The Future of Adams Golf Isn’t What You Probably Think
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The Future of Adams Golf Isn’t What You Probably Think

The Future of Adams Golf Isn’t What You Probably Think

Written By: Tony Covey

What does the future hold for Adams Golf?

Now that Adams HQ has been closed what will TaylorMade do with the brand? Will Adams continue to do what it does from TaylorMade’s home base in Carlsbad? Is it destined to become a brand exclusively for old men and hackers, or will TaylorMade effectively kill off the brand entirely?

After nearly 3 years, real answers are finally starting to emerge.

3 Years in Limbo

It’s been nearly 3 years since TaylorMade acquired the Adams Golf Company. While many predicted TaylorMade would eventually destroy the brand, that hasn’t happened yet…not totally anyway. Nevertheless it has been a period of great uncertainty with golfers, and likely those inside the company as well, unsure of where Adams fits in the larger picture.

Given former TaylorMade CEO Mark King’s statements at time of purchase, it has come as no surprise that as Adams worked through its product pipeline, we’ve seen a gradual but undeniable shift in the scope of Adams’ offerings. Most apparent in its iron offerings, the company no longer offers the proverbial something for everyone.

From day one of the acquisition, the suggestion was that TaylorMade would focus its offerings exclusively on better golfers (a story no one actually believed), while Adams would be positioned for the average golfer and senior players.

The problem with that strategy is that, in the context of the golfing population and the marketplace, TaylorMade’s claimed wheelhouse, the 0-4 handicap demographic, is basically non-existent. It’s the extreme edge of the bell curve. It’s not a money-maker. In the real word where success is measured in dollars, and TaylorMade’s marketing targets everyone and anyone with money to spend on golf clubs, the two brands have remained direct competitors.

When it comes to absolute marketshare, that’s not all bad. In a year where TaylorMade’s numbers are off, the overlap in product means that the larger TMaG empire can still lay claim to 1 of every 2 metalwoods, and 1 of every 3 iron sets sold.

The consequence, however, according to TaylorMade’s new(ish) CEO, Ben Sharpe, is that lack of differentiation between brands has “caused confusion on the part of the consumer between what is TaylorMade, what is Adams, and what’s the difference”.

That’s about to change.

A CLEAR PATH FORWARD

On the heels of the shutdown of Adams headquarters; arguably for the first time since the acquisition, there is a real, and potentially viable, plan to actually differentiate the two brands, and the dividing line isn’t drawn where you likely think it is.

While Sharpe doesn’t shy away from the fact that there are clear savings associated with closing Adams headquarters, the biggest benefit of moving the Adams team to Carlsbad is realized through closer cooperation between product teams.

“If the Adams guys are speaking to the TaylorMade guys then we’re making sure we’re offing a complimentary position rather than a conflicting position”. – Ben Sharpe, CEO, TaylorMade-adidas Golf

During his first 100 days in office Mr. Sharpe asked lots of questions. Among those was one he posed to the employees of the TaylorMade Golf Company:

“Why do you love the game of golf?”

As you might imagine, the answers were wide-ranging. Some talked about hitting the perfect shot. Others talked about time spent with family and friends. For Sharpe, they key takeway was that it’s both possible, and reasonable to divide golfers into two groups.

“There are people who want to compete and there are people who just want to play”. – Ben Sharpe, CEO, TaylorMade-adidas Golf Company

Think about that. Some golfers compete. Others just want to play.

Play. As in have fun, enjoy yourself, and don’t get worked up about the number you write down…if you even write a number down at all.

Can you see where this is going?

TaylorMade will offer what I suppose you could call mainstream products for the competitive golfer. It will continue to innovate and compete with Callaway, Titleist, PING and others. Adams will be positioned in a space that Sharpe describes as more fun, friendly, and inviting for golfers who just want to go out and play.

Play.

That’s fairly open-ended, and I suspect we’ll have a clearer picture of what that actually means when the next generation of Adams products is announced, but what I believe we’re talking about is a strategy that focuses almost exclusively on the recreational golfer.

We’re talking about a brand, not for the highly competitive golfer, not for those of us with a standing two dollar Nassau, almost certainly not for those of you who play by the absolute letter of the USGA’s rulebook, but rather for the guy simply looking to have a good time on the golf course.

