Pace of Play: Did COVID-19 Teach Us Anything?
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Pace of Play: Did COVID-19 Teach Us Anything?

Pace of Play: Did COVID-19 Teach Us Anything?

Pace of play is a topic all golfers can agree on. It’s too slow and it’s always someone else’s fault.

COVID-19 provided a unique opportunity to look at the relative effectiveness of one possible pace-of-play solution. Many courses instituted some sort of single-rider cart policy this year. If you want to use a cart, you’re riding solo.

Do single-rider carts speed up pace of play?

Pace of Play: The Dilemma

We’ve written about the pace of play conundrum before. Everyone agrees it’s a problem but no one can agree on how to solve it. Every golfer knows the pain of those 5 1/2-hour weekend marathons as well as facing the  “where the hell have you been?” music when you get home. And who’s to blame for slow play? Every golfer knows the answer: it’s that other sonuvabitch.

Over the past several PGA Merchandise Shows we’ve seen an influx of companies selling single-rider carts, golf surfboards and even golf-specific scooters. Those companies promise an improved pace of play with a dash of fun on the side.

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Because of COVID, we finally have some data. Some is anecdotal while some is hard and undeniable. The data says that, when done properly, single-rider carts do improve pace of play. Dramatically so in some cases.

Case Study No. 1: California Dreamin’

Tagmarshal is one golf technology company that provides golf courses with what amounts to a traffic management system. The company makes it easy for courses to monitor pace of play throughout the day. It also provides analytics showing when, where and why bottlenecks or slowdowns are happening.

Dove Canyon is a private Jack Nicklaus-designed course in Orange County, Calif., and is a cart-only facility (no walkers). Last January through March, before the first round of COVID-19 lockdowns, the average round time was an acceptable four hours. Post-lockdown, single-rider carts were mandated Two things happened.

First, the number of rounds doubled. Second, despite the increasing traffic, the pace of play improved by 15 to 20 minutes.

“These are threesomes and foursomes only,” says Tagmarshal CEO Bodo Seiber. “The pre-COVID results weren’t bad – four hours. But switch to single riding and we have a gain, even though there’s more traffic.”

How much of this improvement is due to single-rider carts and how much is due to Tagmarshal’s monitoring system is an open question. We can put some context to it, however. Tagmarshal has shared data with us in the past showing pace-of-play improvements while the volume of play has remained relatively constant. However, Dove Canyon’s two-fold increase in volume would seem to indicate a significant benefit from single-rider carts.

To get more evidence, we need to travel about 900 miles north to Bend, Ore.

Case Study No. 2: Tetherow Golf Club

Tetherow is a semi-private resort course in Bend, Ore., designed by David McLay Kidd, the creator of Bandon Dunes and the Castle Course at St Andrews. The course has 54 standard two-person carts as well as 20 GolfBoards and 13 Finn scooters.

“Most people see the board or scooter and instantly want to take that over a cart,” says Katie Burnett, Tetherow’s head golf professional. “It obviously helps pace of play in that everyone can drive straight to their own ball.”

Like most other courses, Tetherow went single rider for the season. Their results are even more significant than Dove Canyon’s.

“Last year, our average pace of play was four hours and 30 minutes,” says Burnett. “This year, our average round time has been four hours so we cut at least 30 minutes off our round time.”

That improvement coincided with a dramatic increase in rounds played. In 2019, 13,740 rounds were played at Tetherow. In 2020, that number grew by more than 60 percent to nearly 23,000. Nearly two-thirds of that increase came from members.

“People weren’t going to work or traveling as much so we saw a gigantic increase in member rounds,” says Burnett. “But in Oregon, hiking trails closed, state parks closed. Golf just become the go-to thing to do.”

However…

Tagmarshal offers other examples showing the impact of single-rider carts. Most echo the previous two examples to varying degrees. The worst-case scenarios showed the same or slightly slower round times (no more than seven to eight minutes) despite dramatically higher volumes.

We spoke with other courses that offered more anecdotal feedback. A starter at Red Tail Golf Course in Massachusetts – a top-ranked, $100-per-round facility – told us they saw a noticeable pace-of-play improvement with single-rider carts.

