The Costco 4-Piece Kirkland Signature Golf Ball is Back (or is it?)
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The Costco 4-Piece Kirkland Signature Golf Ball is Back (or is it?)

The Costco 4-Piece Kirkland Signature Golf Ball is Back (or is it?)

The legendary 4-piece Kirkland Signature golf ball is back!

That would be your entire headline, except for that fact that it’s gone. The entire inventory of $30 double-dozen boxes sold out. Again – seemingly in an instant. That part is pretty much par for the Costco course, though I expect that will change.

As with any headline, it doesn’t begin to tell the whole story. There’s a lesson in that, people, but I digress. The ball is back (and gone – but will be back again), Kirkland putters are coming (true story), and wedges too, and that means the golf world should brace itself for a full-on epidemic of K-Sig fever.

We’ll be doing some testing and cutting of the new balls ASAP (we were able to order a box), but in the meantime, I wanted to start by answering a question I’ve been asked several times already.

Is It the Same Ball as the Original?

Permit me to speculate. No. Hell no. No f’ing chance.

The new K-Sig is made in a different country at a different factory. It’s got a different cover with a different dimple pattern. It’s got a new sidestamp too. I can assure you, it’s a vastly different ball. That part is all reasonably easy to piece together.

Unfortunately, those critical details will likely be lost on the average Costco customer who won’t notice the change in the country of origin displayed on the box (China, not Korea this time) and will remain none the wiser, at least until the ball gets put into play.

Bottom line: While I’m open to being proven wrong (it won’t happen), the safe assumption is that the new ball won’t match the performance of the original. For $15 a dozen, it’ll be just fine, maybe even good-ish, but you’re not going to see legitimate tour-level tee to green performance this time around.

How can I know that? Let’s start with a bit of Kirkland Signature golf ball history:

The original K-Sig was a unicorn in the golf ball market. It was a $15/dozen, 4-piece ball with a thin cast urethane cover. That’s legitimate tour-level construction, and it delivered legitimate tour-level performance. At that price, the design shouldn’t have been possible, and as we saw, it definitely wasn’t sustainable.

Over the past couple of years, we’ve heard a few variations of the K-Sig’s origin story (overruns, a closet full of left-over cores), but the common thread in all of them is that most or all of that legendary design originated with TaylorMade before being sold (or, at a minimum, leased) to Costco by Nassau (the Korean factory that manufactured the original K-Sig). The ball you know (and love) as the Kirkland Signature 4-piece is still available in Europe as the Nassau Quattro.

So why doesn’t Costco still set it?

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As it has been explained to me, the larger ball manufacturers weren’t particularly pleased about Costco undercutting an entire ball market. To understand why it matters what the traditional golf OEMs think, it’s important to first understand that Nassau and a few other reputable factories are responsible for the majority of golf balls made for brands that don’t own factories (Wilson, Volvik, etc.). These same factories also produce a significant percentage of the 2-piece/ionomer balls for TaylorMade, Callaway, and others. It’s a huge chunk of the names-you-know ball market, and that’s before we include notable direct to consumer brands like Snell, Vice, and OnCore.

Long story short, some screws almost certainly got twisted, and the smart business move for Nassau was to cut Costco loose rather than risk losing reliable long-standing OEM business. That made the bigger customers happy and left Costco searching for a new factory to make balls for it to sell on the cheap. It’s why, as we predicted, once the original 4-piece K-Sig was gone, it was gone for good.

What We Know About the New Ball

We’ll know more once we can hit (and cut) the new 4-piece, but there’s a good bit we can piece together from the information at hand.

The new ball is produced in the same factory in China that makes the current Kirkland 3-piece model. That factory, formerly known as Fantom, was sold and is now operating as Qingdao SM Parker Golf Co. According to a source inside the ball industry, SM Parker, as the name might suggest, is closely aligned with SM Global LLC, a warehousing, logistics, packaging and repackaging company. The connection to SM Global is significant because Costco is one of the company’s largest clients (if not the largest). Notably, SM Global LLC has, for some time, been listed as the manufacturer of Kirkland golf balls on the USGA Conforming Ball List.

As an FYI, Fantom/SM Parker also supplies balls for direct to consumer brand Cut. It also supplied Snell’s MTB Red.

The first takeaway from all of this is that Costco is now much closer to the source of its golf balls. At Nassau, where the original K-Sig came from, the giant retailer wasn’t a priority customer. That won’t be the story this time around, so it’s reasonable to think that inventory issues will ease (the Costco website says the balls are expected back in stock October 15th).

