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Tommy Armour 845 Irons

Nostalgia can make people more optimistic and inspired about the future. That’s not the exact tagline for the revamped Tommy Armour 845 Forged irons. However, it’s a reasonable summary of the motivation behind the re-launch of one of the most iconic iron models in recent golf history.

It seems nearly every golfer has a story involving the original Tommy Armour Silver Scot 845s. But that’s to be expected when you sell 660,000 sets over a seven-year period. From throwback jerseys to classic golf saddle shoes and a stick shift, the days of yesteryear often seem better. At least the pieces of it we choose to remember.

Melding a classic design with modern technology sounds like a great idea. On paper, it makes a lot of sense. There’s an easy marketing story to tell and because everyone has personal experience and history, the company can tell a single story that applies to each consumer a little differently.

That said, there’s a reason movie sequels rarely live up to the standard set by the original. Those who endured all 138 painful minutes of Caddyshack 2 need no reminder.

Keeping with the Tinseltown theme, Tommy Armour believes the 2020 version of the 845 iron lineup is poised to be more “The Godfather: Part 2” and less “Dumb and Dumberer.”

Let’s see.

Tommy Armour 845 Forged

The Tommy Armour 845 line for 2020 features a driver, fairway, and hybrid alongside three sets of irons and a series of milled putters. We’ll get to everything else but because of what the first 845 irons meant to golf’s equipment landscape, it’s fair to give them a more focused spotlight.

The 845 Forged ($999 for a set of eight) sits squarely in the Players’ Distance iron category. This is a sensible choice, given it stays true to the DNA of the original 845s. Also, as timing would have it, it’s arguably the hottest iron category in the market. Tommy Armour could have gone with a more traditional single-piece forged CB/MB but the 845 Forged is already a niche release and DICK’s didn’t want to further limit the target market.

845 Forged construction

In the vein of other Players’ Distance irons, the Tommy Armour 845 Forged irons feature a multi-material construction. The body is forged from 1025 soft carbon steel which is attached to a high-strength HT1770 steel L-Cup face.

If the HT1770 material name rings a bell, it’s the same specialized steel PXG uses in its 0211 irons as well as in several of the 0311 models. Additionally, XXIO selected it as the face material in its current “X” series irons.

Achieving the distance part of a Players’ Distance iron formulation almost invariably involves a thin, high-strength face material. The only real downside to low-weight materials with high ductility is the cost.

The concept of a Cup Face isn’t unique. Essentially, with multi-material irons, there are two options for face construction. The first is a face insert that sits inside the perimeter of the face and is welded (or in some cases brazed) to the body. The second is some iteration of a cup face. A cup face by any description has a lip that extends beyond the blunt part of the face and conjoins the crown or the sole. The benefit of an L-Cup is that the architecture allows the face to act a bit like a hinge, retaining more speed (and higher launch) on thin shots.

Stripping away names and logos, equipment design boils down to materials and construction. The same ingredients don’t necessarily guarantee the same cake. That said, one way to establish brand credibility is by temporarily removing external packaging to focus on the characteristics that directly impact performance.

If you’re trying to pull the, “I can get a hell of a good look at a T-bone steak…” line from Tommy Boy, it’s roughly the same concept.

In this case, all roads lead to Performax. It’s the product design and manufacturing facility that works with a number of popular (and higher-priced) JDM brands: Ryoma, PRGR, OnOff, and Yamaha among others. It’s also the partner of choice for Tour Edge and Tommy Armour.

The people and companies responsible for actually designing and producing the equipment are vital information for consumers.

The problem is that unless it’s well known or can bolster the story for an OEM, there’s little incentive to disclose it.

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Geometry and specifications

A thin topline, minimal offset and overall compact geometry give the 845 Forged the requisite looks of a players’ distance iron. As for the forged part? Well, that’s an interesting one.

Most consumers hear forged and likely assume it’s referring to the part of the club making contact with the ball. That’s true with single-piece forged irons like traditional muscle-backs.  However, when dealing with multiple pieces, sometimes the face is forged (Mizuno HMB) and other times it’s the body (Tommy Armour 845, Callaway Apex Forged).

Because sound (which determines feel) is a function of materials, design, geometry and the various other components of the club (shafts, internal gooey elastomers, urethane microspheres and such), OEMs employ a variety of methods to achieve similar goals.

A small bucket of swings indoors in the middle of winter is a limited sample size, no doubt. However, the 845 Forged seemed to punch a bit above its weight though, as always, Most Wanted testing will have the final say.

