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OUR JOB IS YOUR GAME
No matter your discipline, having the right tools for your craft is essential; and when it comes to golf, every club in your bag must have a purpose. The irons you play will make up roughly half of the clubs in your bag – which makes it that much more important to ensure you’ve got the right ones. With the golf equipment space continually growing and changing, choosing clubs can become as difficult as trying to decide where to go to dinner with your partner.
The clubs tested, while not quite the butter-knife blades your grandfather played, maintain the workability better players demand and offer that bit of forgiveness we all need. The target handicap for this iron category ranges from scratch(or better) to the high single-digits. The designs of these irons feature more compact head profiles, small cavities, and minimal offset.
DISCLAIMER: While we all want to game the same irons as the pros, the clubs in this category aren’t for everyone. These players irons are designed for golfers who hit the center of the clubface more often than not. Miss and the punishment will be more severe than with game-improvement or super game-improvement irons.
If you’re a seasoned golfer in the market for irons in 2019 – this test is for you.
Below is a breakdown of performance grades by iron length. The percentages displayed for each iron represent the frequency at which each was among the best performing irons for each tester across the test pool. For more information about how we arrive at these results, see our How We Test page.
*Performances differences between clubs in the Players CB category are minimal compared to the other categories we’ve tested this season.
Iron Buying Considerations
Performance should be your primary concern when buying new irons, but there are some additional considerations you may want to think about before you make your purchasing decision.
You’ll likely hit iron shots on the majority of holes you play, so it’s essential to pay attention to set make-up. As with most things in the golf equipment industry, there is no universal standard for set composition. That’s not a bad thing as it allows for almost endless combinations and the ability to mix and match between models when appropriate. While all of the irons tested in our 2019 Players Test include a 4-iron, in many cases a gap wedge isn’t offered. The category is intended for better players and the feeling among many manufacturers is that better players aren’t likely to carry a set wedge. It’s also worth mentioning that not every manufacturer offers a 3-iron. In addition to being difficult for even better players to hit, the reality is that as lofts have gotten stronger, the need for a 3-iron has been diminished. As with every category, it’s important is that you make sure your iron set can fill every spot in the bag you need it to fill and that you don’t pay for additional clubs you don’t want or need.
The number of shaft options offered for irons is growing. It can be challenging to navigate the different models, weights, and flexes to find the shaft that’s right for you. The answer to the best performing shaft question stretches well beyond graphite vs. steel.
Stock shaft offerings within the Players CB category are generally heavier than in other categories. 120g to 130g is typical though some brands do skew a bit lighter. The additional weight means that stock graphite options (which tend to be significantly lighter) are also limited compared to the other categories we test.
We always recommend taking the time to go through a professional fitting, but if you don’t have the resources, ask your local golf shop if they have a Mizuno Shaft Optimizer. This advanced technology utilizes gyroscopes and strain gauges to measure things like club speed, tempo, and how much the shaft is flexing at impact. It will then recommend a list of shafts at the right flex, length, for your swing. It even makes a lie angle recommendation.
DISTANCE VS. FORGIVENESS VS. WORKABILITY
While Player’s Irons overall don’t offer the same level of forgiveness you’ll see in game improvement or super game improvement, some do offer more forgiveness than others. In a perfect world, we would get all three in one iron that everyone could play. Unfortunately, distance, forgiveness, and workability are like gauges – when you add to one, you take from another. Players irons characteristically feature smaller blade lengths and more compact head profiles. This design doesn’t generally lend itself to forgiveness; that said, the most forgiving iron will always be the one you hit closest to the sweet spot most often. Evaluate your game and decide what you need to maximize performance.
A set of irons is likely going to be the most expensive investment for your golf bag. Players irons are typically on the upper echelon of the price range, often exceeding $1000. Given the cost, it makes sense to take the time to work with a club fitting professional to determine which irons are best for your game.
PRODUCT SPOTLIGHT - SPEED FOAM FORGIVENESS
As quirky as the name sounds, there appears to be something to TaylorMade's SpeedFoam technology. Featured in both the TaylorMade P760 and P790 iron sets, the proprietary polymer filling allows for a thinner clubface, which lends itself well to more speed and increased forgiveness on off-center hits.