Knowing both the factory and the specs from the USGA list, tell us quite a bit more. The USGA dimple specification for the new balls matches that of the current 3-piece ball. It’s a 338-dimple ball. The original 4-piece K-Sig was 360.

The crucial thing to understand here is that designing a viable dimple pattern is excruciatingly difficult. It requires specialized aerodynamic expertise, so when a factory has a design that works, it tends to use it over and over (and over) again. Because these cover designs are unique to each factory, the dimple count often provides a significant clue as to where a given ball is made.

It’s a reasonable assumption the covers on the 3-piece and 4-piece K-Sig balls are absolutely identical – and if that is the case, it’s going to be a big problem for anyone hoping the new ball will perform like the old ball.

Here’s why:

The cover Costco is using is thick (visible in our photos of the 3-piece ball). Thicker is almost invariably firmer, and that pretty much guarantees that the cover of the new ball won’t be nearly as soft as the cast urethane cover of the original Nassau ball (Nassau has expertise in casting thin urethane covers).

By comparison, SM Parker uses an injection molding technique, and while it’s possible to produce an injection-molded cover that’s soft and thin, that certainly isn’t the case with the other SM Parker produced urethane balls currently on the market.

As we saw in our ball test, the Kirkland 3-piece will give you plenty of spin on full swings when there’s still enough head speed to get into the middle layers of the golf ball. When you get closer to the green, however, spin is driven entirely by cover softness. More accurately, spin comes from the hardness difference between the cover and casing layers.

Around the green, a firm cover over a firm casing layer isn’t going to produce nearly the same amount of spin you get from a softer and thinner cover. That’s not an opinion; it’s the physics of spin working against a harder cover. It’s also true that thicker urethane covers are generally less durable than thinner ones.

Piling it on further; I’ll also mention that the current 3-piece ball isn’t particularly good in the wind. For lack of a more elegant description, the ball flight can get a little bit wonky and unpredictable. Given that the covers are almost certainly the same, I’d expect similar from the 4-piece.

The Probable Upside

While there’s plenty of buyer beware here, I don’t expect the new K-Sig will be a bad ball. SM Parker (formerly Fantom) is among the more reputable ball plants. We rated the 3-piece as Good, and I suspect the 4-piece will be just as Good. The thing is, we believe that serious golfers looking for complete tee to green performance should be looking almost exclusively at the balls we rated Very Good or Excellent. I’d wager the new K-Sig doesn’t qualify.

That said, I understand that not everyone wants to spend $50, or even $20 on a dozen golf balls. With that in mind, it’s worth mentioning that Costco is still giving you a 4-layer, urethane ball for roughly $15 bucks a dozen. You could absolutely spend more and get a lesser ball. That should count for something.

Signature Putters and Wedges Too

The ball may not be the only Kirkland golf story this fall. Those looking closely at Costo’s selection of images for the new 4-piece ball may have gotten a glimpse of what appears to be a Kirkland Signature putter. A source inside Costco has confirmed that the company is planning to launch a $149.99 putter which was described as “like a Scotty Cameron Newport.”

A Kirkland wedge is also in the works, and we’re told that the retail price for that will be 2 (possibly 3) for $99. That one is said to be like a Vokey.

Taking inspiration from Titleist may be a middle finger in response to the lawsuit Titleist filed over the original Kirkland Signature 4-piece. It may also be as simple as common sense as both Vokey and Cameron enjoy market-leading positions in their respective categories. Either way, the addition of hardgoods to the Costco golf lineup suggests that the company believes it can reach the budget-conscious golfer who’s no longer willing to foot the ever-increasing bill levied by the biggest names in the traditional golf market.

Sometimes just good is good enough.

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      El Conquistador

      5 years ago

      I just played today the new 4 piece K Sig. I thought the ball performed very well. I am a 16.6 index which translates to a 19 handicap at my course and I shot three strokes under my handicap. I had two of the longest drives that I’ve had in the past couple years. I had no problems with ball whatsoever. If the worst I have to deal with a few cuts now and then, I’ll keep buying

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      Lance Matteo

      5 years ago

      How do I stop getting notifications from this Kirkland Ball subject?

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      Pete

      5 years ago

      I bought some of these balls but haven;t had a chance to try them yet. I was considering returning them due to Costco’s great return policy and all the reviews indicating the problems with the cover. Then, I just received an e-mail from Costco right now stating they are refunding my money due to all the bad reviews they are receiving and that I don’t need to return the balls. This is without me ever complaining about the balls. The balls may need some work but Costco’s customer service certainly does not.

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      Chris

      5 years ago

      Yes, I just got the same message. For anyone wondering why customers are loyal to Costco … there you go.

