Arccos Continues Reign as Heavyweight Champ of Big Data
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Arccos Continues Reign as Heavyweight Champ of Big Data

Arccos Continues Reign as Heavyweight Champ of Big Data

We’ll defer to World Wrestling Entertainment’s Paul Heyman for a proper Arccos introduction here.

Why Heyman Hustle? On golf’s consumer-facing side of big data and Artificial Intelligence (A.I.) there is only one “reigning, defending, undisputed heavyweight champion!”

 That’s Arccos. And it’s no contest.

Lot of truisms inside the squared circle: To be a fighting champion, you take on all comers. It’s part of the code. Only one problem: There have been more pretenders than contenders that have tried to challenge Arccos.

Not exactly a fair fight.

The Trophy Case

Bill Goldberg once had a memorable streak of 173 straight wins in World Championship Wrestling. That pales in comparison to what Arccos has managed in the golf industry’s won-lost column.

The Stamford, Conn., company remains undefeated. It even boasts a bunch of awards to go with its title belt.

Fast Company has listed Arccos third on its list of the World’s Most Innovative Companies in the sports category. MyGolfSpy honored the company with an Editors’ Choice award for its Arccos Driver product. There’s a laundry list of kudos too lengthy to mention.

Then there’s “the face that runs the place.” (Thanks, A.J. Styles.)

Sixteen-time world heavyweight champion Nature Boy Ric Flair always said, “to be the man, you gotta beat the man.” If you want to main-event in golf’s on-course data space, you’ll be climbing into the ring versus Sal Syed.

Challengers might want to consider a handicap match.

“The culture of our company is to listen,” says Syed, Arccos co-founder and chief executive. “Whether it’s customers, our partners, MyGolfSpy readers, influencers, whoever, it doesn’t matter. We listen to their feedback. We want to know what we can do better. Our job is to act on that feedback and deliver.”

Since Syed and fellow co-founders Clinton Grusd and Ammad Faisal revolutionized the game 10 years ago with a tool and a platform that combined shot-tracking with A.I., the company has acted on feedback and delivered pretty well.

Arccos’s most recent Tale of the Tape through Dec. 31, 2020:

  • Three million clubs paired in the Arccos app
  • Six million rounds played by users
  • 400 million shots hit by users
  • 31 billion on-course data points (yes, that’s 31 billion)
  • 194 countries where an Arccos round has been played

Emphasizing its dominance further were the company’s results last year. It was a record-breaking 2020 for their connected golf products.

Users of Arccos technology amassed:

  • Three billion yards in distance (yes, billion, again)
  • 1.87 million rounds played
  • 113 million shots hit on course

The Arccos team is justifiably proud of first-time engagement. New users saw an average handicap decrease last season of 5.02 strokes.

“Our business this past year essentially doubled,” says Syed. “I can’t attribute it all to the pandemic but there definitely was a certain percentage. There were a lot of challenges in 2020 but a lot of golf was played.”

Widening the Grand Canyon-like gap in the heavyweight division of data and analytics even more last season was a trio of Arccos’ technology platforms:

*A.I. Rangefinder (non-USGA conforming)

World’s first A.I powered GPS rangefinder that adjusts yardages in real-time for slope, wind speed/direction, temperature, humidity and altitude.

Arccos Caddie Link

A small, extremely lightweight wearable that automatically captures shot data, allowing Arccos members to un-tether from a smartphone in their pocket while they played.

Strokes Gained Analytics

Harnessing an A.I. Neural Net provides players with the most advanced personalized insights in the game. The first platform of its kind, Strokes Gained Analytics allows a player to select almost any target handicap—from Tour player to 20—and measure their performance versus that goal across every game facet.

“There is this realization in a lot of consumers’ minds now that data can really them,” said Syed, who conceived Arccos with Grusd and Faisal while attending business school at Yale University. “Sure, you’re going to have those golfers out there who say, ‘I know what my weaknesses are. I don’t need a system to tell me.’ But most golfers don’t honestly have a benchmark. They don’t really know where they should be in a certain aspect of how they play. There’s a comprehensive system tracking a universe of golfers to help them make smarter decisions and improve their performance.”