Scoring in the upper echelon of forgiveness, the TaylorMade P760 irons produced strong ball speed and outstanding carry consistency numbers that suggest this iron can help better players on those inevitable mis-hit golf shots. We can all use a little forgiveness.
During each test, we look for trends that provide us insight into where the market as a whole is moving, as well as what noteworthy changes manufacturers have made to improve year-over-year performance. We also solicit feedback from our testers. We want to understand what they liked, what they didn’t like, and why. We want to reemphasize that while we do collect and share noteworthy portions of this subjective feedback, it does not factor in our rankings.
Trends and Tweaks
- Inconsistent ball-strikers need not apply – Player’s Irons are those that are designed for maximum workability and control. That invariably comes at a price, and that price is forgiveness. Workability and forgiveness are like a teeter-totter; when you raise one side, the other dips. The typical Players Iron sacrifices some of the forgiveness that less skilled ball-strikers need, replacing it the workability that skilled ball strikers want.
- Most all of the irons tested in our 2019 Most Wanted Players Irons Test feature a fully forged head. The forging process itself doesn’t create an inherently less forgiving club, however, players CBs typically have a greater percentage of mass concentrated towards the center of the clubhead. While that often leads to a softer feel, it doesn’t lend itself well to significant perimeter weighting (which is part of where forgiveness comes from).
- With improvements in technology come improvements in head construction. Mizuno irons have been grain flow forged for years, which Mizuno says gives you the most responsive feel at impact. Manufacturers like PXG and TaylorMade have taken the plunge into multi-material construction, inserting polymers and proprietary materials directly behind the face of the clubs. These design implementations help engineers reduce the thickness of the face, with the goal of improving feel and ball speed consistency across the face without sacrificing too much in the way of soft feel.
Bucking the Loft-Jacking Trend?
Every year, golf companies promise more yards, and sometimes they deliver. But at what cost? One of the easiest (and frequently employed) methods to increase distance is to decrease loft; essentially turning yesterday's 6-iron into today's 7-iron. While we all understand that accuracy and consistency are the most essential elements of competent iron play, almost inexplicably, distance is still what moves the needle in the iron category.
Players irons typically buck the trend. While it's perhaps not entirely accurate to say manufacturers use traditional lofts, irons within the category are among the weakest lofted (relative to the number stamped on the sole) on the market. While distance is always important to some degree, golfers of elite skill benefit from higher spinning shots that offer the stopping power necessary to attack pins on the small shelves. That being said, consistency always matter. You won't likely hit players irons as far as a game-improvement iron; but if you have the skill to flight your irons to whatever degree the shot calls for, the category is likely right for you.
Notes from the Testing Pool
The following section details subjective feedback from our pool of 20 testers. While it is meant to highlight some of the feedback obtained during the test, it’s important to note that none of it is directly related to the actual performance of the club, and as such, does not factor in the overall rankings.
- The Srixon Z785 was the highest-rated club in all three subjective categories; looks, feel, and alignment. Faster swinging and lower handicap golfers in the test group cited this iron’s players preferred compact profile and thin top line.
- Among the top-rated irons for feel in this year’s Players CB test were the Mizuno JPX 919 Tour; and a surprising newcomer, the Sub70 639 CB. The 919s feature a 1025E Grain Flow Forged HD carbon steel head and a CNC milled face to offer the feel you’d expect from a Mizuno iron. The Sub70 639 CB is a direct-to-consumer iron that provides excellent feel in a traditional Player’s CB head shape at an extremely reasonable price.
- While the Most Wanted Players Irons Test was comprised mostly of lower handicap, high swing speed players – the lower handicapped golfers with handicaps on the upper echelon of our limit favored irons like the Callaway X-Forged and Cobra KING Forged CB which they felt helped launch the ball a bit higher.
- We also received unanimously positive feedback on how well the Titleist AP2 paired with the Dynamic Gold AMT Red shaft (high launch), most notably in the long irons. For those with lower launch angles, we saw a noticeable difference in trajectory when utilizing the full AMT shaft line to optimize launch windows.