Some of you will note the strong loft (43°) of the pitching wedge. My initial response is, “Yeah, so what? Get over it.” Which I get, is entirely unhelpful.

The more calculated reply is that static loft doesn’t matter nearly as much as dynamic loft (the amount of loft presented to the ball at impact). Most amateurs add loft at impact and require the assistance of low CG designs to promote higher initial launch. Lower lofts are necessary to combat these two realities.

If that explanation isn’t satisfactory, consider that golfers can carry a maximum of 14 clubs. Other than the driver, each should reasonably travel within 12 to 15 yards of the next club. Therefore, of what consequence is it whether a 43° pitching wedge is your 125-yard club or a 42° nine-iron? I understand OEMs are keen to play to the ego but that aside, it’s a futile conversation.

Tommy Armour 845 and 845 Max

DICK’s understands the challenge ahead and whatever inroads it can make in the opportunity gap of 2020 will be on the heels of the more moderately priced Tommy Armour 845 (no suffix) and 845 Max irons. At $499 (set of seven clubs), the target golfer is the mid- to high-handicap player who places value ahead of major-label brand names.

As such, the tech story is simple and straightforward.

The standard Tommy Armour 845 model is cast from 431 stainless steel. The two-piece design leverages a thin L-Cup face and VFT (variable face thickness) technology alongside a hollow body. Tungsten weighting shoves the CG low/rear to boost MOI (forgiveness) and help increase launch.

The 845 Max is basically the standard 845 with a wider sole, a bit more offset and a marginally larger footprint. Lofts are one degree weaker across the board on the 845 Max. Both are pretty much what you would expect from budget-friendly, game-improvement offerings.

Though all three models bear the Tommy Armour 845 designation, each is meant to serve a different golfer.

Who exactly is the Tommy Armour 845 customer?

That’s an important question for the Tommy Armour brand. For some, the last connection with the brand is the aforementioned SilverScot 845s. For others, it might be as the house brand of DICK’s Sporting Goods which to date likely conjures up images of discount-priced boxed sets.

While not entirely inaccurate, neither picture is what DICK’s has planned for the Tommy Armour brand moving forward. You don’t have to connect too many dots to see how DICK’s is hoping to navigate a pathway towards establishing Tommy Armour as a value-based option which most directly competes with similarly low-priced equipment manufacturers such as Tour Edge, Sub 70 and Inesis.

Certainly, there will be a variety of challenges. DICK’s understands the sometimes uncomfortable reality of trying to sell its own products on the same exact floorspace it uses to display gear from the big OEMs. Sales volumes for Callaway, TaylorMade and Titleist are significantly higher than for Tommy Armour. That is to say, Tommy Armour, even if given some measure of preferential treatment, isn’t likely going to be stealing enough sales from the major OEMs to cause any real consternation.

The more onerous task might be establishing (or re-establishing) brand perception with consumers. Rome wasn’t built in a day and you’ve seen car brands try something similar where an unsuspecting group of consumers is asked to guess the brand of a car based on the looks, accouterments, technologies, and curb appeal.

The typical responses range from BMW to Audi and Mercedes before the facilitator reveals, “Nope, it’s actually the all-new 2020 Chevy Such and Such.” The point is, successful brands have well-established personas which typically prevent seismic shifts in perception even in the face of objective information.

That isn’t to say Tommy Armour can’t earn its place at a table with larger brands but the growth process will assuredly be incremental.

Tommy Armour 845 Stories

In 1927, Tommy Armour won his first major at Oakmont Country Club. The winner’s check was $500. To honor this achievement, the first run of Tommy Armour 845 Forged irons will be limited to 500 sets, each numbered individually.

Here’s where you come in. If there’s a universal truth in golf, it’s that golfers love sharing stories. Cruise over to our Instagram and tell us your best Tommy Armour 845 story.

The best story will receive the #1/500 set of Tommy Armour 845 Forged irons. That’s kind of a big deal.

The 845 Forged irons are priced at $999 (set of eight). Stock/no-upcharge shafts include True Temper Elevate 95, Dynamic Gold 105 and Project X LZ.

Both the standard 845 and 845 Max are priced at $499 (steel) and $599 (graphite) for a set of seven clubs. The stock steel shaft is the True Temper XP 85 and the stock graphite shaft is the UST Recoil ESX.

The entire Tommy Armour 845 line is available at retail now.

For more information visit the Golf Galaxy website.