Tag Team Success

Five years ago, Arccos forged a unique partnership with COBRA Golf. It was kind of a WWE version of The Rock and Mick Foley … with similar success.

Despite their vastly different cultures, the two brands formed a cohesive relationship. It took time but, through applied synergies, the COBRA-Arccos tag team ushered in another revolution in the equipment space.

A first generation of “smart” club technology put an entire industry on notice.

“Whether it was going to take two years, eight years or 10 years, we didn’t know,” recalls Dan Ladd, COBRA PUMA Golf’s Executive Vice-President and General Manager. “What we believed was it was going to be the future. We knew it wasn’t going to be easy, we knew there would be naysayers but we were the ones willing to look ahead and take on some risk. It’s rounded the corner. More people are getting into it and seeing what it can do and how cool it can be. Most importantly, how it can help you improve and have a little more fun? That’s good for the game.”

How well did COBRA fare with its “COBRA Connect Powered by Arccos” activations in 2020?

“We were up between 150 and 200 percent which was really exciting,” Ladd says.

Since partnering with COBRA in April 2016, two more OEM heavyweights—PING and TaylorMade—have aligned with Arccos.

Announcing a deal last October, TaylorMade immediately launched a U.S.-only promotional campaign giving its new relationship a push. Stay tuned. There will be more to come on that front.

Much further along in the tag-team division with Arccos is PING.

John K. Solheim became a believer through trial and error.

During a personal test of Arccos, PING’s forward-thinking president noted an odd trend of medium and short irons missing the green left.

He wondered: Is this a swing issue or is there something else going on?

“Arccos’s screen shows your irons statistics,” says Solheim. “It said I was missing the green left 18 percent of the time and right two percent of the time. That was weird but the data was right in front of me. I sent a note to Erik (Henrikson, PING’s director of innovation and testing) and told him I didn’t think the lie angle on my irons was wrong but maybe a slightly stiffer shaft would help. I had that done and the lefts immediately went away. I saw instant benefit.”

Solheim’s belief in Arccos has trickled down through his company. All of PING’s clubs are available with Arccos’s Smart Grip and Smart Sensor technology through custom upgrade.

G710 iron sets all came standard with Arccos smart sensors.

Particularly influenced by the data and A.I insights has been Marty Jertson, PING’s Vice-President of Fitting and Performance.

He’s taken advantage of the information and has utilized it in a number of ways including a complete makeover of how PING executes wedge fittings.

“Based on the Arccos data, amateur golfers tend to use their wedges about 60 percent of the time from the rough,” he said. “Since that’s where golfers use their wedges a majority of the time, that’s where we start our wedge fittings now.”

Syed refers to it as another case study for how data can be such an influencer on the industry.

“Our mission, along with our OEM partners, is a combined effort to help golfers improve. That leads to ideas, product creation and applied synergies. Everyone wins.”

Jertson sees a much bigger picture for Arccos and PING going forward

“Tour pros have access to an entire ecosystem of coaches, on-course stats and access to technology,” he said. “They look at their numbers and make adjustments. That same full picture they have is the future for amateur players.”

Fitting and Grip Alliances

A new era of Smart Fitting has emerged from the revolutionary process of Smart Clubs.

Re-imagining tag-team aspirations in another specialized industry space, Arccos has leveraged key partnerships with a trio of North America’s highest-profile club-fitting brands: TXG (Tour Experience Golf), Club Champion and Cool Clubs.

For the moment, the ramp-up of Smart Fitting is in its infancy.

But Syed is all in. He is optimistic for its build-out utilizing Arccos as a key piece of a complex puzzle.

“All of these top fitting brands we’ve partnered with realize fitting, at its best, is a relationship. They’re smart people,” he said, veering off topic for a moment to mention the partnerships his company has formed the past 18 to 24 months with grip manufacturers Golf Pride, SuperStroke and Lamkin (for Arccos sensors) before jumping back on point.

“What they want is a repeat customer. How they achieve that is through accountability and by having data to help figure out why something might be off in someone’s driver after a fitting or because of a swing change.”

Ian Fraser, TXG’s founder and CEO, agrees.