PRODUCT SPOTLIGHT - CALLAWAY APEX PRO
Among the top-rated irons in this year's test, the Callaway Apex Pro irons produced considerable distance in the mid and long irons, and paired it with exceptional consistency in the short irons. One of the longest irons in our test, the Callaway Apex Pro irons are inspired by a tour driven design that features a straighter leading edge, thinner top-line and smooth hosel transition.
If you're looking for a little extra distance in a player's irons profile, make sure to keep the Callaway Apex Pro in your consideration set during your next fitting.
2019 Most Wanted Players Irons Data
To filter and compare by club, use the drop-down list and checkboxes to select only the irons you wish to compare.
EXPERT TIP - MORE THAN SHAFT FLEX
If you purchase irons through a retail shop or online, chances are you'll run into the part where you select the shaft When you go through a proper fitting - you'll be fitted for one. Regardless of your method of purchase, it's important to understand that there's more that goes into a shaft than flex.
No two swings are alike - and your shaft choice should ultimately be based on how hard you swing, your transition speed, and how you deliver the club into the ball. Keeping it simple, steel shafts are designed with different step patterns (the notches you see on the shaft) and thicknesses to help golfers of all swing types hit solid, straight shots.
A proper fitting with a professional will help determine the right shaft for your swing.
How We Test
Our Mission is to help you find the best players irons for your game.
We are 100% independent and unbiased, and we always put the #ConsumerFirst.
About Our Testers
Our pool of testers consists of 20 golfers with handicaps ranging from plus to the high single digits. As a group, they span a broad range of swing characteristics (head speed, attack angle, etc.).
Over the course of several sessions, each golfer is required to hit 10-12 "good" shots with each club. Club order is randomized on a per tester basis.
Limiting Variables and Gathering Data Reliably
To minimize variables, all testers hit Bridgestone B330 RX Golf balls.
Both club and head data are captured using Foresight GCQuad launch monitors.
Crunching the Numbers
Before determining our rankings, we identify and remove outliers using a proprietary detection methodology.
To arrive at our final results, we calculate the averages of key metrics (ball speed, distance, dispersion, etc.), while also considering the standard deviation and the statistical reliability of those values.
For more detailed information on our test process, visit our How We Test Page.
2019 Most Wanted Players Irons Specs
|Club||PW Loft||PW Length||7 Iron Loft||7 Iron Length||5 Iron Loft||5 Iron Length|
|Callaway Apex Pro|
|Callaway X Forged|
|Cobra KING Forged CB|
|Exotics CBX Forged|
|Mizuno JPX 919 Tour|
|New Level 623-M|
|New Level 902 Forged|
|PXG 0311T GEN 2|
|Sub70 639 CB|
|Wilson FG Tour V6|
* denotes measured value vs. manufacturer’s stated spec.
BUYING NEW IRONS
Q: How often should I buy new irons?
A: While on rare occasions there are quantifiable year-over-year breakthroughs, typically it takes 3-5 years for manufacturers to make any significant performance gains. With the USGA further tightening restrictions on manufacturers, it’s possible, even likely, that it will take longer still moving forward. Our recommendation is to buy new irons only when they appreciably outperform what is already in your bag. Of course, if you want new irons because you want new irons, that’s fine too.
Q: How do I determine the right category of irons for me?
A: The four categories of irons we test are: players (cavitybacks), players distance, game improvement, and super game improvement. While there is some overlap between categories, your search should begin with an honest assessment of your skill level (handicap), as well as what you need in your game. If your handicap is above 10 and ball-striking is not a legitimate strength, consider game improvement or super game improvement. For more skilled players who hit the ball more consistently, a set of players irons or players distance irons may benefit your game the most. For those on the bubble, especially for those seeking a few more yards, the Players Distance category could be ideal.
Q: Does the shaft matter?
A: Absolutely. While changes to spin and launch differences are rarely massive, shaft changes frequently lead to improved accuracy, tighter dispersion, and greater overall consistency.
Q: What should I look for when testing irons?