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      Will

      5 years ago

      Played a sleeve of the new Kirkland 4piece & old 4piece;. With the Driver, distance is about the same; with the irons, the new one is about 5-7yds longer & had more of a click msound than the old 4piece. When putting, the new 4 piece is hotter, having more click to it than the old 4 piece. Did not expierence any cuts at all. If you don’t mind the click, it’s a nice ball; it’s not as soft as a V1 (which is longer & softer), but a very decent, playable ball for $30 for 2 dozen…

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      MIGregB

      5 years ago

      I just salt water floated 2 dz balls & the new 4-pc ball seems to be a bit more inconsistently balanced than the original Kirkland, as well as the Snells & ProVs I’ve checked. I found 3 that seemed very out-of-balance but 4 that were perfect. The remainder slowly came back to one spot on par with the Snells & ProVs I’ve checked. We’ll see how they play.

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      Caroline

      5 years ago

      Wasting your time, the cover is not secured properly or at all….manufacturing defect, Urethane cover must have something to stick it to the mantel layer or it comes loose very easy and if it cuts at all ball is not going to perform well depending on how big the creak or cut is….just a tee and peel off the cover it will come right off.

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      MIGregB

      5 years ago

      Thank you!

      Golfertim777

      5 years ago

      Many agree that their is a major “ball cover” quality & durability issue that Costco needs to address before releasing this ball again. Their are forums and pictures surfacing all over the internet that proof this. Also, their website is getting many more similar, negative comments on the new 4 piece ball. Many comment even if their is no outside damage, the inner surface of the ball is separating causing flight issues. The new ball seems to play VERY WELL at times like the original, but right now it is not recommended to buy until Costco sorts out their ball covers tearing, ripping, and separating. I really hope Costco does, because I loved this ball while I played it and certainly at a wonderful price.

      Todd Blumer

      5 years ago

      Some friends and I played a round of golf, all of us using the new four-piece Performance One ball. Average handicap was about 9 for the group. 2 of us had previously played the Korean-made four-piece ball. Overall, everyone in the group liked the ball with distance and feel. We liked the softness around the green and experienced good distance (one of the guys could hit 300+ yards, and compared it favorably to other premium balls). But, the Urethane cover is thin. On one hit, the ball suffered a slice in the cover over 1/4″ long. It was the only ball cut in the round, except for one that hit the cart path and had a much smaller cut in it. Overall, I’d like the cover to be as durable as the Korean-made four-piece, but for the price, I can discard an occasional cut ball (one cut ball in about 54 holes played with the ball, total).

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      PineValley

      5 years ago

      Good number of one star reviews have shown up on the Costco website claiming the new KSig cuts very easily:
      https://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signature-4-piece-Urethane-Cover-Golf-Ball%2C-2-dozen.product.100508739.html

      Will be playing today – will come back here later with any issues.

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      PineValley

      5 years ago

      Played the new 4 piece today, no cut issues at all. Losing one was my only issue!
      I do like this ball.
      12 index

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      Jim W

      5 years ago

      Played 9 today. First. I like the ball. Good greenside spin. Nice sound when striking. Good feel on the free. Got no unusual flights. Shot 4 over for 9. My driver swing speed is 85-90 mph. But on an 8 iron to a green, hit the ball well, it landed on green and skipped up about 6-8 feet. But when I picked up the ball to clean it, it had a hairline crack in the cover. Not a cut but a crack. About 1/3 to 1/2 inch. Never had that happen in my experience. At that point in the round that was my 6th time hitting the ball. The rest of the sleeve held up OK.

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      G.SE

      5 years ago

      Most are probably from employees at titleist, callaway, and TaylorMade doing whatever they can to put the balls in a negative light.

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      Jim W

      5 years ago

      Nope. No such luck. Played a second 9 today. New sleeve of balls. 2 ended up with cuts/cracks. One on the second hit of the ball. Durability definitely an issue. But performance is good.

      Caroline

      5 years ago

      I took note in the article, same factory that produced the Snell MTB red, which was a 4 piece urethane covered ball. (no longer sold by Snell) If you have read or played any Snell ball then you know they are very good balls…so that is enough said about who is making the ball for Costco and what quality they produce…

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      Golfnsea

      5 years ago

      Played a quick 9 holes yesterday and the new balls were great! Spin like crazy around the greens and distance is similar to my other gamer ball Srixon.

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      Tim

      5 years ago

      POS ball……this one will damage the Costco reputation moving forward

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      Scoot24

      5 years ago

      Don’t keep falling for the marketing hype the big OEMs are throwing at you. This ball will be as good as most balls played on a daily bases and for a much lower price. The majority of golfers don’t play well enough to even know the difference in balls.