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      Steve

      2 years ago

      I picked up the TA 845 Forged about a year ago at an absolute steal from Dick’s (Set 6 of 500). I bought them online sight unseen. They were delivered to the house and I’ve been blown away since. These are easily as good as anything else out there, and the short heel/toe length with a thin top line makes them look like a nice “player” style at address. Sure they’re not a buttery soft blade, but my goodness do these things go a long way and feel great to boot. I’m talking a full club and a half longer than my old players. Probably has a lot to do with the strong lofts, but the ball flight is good and workability is good. Personally I’m getting tired of all the inflated pricing on the name brand golf clubs that provide very little (if any) advantage for the average golfer. I played at a 5 handicap last season with these irons, I highly doubt something with a “name brand” on the back that cost 2x the price would’ve dropped my scores.

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      Kevin Washington

      3 years ago

      TA all tge way!!! Picked up the TA1 set used for 119.00, 4,5 hybrid 6-PW. Atomic Max 7i 11.00, and 845 Max 5-AW practically new 90.00. The ball flies and flies. You can hit high and low, but primarily straight. Fun clubs. 12 hdc 2 aces

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      Dan Cohen

      3 years ago

      I wish people would stop saying that feel is just sound. Sound is a factor that influences feel, but it’s not the whole thing.

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      George Johnson

      4 years ago

      I play the original 845’s with the tour step stiff shaft ,i want to try the new 845’s they look awesome .be interesting to see the difference .i have 4 sets of the originals

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      Mike Kibunja

      4 years ago

      The Tommy Armour V25 EVO Forged are the best small head player Irons I ever played. Period. They were my transition from cast cavity backs to forged semi-blades and were simply a revelation; I loved them.
      I donated my set to a young upcoming golfer in Tanzania who is gunning to get into the European Tour. wouId love a replacement with the new 845 Forged. Stiff flex steel shafts, standard grip and lofts please.
      Mike Kibunja,
      Bangkok, Thailand.

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      JonD

      4 years ago

      I’m in the market for new irons. The 845s are on my list. Thing is if I purchased them, I would definately wait 9 to 12 months. Dicks discounts their Tommy Armour clubs faster and deeper than any other OEMs.

      Case in point the Atomic irons are going for $250 now and they have not been out a year yet..

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      steve

      4 years ago

      Where did you see the Atomic irons on sale at that price? thanks!

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      Tom Duckworth

      4 years ago

      Saw these sets at Golf Galaxy today just by chance after reading this.
      They looked good on the shelf next to the other brands shelf appeal was every bit as good as any club of this type. Very impressed with the shaft options.
      Looking for some clubs for my granddaughter that’s golfing in high school and could stand an upgrade from her ten year old clubs. These will be on the radar to test this week.

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      Scott C.

      4 years ago

      I’m glad they added the forged line. I’m looking forward to the Most Wanted Testing to see how they perform. I’m also curious about the Drivers, woods, and hybrids. I kind of wish they would do away with the “Max” version. No one seemed to like them because the sole was too thick. Maybe its an ego thing that no one wanted to admit they needed a Super GI club, but from my experience, that segment of the Atomic line just didn’t move. Hopefully with the forged player distance option in the lineup, it will boost sales. Overall, I think the TA line has been underrated since Dick’s brought it back.

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      Brandon

      4 years ago

      The Atomic Max moves decently, it’s just for a very specific segment of the market, mainly older guys with slow swing speeds. The ball absolutely launches off of them, though.

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      Scott C.

      4 years ago

      I’m sure they play fine for the segment they are intended to target. The feedback I got from the TA1 line was fine.. I’m sure the Atomic line was just as good or better, but I couldn’t seem to move them. The people I showed the Max to couldn’t get over the thickness. Some couldn’t get past the name either, especially when 2 or 3 year old versions of clubs from major OEMs are still on the shelf.

      Berniez40

      4 years ago

      I know the TA Line was underrated. If the heads on the Atomic Max’s hadn’t been shovels by any other name, I might have bagged them instead of the Cobra FMax Superlites. They were obviously made with quality components. The Senior Flex Recoil shafts ran out rather quickly in our area, and that definitely forced me into the Cobras. I hopee these Tommy Armour 845’s are even better. They have to be to get the new business model to work. I am intrigued by the niche marketing technique they are attempting to execute. . I hope it works for Dick’s/Golf Galaxy simply because they had the balls to try it.

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      shortside

      4 years ago

      They’re sooooo good looking. Not there’s anything wrong with that.