A: While golfers have been conditioned to consider distance to the exclusion of nearly everything else, even within the Player’s Irons category, we recommended looking at the little numbers and looking for small circles. When comparing metrics like distance and ball speed, be sure to look at your standard deviations (the small numbers usually found under the big ones on the data screen). Smaller numbers mean better consistency, which will usually mean more than an extra yard or two on the golf course. Similarly, look for tighter dispersion ellipses (small circles). We can’t overstate the importance of consistency with irons.
Forged vs. Cast Irons
A common misconception is that forged irons are for better players. In reality, forgiveness is a function of geometry, not the manufacturing process. There are several forgiving forged irons on the market, i.e. Mizuno MP20 MMC, just as there are many cast irons - like the PING i210 - that are designed for lower handicap golfers.
Q: How are the irons in the test fit to each golfer?
A: We use a fitting process that we call fit from stock. Irons are fitted to each tester using the stock, no up-charge options from each manufacturer. We test one short iron, one mid-iron, and one long iron from each set. While there are no irons in our testing that feature adjustability, we fit to flex for each tester in the pool. Occasionally manufacturers will send multiple sets with different stock shafts that we can utilize to improve launch conditions.
Q: How do you determine in which category to test a given set of irons?
A: To ensure that we’re testing irons as alike as designers allow for, in addition to the design of the head itself (profile, sole width, etc.), we sort by length and loft. Our goal is to keep differences as minimal as possible within any test cohort. When an iron reasonably fits in more than one category, we defer to the manufacturer’s category choice.
Q: How is the Most Wanted Players Iron Determined
A: To determine our rankings, we collect key performance metrics with Foresight GCQuad Launch Monitors. After eliminating outliers, we use a utilize a proprietary methodology to calculate Strokes Gained values for each combination of tester and golf club. Next, we calculate confidence intervals and determine the statistical reliability of our Strokes Gained values. The iron that is reliably better for the highest percentage of testers is the Most Wanted. For more detailed information on our test process, visit our How We Test Page.
Q: How is the “Most Forgiving” Iron determined?
A: To determine the Most Forgiving Players Iron, we focus on a narrower set of metrics that includes: Shot Area (dispersion, measured in yards2), and the standard deviations of several key parameters: ball speed, carry yards, pin proximity, and strokes gained.
Q: You discuss subjective feedback for things like looks, sound, and feel. How much do those ratings factor into your rankings?
A: ZERO. Our rankings are based purely on launch monitor data and quantifiable performance metrics.
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rlyman4113 years ago
Play players distance irons but at traditionalish lofts. Pw 46 with 4 degree gapping through the set. Still gained a full club in distance from my old players irons. Big fan of my cobra forged tec black.
Steve4 years ago
I compared your data (ball speed, carry and total distance) from the 919 Tour to the 919 Forged and HMP from your players’ distance iron testing. The 919 Tour was faster and longer than the other 2 in all (long, medium and short) irons. How is that possible given the fact that the Tour is designed and marketed to do the opposite? Maybe it’s not possible to compare numbers from 2 different test groups. What gives??
Jimmy4 years ago
It would be great if you put the degree of loft next to the name of the club in the table. While the data “is what it is” 1 degree of lift either way can add 3 – 10 yards depending on swing speed. So the total carry and distance needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
Bob Pegram4 years ago
Too bad you didn’t have the new Wilson blades that were used by Gary Woodland to win the U.S. Open. They look very similar to the Mizuno JPX 919 Tours which won your test. My guess is they would have had very similar results. Both are beautiful irons as well as way more forgiving than most blades from 30 or 40 years ago. Even blades have lower centers of gravity now which makes them way easier to hit.
C;ay2 years ago
Have you compared the jpx919 tour to the wilson pro staff blades you’re referring too? holy crap the 919’s look like ping G’s next to those= those wilsons are one of the sexiest irons made today and one of the only true blades- only the titleist mb and cobra mb can compete for short blade thin top line minimal offset. but the wilsons still win. the 919 tours are super long blade length which I find extremely off putting because that means much harder to shape to your unnatural shape. the ap2’s have shorter blade length than the 919’s
Jeff4 years ago
Only one statistic matters. Shot area. That’s it. Spin is a distant but still relevant second place.