Integral enough is Arccos technology at the Toronto, Ont., facility that he plans to build the price of the sensors and subscription into all of his company’s fittings this year.

“Arccos is fast becoming an important part of our business. It helps us quantify fitting results with our customers and be pre-emptive to their needs once they get some rounds under their belt. I’ve always believed in club fitting but I’m more excited than ever to have data-driven feedback to ensure our customers get full value from the TXG experience.”

Where Arccos is becoming particularly helpful for TXG is the value proposition before a fitting.

“Performance-tracking benefits afterwards are awesome but this also allows our fitters to notice a player’s performance trends prior to a session with them,” Fraser added.

Defending the Title in 2021

With Microsoft leading its A.I. expansion, Arccos has continued to seek innovative ways to harness on-course data through A.I.-generated insights. The goal is the same: To help golfers improve performance with smarter decision-making on the golf course.

This month the company will begin to roll out five new initiatives:

Player Dashboard – Fully incorporates Arccos’s Strokes Gained Analytics into the dashboard to help players, coaches and fitters more easily identify and understand strengths and weaknesses across all game facets.

Arccos Caddie for Apple Watch – Moving from beta to a full-featured offering with new additions to the experience, it allows players to seamlessly record their on-course shot data without carrying a smartphone.

Smart Distance Club Averages – Leveraging new algorithms takes Arccos’s club averages to another level by accounting for recovery shots and terrain while also supporting “what if” views of weather and elevation impacts across individual clubs.

Arccos Caddie Team Program – Special package combines Arccos’s award-winning platform with customized training to suit the needs of high school, university, college and national teams while providing coaches with the ability to access and analyze their players’ on-course data.

Enhanced Putting Data – Ability to mark second- and third-putt locations to deliver even better insights for short-game performance.

“We already have USC (University of Southern California, (University of) Oklahoma and other NCAA programs using the Caddie Team program,” says Syed. “I envision this helping coaches in the future to set line-ups based on weather conditions and course specifics.”

The Arccos CEO is also intrigued by the putting data.

“I think putting is where a lot of consumer misconceptions lie. On television, we see all these putts made on Tour. The bigger sample size of an entire field at a PGA TOUR event is the pros don’t make everything. From seven feet, their rate is only about 50 percent. My belief is there are a lot of golfers out there who aren’t as bad at putting as they think.”

A Tease for MyGolfSpy Readers

Sometimes the right question leads to a surprising answer. You just have to ask.

Although Syed was not able to offer specifics, he teased another Arccos main event coming this summer.

“This is what I’m really excited about. What we haven’t shared much up to now is what Arccos can do for your equipment. We’re going to be dissecting it in ways you never imagined.”

At its core is a ground-breaking shift in how consumers think about what’s in their bag, what a player’s weak or problem clubs are and why. Even the types of clubs and golf ball they should play will be considered.

“Today, those are not data-driven decisions. Those are the things that are going to change. You’ll be able to compare clubs, all kinds of things. One thing I can tell you: I believe it’s going to be an important moment in the history of golf.”

The New Day

At 31 billion data points (and counting) and a bank of up to 400 million shots hit by users, Arccos has no end of possibilities. Supported by a surge in new members and users in 2020, the company further demonstrated its on-course data set as a valuable tool for players, coaches, fitters and OEMs.

“We know the upcoming releases for the first half of 2021 will continue to accelerate our business,” Syed said, “especially as we strive to realize the vision of connecting every golf club.”

You know that heavyweight championship belt strapped around Syed’s waist? Expect it to remain there for a very long time.

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      Erin

      3 years ago

      The only thing this technology really needs IMO” is to be able to look at distances anywhere on a hole rather than just to the pin. Without this it is only ok. I don’t want to have to have a range finding device as well as this.

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      Ingram

      3 years ago

      I’ve used Arccos for 4 years now. and have enjoyed it. I agree they have listened to their customers and made some improvements.

      I still have the big long-standing complaint- the need to keep the phone in my front pocket. I confess sometimes I put my massive phone in my back pocket without even realizing, which results in missed shots. Later when I pick up my phone the app thinks I’m hitting my 12th shot when I’m really two holes down the road. It’s a mess and I would need to take 10 minutes to get the situation resolved. I don’t want to do that when I’m golfing. So lately I have just abandoned the app.