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      Richard

      5 years ago

      Tim must work for an OEM ball manufacturer…Costco reputation will only increase as they produce quality goods at discounted price. Can’t wait for the Scotty putter killer.

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      Wes Parkhurst

      5 years ago

      Received new Kirkland 4 piece ball. Played it yesterday and it is much longer off the driver than 3 piece ball. Appears to be a very good ball and for the price it is hard to beat. It putts with a good feel. Looking forward to Tony’s testing and opinion.

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      Benny

      5 years ago

      Seriously boys settle down. MGS is simply giving their thoughts and ideas against the facts they know.
      As for K-Sig I think it’s great and always worth a try. I found a couple of the OG’s on the course and played great. Especially in the cold. But I had my best season in years and am all TP5x..

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      Chris

      5 years ago

      7 hcp. here. Don’t know when I’ll get good enough to distinguish “tour-level performance,” but I sure get a kick out of mid-cappers who claim to be able to see 5-7 yd. differences in their irons or woods. Heck, I’ll lose 25 yds. on my driver just by hitting it off the heel. As far as the new Kirkland ball, I got my two dozen and chipped and putted with them for about 90 min. yesterday (mixed into a grab bag of this year’s Pro V1x, Srixon Z Stars, Maxfli Tours, and MTB-Xs). SUPER soft/quiet off the putter, and perfectly acceptable and predictable flight and spin on chips and pitches. I’ll play 18 on Sat. and try them out, but based on years of data, here is what I’ll bet — unless these things balloon on EVERY shot, I’ll shoot 76-80 if I’m swinging well, depending on how many 5-10 footers I get to fall, and If I’m NOT swinging well, I’ll shoot 80-84. The ball just won’t figure into it that much. For every time I try — and fail — to stop a chip on a down slope, I’ll have at least one shot that takes an extra bounce or two more than I expect and ends up 5-10 ft. closer to the hole than it should. I need more variance than that to justify an extra $30/dz.

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      Brandon

      5 years ago

      You pretty much just described my golf game too a tee.

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      Mikey

      5 years ago

      I am an 11 right now and it’s exactly as you say. There are putts I make and chips I leave close that were just lucky. Unless you can pure every shot, there is no way you can assert that it was the ball that made the difference in your length. I

      Pete

      5 years ago

      Be interested in hearing how your round goes. I’ve seen several people now who are having issues with the urethane cover cutting. Would certainly like to hear whether you end up with this issue.

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      Chris

      5 years ago

      Will definitely be back to post an update.

      Chris

      5 years ago

      See the post under my original message for a summary of the round.

      Scoot 24

      5 years ago

      Thank you, thank you. I’m a 14 handicap so really can’t judge on the performance of a ball but I would say that I fall into the category of the majority of golfers. All of the ball discussions always annoy me because it is obvious that the commenters have fallen into the trap of great marketing. I get a kick out of the people I golf with making comments about only playing Pro V1 when I consistently beat them by 5 strokes and I’m not very good. Although I think Tony made too many assumption in this article, this ball will do great on the market due it’s great price and good performance.

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      Chris

      5 years ago

      Well, sorry to be predictable, but shot 79 (41/38) on a par 72 course playing just under 6,800 yds. Driver was awful all day. Played six holes with the Kirkland, three over par, thanks mostly to two three-putts. Lost it on a flukey bounce that took me into the elephant grass bordering a hazard. Played Srixon Z Star the rest of the way, putter got hot, and had five par saves (and 13 putts) on the back nine without hitting a single fairway (!).

      Thoughts on the Kirkland ball: Pretty predictable performance. I wasn’t driving well, so drives weren’t great. Hit a beautiful hybrid recovery shot from 205 and a great 6 iron from about 170, and spoiled both by blowing putts through the break and missing the comeback. All me, not the ball. I didn’t see a lot of movement on shots; I thought I overdrew a 5 wood on one hole, but it softened up and ended up left edge of the fairway. Durability does seem to be an issue, at least with this batch, and little bits of the cover had lifted up in one place, probably from a wedge shot. I suspect it would have looked pretty raggedy if it made it the whole 18, but I didn’t see any cracks that would make it unplayable. So … a perfectly playable ball for a good price, but the durability might cancel out some of the savings.

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      Dick

      5 years ago

      Tried new ball again Yesterday in a scramble so could put hands on every shot…ball plays good period..but cover is a big problem, took one apart that split and having done so with hundreds of golf balls safe to say there is a problem with cover not being secured to the mantel layer in any fashion. most good balls have a kind of paint or glue between mantel and cover or at least a couple sticky tack points somewhere between cover and mantel…..with the power swings I see from time to time out on the course there is not way someone will want any degree of looseness between that cover and the rest of the ball….so hit a something hard like a cart path and it is safe to say that ball is history….