The winner? Wilson. Second in spin? Wilson.
These testers and the methodology is garbage.
TheBrad4 years ago
I take it you play Wilsons and got your feelings hurt. Please feel free to not visit the site anymore. Go start your own site dedicated to Wilson irons.
Don’t let the door hit you…
Jeff4 years ago
I play Titleist…but feel free to grow up enough to deal with simple facts.
A Dub4 years ago
Thanks for the good work guys, based on stats for short/medium/long irons wouldn’t it make sense to see which Brand could offer the best performing combo set? Making it different combo sets depending on levels or depending on what players are going for like speed, consistency, playability? Maybe a Players/Distance Players/Game improvement combo for example.
Dave S4 years ago
Love MGS testing, and firmly believe that what you’re saying about which clubs are the best, is as correct as a sample test can be, but man if I can never tell which club is the best simply by looking at the data-points provided. I’m sure there’s a secret sauce you use to rank them, but the ball flight data is never (rarely) telling.
jerry4 years ago
MP18 SC & MMC weren’t tested? They are still current models, I know they’re going to be replaced soon, but they were last years winners and a lot of people would like to know how they stack up.
Adam Miller4 years ago
How come the Miura MC-501 was not included in the test?
Jim4 years ago
Just curious why I’m not see the MP-18 SC here or the MP-18 MMC in Players Distance? Maybe I missed them, but I didn’t see them listed in the clubs tested.
Tony Covey4 years ago
Mizuno elected to only send JPX this year.
Jim4 years ago
Got it thanks!
jerry4 years ago
well that is a bummer, i guess because they have new irons coming soon. Either way it would have been really nice to see last years winners compared to this years.
Johnny Penso4 years ago
The spin numbers look awfully low. Pitching wedges <7000 rpm? Is this a function of hitting off mats?
Franz4 years ago
That’s more a function of having amateurs hitting the ball, most of them with lower swing speeds and not enough spin loft.
To get a 7 iron spinning at 7000 rpm you need: a 34 or 35° loft, an solid descending angle of attack and 85 to 95 mph club head speed…
Franz4 years ago
I was forgetting a decently well centred strike, as well. If you hit it from the toe, the heel or too high on the face, the spin will drop.
Johnny Penso4 years ago
They’re hitting 32 and 33 degree 7 irons 170-180 yards. That’s a better than average amateur swing speed. I couldn’t hit one of these clubs more than 150-155 and I get a lot more spin than 4000 on my ball. The numbers don’t make a lot of sense to me.
Nick4 years ago
This was the first thing that struck me when looking at the data. 7i spin figures in the 4000s. Tony Covey, why such low spin in the results?
Clay2 years ago
right? especially with a cobra forged cb- that’s not an easy club to hit- i can’t believe that was a higher launching club.
how is 4500 the average spin rate for players cbs? these look like game improvement numbers- a 7 iron spins 4300 but carries 175- that’s not a low handicap swing at all- not even close.
probably using trackman indoors or some bullshit
Stump4 years ago
When you list the specs for these, it would be nice if you could list whether they are offered in left handed or not.Too many times, I’ve gotten excited about a new club only to find out they don’t make a LH version.
Johnny Cowboy4 years ago
Stop playing wrong handed then
TR1PTIK4 years ago
Curious about the loft on the Sub 70 639 CB. Stated loft on their site for PW is 44, but you guys measured it at 45.75? Was it actually off that much or do they have an error on their site. Personally, 46~ is about as strong as I want in a PW. Being a forged iron it certainly could be bent +/- 2-degrees with little trouble, but just curious about the accuracy of what’s on their site. I also noticed that there’s only a 2-degree gap between the 3 & 4 irons (20 & 22). What are your thoughts about that kind of gapping? Seems small, but considering my current set starts out at 3-degree gaps, it isn’t huge.
One Day At A Time4 years ago
I just want to add my $0.02
Mp18 mmc Flihi 2-4-5, mp18mmc 6-7-8, mp18 9, Pw
Never thought I would find the set that I loved.
I love my irons.
I fit myself, which is agonizing when you have a Mizuno fitting cart at your convenience for three years, because you get paralysis via analysis.
