably don’t realize, parts of these events are extremely casual. You find yourself having unplanned conversations with people that “journalists” like me either don’t have access to, or can only get to under the strict supervision of the PR team. What you end up having are much more natural and honest conversations with people who can give you more insight into what’s really happening at these companies.

      Some of the best stories I’ve written…stories that have nothing to do with specific products or press releases, or spec sheets, have come out of those type of conversations. So yeah, I’m definitely cognizant of how it looks (and i’m not a huge fan of the well…everybody else is doing it argument either), but I’ve also learned that some of my best stories can come out of these events, and I’m not going to walk away from that just because TaylorMade wants to treat me to golf at the Wynn and/or treat me to a steak.

      mygolfspy

      10 years ago

      @DrBloor

      Going the “Consumer Reports” avenue was the preferred method. Although, not an option. I looked at and spoke with them about their structure and tried fairly hard to do the same. Unfortunately that version of a non-profit was unattainable in this industry. We also tested the waters similar to CR regarding donation drives to see if it might be feasible in golf. It was not. So that means if you have a long term vision of trying to change this industry, you have to do it for-profit. And since we do not take in where the biggest piece of revenue comes from in golf media industry we have to do more with less and fight for everything we get.

      BUT, if we are not going to take those dollars and still be looked at as being “on the take” there almost is no reason not to be “on the take”.

      RP Jacobs II

      10 years ago

      drbloor, since you’re so big on holding MGS to the “No ad dollars” mantra, why don’t ya stop back in the forum and make a donation?

      I love how you and others jump all over X, T & MGS and it’s always the ones that may or may not be “regulars,” cuz they don’t post in the forum and the only time that they show up here is to either rip MGS or rip TMaG, and today, ya getta twoffer.

      Regardless of what they take, how much they take or who they take it from, it’s a frickin business.

      X has a family to feed. T has a family to feed. They have a business to run.

      Just what’s your business plan for them to grow this site profitably with enough money to do that?

      And regarding credibility, there are enough of us here, and guys that come on every day, who can smell bullsh*t, if and when it’s spewed. Why is it the same small, insignificant number who drop in occasionally, spew their venom, then dissapear, like rats in the dark, LMAO?

      Like I said, if you believe that actions speak louder than your words, drop in the back and make a donation.

      You guys kill me, LMAO

      Fairways & Greens My Friends

      David W

      10 years ago

      RP Jacobs II, couldn’t have said it better myself!

      Pim

      10 years ago

      This article is non-news, why would you even write about this… I would suspect that you’d only write about new this unimportant if you got an incentive from taylormade. The only one benefitting from the article is Taylormade, hoping to reach avid MGS readers who spread the word about taylormade’s new found love for the better player.

      Your best article was the one about forged cavity back irons a few years back, I’d like to read more research articles like that.

      bcs

      10 years ago

      I visit this site for updates on everything having to do with golf. One significant aspect of the site is providing readers with the most up to date information about new equipment. I disagree with the whole “the only one benefitting from the article is Taylormade” because some people (like myself) could actually be looking into buying new irons and this could actually help them. So is this article filled with informative data and research? Not necessarily. But there is a difference between “marketing” and keeping readers up to date and informed.

      RP Jacobs II

      10 years ago

      BCS, well said!

      Fairways & Greens My Friend,
      Richard

      olivier

      10 years ago

      Yup … I was wondering what they were thinking with all those models … trying to figure out the difference between the TP, Tour or “Tour TP” (Tour Tour Preferred? Seriously?) was a mess.

      What if they keep that in place and just have all 4 together? SLDR Tour, SLDR TP, SLDR Tour TP, aaaaaand SLDR TOUR PREFERRED ???

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      matt cambro

      10 years ago

      interesting take, but i’d really have to doubt taylormade is going to devote TM to better players and Adams to the weekend chops. it just wouldn’t be proportional to sales or volume – better players are probably 5% of the market, maybe? i could see the reverse, maybe adams becoming the specialty brand to compete with the titleist segment

      i just can’t see taylormade changing a winning formula to the degree you’re asserting. its fun to speculate though, and i hope we see more of this kind of product release in the future. tm irons haven’t been good since the smoke MB

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      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      TaylorMade is definitely not going to abandon the middle. You’re right…that’s insane, but you will see them do a better job of differentiating, and actually targeting better players with specific products. JetSpeed, SpeedBladez, they’ll continue to make those types of products. I don’t think you’ll see any more SGI stuff, but you’ll definitely hear them talk about better players, and Tour Preferred designs.

      Basically TaylorMade will cover the low to middle handicap range. Adams will overlap in the middle, and focus on the higher hcp player. Because of the ambiguity in products like SLDR driver, TaylorMade should attract some higher HCP golfers (maintain marketshare), but won’t need to do so (cheese factor) to the exclusion of the better golfer.

      Reply

      drbloor

      10 years ago

      “Do you think something as subtle as the change from TP to Tour Preferred may actually signal a change in TaylorMade’s corporate philosophy? Do you think the Tour Preferred label will better resonate with the target audience (better golfers)?”

      I think you need a hobby.

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      drbloor

      10 years ago

      Just to add a bit of substance, no golfer I know who is good enough to play that sort of iron is going to give a rat’s ass about the badging.

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      WILSON

      10 years ago

      are you serious? in a blade, that’s all that is left. if they smack an ugly looking badge or something on that pure, beautiful blade, i’d have to smack them. Aesthetics are all that’s left in a blade. Can’t do much with the rest of it.