Breakfast Hill in Greenland, N.H., however, saw no improvement. Rounds played were way up but the influx of new golfers combined with a relatively narrow and challenging course stymied any pace-of play-improvements. Our own experience there showed a five-hour weekend round was not uncommon.

Even though that feedback is anecdotal, it comes from staffers who are at those courses all day, every day. It does raise a couple of questions, however. First, what would pace of play have been like at a course such as Breakfast Hill this past year without single-rider carts? Second, how much of a role did Tagmarshal’s course management system play in those courses that saw improvements?

For the first question, it’s reasonable to presume inexperienced golfers in two-rider carts would have made pace of play even worse. The second question, however, is of the chicken-or-the-egg variety.

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The Pace of Play Data Game

The data from Tetherow is pretty straightforward and seemingly hard to dispute. A 61-percent increase in rounds played combined with a 30-minute improvement in pace of play is happy news all around.  Single-rider carts obviously played a role but Tetherow also removed all the bunker rakes and mandated leaving the flagstick in. Another curveball is that, in 2019, members played 49 percent of the rounds. In 2020, due to COVID, members played 60 percent of the rounds.

Also, according to Tagmarshall, when you play and how quickly you play are closely related.

“People play faster in the morning and pace of play tends to deteriorate during the day,” says Tagmarshal COO Graig Kleu. “You can’t play faster than the group in front of you. So, when you have bottlenecks, that slows the field down.”

That little nugget also led Tagmarshal to another conclusion. When pace of play is fast, there’s no need to widen tee-time intervals for social distancing purposes or, for that matter, pace of play purposes.

“If I’m playing faster and the tee-time interval is nine minutes, I’m going to be farther away from the group behind me, purely because I’m playing faster,” says Kleu. “If you add another three minutes to the tee time interval, you’re creating an unnecessary buffer.”

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You may not think an additional three minutes between tee times is that big a deal but doing that for the entire day reduces golf course capacity by 25 percent. Unless greens fees are increased, that cuts revenue by 25 percent.

What’s The Verdict?

Tagmarshal’s data for 2020 is remarkably consistent.

“If we do a year-over-year comparison with our courses that are cart-only, there is a noticeable improvement,” says Kleu.

It’s important to note the Tagmarshal technology itself is designed to improve pace of play. It does that by giving courses hard data on where and when the slowdowns occur. It also helps them make decisions on course setup and on-course player assistance. That brings us back to that chicken-or-the-egg question: how much of the improvement was due to Tagmarshal and how much was due to single-rider carts?

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The Tetherow example may give us the best answer as it has been using Tagmarshal for several years. Nine thousand more rounds played is a remarkable yearly increase for any golf course. Yes, most of those rounds were played by members but to still see your pace of play improve by 30 minutes tells us something more.

Single-rider carts most certainly have an impact.

Now it’s your turn. We’d love to hear about your experiences with single-rider carts this past season. Have you noticed any changes in pace of play? Has an influx of new golfers slowed play at your course or has the single-rider mandate kept pace of play about the same?

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      Mick

      3 years ago

      Single rider carts do speed up the pace of play. The one issue most people do not understand with single rider carts is the damage to the golf course. The wear and tear on the course with the increased cart traffic is significant. If the single rider trend continues you will see the conditions at the golf courses deteriorate over time.

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      W

      3 years ago

      Here in Los Angeles, and I am sure in many other areas of the country that have very crowded Muni tee times – where most of our Munis were at 8 minute intervals – Covid forced distancing and many places went to 10-minute tee times. Did it help with pace? Not by much.
      People also tend to forget – flags aren’t being pulled, and – this is the big one – BUNKERS are not being raked. Lemme tell you how much quicker the round goes for people who don’t rake bunkers. Yup, that’s a major factor in hurrying up the game during Covid.
      So just imagine – when everybody has to go back to raking bunkers and having the choice to pull flags, and tee times become jammed into 8 minute intervals…..
      The downside of the 10 minute Covid tee times is that a lot of places increased their Green Fees for the tee times they lost. Which is a load of crap, because at most they lost may be 3 tee times throughout the whole day – and NOW – the courses are totally booked all the time because they require reservations and no walk-ups allowed around here.