      Fred

      5 years ago

      Just played 18 using both new Kirkland and my normal gamer Maxfli Tour X; Similarly hit Driver Ping G400 Sft set at 13 degree loft, Kirkland 5-7 yards shorter; fairway woods (Callaway Rogue 4) also shorter. Pitching Wedge (Ping G400) and 58 Degree wedge (Ping Glide 2.0 wide sole) fly higher but are also shorter. With no violence in my swing can’t afford to give up any distance. Putting similar Kirkland a little clickier than Maxfli; don’t know if this is because of different forms of Urethane Cover. Putter is Ping Sigma 2 Arna extended to 36 inches with 1 degree less loft.

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      Bill

      5 years ago

      I am using the Maxfli Tour. Is the Maxfli Tour X more comparable to to the ProV1x while the Tour is more like the black numbered ProV1? Thinking about exchanging a dozen to find out. I too am a 7 handicap. The MT is a great ball but I am curious about the X.

      As for Kirkland, I will not touch it until I see ample inventory.

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      Grant

      5 years ago

      8.1 HCP. I just started playing the Maxfli Tour. Main ball is Chromesoft. So far loving the MT. I also bought a dozen MTX. Feel very similar -but for me aren’t as soft. I LOVED the prior 4-piece K-Sig. I purchased another 2 dozen this time around and am playing 18 tomorrow. They look/feel very similar to the previous 4 piece and every bit a tour ball (MT, ProV etc.)

      James

      5 years ago

      Boys you might want to head over to golfers. This ball has already been cut open and it is not the same cover as the 3 piece.

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      Lance Matteo

      5 years ago

      Competition is what made this country great! The OEM ball and equipment manufactures are afraid of what Costco just might bite into there bottom line which no one has been successful in doing in the last 50 years. Finally, someone with more financial backing than all those established golf companies put together has enough BALLS excuse the pun to break into to their hugh profit making club and show the golfing population that it doesn’t have to be that expensive for the average golfer to enjoy a great product. If Costco’s equipment shows promise as being comparable in quality and feel to the high priced big name equipment, I will fill my K-Sig bag with K-Sig cavity back irons and wedges, putter and driver. Press on Costco and change the face of Golf for all of us who appreciate decent quality equipment that doesn’t cost a fortune!

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      Brandon

      5 years ago

      Preach on, brother. I’m with you.

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      Scoot 24

      5 years ago

      Agree totally. The big OEMs make good products but what they are best at is marketing. If people started testing more products from companies like Tours Edge I think they would be surprised.

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      Simms

      5 years ago

      Agree to that, went from 5 year old Mizuno irons to Hogan a month ago, $400 cheaper and for me play just fine, still have that forged feel, reason was I wanted a softer shaft and back to the old True Temper brand shaft…new is always more fun then re-shafting….

      Greg P

      5 years ago

      You guys are great!

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      Deadeye

      5 years ago

      I’m a twenty hc so I lose a fair amount of golf balls. For the money I have not found a better ball than ksig three piece. When I throw a few extra dollars in the game then the Maxfli Tour seems to fly a little higher and farther. I missed the current issue of ksig four piece but planning on ordering some. Golf equipment prices are too high so glad to see Costco doing their bit to reduce them.
      In that vein I was looking for a new driver last week so I went to my local First Tee and bought a 2010 Ping K15 in excellent condition for $50.00. Best driver I have ever owned. All hail the greatest game!

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      Mike Reed

      5 years ago

      I have tried the Kirkland 3 piece ball on two occasions and both times found that the cover scuffed after only a few holes of play. I also did not like the feel of the ball off my irons although I thought it did fine when chipping and putting. I wish Costco would go back to selling the Callaway balls they did for many years. They were very good and a good value for the money.

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      Frank Wight

      5 years ago

      Costco carries Callaway. Just saw the Hex Tour Soft on the website

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      GMac

      5 years ago

      Just cut open the new Performance One KSig and it appears to have almost the same cover thickness as the Tour Performance. It does tho seem to have a slightly deeper dimple. If you want to have the best chance at ordering when the next batch comes out sign up for the Costco email offers.

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      Stew

      5 years ago

      So can someone tell me why the old K-Sig was removed from the USGA ball list?