Blended just makes sense for a lot of us that are slow to admit we aren’t the ball strikers we thought we once were ?
HOROHERO4 years ago
Would love to see how the JPX 919 Tours stack up to the MP18 or MP SC 18s. Realize it isn’t practical for you guys to test multiple models per brand with these tests but maybe a separate feature?
Jon4 years ago
Crazy to think the Wilson V6 was the winner in 2017… seems like they have stood still in this category compared to everyone else….
Jeff4 years ago
….except that their stats are still the best…..
Kyle4 years ago
Outstanding read. Interesting how Titleist never comes out on top. Ever. New line coming soon so we’ll see but then again…so is Mizuno. Great job here
Jerry4 years ago
I got fitted a few months ago and have the 919 Tours at 7-8-9-PW in my blended Zuno set. They replaced my MP30-32’s. I hit them longer and accurately but must say I have mid flex KBS shafts in place of Rifle 6.0’s that just got too hard to hit at my age. I love my new Mizuno’s but they play differently than my old blades. Still getting used to them and liking how they play.
Jon4 years ago
Kind of laughable, pro superior ball speed, con ball speed…..
Franz4 years ago
If only you read till the end of the short sentence.
Pro: ball speed CONSISTENCY
Con: mediocre ball speed.
Kind of laughable, ideed.
Dean4 years ago
You are missing some important details. Pro was ball speed consistency, but the con was that is was not a high ball speed. Those are not contradictory.
Max4 years ago
Perfect timing! After a session with the Mizuno Optimzer, I am about to pull the trigger on a JPX 919 combo set (…IF the new MP line being announced next week is not for me). HMP 4 iron, 5 + 6 in the Forged and 7-PW in the Tours. My only hangup is on the 6 iron: Forged or Tour. Leaning toward more forgiveness.
Bill4 years ago
Hi Max….I am currently playing 919 Tour 5-PW. I love the longer irons in this set and will probably add the 4 iron. I’m a 7 handicap. My 919 Tours are replacing 900 Forged.
Colin4 years ago
Strongly recommend Mizuno! Lost my way for 3 years with a set of Callaway CF16’s and handicap shot up to 7 but bought a combo set of 919’s and straight back down to 4 within 6 months. I’m 47 and decided I needed a little help with the long irons so chose the 4&5 in the HMP, the 7&8 in the forged and the 8toPW in the tour – i love them all and wouldn’t change the set up even now.
TheBrad4 years ago
Hmm. Different strokes for different folks I suppose. I love Mizuno irons but I’m awfully fond of my CF16s.
TheBrad4 years ago
I’ll go ahead and get things kicked off here…
“I’m a +2 hcp and I completely disagree with you methodology…Did I mention I’m a +2 hcp?”
“WHERE’S _______IRON?!?!?! FLAWED TEST!!!”
“You guys are pompous”
“Did you guys use mats? As a +2 hcp I’m way too good to hit off mats”
Rob4 years ago
LOL!! Well done! I think you about covered them all….except for maybe.
So…you’re site is sponsored by Mizuno obviously since they win everything….;)
Keenford4 years ago
Who is being pompous here!? You’re too good for mats?
Rob4 years ago
LOL!! He was being sarcastic, listing all the things naysayers usually say about MGS testing.
BD4 years ago
Luke4 years ago
How is ball speed both a pro and con of the 919 tours?
John4 years ago
Where are the Hogans?
Emery4 years ago
Wouldn’t trade in my FtWorth 15’s for any of the current lot…..except for mor FW15’s!
Puttingmatt4 years ago
I was surprised to see the X Forged in this test, but certainly agree with the results. I have had these irons
in play for over a year, great clubs, easy to score with.
Also , thought the mizuno and cobra were great choices.
The players category have a very close and competitive market, all the OEM irons in this category are truly fine equipment.
Scott4 years ago
Also wondering about this. Were they contacted? Can’t imagine they wouldn’t send a set and a chance for some positive advertising. Disappointed if they chose not to participate….
Ray4 years ago
You’re note about the AMT Red shaft working with 718 AP2s, would that potentially be applicable for any of the heads, or is it specific to the AP2s?