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      David

      3 years ago

      On many occasions before Covid my playing partners and I have requested single carts and if the course wasn’t too busy that day they would allow us to take the four carts. Again, the course has to be fairly clear or full of faster golfers for the strategy to work but when it is then having separate carts absolutely speeds up play even for those of us who diligently try and play as quickly as possible when forced to play two to a cart.

      But pace of play, as many have already noted, is about a lot of little things rather than one singular animal. Leaving the pins in helps a little each hole and that adds up. We used to do it long before the USGA said we could. We weren’t playing in a tournament so we could make our own rules! Also, making it clear to all in the group that there was no such thing as hitting out of turn. If you were ready and your line was clear then hit away. That went for putting or teeing off as well.

      At courses we knew well we all knew if you hit a ball into certain areas it was either lost or unplayable if you did find it so if we hit it into the abyss we just took our drops as close to the point of exit as possible and moved on. If we did search for a ball it was either you on your own or if another player was close they might help but no one was walking clear across the course to search. You got two minutes and let’s go! Heck, if you can’t find it in two minutes you probably won’t find it in ten and you also probably won’t be able to play it if you do. And yes, I can hear some out there now saying, but sometimes Dave…..sometimes is about once in a hundred times and none of us are playing in the final group on Sunday at Augusta.

      Everyone likes to complain but very few do anything about it. I’ve driven around guys who just didn’t give a darn about anyone else but themselves many times. Yep, they ran their mouths but I was on the next green before they even tee’d off on the hole I passed them to play. My uncle taught me early on about how to play well while also maintaining a good pace and it’s not hard. Heck, at this point we’re all high 70 to low 90’s players and can get a foursome through on an average weekend, if we go early, (before 8:30) in 3.5 hours or less. In a twosome of any combination of us we can do it in less than 3.

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      Jeff D

      3 years ago

      I think pace of play has more to do with golfers not playing the proper tees. There are a lot of golfers who play off of ego and not how far they hit the ball. Ask most men and they will say they drive it 300 yards. Take a hundred yards off of that and you may be closer to the truth. I do not know how anyone can think it is “fun” to have hybrids and fairway woods into par 4s…… I really think if people would move up one tee box they would not notice much in score but would enjoy the game more…….. too bad no one has the guts to say to thier group they will be playing the forward tees.

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      Morse

      3 years ago

      Can’t tell you how much I agree with this. My friend and I routinely hit from the white (forward) tees. I don’t have a handicap rating, but I generally shoot between 80 – 84. When I routinely score in the 70’s, I’ll consider moving back. Until then, my skill set doesn’t merit playing way back.

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      David W

      3 years ago

      There is no question that single rider carts were a big speed increase and I hate that they are going away. I hear people say it removes the comradery but you get all of that you need on the green and tee and you can’t always ride straight to your ball due to it’s location in conjunction to the other player’s, so that gives you even more time to talk. With all that being said, it still doesn’t fix the people who just don’t know how or don’t care about speeding up the pace. I see SO MANY people who aren’t ready to hit when it’s their turn, even when they are just a short distance from their playing partners location. I followed one group this year that was playing out of 2 carts in some kind of scramble and there was a guy who would literally sit in the cart until the other 3 hit and then get out, check the distance again, and take his time choosing a club. I was ready to strangle him after 2 holes!! Then you have the ones who don’t understand carts on path. They walk out to their ball, get a distance, walk back to the cart, and then walk back to the ball. And God forbid they don’t decide on a different club (they usually only take one) they then go through their routine and hit it and then make the walk for the 4th or 6th time going back to the cart. Courses desperately need more rangers with the authority (and the guts) to tell them what they are doing wrong.

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      JonathanD

      3 years ago

      Single rider carts sped up our morning foursome by 20 minutes easy. I hate the idea of going back to double rider now.

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      Carlos Rosario

      3 years ago

      Here is my response under 1 minute. Golf is time consuming.I want to play under 4 hours.Accept 5 hours rounds. If you fiinidh in 3.5 or 4 hours,goto club house ,have a couple beers ,support the workers.Don’t drink ? Have a soda and sandwich.Sometimes,post round is more fun than the golf itself.If you don’t have 5 hours ,the rest of us will have a quicker round.