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      storm319

      5 years ago

      Submissions to the USGA conforming balls list expire 12 months after the initial publication. At that point, the OEM must resubmit the model for conformance testing. Since Costco are no longer selling the KSig Tour Performance, there is little incentive to resubmit and pay to have it retested.

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      Drew

      5 years ago

      Love to see Costco putting more products in the golf line. Hope to see a drivers, bags, apparel in the near future as well!

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      Alex

      5 years ago

      If my other link that I submitted does not go through (if it did , delete), MGS did cut the ball open and compared with OG Ksig (but not the 3 piece which was in my other link, but a “rival” website)

      https://twitter.com/MyGolfSpy/status/1173973050565582849

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      sean

      5 years ago

      you should edit the post ASAP. It’s obvious that you wrote the story without seeing the ball first. new 4piece has very thin cover just like original 4 piece.
      Someone already cut it and posted online.

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      Ken

      5 years ago

      Will be interesting to see how the ball perform in your testing.. On the USGA golf ball conforming list the ball is shown as a M-H ball. Given Costco’s Kirkland Signature stamp a 4 pc urethane ball should be up against other tour level balls and produced to compete at that level. This would mean a ball with spin & distance characteristics equal to tour level balls. If it does have a cover thickness not equal to a tour level ball, and the accompanying spin performances then it should not have the “Kirkland Signature “ stamp. Lastly on the law suit with Titleist. First of all I do not think Costco is in any way swayed by the presence of Titleist in the golf marketplace. Costco is a $150 billion dollar (revenue) company. One of the largest company by revenue on the planet. Their legal budget may be in the amount of what Titleist generates annually which is approx $2B. (Acushnet) Costco is always looking to stamp their Kirkland Signature brand name on products so my guess is they are vigilant in making a product of equal value to the top brands without causing a legal issue. A huge legal budget aside, Costco wants their Kirkland Signature branded products to do exactly what they are intended to do – which is be as equal to the top 3 or so brand names in a product category. Will see how this new 4pc ball stacks up performance wise.

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      Will

      5 years ago

      Xmas at Costco this year; grabbed 2 cases of water, 2 dozen eggs, 2 wedges, putter & 2 dozen balls, gas – still staying under $300. Think the old lady will notice?

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      Dave

      5 years ago

      Looking forward to Tony’s update folling MGS cutting the ball on Twitter and revealing a thin cover. We’ve got a developing story here!

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      jg observer

      5 years ago

      The Kirkland 4 piece original was my go to ball along with Snell Red. It is sad to see it go. maybe Costco will see the upswell of disappointment and will find a way to bring it back. Thanks for MygolfSpy to be on top onf this.

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      Matthew

      5 years ago

      From the ball testing review, my take was that the Inesis 900 from Decathlon was in effect the new Kirkland ball! The bonus is you can buy it in-store, Result!

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      James

      5 years ago

      Sorry, but this article already seems to be dated and include a lot of guesswork. A quick check of the massive KSig thread on GolfWRX would reveal that someone has received the balls on 9/16 and cut them open. Thin cover that more closely resembles the original KSig.

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      Wilson Player

      5 years ago

      Great info James.
      I found those photos and the cover thickness looks very similar to the original (thin). Also a lot of reviews by people who actually have the ball in hand and played on the course. Several also said the finish and stamping looked much better than the first versions.

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      G.SE

      5 years ago

      I simply mentioned Wrx during Mgs first go around with all the hype. Informed them on Twitter of a massive thread with lots of good info over at wrx before any stories started popping up here. Been banned ever since. Mgs wanted all the credit for the hype the first time and by the looks of it this time to.

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      daviddvm

      5 years ago

      Very good info Tony, keep cutting!

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      Steve S

      5 years ago

      The 4 piece balls sold out in less than 2 days. This is almost becoming a cult.

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      Daniel

      5 years ago

      Now they are on eBay for $60 dz

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      shortside

      5 years ago

      It’ll be more proof there’s a sucker born every minute. With 2 to take ’em.

      shortside

      5 years ago

      Which is why I don’t bother for now. If they ever have product in stock regularly I might consider them. Dick’s just had the Maxfli Tour’s at $20. As an added bonus they were in stock.

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      Scoot24

      5 years ago

      Dick’s/Golf Galaxy are out of the question for me. They got too political with the firearm issue. Not permitting soldiers and veterans, under the age of 21, who are willing to risk their lives to preserve our freedom is too much for me to buy anything from them.

      Alex

      5 years ago

      It sounds like the new K Sig could be quite similar to the new Cut Blue DC ball. Same number of layers, same factory, same number of dimples…

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      ryebread

      5 years ago

      I hope for Costco and the golf consumer that the KSig is better than the Cut balls. Those were the only tested balls that MGS rated as “poor.”