      Paul

      10 years ago

      There is NO doubt that when I entered the realm of purchasing TaylorMade last year, I was completely confused! Last time I bought there was only the standard or the TP. So, when I looked at getting the R1, I was thinking I was gonna get the TP. Well, just like you pointed out, there were more than just one TP!!! I was like, “What in the heck?! What is the difference between all these?!” Now, there was a few years ago a TM iron called “Tour Preferred” and it was an iron unto itself, no TP, just called Tour Preferred! Then R9, and R9 TP, the. CB/MC, etc. No doubt, all of the two-letter monikers have created confusion on top of it all as well. It will be nice to have two models and two models only in any given name again!!!

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      Marty-O

      10 years ago

      Great article, I think you hit the nail on the head. I know retail guys and staff teaching pros are rolling their eyes with every release.

      They should just create a “Driver of the month club”, take your cc information and ship out latest release on the 1st of month.

      Reply

      t ball

      10 years ago

      I agree. Been a Calloway guy for years, but 5 drivers in a year and a half is nonsense. Almost as bad with TM. BUT, the SLDR is sweet !!

      Reply

      RAT

      10 years ago

      A copy of the MP14 Mizuno with a name change.
      Why not call it the VETTE. To match the badge on the clubs.
      Nothing new ,just smoke. You are correct RON, the quality is not there. Just proves losing Mike Vrska hurts.

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      Tony Covey

      10 years ago

      Really? You’re going with the it looks like argument? It’s a blade. They all look nearly identical, a notch here, a cutaway there, but the differences are almost all in the graphics.

      As for Vrska…Great dude, very talented designer, all the respect in the world for him, but how does the departure of guy who was with Adams for basically a decade and who left Adams before TaylorMade acquired them, impact TaylorMade in the least?

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      RP Jacobs II

      10 years ago

      Not to start a brawl, though. I don’t see how you can question the quality of the iron when ya haven’t hit the club yet. And I’m by no means a TMaG groupie and have never played their irons, though my Bro, who’s a player, played the RAC blades and loved em.

      I can see if ya got the hate on for TMaG, cuz well, they’re easy to hate if you take them too seriously, though, I find it hard to believe that they would go to the trouble of, and spend the money on, a forged iron that was sh*t.

      I’m gonna hit em before I comment on the quality.

      Have a Happy & Healthy Holiday Season

      Fairways & Greens My Friend,
      Richard

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      RON

      10 years ago

      Whatever irons this company comes out with now you know the public isnt getting quality irons and thats sad because they have way too many tour guys and advertising to pay for for this company too spend money on quality made irons, so if you think these look pretty thats fine BUT DO NOT AND I REPEAT DO NOT think these new irons will be quality.

      Reply

      GolfSpy_Zinger

      10 years ago

      Why won’t they be quality?

      Reply

      Blade

      10 years ago

      The badge looks better by far regardless of what they’ve done with TP over the last several years.

      Reply

      Tom Duckworth

      10 years ago

      These are the only irons I’ve seen from TM that I would even think about trying. All of their irons from the last five years or so look like something I’d see at Wal Mart. In my mind they have a very long way to go to be a credible equipment company. I hope they don’t run Adams
      into the ground.

      Reply

      SkipThisAd

      10 years ago

      I’m glad you recognize all the cheese we’ve been getting from TM for many years now. I used to be a TM guy before on most of my club, but got tired of all “the wolf is coming the wolf is coming” bla bla bla. And you are right, they messed up throwing the ‘TP” name/logo in the trash the last few years, it’s a dome idea.
      I just got in the mail today a flyer from Golf Craplaxy, the feature TM irons are the ‘SpeedBlade”. You just told us like 2 days ago about the “Jetspeed”, most people don’t know about it, its not in store yet and now TM already have another irons the’ Tour Preferred” on this article. I cant wait until tomorrow morning to see the new ones.. ‘Tour Preferred 2 ” or in short the ” TP2 “.

      ps, gotta say, these TM irons in the picture are great looking.One more thing, the MC’ on the irons, does that means ‘MaCaroni” ?

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      flaglfr

      10 years ago

      Could mean more cheese…

      Reply

      SPY #1 Ball in Golf Reject ZINGER

      10 years ago

      I am just happy Taylor Made Golf lets me in their front door. Same can’t be said of all of the Carlsbad HQ’s…

      Reply

      Justin

      10 years ago

      It doesn’t bother me one way or the other. People, regardless of what they’re told (or by whom), will flock to their “comfort zone”. For some it’s Titleist, others it’s Hireko, still others TMaG (TP or no) and any brand inbetween. What should matter is if they’re properly fitted for whatever they choose to play and how dedicated they are to practice.

      Reply

      t ball

      10 years ago

      well said !!

      Reply

      Mark Tentinger

      10 years ago

      I don’t care what letters/words they put on those blades: those things are b-e-a-utiful.

      Reply

      R Morris

      10 years ago

      Im with Mark. And a few other guys. Those are the only thing from Taylor made I’d consider putting in my bag.

      Reply

      BigBadBJ

      10 years ago

      OH the old 6 week or every week ting Banistr, please tell me when that ever happened. Love the h8rs.

      Reply

      Banistr

      10 years ago

      Blah Blah Blah… Even the tour players are tired of Taylor Mades club launching tactics. They expect them to play the new equipment every 6 weeks when new stuff is launched, but I hear its getting OLD and fast.

      Reply

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