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      ChrisK

      3 years ago

      Ha! it taught me that if i thought play was slow before, i hadn’t seen anything yet! Look, i want the game to grow too because i think it’s a game that has something for everyone, but back during the spring, the onslaught of bad golf on Saturday mornings went crazy! I questioned why i was even a member at the semi-private club i’m currently at! For anyone reading this that is a high-handicap beginning golfer, here’s some words of advice: If you’re bad, WHATEVER YOU DO, play FAST! No one minds bad play if you’re fast, but if you’re slow and play bad, that’s just misery (if you’re a good golfer, your slow play MIGHT be overlooked, but it’s no guarantee!). And i daresay it’s misery to everyone that’s a 15 handicap or better, not just scratch golfers. I know plenty of folks might not agree with me, and that’s fine. Just my two cents’ worth.

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      John

      3 years ago

      I play in a Skins game M,W,F 12-16 guys all single digits. We play fast, 3:30 5somes. The course was flooded with players during Covid. The course told players in the groups in front of us, play fast or else.
      We spread seed, fix ball marks & do what we can to keep the (public) course as nice as possible.. The GM appreciated our efforts enough to give us the same times the rest of the year. Single carts helps not doubt, pins in, no rakes help too. It’s a mindset too, No reason you can’t enjoy your round and move along too. I disagree with the Alcohol generalization. We drink like fish. Doesn’t slow us down…

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      Pitman55

      3 years ago

      Heres my 2 cents..I work as a Marshal on our home course outside of Vegas…Big time wasters I see on the course ..1-The guy who has to take 5 or 6 practice swings on the tee box..2-The guy who is not ready to putt when its his turn….3-Two players in a cart, player #1 is hitting so player #2 watches instead of driving up to his ball and being ready to hit when its his turn…4-The guy who hits a 200 yard drive on a par 5 but waits for the green to clear from 280 out…5- Abuse of alcohol..Some guys are hammered by the time they make the turn..Coordination is shot to hell…

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      P.J.

      3 years ago

      Having played over 100 rounds in 2020 at a variety of courses, let me say that there are no such things as marshal’s at 95% of the courses. Instead, there are course stewards or customer service reps who drive around, only correcting people who drive to close to the green, or want to chat with a group. Almost none of them ask a group that is out of position to speed up pace of play. Almost a decade ago, my home course used to tell people they have 3 holes to get back in position, or they would be moved up – or off the course. Ahhh, the good old days. Courses today won’t risk offending a 4-some, afraid they may not return, instead you’ve made the 12-24 people behind them angry. There are certain courses I won’t play on the weekends because they have 5+ hour rounds.

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      ericsokp

      3 years ago

      So I still don’t understand why golf (especially in carts) is so freakin’ slow. I routinely run marathons (26.2 miles) in under 4 hours, but people can’t play 18 holes (approx. 4 miles) in less time than that? I think a time of 3 hours is more appropriate (which equates to an average of 10 minutes per hole). Perhaps a few less practice swings, hitting/putting when ready and a reduction in the mindless staring at the ball for 45 seconds before swinging would all help. Also, if you barely managed to hit your drive 200 yards on the par 5, you probably aren’t going to hit your second shot 300 yards so you don’t need to wait for the green to clear!

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      Kev

      3 years ago

      Golf isn’t a race. Your comparison is not a good one.

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      Kev

      3 years ago

      Golf is not a race, so your comparison is not valid.

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      Rob

      3 years ago

      I usually try to get on early at courses and tend to golf alone. 2.5 hours is usually a long round for me (sub 2 hours is the norm). I don’t mind playing behind people, but I do get annoyed by people who aren’t ready. I’ve had groups in front of me that take 10-15 minutes on the tee box with nobody in front of them. Then, even as single carts or paired riders,, they all go from one ball to the next, watching that person hit,, etc… You add to that that many of the courses in my area allow 5, 6, or even 7 in a group and you can get some 6 plus hour rounds. I live in honolulu and between the locals who love the large 6-7 person groupings and the tourists who have no problem taking 5 plus hours between their drinks and photos, if I don’t get out early I’d be gone about as long as if I worked that day. Many of our local courses don’t have rangers, or if they do they are just there to socialize with their friends. I haven’t seen anyone’s pace of play change at all. Now that could be just being in a tourist area, but it never changed during the quarantine either.