Could that actually work?

Given the undeniable role the PGA Tour plays in retail success, I’m far from certain that it’s possible to be successful with what will likely be a recreational line with almost no Tour exposure. The Adams hybrid legacy is likely to continue on tour, but that’s almost certainly the full extent of it.

I could argue that the recreational golfer likely represents the majority. I could also point out that as group, the purely recreational crowd isn’t currently being specifically targeted by any major OEM.

I could just as easily argue that it doesn’t need to be.

Unless we’re talking about non-conforming, something clearly distinct from what’s already on the shelf, or at an absolute minimum, something significantly cheaper than offerings from competitors, do the wants and needs of recreational golfers really differ from the rest of us?

We’ll find out soon enough.

Adams as a Vehicle for Growth

I’d wager the plan for Adams is directly tied-in to something else Sharpe and I spoke about during our 30 minute conversation; his belief that the best way to grow golf is through positivity.

If you consider what’s being discussed in the various grow golf circles, including TaylorMade’s own Hack Golf initiative, much of the focus is on fixing things that are perceived to be broken with golf.

  • Golf is too expensive.
  • Golf is too hard, we need to make the holes bigger.
  • Golf takes too long, we need shorter courses, faster play, and the option to play fewer holes.

Sharpe doesn’t think that’s the best approach. To grow the sport, those with a vested interest in doing so should be talking about what’s great about golf rather than focusing on what’s wrong.

Could the Adams brand be used as a vehicle for growth? Maybe I’m reading a bit too much between the lines, but some of what Sharpe told me certainly suggests that possibility.

“Adams can be a lot more than just another golf equipment brand. It can represent a movement about trying to bring excitement, fun, and entertainment into the game. It can, if we get it right, go beyond just products”. – Ben Sharpe, CEO, TaylorMade-adidas Golf

It almost sounds like HackGolf 2.0, presumably without the gimmicks.

The End of Adams

No doubt fans of the brand will see this new strategy, whatever it proves to be, as the nail that seals the Adams coffin. To an extent that may be a fair appraisal. The new positioning comes with an implicit non-compete clause with TaylorMade. For those holding their breath for the next great Adams club for the better player, it’s time to exhale and move on.

Adams will never again be the Adams that so many of us loved. That much is certain.

Maybe I’m overly optimistic, possibly even delusional, but if the new Adams is able to offer something new, unique, and most importantly useful to the recreational golfer, maybe Adams fans can find some solace in talking about what Adams is instead of lamenting what it once was.

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      Gerry Teigrob

      4 years ago

      I have a couple of Z-spin wedges. Otherwise I’m all about Adams Golf and Cobra Golf. At one point, I figured Rocketbladez and Speedblades were the next best thing…my thinking on that TayloeMade has become too big for its britches. So where TM thought they would win me over with their M1 to M6 irons, I’m not on that bandwagon. The days of infusing Adams Golf into the TM brand are gone, and unless TM re-introduces the Adams Golf line of clubs again, those classic Adams Redlines will never be matched! When it comes to game improvement irons, Cobra is where those clubs are at! To me it’s a no-brainer! Unless Adams Golf comes out of retirement as a name brand, don’t expect me to fawn and go all googly eyed over the inferior Tam product!

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      Gerry Teigrob

      4 years ago

      I have a couple of Z-spin wedges. Otherwise I’m all about Adams Golf and Cobra Golf. At one point, I figured Rocketbladez and Speedblades were the next best thing…my thinking on that

      Reply

      Elmore Frank Brown Jr

      8 years ago

      I did bought me a Adams speedline golf set clubs. Will they still making it? Will I be able to use the clubs?