      The cut away looks different….

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      Kevin

      5 years ago

      Cut balls are terrible. It is hilarious watching the “influencers” gush over the crappy balls.

      Andrew

      5 years ago

      As I recall, the Cut DC was not yet to market- and thus not included, when the testing was conducted.

      G-Q Josephson

      5 years ago

      NOT the same factory from what I have been told. Fantom only moved forward with Costco, causing Snell and Cut to go elsewhere.

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      Tony Covey

      5 years ago

      This one is interesting. Import logs show a shipment to CUT arrived from SM Parker on the 13th. It was relatively small, however, so it’s certainly possible that it’s the last of the relationship. The bulk of CUT product (probably the new ball) is now coming from GTS in Tawain, which also makes balls for Callaway, TaylorMade, and Wilson.

      Snell used Fantom (at the time) for the MTB Red. That one disappeared from the lineup quietly and relatively quickly (cover thickness and durability issues). His stuff comes from Nassau I believe. He’s had a relationship there for a while as they produce a good bit of the inner layers for the premium TM stuff.

      What you’re seeing is a trend in the DTC market and the ball market in general. There are capacity issues – it’s why Vice and OnCore have occasionally had inventory issues. As bigger brands (and I suppose Costco qualifies for SM Parker) exert more pressure on their factories, it limits line time for smaller brands, and in many cases, pushes them out of Tier-1 factories. With that, quality and consistency almost invariably decline. There’s a race of sorts underway to open more ball plants, but it remains to be seen how quickly that will happen, and what the quality of the product will be once everything gets up and running. There’s only so much expertise in the ball industry, and it’s already spread thin.

      Walter

      5 years ago

      No thanks to the Costco balls. After reading your very comprehensive ball report I’ll stick with Z Star. Now the Costco putters and wedges might be an interesting read though when MGS gets some to test.

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      rick

      5 years ago

      Odd, why the Costco hate? I got some Srixon Z Stars during their BOGO sale, and it’s a great ball, just a little shorter and less bite on the green than the OG Kirkland 4 piece ball.

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      GTJake84

      5 years ago

      Love it! My game is sporadically “good enough” so low dollar equipment that is consistently “good enough” is great fit for me. Only problem is I play left handed ??‍♂️. Any word on if new clubs will be available both RH & LH? Last I checked Kirkland golf gloves were ONLY RH. ?

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      Jack Whiting

      5 years ago

      Will probably be 30% more up in Canada if they make it up here. Will probably stick with the Taylormade RBZ balls Costco sells up here for $27(cdn.) for 2dozen. Would love to see the new putter and wedges though.

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      Ken Mercier

      5 years ago

      Why would you play the shit rocketballz. At least twice this year the srixon has been on sale for 40% and 50%off that is 30 and 25 dollars a box. In Canada. For one of the MGS excellent balls. I get that it might be twice as expensive but i would suggest you get way better performance. I’ve been playing it for a couple of years and it most definitely is an excellent ball

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      Jack W.

      5 years ago

      Don’t care for any of the Srixon balls I’ve tried in the past. Always liked the Taylormade products. The RBZ franchise has been around for quite a few years, so I would hazard to guess it is a money maker for Taylormade. Can you imagine the money they could make it they weren’t “shit” balls!

      Jack W.

      5 years ago

      Don’t care for any of the Srixon balls I’ve tried in the past. Always liked the Taylormade products. The RBZ franchise has been around for quite a few years, so I would hazard to guess it is a money maker for Taylormade. Can you imagine the money they could make if they weren’t “shit” balls!

      Ronald williams

      5 years ago

      Why are the KSIG balls gone before costco members get the email notice that they are even back in stock, the same day I get the notice they are sold out. Do some people have a inside track.

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      Josh Sopczak

      5 years ago

      I wondered that exact hypothesis for all the original K-Sig 4pc ball launches, as I missed each one with no notice. However, I happened to search golf balls the other day, and they were in stock. I completed that order within 1 minute to ensure I finally got to try some of these! I really think they are not telling anyone, simply to keep it fair and random.

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      Joe

      5 years ago

      MGS Twitter account gave me the heads up and I was able to get 2 boxes. Also of you use Google alerts you can set it for keywords like Kirkland golf ball and get emails when they appear on the web

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      Kevin

      5 years ago

      Tony, excellent story with great details and explanations. Two question – 1: given the amount of reverse engineering and copying that goes on in the industry how likely is it that K-Sig will release a “good” putter/wedge? Question 2: if copying is a viable way to produce a decent club why don’t more of the budget clubs (for example, Solus and Ray Cook) do better?