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      JON

      3 years ago

      Similar strategy of early, weekday golf, 2.5 to 3.25 hours. With COVID weekends have been slow. Biggest saving I see are: direct to ball whether walking or separate carts -with line up-practice second first shot is hit by others and repeat; Flag stays in cup- old days of in-out with flag is 15 min by end or round; three put max if within flag length by 3rd put. Also drives me crazy to see slow leaving and talking on greens and the waiting to hit second shot of over 250 yards. The game will not keep new golfers of ot takes 6 hour to play a round

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      Martin

      3 years ago

      With four single digit players;
      My fastest rounds are generally single rider.
      Next is walking
      Followed by 2 to a cart
      The worse is cart path only

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      Marq

      3 years ago

      If I see that my course is very crowded and it’s cart path only, I’ll either skip playing that day or go out very late when the crowd subsides I walk always and nothing is more torturous than a 5+ hour round walking and waiting on every single shot

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      Joe

      3 years ago

      I’m a little surprised there was no mention of additional wear to the course with single riders. It was a frequent topic at our club and could definitely see the difference in condition this year.

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      Morse

      3 years ago

      I have a pal I normally golf with, and we often use pull carts. Saves time, and saves the back. We play “ready golf”, and play by the, “I’ve hit that ball enough”/ pick up after a double rule. Also, if one of us has hit a stray shot which requires some searching, we’ll let that player drop in the general area and hit, while the other searches for the missing ball. If we find the ball in that time, great. If not, move on. Finally, we checked our egos a long time ago. Nothing slows play like the guy who hits the 125 yard drive far right, then waits for the green to clear 250 yards away, then proceeds to hit a fifty-yard fairy wood. Again, and again, and again…

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      spitfisher

      3 years ago

      set a goal of 3h:45m rounds walking or riding….Problem solved.

      12 minutes a hole, chatt all you want in between shots, keep moving forward

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      Mike

      3 years ago

      That’s great if you have people who can play. But at many courses this year, there’s a ton of people who are new to the game. On my course, with a force of going out every 10 minutes players with minimal skills combined with some poorly designed holes make that 345 target impossible. Another issue we have is that although a public course, weekend prime time rates can reach $120. I’ve had numerous guys tell me for that price, they’re NOT going to be rushed.

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      PuffyC

      3 years ago

      If golfing during COVID has taught me anything it’s that slow play is largely caused by cramming tee times too close together. Once our local course spread them out for social distancing it was nirvana.

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      Tim

      3 years ago

      I play on a private course where walking is allowed and 4 hour rounds are the normal pace of play. We have 620 members who all wanted to play so there was huge demand all summer We went to single carts, flag in, and even went to groups of 5.to get people through. We don’t have a course tracking system although the starter does record everyone’s round times which show up on the system.
      I thought playing in 5’s would be a disaster but it wasn’t. We were playing in 4 hours with a variance of about 10 extra minutes on slow days.
      I feel that single carts is slightly faster than walking, and walking is quicker than two on a cart. Pins in is a huge time saver.

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      cksurfdude

      3 years ago

      Thanks for this article! Now… we can only hope more course owners / operators read it, take it heart and – act on it.

      I’ve long maintained that 2 rider carts are absolutely detrimental to pace of play, and it’s really nice to see a clear, informative article – with real data – corraborating that.

      One thing I’d add w/r/t Tag Marshall – courses that prohibit walking should reconsider that position and give walkers a tracking tag, too.

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      Mike

      3 years ago

      Unfortunately, some courses are just not designed for walking. Hundreds of yards distance between holes. I walk all my rounds but if I played there, absolutely no way I could keep the pace.

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      Carl Bunch

      3 years ago

      My course (El Prado, Chino CA) has 2 courses but they don’t have enough carts to go single-rider for both courses simultaneously, so they went walking-only for 1 course everyday before noon, and it’s been AWESOME.

      When EVERYBODY is walking, nobody can really play too slow or too fast and 3.5 hour rounds are standard.

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      cksurfdude

      3 years ago

      NICE!!! Truly awesome! Wish every course did that……….

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      Keith Brown

      3 years ago

      While I am sure single rider carts have an impact on time, there were/are other restrictions imposed that likely have an impact as well: 1) Pins in at all times and 2) turn-houses closed.