      Reply

      Justin Taylor

      9 years ago

      I first started playing golf 3 and a half years ago with a set of A7s and currently bag a set of redlines. My brother and father had a2’s for years . Dad now plays redlines after trying mine and my brother now plays a post TM Adams set of super s irons. The super s irons are awesome though do feel different to any previous adams irons we have ever owned. They did take some getting used to, particularly in the hybrids and he 2nd guessed his descision for awhile but now absolutely loves them and hits them very well.
      My point is that Adams will never again be the Adams of old as it’s not Adams now but TM in reality but if TM produce a golf club and brand it with an Adams logo it will still be a golf club worthy of trying just as all well established manufacturers are. It may take a little time to get used to but all new clubs generally do and they all perform similarly.
      Adams is gone and never will return as a stand alone golf manufacturer and that’s ashame but our shared memories of swinging those clubs together will last forever and in 20 years I will look back with over exaggerated nostalgic sentimentality and I will talk about the old adams clubs we used to hit and how they no longer exist and how awesome they were.
      In reality TM bought adams for their technology and adams signed their death certificate for a price they were happy with. That’s their right and their call. It won’t take my fond memories away regarding that little fish of a company that pushed the boundaries and I will keep playing my redlines because they are fantastic. At some stage I will change them and will enjoy the next ones just as much but I will always have a special place for Adams golf that can never be sold or erased. Thanks Adams Golf

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      Lester Tennant

      9 years ago

      The XTD A Tour Irons just hit the market but not their website. A west coast distributer is selling them on EBay and through Wal-Mart for a fraction of their planned retail cost. This is driving down the price on their other clubs, especially the rest of the XTD line. Why any company would do this to their new top of the line irons is a mystery to me. Just the iomic grips and the KBS tour shafts have a retail value equal to what they are selling the clubs for. The author may have it right. Perhaps TM does not want Adams competing with them at the high end of the market. This does not bode well for the future of the entire XTD line.

      Reply

      muscleback

      9 years ago

      I’ve always found golf to be an easy to understand, enjoyable game…I have been playing for 60 years…I am a 7cap at present…as low as a 4 at one time…I honestly don’t get what all the fuss is about…develop a swing…find some clubs you can hit…practice…and have some fun. Did I mention practice?

      Reply

      andrew

      9 years ago

      say goodbye to the outside of the box innovation my beloved Adams was known for.

      Reply

      Bill Tetley

      9 years ago

      Adams will 100% cease to exist. The Taylormade brand is what matters. Taylormade won’t take time and money away from Taylormade products to make compelling Adams products.

      Reply

      Darren

      9 years ago

      Blind fredy could see what taylormades intentions were with Adams.

      I went to the Orlando PGA show 3 years ago on the trade only demo day Adams was in the top two of traffic all day. They were an emerging brand to be reckond with down the track.

      Taylormade were always going to burry Adams just as they have done with Ashworth. 70mil to take out a competitor that could turn into another Callaway, ping or Taylormade is a bargain!

      I just wish the competition watch dogs could see it it, competition is good for consumers and drives innovation, sadly innovation is diminishing in golf!

      Reply

      DaveMac

      9 years ago

      Adams is already dead, Taylormade has killed it but they just haven’t had the funeral yet. Just look at the lame logo, the limited product range and no drivers at all for 2015.
      Within two years the only Adams reference will be on Taylormade rescues, which will have a incorporating Adams hybrid technology logo on the bottom.
      This was always going to be the outcome of this acquisition.

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      AWOL

      9 years ago

      As sad as it may be i would have to agree. I think Adams last good “hoo-rah” was the a12 and a12os. I played them for a year and i find it funny how Callaway is charging over a 1k for a set of irons that are essentially the same that the a12os was but for only $399 or whatever the price was, i know they weren’t over $600. Adams were very long and felt great including the a12pro, anyways i think thats what they were called. Too bad but that is true the only thing that comes out of a merger or buyout is one company, that’s why they call it a merger or a buyout and not a partnership. You would never see Taylormade-Adams logo on one club like a marriage whose bride is fond of her maiden name.

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      mark

      9 years ago

      man all that crap is made in china. i use too work at that adams golf in plano. they hire employees that has no paper and majority of them don’t even speak english and not only they underpay them.

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      Gary

      9 years ago

      I knew Barney Adams and Dave Pelz back in the day when they were each beginning to make a name for themselves in Abilene, Texas (anyone remember the FeatherLite clubs?). If Barney is still associated with Adams Clubs, their days are not over. He is a survivor.

      Reply

      AWOL

      9 years ago

      Well…for 70 million the days are over

      Reply

      Bullwinkle Moose

      9 years ago

      I know I’m in the minority but I used to be a customer of Adams and Taylor Made. Since Taylor Made purchased Adams, and clearly intended to run the name into the ground, I have purchased neither. There is no rational reason for actions, one lone idiot isn’t going to bother Taylor Made. Of course should there be a lot of old time Adam’s supporters we might eventually cost them a dollar or two.