      This gets back to the LINK. It seems like a great solution that resolves the biggest problem with Arccos. I could get my phone out of my pocket and onto my push cart and use the phone solely with the Arccos Caddie/GPS app. Yet they charge $125 for the LINK. Haven’t I paid them enough for the sensors and the replacement sensors? Isn’t the LINK something they should be selling at near cost?

      The biggest money earner for Arccos is to collect data on who I am, where I am, what clubs I play, where I play, when I play, what I shoot, etc. Arccos can then sell this to other businesses who can then target market to me. This is more valuable than anything for Arccos.. I get that. But given this reality, the pricing structure (cost of sensors, cost of replacement sensors, cost of LINK, cost of subscription) should be cheaper.

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      Mike

      3 years ago

      Great, you have 5 million statistics. Now how do you actually improve your game? Someone said that arcos told them they missed 70% of their shots short of the green. Yep, you and 95% of all other golfers, shouldn’t need arcos to tell you that. About 15 years ago I tracked a ton of my approach shots & found that I missed about 75% in the 4:00 to 8:00 space in front of the green. Best solution was “use 1 more club”! many people can tell you how far they hit the ball, few can tell you how far they consistently “carry” the ball. Maybe Arcos can help with that But I still don’t understand how that works, especially when there are so many other factors at play. Winds at my course can change 3 or 4 times during a round, do I have to reset things every hour? I think it’s cool if you want to and know how to use it, but don’t hold me up for one minute playing with your damn phone during a round.

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      James

      3 years ago

      Is this a paid advertisement?

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      scott

      3 years ago

      Arccos is just for tech junkies.. It will not help with your back swing, grip , stance or any part of hitting a golf ball. Just a Do Dad for the high tech player. and that’s okay, if you like numbers.. A large bucket of balls at the range will help you more. ..I will give you free hints always go up one club . extra bonus: if you have a 180 carry over water don’t tried to hit it over in one shot. unless you can hit a drive over 240 yards ( carry yards ). . AND take the 60* lob wedge out of your bag….These will lower your score by more then 4

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      Wes

      3 years ago

      This entire website is dedicated to the use of data to make better decisions, where do you think you are, sir? lolz

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      Dan

      3 years ago

      I’ve found the data extremely helpful, and I’m not a tech-y guy. And my hcp has come down.

      I do agree with you about the 60º wedge, though.

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      Richard Amberg

      3 years ago

      Truthfully, this would be the very last golf aid I plan on buying ever. In fact. I know I will never buy it. What a pain in the neck to be constantly looking at my cell phone in the bright sun and in light of speedy play.
      If you really need all the information on how you are hitting the ball that day, get to the course early and hit 15-30 balls. I play enough to know what I am hitting for the day just by using my 7 iron, a hybrid and a few whacks with the driver. Case closed! If you don’t play that much for such feed back, then spend your money on range balls and get into the grove with your favorite iron and then compare the results with your other clubs. Yes, it takes some time but it will put you into the 80s none the less.

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      Streetcred

      3 years ago

      I’ve used Arccos for just on a year … no I lie, 6 weeks, although I’ve had the expensive subscription for that time but was unable to use it due to the improper mapping of my home course and the phone in the front pocket stupidity … we don’t all run around with those little iphones.
      ‘Link’ has made a huge difference and when I finally got the mapping fixed it worked as it was intended. It still doesn’t get ‘fairways hit’ correct and there is no place that I can find to correct that., but I am starting to enjoy using it and building my stats.
      If I have any advice for Arccos it would be to pay particular attention to its customer service … it has been shockingly bad. And, Samsung has the largest slice of the phone market, so see that the Samsung interface issues are fixed.
      BTW, not that my Samsung has a battery draining issue, but I drop in a small battery charger to my Clicgear trolley and plug in the phone to ensure that it stays 100% charged during a round.