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      Jim

      3 years ago

      I play primarily at a very busy municipal course. I know at my course slow play is definitely NOT caused by players taking too much time replacing divots or fixing ball marks, and there’s essentially no difference in the bunkers without the rakes. Among the annoying time-killers I witness regularly are obliviousness & lack of awareness – being completely unready when it’s their turn, leaving bags/clubs in front of or on the wrong side of the green then walking back and forth after everybody’s holed out, way too much time looking for lost ball, standing on the green to add up & write down scores, we’ve all seen it. One guy every other group doing that several times a round, and you’re at 4:30 or worse the rest of the day. Shared carts are killers because guys figure they paid for ‘em & aren’t going to walk one more foot than they absolutely have to. I’m not a fan if motorized pull carts, either, for similar reason-guys spend more time farting around with them trying to get them right next them like getting a dog to heel instead of “close enough.” Drives me crazy. I would think a tricycle style, single rider cart would be the safest & best option for carts but haven’t seen any.

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      Mike H

      3 years ago

      I agree with Jim on this one. My local course do have the golfboards to use, but they charge and additional $25 dollars to use them. After spending 65 to 80 dollars it can be a deal breaker. Thus I want to use them but don’t think I should pay an additional fee.

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      Brandon

      3 years ago

      Totally agree about the golf boards. A few courses I play have them, and I really want to try them because I love skateboarding and snowboarding, but I’m definitely not going to pay extra to use one.

      Mike

      3 years ago

      Given I live in the Mid-Atlantic area where the grounds are at least damp for good part of the year, what about the “cart paths only” scenario? I always walk, and I’m WAY faster when it’s cart paths only. I actually tend to avoid my course when I see the T-sheet is really crowded and it’s cart path only since I know it’s going to be close to a 5-hour round.

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      PuffyC

      3 years ago

      This so much. You want to kill any chance of golfing in a reasonable amount of time, not to mention having a good round due to the “I got the wrong club” dilemma, play when it’s cart path only. Most of the time we’ll call ahead and if it’s cart path only we won’t play.

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      Art

      3 years ago

      “Has it improved pace of play?” Undoubtedly, as long as you don’t get a 4-some playing in two carts–couples, family members, COVID deniers…. Then pace grinds back to 4:00+ and you have a course full of angry golfers, stacked up like impatient morning commuters behind a car doing 55 in the left lane of the highway with no one in front of them. Does all this portend that expected pace of play will drop to 3:45, or 3:30? What does that do to walkers? (Pushing a cart, I can’t keep a 3:30 pace). Will there be time for the social component of the game? We may loose one of the game’s greatest attributes.

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      Joey

      3 years ago

      The 2 things I see most often that slows everyone down are 1. Lost balls. Do you really need to search for 15 minutes? That penalty stroke isn’t going to kill you. Take a drop and play on already.. And 2. Do you really need to read your putt and then walk to the other side of the hole and then back to your ball and read it again just to leave your 25 foot lag putt 8 feet short and then repeat the process? It takes forever for a 4some to get off the green when all 4 do this.

      I find looking for balls and taking way too long on the greens cause more of a slow down than anything else.

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      Paul

      3 years ago

      I have walked courses in the Florida sun in July. If you liver there you know how tough that can be. I have been able to finish in 4 hours, and have never held up people behind me. I think the game is more enjoyable when walking. Single rider carts is definitely a plus for the game. if given the choice I take walking.

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      Michael Pasvantis

      3 years ago

      I think the most important factor is that single rider golfers spend less time looking for lost balls. They always seem to find them lol #cheatersgonnacheat

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      Rob

      3 years ago

      I broke 90 twice this year under the single rider to a cart pandemic conditions. And feel single rider helped make this happen. I also walked three rounds that provided some much needed solitude and one more where I was paired with a two-some who provided some socially distant conversation. Single rider is both curse and a blessing. Two riders in a cart is better for socializing but I feel single rider let’s you play faster and focus on your game and not be distracted or become a distraction.

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      Jerome

      3 years ago

      I am a walker and when playing with double riders, I always feel I play faster: I just go straight to my ball, even faster/simpler on errand shots – pick your reference point and walk straight. No surprise single riders make rounds faster: just worry about one ball and get there the simplest way.