      Adams Golf was great innovator and might have grown while others were collapsing because they has such small sales (respectively) to start with. I (3rd partied) sold a lot of Adams products, now I do the same thing for Callaway primarily because of Chip Brewer (Previous Adams CEO). The difference is I really liked Adams Products, now I just want Taylor Made to suffer. Like I said the lone nut……………..

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      gunmetal

      9 years ago

      Sounds like every Hack Golf location will be outfitted with nonconforming Adams clubs and for all intents and purposes the soon to be extinct line of Yes putters (oooh that hurts my heart a little – I loved Yes).

      However you slice it, TM IS IN FACT KILLING the Adams as we once knew and appreciated.

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      Gary

      9 years ago

      Tony: I just want to thank you for your honesty and frankness in your discussions. The golf industry has evolved tremendously over the past 40 years that I’ve been in…sometimes good, many times horrible. But it will survive! Now if we can only get the “big shots” in golf to start acting pro-actively rather than re-actively to rebuild the industry. Again, always great to read your commentary

      Reply

      Berniez40

      9 years ago

      Sorry, I was so worked up, I forgot to proof read it…..Love me some Adams Golf Clubs.

      Reply

      Berniez40

      9 years ago

      I think it’s a brilliant market play if handled correctly. Those of us with longer memories might recall that Adams was once on the verge of Bankruptcy because their revolutionary fairway wood had played out its 15 minutes of fame, and their other offerings were rather mediocre looking when placed up up against the likes of Ping, Callaway, and TM. THen they did something brilliant—“They Marketed to”….. —WAIT FOR IT—-“The average golfer.”—Does not anyone else here remember how revolutionary that first set of Adams Idea Irons were. Hell all the big boys at the time, and even the high dollar hoity toity dudes down at Hogan Golf just about sh!t their pants when the Adams Idea Irons hit the shelves—and they were only $299 a set!!!! Pretty soon–everyone was copying them. It was a set of Adams Idea irons–with those new fangle “I-Woods” as they were called at the time, that saved my game. —Pretty soon everyone was copying them. Adams had indeed evolved, and they did it by marketing to Joe Blow Weekend Warrior.

      Meanwhile, that other fairway wood company, Orlimar, could kept building quality product, but there was nothing revolutionary about it. Adams evolved and survived, Orlimar did not. One lived to talk about it, and the other did not. I hope to G*d Taylormade studies there club history and learns from this. After all, Adams arguably beat TM to the Rocketballz Technology Punch—who knows what else lurks on some deep dark secret drawing boards.

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      Bob Pegram

      9 years ago

      What happened to Orlimar was something else entirely. The Ortiz’s (the owners) had an IPO planned and were selling product well. A week before the IPO Eli Callaway filed a frivolous lawsuit to destroy Orlimar’s IPO. Callaway was a jerk. That lawsuit destroyed Orlimar because it killed the IPO.

      Eli Callaway did equally evil stuff to another smaller (than Callaway) company, La Jolla Golf. He lied about them throughout the industry and destroyed them too. Callaway didn’t compete fairly. I currently use an old La Jolla driver head. It works and looks great.

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      Fifteen Clubs

      9 years ago

      So you sell a product for more than twice what you paid for it and you think the margin is somehow less than 50%??? Smh.

      Reply

      Mark

      9 years ago

      the point is that they’re not selling it for more than twice, unless the laws of math have changed and 4 X 2 = <7.5. I'm scratching my head 15 clubs.

      Reply

      J

      9 years ago

      I think TM has already gotten there dollars worth from Adams. I figure they bought Adams due to a legal dispute regarding the slot tech a few years back, it was cheaper to buy them than to lose a lawsuit. This also gave them access to some of the most extensive R&D in the industry. They have gutted Adams, and now anything they get from the company is a bonus, and if that means using it as a recycling ground for last year’s clubhead or as an experimental wing of the company then so be it. Personally I was, and am still hoping for TM to use adams as the experimental wing, the skunk works so to speak. Lead with adams, refine with TM. Get innovation to the public 1st, even if it’s a bit raw. Admittadly I am and have been an adams fan and I would hate to see the company relegated to insignificance.