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      Jon

      3 years ago

      Arccos needs to learn from Shotscope and put the mic on a gps watch. The link isn’t great and who on earth wants to play with a phone in their front pocket? Or put the mic on a glove or on a trolley.

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      Tiger168

      3 years ago

      … or play with a battery at the end ofeach of their clubs.

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      Brjann

      3 years ago

      Link is a great add on. Makes phone in front pocket issue go away and it detects shots better. I only look at my phone if I need the app for gps distances now. It’s in bag or bac pocket.

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      Steven M.

      3 years ago

      I’ve been intrigued with this product, but never pulled the credit card to purchase. The big unknown for me personally is technology. With tech changing every (18) months, how soon before it becomes obsolete with a new product line and no longer supported? Smart phones, computers, and software over the years make my point.

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      Streetcred

      3 years ago

      Apart from the mechanical sensors, it is software driven and in the year that I have had mine, the software has had substantial updating with improvements like ‘shots gained’ stats, etc.
      So its probably not as prone to obsolescence as what hardware is.

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      Mike

      3 years ago

      I do not like Arccos at all. I bought the first version where the sensors were screwed into the end of the grip. Maybe played 3 rounds when they started poping off and were lost. Bought the second set where they were inserted into the grips. Paid I think over $200 for them and found out only after I purchased them that they do not work if you have hearing aids. Called them and all I got was a sorry, we are working on a fix. Never heard back from them again. POOR, POOR, customer service.

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      Brjann

      3 years ago

      Odd that you haven’t had good experience with support – if there is something they get a lot of kudos for all over us their support. Replace off sensors if lost. I’ve had the screw ins for over two years and haven’t lost any but over a year ago I used grips that had the sensors not fitting snuggly so I used a strip of electrical tape and have done so ever since.

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      Birdieputt13

      3 years ago

      While there is no doubt that technology is offering reams of date for those so inclined, I question whether the average golfer would purchase and use Arccos hardware and data. For someone who plays 75 rounds a year, simply keeping Fairways hit, GIR’s and putting data offers all of the information that I need. Varying weather conditions also make me somewhat skeptical of making the investment. With varying temperature, wind and humidity, what is Arccos data going to do for my game ?.

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      Mike Eng

      3 years ago

      I am a 2 hdcp and had the same thoughts, what it did for me was to really show my actual distance with every club, this really help me and show me where I was losing the most strokes (approach) which coincidently was because of what I thought I hit my clubs!

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      Mike

      3 years ago

      How can it show you distance with every club? When I play at my links-style course, there are extremely varying weather conditions such as wind, wetness of turf, etc. Maybe I don’t understand how it works. For me though, it’s the last distraction I would want.

      Mike

      3 years ago

      Coincidentally (probably not), if you decide to buy the arccos, they have a discount code of ‘MGS’ right now. You can get the bundle (sensors and clip) shipped to the lower 48 for $252. The only thing I’m not crazy about is the subscription price, and from other reviews, it sounds like their customer service is lacking.

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      Joe L

      3 years ago

      I will say that ShotScope’s Customer Service is incredibly responsive, so thank you for letting me know Arccos’ CS is lacking.

      Also, ShotScope has gotten MUCH better at not missing shots….my last round was flawless & required no editing.

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      HAC

      3 years ago

      Can’t I get mostly the same info from Shotscope without paying an annual fee and get a GPS watch to boot? Why should I get Arccos rather than Shotscope. Are there differences in data I should care about enough to pay the annual fee.

      Brjann

      3 years ago

      Sorry just have to weigh in and balance out on this notion that Arccos support is not good. It’s awesome and very responsive. Will get on calls, zoom or whatever needed to help you resolve the issue. is it a perfect product – no. But they stand by there products and services and offer top notch support.

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      Dave

      3 years ago

      Agree whole heartedly. I’ve used Arccos for a few years and have had a number of times I needed to interact with their customer service… replacement sensors, upgrade opportunities, data refreshes. They have put me first in every situation, great responsive customer service and I’m very pleased with the product and analytics.

      TBT

      3 years ago

      I used Arccos for about a year and having to keep my phone in my pocket and all the missed shots made me quit using it.

      I ending spending too much time editing shots during the round and I got frustrated with it. Granted this was the 1st generation sensors.