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      Mark

      3 years ago

      I mainly play society golf which means I’m always playing with different people and pace of play is a topic we are always having to discuss at committee meetings. In my experience people complain about pace of play but they never seem to do any of the little things that make it easy to keep up with the group ahead. I’m a walker and when I first took up golf I was too slow. One of the guys at the society gave me a few tips on how to keep up and now I have no issues. But I also think it’s better if everyone in a group takes responsibility for keeping up with the group ahead and if you take this group approach it’s much easier (too often people just want to blame 1 or 2 individuals in a group)… Examples are if there is a cart rider in a group of walkers, there are many instances where they can scoot ahead and hit while walkers make thier way to thier balls… Dont worry about the order of play…play ready golf and use the groups resources to speed up. Also simple things like being ready to hit once it is your turn (know your yardage, have the right club, know your putting line etc)..Also, once you’ve putted out move to the next green and if possible go ahead and tee off. Also discuss scores (if you are marking a card) at a time where you are having to wait (I. E. When you are up with the group ahead)… Don’t discuss on the tee when you could be teeing off. If you are using a caddie, where possible take what you need for your next shot and go ahead (they have to carry a bag so may not be able to walk as fast as you) e..g take your scope to get your yardage, if you know you are playing a bunker shot take that club, if you know you are putting take the putter. I’d say in summary, it’s not just about the person who stands over his shot for 5 seconds extra or has a slightly longer Pre shot routine (which is what most people seem to focus on)… The vast majority of the time in any round is inbetween shots and if we all do our bit to save time there, round times will come down

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      Mike H

      3 years ago

      Great points Mark. When I play with my buddy we play ready golf and drop each other off at their ball for instance if I am chipping into the green from the left, he will drop me off and I will take a couple of wedges and my putter and then walk to the green afterwards. He will then drive to his ball and chip. We do our best to get in and out under 4.5 hours. This is why I will drive 2 hours to play with my dad at his course because my local course will take 6 hours on the weekend.

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      Ed

      3 years ago

      Golf is slow because of what happens at the ball, not getting to it. Practice swings, excessively reading putts, waiting for your “turn” to hit, looking for lost balls, not stopping conversations to hit, not picking up after double. Once the general golf communities learn these principles, only then will carts make the game even faster.

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      Andrew

      3 years ago

      I play relatively quickly. That being said- there is a social aspect to the game, and that’s being lost in this mechanized, volume game. I also suffer under “hurry-up” conditions, and when my game goes, of course it takes me longer to get through a round. It’s not football or hockey, it’s supposed to be relaxing. Be kind.

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      David

      3 years ago

      Any chance you can look at pace-of-play data from Arccos players? I bet the Arccos folks can look at same-player-same-course pace of play data and get a huge data sample. That would remove all of the specific about tagmarshall or other technology, and with a big enough dataset, you can probably draw some interesting conclusions. 

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      Dwayne

      3 years ago

      The morning guys are experienced and savvy. Even if the skill level varies, they play fast, two to a cart, and even faster one to a cart. This way, they can get done, have a big breakfast, and take a nap.

      In the afternoon, there are golfers who are learning the game . And since COVID hit, there are a lot more of them.

      The skill level varies with them too, but they may not know how to play fast or even realize there is a need to keep a pace of play. They like to have some beers, talk, socialize, relax, listen to music, etc. They like being a cart with someone else, who wants to spend all of that time alone? They are young, they like being with their friends.

      Of course, some of the single rider stuff would appeal to the younger people. But I don’t think it will teach them how to play golf faster.

      That is up to us. We who know have to teach those who don’t. Just like the older golfers did for us when we were learning.

      I think the morning golfers were once the younger afternoon golfers. Its the circle of life.

      Granted, there are still some older golfers who missed out on the learning part….

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      Mat

      3 years ago

      The single biggest help with pace is limiting the number of shots. When you miss your double-bogey, take a triple and move on.

      The US data is always borked because most of the world plays Stableford, and everyone in the US is playing Stroke because that’s what they see on TV, and because most players in the US aren’t club-affiliated or indexed.

      You don’t get bottlenecks if you can’t take more than 7 shots a hole on a par 5.