      Reply

      Mozgolf

      9 years ago

      Offerings looking stale already. Am off looking at Cobra for value for money replacement when I get tired of my no old a7’s!

      Reply

      Georges P.

      9 years ago

      Isn’t this what Wilson tried to achieve in the ’90s-2000s : make golf easier (FatShaft), make it funnier for the average golfer, get away from the Tour, coming out with cheaper products. Almost killed the brand, recovery taking forever.

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      AWOL

      9 years ago

      It would be interesting to see a mainstream-ish company offer clubs just for the large majority that just want to have fun…aka non-conforming clubs. Why the hell not!?!? They dont want to be reduce to a company that just sells everything in the box sets, like the ones you’d find at a Big 5 or walmart. If anything has held back innovation in the game of golf its all these stupid equipment rules that the R&A and USGA have set. I wonder sometimes where they came up with numbers like club head size, groove shapes, anchored putters and COR limits. Those numbers seem as random as any. So why not try to establish a new genre of awesome non-conforming clubs so that a player with a 90mph swing could actually tee up from the pro tees and get to enjoy the views that the pros get. Why not!!! Let people have two sets one for when they are in a tourney and one when they just want to crush it and have fun.

      Reply

      javier

      9 years ago

      Didn’t tmag and calloway just introduce a non-conforming set this year at the PGA show? Or was that wishfull thinking?

      Reply

      obo

      9 years ago

      That last comment is like someone just walked across my line with metal spikes.

      Reply

      Fifteen Clubs

      9 years ago

      Steve P,

      Cost to produce (let’s say $4).
      Wholesale selling price (let’s say $7.50).
      That’s a profit margin of 87.5% partner.
      Tell Nike I’m available for CEO when they need me…

      Reply

      Mark

      9 years ago

      hey partner – it’s a 47% profit margin – 3.50/7.50 = .4667

      Reply

      AWOL

      9 years ago

      Here let me help both of you. To figure gross profit margin there is actually a specific formula. Its not as simple Mark as dividing cost by revenue. You take the selling price of 7.50 minus cost gives you 4.00 then you take your gross profit divide that by over all revenue generated so 4.00/7.50 and you get 53.3% gross profit margin. Hope this helps.

      Mark

      9 years ago

      AWOL – thanks, and I’m not trying to be obnoxious, but the selling price (7.5) – cost (4) = 3.5, then divided by revenue (7.5) = 47%. I just skipped the explanation and went straight to the formula that you accurately described above. I have no idea why I commented in the first place, I guess I just found his response to Steve P. somewhat funny. Happy Holidays all – stay tuned to mygolfspy to shave strokes in 2015!

      AWOL

      9 years ago

      No problem Mark there seemed to a universal misunderstanding on how to calculate or determine profit margins. I have had to do a ton of this when in college especially in my community pharmacy class. I however figured the cost @$3.50 not at $4.00 so in a way we are both correct if it is $3.50 then the profit is 53% and at $4.00 you are correct at 47%. Some people are also confusing price mark-up percentage with profit margin i noticed as well. Anyways its all trivial. Happy Holidays fellow golfers and bloggers.

      Nathan

      9 years ago

      ^That’s why im extremely happy for having golfnow around. I can’t afford much at all anymore so if I can play for $10 or $15 I’m all for it. Always have fun so idc what the golfnow haters say!

      Reply

      RON

      9 years ago

      Green fees should should be no more than 30 bucks fr a round of golf and I dont care where you play , thats what sucks abt this game charging 65 dollar fees eliminates 80 percent of the population just so these rich Aholes can have the courses to themselves.They think by charging those high prices their going to make money when in reality their losing money and deservely so the should. This game will never EVER grow because its a rich mans game period. Now their charging a thousand bucks fr a set of irons that costs the manufacturer 5 bucks a head to make, welcome to the greedy world we live in.

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      jbil8802

      9 years ago

      I don’t see golf as a rich man’s game at all. I know plenty of guys that don’t make much money and still have no trouble playing golf. You can choose to invest however much money you can/want into your game. I play decent courses all the time for anywhere from $20-$50. I don’t think I’ve spent over $50 once this year. It’s no different than any other hobby whether it be cars, hunting, fishing or whatever. The game won’t grow not because it’s a rich man’s game but because the younger generations are much more inclined to want instant gratification. “You mean I have to work hard to get my game to the point that I want it to? I can’t just be instantly amazing? That’s crazy.” And then there’s the whiners that complain about it “being too hard” and “the hole being too small” and it “taking too long to play a round.” I think the pussification of America is a factor.