      I did like the Arccos driver sensor that I used during the original Cobra Challenge but it wouldn’t work with the generation 1 sensors.

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      Steven Roglen

      3 years ago

      **Mick Foley, not Mike

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      TenBuck

      3 years ago

      Having all of this information is great and very useful..if you’re that type of person who tracks all of the technicalities of a golf round. One look at my scorecard after a round and I can tell you(as most on here can) where I screwed up. Generally it will be my lack of GIR’s. A couple of guys in our group have Arccos and they seem to like it and the information it provides, plus they’re into all of this tech stuff where I’m not.

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      Joe L

      3 years ago

      I feel your pain….missing GIRs is my downfall as-well & I don’t need ANY technology to tell me that as I chip/pitch from the rough.

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      Brjann

      3 years ago

      Biggest learning I had on missed greens when starting to use Arccos was that over 70% of my missed greens where short. I used the smart distance and I’m at about 20% missed short and up from 30 to over 50% GIR

      Wes

      3 years ago

      I’m too poor to pay for Arccos so I have a second scorecard I use to track basically all the same data points, then have a spreadsheet I update and use with coach to know what to work on. Biggest help is to track your approach and not just GIR. If you “power fade” one OB, you will lose the data point on that approach shot since it won’t be a GIR.

      Arccos would save me a lot of time but I’m poors…also a late night bourbon updating my golf spready after the kids are in bed is solid Saturday night for me.

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      Tom S

      3 years ago

      I got the arccos sensors when I bought my SpeedZone driver in 2020. At first I wouldn’t trust the A.I. recommendations of which clubs to use because I knew better…once you trust the recommendations your game improves and you start seeing strokes gained round after round. So far over a couple of months my handicap improved from a 21 to a 19. Can’t wait for all this snow to melt to get back out there with them in 2021!

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      Steve S

      3 years ago

      As a career engineer for 40 years I spent a good part of my life studying and analyzing data. I like what’s happening with this technology but I’m not using it. Why? A number of years ago I started manually tracking my performance. I found that the more I practiced and played the better I got. Shocking, huh? I really improved last year when I had nothing to do but cut my lawn, take walks with the wife, go to the range and play golf. I hit the range a lot(and TOP Golf which was great target practice, Target Oriented Practice, btw.) I played 3-5 times a week. For the first time in my life my handicap dropped below 10 and by December was at an 8. I know my game enough to know what I need to work on. The original manually obtained data helped with that. I will use this technology if/when things go off the rails and I’m at a loss as how to fix it.

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      Brjann

      3 years ago

      Sounds like you like data. Should try Golfmetrics, Decade or similar that allows you to manually track stats and give you shots gained info. Game changer for me to play way more consistent golf. If you like the stats then you can look into a gadget like Arccos or Shotscope.

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      Jon Silverberg

      3 years ago

      oops…”No Putts Given” and if this site had a better search tool, I could point you to the date and episode #…

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      Jon Silverberg

      3 years ago

      There was a No Shots Given episode in which the team compared Arccos to ShotScope, and they basically fought to a draw.

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      TR1PTIK

      3 years ago

      If I’m not mistaken, that was simply a fun debate exercise and not a thorough review and comparison of either platform.

      NPG Episode 46

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      Max R

      3 years ago

      I would consider purchasing the devices for my clubs if they could (using AI, etc.) to adjust for wind, humidity, elevation similar to what my SwingU app does for me currently. If it give me swing speed then that would be great, too. BTW, the spelling of “Arccos’s” is incorrect! It’s Arccos’.

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      Rob L

      3 years ago

      Arccos does adjust for wind, elevation, temperature and humidity in its AI caddy recommendations.

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      Tom Stack

      3 years ago

      Got my first arccos sensors after I bought my SpeedZone driver in 2020. These sensors are game changers and in a couple months have dropped my handicap from 21 to 19. Sometimes I would second guess the A.I. recommendation of club selection and end up in bad spots. Trusting it is the hard part when your ego gets in the way but once you do it changes your game and improves your score and overall stokes gained round after round.