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      Andrew Han

      3 years ago

      Unless you’re playing for strokes.

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      Simms

      3 years ago

      During the Covid pandemic single rider carts has been a very good thing (until two weeks ago when our local public course added the new $10 fee for single riders and another one near us went to an extra $15) Knowing how close public courses are to making it or not there really is no future for single rider carts when the Pandemic is under control…..still have to believe playing the right tee box, playing your own ball when ready (not waiting while the other 3 guys in the 4 some can watch you hit ) and being ready to putt when walk unto the green is the only way to speed up play…Want to make it a three hour game, make every green a two putt and pick upl.

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      Six 8 Pete

      3 years ago

      I’d be curious to see what the increase in Round + Cart fees will be due to more carts in use if everyone goes to single rider.
      I like to walk as much as I can, I go straight to my ball and I play ‘ready’ golf.
      I also like the social feeling of walking instead of only one or two players per cart speeding down the fairway.

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      Alex

      3 years ago

      I’d be curious if folks playing from the correct tees speeds up play.. If I play tees too long, it is likely I am swinging too hard, missing more fairways, greens.

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      Mike

      3 years ago

      At my course (high-end public), playing the wrong tees is one of the 3 reasons for slow play. Think about it. If you drive the ball 200 yards & your best second shot is 180, if a number of the par 4’s are 400+ yds, do the math. You’ll never reaching any of them in regulation, which means extra time to take extra shots. I’ve seen it hundreds of times, people playing 1, sometimes 2 tees longer than they should.

      BTW, The other 2 reasons I see for slow play (at least on my course) is: 1) poor course design (i.e..you have to wait for someone to walk back from the green to their cart directly in your line of fire,. & 2) some folks just can’t play. If you can’t break 120 you should be practicing a hell of a lot more & if you do come out to the course, come very late & learn etiquette, like waving people through.

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      TonyG

      3 years ago

      Let’s get one thing out of the way – walkers will never be as fast as cart riders. That said, as an avid walker, I hope walking the golf course never goes away. Having spent years in the golf business, I can tell you there are two major barriers to fast play; lost balls and golfers riding together to each shot. Single rider carts and walking should solve the latter but only good marshaling will help with lost balls and keep play moving. Until Golf Course Managers wake up and train “Player Assistants” slow play will always be a problem.
      How about you make that a study. Send me to a club to train staff and lets see how pace of play improves!

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      alex

      3 years ago

      Yup. Unless it is given as part of the green fees, I walk until the temperature is too high. For weekend rounds, I don’t play faster in the cart. A cart does help on weekday rounds.

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      Ron

      3 years ago

      We noticed it by 30 minutes per round also I think leaving the flag in Helpful speed up the game We are not playing for Millions. I hate the players who think the are playing at the masters. It a fun game maybe for a drink. Also the comment about tee times I think was a red hearing I could see it if every day was full. If you have open tee times then your losing money anyway

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      B.Boston

      3 years ago

      Biggest benefit to me this year was being able to walk. I felt like most rounds worked out well and even walking there were times we were waiting for the group in front of me.

      Also, I can see single rider carts speeding things up even more than allowing walking, since we all go directly to our balls, but it DOESN’T work when you throw in a cart path only rule. If you’re going to be cart path only, you might as well let me walk. I have a knack for placing my ball on the opposite end of the fairway!

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      Peter

      3 years ago

      I’m usually a walker who gets put with other people on carts. I never have an issue keeping up with the others.
      The biggest issue I have come across at the local course is that they have a shortage of carts mid-day so they have to wait for carts to come back in before they can let the next round out. There have been times where the course is running 30-60 minutes behind schedule for this one reason. At courses that aren’t short on carts, things seem to be fine.
      It is definitely fast to have 4 carts or 4 walkers but when you have 2 person carts, you can see the difference, especially when the players are not as good or are having a bad round.

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      Jeff

      3 years ago

      In my Sunday morning group of 4 walkers, we routinely get around 18 holes (6300 yards) in 4 hours. Tee off at 6:50 am….walking off 18 green routinely around 10:45-11:00 like clock work.

      HUGE benefit of singles being able to go directly to their ball and hit it rather than zig-zagging with your cart mate up the fairway.

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