Jon4 years ago
I find this test kind of funny…. Mizuno, pro- superior balls speed, con- ball speed
Callaway – outstanding ball speed, con- ball speed…
WTF? Come on, I understand comparing with the other models but ball speed should not be both a pro and con….. if it is not testing high among the other clubs in the test then it should not be a pro
Tony Covey4 years ago
Jon – read harder and more importantly, have the integrity to quote the text accurately. In your mini-rant, you left out an important word.
I’ll concede this one is difficult one to navigate, especially if you don’t read closely.
There is a critical difference between, for example, between ball speed and CONSISTENCY of ball speed.
Ball speed can be SLOW but consistent (lower than average with narrow standard deviations).
Ball speed can be FAST but inconsistent (higher than average with wider standard deviations).
Ball speed can also be slow and inconsistent or it can be fast and consistent.
Consistency is a pro.
Being a little slower on average is a con.
Incidentally, this type of relationship works with nearly any metric.
Jesus man…make an effort.
KC4 years ago
No offense, I love what MGS does, but yeah your Pros and Cons just don’t read how they should. Maybe make more of an effort with your writing and editing? Or else just give us the data and leave out the Pros and Cons?
don4 years ago
Is it not exactly what your job is, to make guys like Jon understand? Shocked myself by taking Jon’s side here.
Jon4 years ago
“Jesus make an effort”? Wow, how about we discuss centerdness of contact vs Consistent ball speed…. I was merely pointing out my opinion on how it reads but it appears I hurt the little snowflake’s feelings… I do appreciate what you guys do but just pointing out how it seems to read
JasonA4 years ago
@Jon, you may have misinterpreted, for both clubs what is being communicated is:
Pro: Higher ranked for CONSISTENCY of ball speed & distance (think of it as distance dispersion)
Con: Lower ranked AVERAGE ball speeds and distance
Jon4 years ago
No I did not misread and I understand what they were doing BUT it is bizarre how it was done
Tony Covey4 years ago
That’s certainly fair. Grammatically correct, but easy to miss or misunderstand. We’re working to update with some exceedingly clear language.
Jake Claro4 years ago
Tony, I think in clearly making the distinction you’re making, what would’ve helped is rather than “Outstanding ball speed and carry consistency across all three distances tested” would be to state it as “Outstanding consistency in ball speed and carry across all three distances tested”. It’s reasonable that someone would read “consistency” in the former instance as only modifying “carry” and not both “ball speed” and “carry” whereas the latter example clearly applies it to both.
One other suggestion I have after reading all of the iterations of most wanteds over the years, is I think it would be helpful to list top 3 overall, and then have a superlatives section (keep it to 3; longest, most forgiving, most accurate etc. depending on the club type). The reason I say this is because I’ve come to think that there are some really good 2nd or 3rd place overall clubs that get short changed a bit and less attention than they deserve when they don’t get the same spotlight as a club that is being featured on a superlative/specific attribute/category win.
That aside love what you all do!
JCS4 years ago
Mizuno with the SWEEP! [sort of (no iron represented in the SGI)]… Game Improvement, Players Distance and now the Players Iron . Absolutely no surprise here.
I know the majority of consumers in the golf industry are more akin to purchasing off the rack (I know I was), but do yourself a favor and go get fit for these NOW. No upcharges on shafts/grips with Mizuno, and chances are the fitting fee will be comp’d if you decide to pull the trigger and make the purchase. STRONGLY RECOMMEND.
Jason andherson4 years ago
Pay for fitting and buy tax free from Manhattan golf.
Ben Ross4 years ago
If you meant Golf Manhattan, yes. They’re excellent. Trackman and a full Mizuno fitting cart.
James4 years ago
How come you dont show the strokes gained metric on the chart any longer? I thought that was always a good comparison between individual irons tested. Thanks!
Andrew4 years ago
I agree on leaving in the strokes gained number, even if it doesn’t affect your ultimate conclusions.
McaseyM4 years ago
Congrats again to Mizuno!! domination by the 919 line. Great showing for Tour Edge and New Level.