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      Sharkhark

      5 years ago

      Probably because nobody would look at them… The reason these will sell is thousands of shoppers at Costco walking the aisles with wives saying “bill would love that wedge set for Xmas… He golf’s…”

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      daryl kariniemi

      5 years ago

      Awesome reporting Tony!!! Love getting such detailed info about the balls. Please release it in yellow Costco!!!!!

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      JR

      5 years ago

      Great stuff, as always, Tony.

      I’m a KSig fan (their new glove is another great addition to the line of golf products!) and would love to game a Costco putter. Completely get in the head of my best golf partners!

      Look forward to more.

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      Ryebread

      5 years ago

      Great read Tony. That’s real data not just rehashed marketing fluff pulled directly from a press release.

      I am inherently cheap and lose balls because I am a pretty average golfer (stink by internet golfer standards, but probably a top 20% overall golfer based on all that play). I aim for < $22 after taxes a dozen, new. That mostly puts me in the 2 piece range, with the occasional “better” ball if there’s some sort of promotion.

      If I recall, outside the AVX none of those were really in the ball test. My guess is though that they’d all be lower than the “good” category. As you mention, good might be good enough, particularly if it is better than everything else in the price range (e.g. Duo soft, Callaway Supersoft, Srixon Soft Feel, etc.). I’d be really curious to see how these do not just against Tour level balls, but also against their competitors based on price point.

      Also, Costco, if you are listening, how about a yellow version? Some of us can’t see white well in the sun and clouds.

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      Kris

      5 years ago

      I have never had the opportunity to try the Kirkland balls but you just can’t beat the price for the supposed slightly less optimal performance. Any idea when the putter and wedges will drop? Those will be extremely interesting!

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      Steve

      5 years ago

      Tony,
      Great Kirkland ball article, and snippets of some of the other lower priced balls made it even better. I do have a question though, as I don’t remember all the stats from your golf ball reviews. The Oncore is the ball I chose to play over Snell, Vice, etc.. Was it high or low in your reviews? ( hoping it was rated above “just good”)
      Thanks
      Steve

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      Steve Pona

      5 years ago

      Solid article with plenty of reasonable rationale behind the speculation. I have an order otw and look forward to testing.

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      Berniez40

      5 years ago

      A most excellent article. I can’t wait to see the wedges and putter. I agree with both of your postulations. It is definitely a smart marketing move, but it certainly appears as if Costco is also giving Titleist the old Jr. Peaceman Salute. LOL—Keep up the great work.

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      GolfHo

      5 years ago

      Like the fact Costco is making value putter and wedge. Scotty Cameron stole his Newport design from Ping. More choices are better for the consumer…unless you have the Titleist monopoly threat (lawsuit) fear of competition and choice.

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      john young

      5 years ago

      GREAT INFORMATION…. Thanks for doing the research and sharing it with all of us. I think that the putter and wedges will be welcomed by many of our golfers. The numbers of under 10 handicap versus the over 10 handicaps coupled with the number of lost golf balls by those of us over 10 hdcp will probably give COSTCO enough business to make it worth it. Do you think that pro-shops will ever stock and sell Costco golf products ?? THANKS AGAIN

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      golfinnut

      5 years ago

      Love the middle finger to Titleist with the putter & wedges coming out. I suspect around X-mas time? And they will, of course, sell out quickly. “Hey, you’ve been putting well today, what kind of putter is that?” “Kirkland Signature series …. got it the other day while picking up toilet paper.”

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      daviddvm

      5 years ago

      Too funny!

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      Milton Taylor

      5 years ago

      Sounds like a lot of negativity directed at a company just trying to get their proverbial foot (or golf ball) in the door. The big boys didn’t want a lower-priced ball to get a piece of the market. A market in which the price of golf balls continues to rise. As far as the ball not being tour-level tee to green, well Sir with all due respect..All due respect, you haven’t hit it yet, and second, what exactly does tour-level mean, and how many people does that qualify for. Tour level players get tour-level ball for free. We, on the other hand, have to pay tour-level prices. I don’t mean to be rude, or anything like that, I’m just saying we need someone to shake up the market. Lastly, if there isn’t something to what Kirkland’s doing, why would the big boys care at all. I’ve asked myself that forever…

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      Tom J

      5 years ago

      What is the sidestamp on these new balls? I’ve found and been given dozens of K-Sigs and would like to know which is which without hurting my eyes trying to notice the different dimple patterns.

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      Keith

      5 years ago

      Performance One

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      Hintongolf

      5 years ago

      I’m just waiting patiently for the K-SIG BLADES!

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