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      Joe L

      3 years ago

      I am a current user/proponent of a ‘competing shot-tracking & data product’ but thinking of switching to Arccos with the advent/ability of Link. (no phone…yea!) & Ping 425 now supporting Arccos.

      Would love to see Arccos add the Samsung watch soon (as I currently wear a ‘watch’ while playing now).

      Are the features of AI Caddy (for non-tournament rounds) & data analysis worth the jump? Does Arccos have issues with missing/not recording shots?

      Appreciate any insights.

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      Tom S.

      3 years ago

      I believe they have the arccos app on the WearOS platform, not sure if that is the same or different for Samsung

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      Streetcred

      3 years ago

      Since I’ve started to use the ‘Link’, my Arccos hasn’t missed a shot but it has missed a couple of putts … must have been the tap-ins.

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      Randall Barkan

      3 years ago

      I have the Arccos link device, as I refuse to play with phone in my pocket. It misses an average of about 10 strokes per round, which makes the thing pretty worthless.. I actually have found their customer service to be quite responsive. They replaced my original link device with a new one, in the hope that the problem was due to a defect in that one piece of equipment. But I have the same problem with the new one.

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      Garen Eggleston

      3 years ago

      Cool info and one we should all checkout and I’m sure it’ll get better and better

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      Douglas Keyston

      3 years ago

      I’m sure it’s a great product, however the above goes hyperbolic. I turned to Shot Scope when they downsized their V3 watch and have never looked back. Then Arccos had you carrying your phone with you. Really? The two products are quite close; why not a comparison instead of ceding your praise to Arccos? Their industry (club) integration is to be admired and makes them the leader. Their RFID tags are twice the size of Shot Scope, quite bulky to me.

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      Don Loughney

      3 years ago

      Douglas. Shot Scope great for long game but surely lacking in short game especially putting. I played three rounds with the v3, carefullly marked the hole position and used a tape measure to assure the putting length. The shot scope results after the round were very poor and took a long time to try to correct making the product unusable for putting. One hole had the cup in the front when it was in the back. Hopefully you noticed the same thing.

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      HARRIS

      3 years ago

      I’ve used both – Shotscope for a year and sold it to my buddy. The biggest issue with Shotscope is that if you have a sleeve that covers the watch, it blocks the sensor so it missed the club recognition. In the summer I had zero issues but in the fall and winter where I wear light jacket while playing, I had to consistently remember to tuck my sleeve while practice swing or manually tab on the back of the wrist. With Apple watch (if you already have one), the recognition of the club were way faster and better. Long run wise, Shotscope will definitely be better choice if you can bear the issue I mentioned. Another down side of Shotscope is that you cannot look into the progress while playing since you need to export the data to your phone.

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      Bradley Rose

      3 years ago

      I agree with Doug about Arccos keeping you attached to your phone. I also want to add that when I was using Arccos the AI Caddie was wrong on more than a few occasions. I’m constantly playing new courses so the right club selection is critical, especially when the app is telling you to use one or even two clubs more than needed. Once I used the Shotscope V3 I boxed my Arccos sensors up and gave them away.
      If you like to continually throw money at a product that promises you the world and continues to come up short then Arccos is for you. But if you want something that works consistently and doesn’t keep asking you to reach for your wallet then give Shotscope a chance.

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      Brjann

      3 years ago

      Both platforms provide what you want though – your club distances. Shotscope doesn’t have the caddie function. Takes time for caddie to learn your game and even when it does it’s still, just like a real caddie, a suggestion that you as a player needs to override. It’s a mathematical/AI based caddie and has no way of knowing how you are hitting it today or if there is a huge tree blocking the dogleg it suggests you to cut. Glad you are enjoying your tech and happy to say I love my Arccos .. and I know a lot more about my game than before and don’t need/use the caddie very often

      TR1PTIK

      3 years ago

      Factual data = “hyperbolic”???

      It’s really a pointless debate anyway because all you get is fanboys on either side digging in and screaming their preferred platform is best without offering much more than anecdotal evidence. However, if you do look at the numbers, it would be pretty clear that Arccos has a leg up on the competition, and they arguably should since they’ve been around longer and have OEM integration.

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