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      Large chris

      9 years ago

      And inspire of all this strategising, no OEM seems to realise that the problem is……

      Lack of juniors.

      How about using the Adams brand to get cheap sets into schools, put some sponsor flags up at some driving ranges, run nationwide junior group taster sessions with a free cap for all the kids.

      Get them young, watch em spend dollars on your brand in a few years time. Not rocket science. And not gonna happen. Big business only cares about the next quarter.

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      eric

      9 years ago

      that’s such an excellent point. i have no clue how much this would cost but i think the idea is worth merit: what is stopping adams from partnering/sponsoring driving ranges? it seems to me that if a mid to high handicapper went to his local range and saw adams branding all over that would plant a seed. same with, as you pointed out, sponsoring youth tournaments and events.

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      TheHacker

      9 years ago

      Indeed they should bring the fun back to golf. Golf has been too hard for most. For some of us, it’s because golf is hard, that’s what attracted us to the game… guess we are suckers for some punishment.

      But for the newer generation of golfs, who are so used to instant gratifications in everything, golf is just way too hard. If one can’t hit the ball and send it flying within the first golf range sessions, that guy is probably not coming back. Most people want to be able to just hit the ball around, get on the course and have fun.

      So by all means bring back the fun of recreational golf. Otherwise golf as a hobby, and the industry… might just die and we may not see golf being played much in the next generation.

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      Kenny B

      9 years ago

      If I were one of the Adams pros; Els, Perry, Langer, or Watson, I would be jumping ship as fast as I could. What a way to ruin your professional reputation!

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      markb

      9 years ago

      Good point — but Adams might be the only one who wants them because Seniors don’t move merchandise, except maybe to other seniors. And that has what Adams has banked on for the last couple of years. Els aged out of Callaway. If your organ grinder stops cranking, monkey gotta dance where ever he hears the music.

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      Wish I was

      9 years ago

      Two of the most accomplished golfers in modern times jumped ship to chase the money (Woods and Mickelson). As long as TM keeps paying Els, Perry, Langer, and Watson, I doubt they’ll be too cerncened about their professional reputations.

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      Markb

      9 years ago

      Is there money to be made producing stuff for Golfers who want to have fun? Hell, yes there is.

      Case in point – the Mojo golf ball. Most serious golfers disdain the Mojo. It’s Nike’s crap ball, the Swooshy Rock-Flite. But Nike sells a TON of them. I’m a ball hawk and based by what I find on courses, it’s the third most frequently sold (and lost) ball out there. So what if it is clicky crap that sells for under $20 per dozen if it only costs you 25 cents a ball to make and its trippy packaging gets you to pick up the box instead of a box of Intechs, Wilsons, or Top-Flites! If I am Nike, I take that action all day long.

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      Steve P

      9 years ago

      “under $20 per dozen” ?

      Uh, try under $20 for TWO DOZEN. Yeah, I’m sure Nike’s doing cartwheels after every order they get for Mojo balls. (sarc)

      TM didn’t spend $70 million on Adams to sell the lowest end stuff in golf.
      BUT, they have already F-ed up the brand beyond repair, and that’s what they’ll end up having to do with Adams.
      It’ll be nothing but $199 complete sets and 19.95 putters before too long.

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      markb

      9 years ago

      If a dozen balls costs them less than $3-$4 to make, they’re still doing cartwheels. The margin per unit sold might still be 75% whereas the margin on a Vapor driver after promotions and give back credits might be less than 10%. Considering the relative investment in R&D for the two products, which is the more attractive product? I’d rather be the Mojo brand manager.

      Steve P

      9 years ago

      Tell me, how does a ball that RETAILS for $10 per dozen, and that COSTS Nike 3 to 4 dollars to make, in turn provide NIKE margins of 75% when WHOLESALED for $7.50 per dozen? If you can explain that, you should be Nike’s CEO.

      Greg

      9 years ago

      This stinks. (Hugs his a12 pro irons)

      Reply

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