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      Fred

      4 years ago

      I hit these side by side against the Taylor Made Sim Max. TA845 matched the Sim Max in every respect of distance, launch angle, spin, and dispersion. I ordered the 845s with Jumbo Grips, 1/2 short, 2 Up, with no upcharges. Very happy to save $300 and see the same results as the Taylor Made Sim

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      Brandon

      4 years ago

      I’ve hit all three of these, and the brand continues to impress me. Being someone who has improves his game recently, a move from a game improvement iron to a players distance iron makes sense, the launch of the 845 Forged really intrigues me. It compares well to clubs like TaylorMade p790, and Callaway Apex. Performance is really similar, and for $400 less, it’s hard to pass up. Also the 845 sit at $500? Compared to SIM, Mavrik, or T300 pricing it’s a steal.

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      Charlie McCracken

      4 years ago

      Funny comment above, as my first irons were MacGregor TA Silver Scot 945, bought at $5 per club from Herman’s World of Sports in Times . Square when I was 14. Won the caddy tournament twice in HS, Same clubs more less that Johnny Miller shot 63 at Oakmont in US Open. My brother in law lost my 6 iron too.

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      Dave

      4 years ago

      Very well done. I especially appreciate knowing who makes these , and what other brands they produce

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      Chris Nickel

      4 years ago

      You’re welcome and thanks for the read. Understanding where/who is designing and manufacturing products is important information – that is if you can find it.

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      Bob

      4 years ago

      When I saw the 845 forged, I thought, TaylorMade P790? When you consider that it’s $1,400 for an 8pc set of P790s, $1,000 for TA’s 845 forged is not out of the question. After all, top-of-the-line irons have to look the part, in performance and price, and as long as TA can hold its own in testing, then it it might be a fit for those who want a player’s iron at a discount.

      I don’t need new irons for a while, but if they offered LH I might try them out for fun.

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      Ima Fitter

      4 years ago

      This is NOT the original Tommy Armour golf company. They are made by Golfworks and Dick’s bought the name. Don’t compare these to the original 845’s…it a different company and they could have called these clubs by any name, but Dick’s & Golf Galaxy is trying to make $$$ and make you think Tommy Armour has come back from the grave! Maybe Dick’s & GG should invest in real fitters instead of ex-McDonald’s burger flippers!

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      Matt Trevinowski

      4 years ago

      Dick’s & GG are trying to make $$$??!! What has this world come to??!!

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      Jesse

      4 years ago

      TA845 are not made by the Golf Works. Dicks collaborated with the Golf Works on the TA1 other than that Dicks hasn’t utilized TGW since.

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      Mike

      4 years ago

      I just bought a full bag last night. Part of the order was put in as Tommy Armour but the fairway woods needed to be entered as Golfworks due to the computer system quirk.. therefore I would say Golfworks is still involved.

      OttoMatic70

      3 years ago

      The TA 845 is not made by the GolfWorks. I happen to be the lead club fitter at a Golf Galaxy; I can assure you that I have never worked as a ‘burger flipper’. I have two degrees; one in chemical technology, and one in pre-medical/psychology. I also have several years of study in advanced physics at the graduate school level. If you read the article thoroughly you would see that Performax is the design/build Co. The GolfWorks is owned by Golf Galaxy and is utilized as a component supplier.

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      David Brown

      4 years ago

      12 Handicap
      I played the Tommy Armour Silver Scott 845s for 15 years. Exellent clubs and were enjoyable to play, Does the new company designers and engineers have any relationship to old Tommy Armour Company or has the company just bought the Trademark name? I will go hit the clubs when I have a chance at our Golf Galaxy.

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      Willie T

      4 years ago

      First set of irons I purchased in ’17 was a set of 845s Silver Scots. I gamed them till the end of last year when I picked up as set of used Callaway Diablo Edges – talk about a totally different look at address. I have been waiting to see what the new 845s would look like – have to say I would like to have seen them “closer” in design to the originals, but they do look good. Now its off to Dicks to see them in person and maybe hit ’em. Dick’s is on the right path – now its time to see if the golf community will buy in to the rebirth of an iconic name.

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      Hector Cyre

      4 years ago

      What about members of MGS who choose not to be on Instagram (with good reason IMO)?. I think my Tommy Armour story is (marginally) interesting, maybe even worthy of consideration for the giveaway.
      I have been golfing for 60 years. I started at 14, with rental clubs (7 mixed clubs in an old bag) at a little 9-hole track with sand greens. My first set of clubs (in college) were Wilson Staff. Might as well start at the top of the foodchain, right?. I played them for 25 years. My second set was TA 845s, which I bought when the Wilsons simply became too hard for me to hit consistently. Since then, I have had ten sets of irons, ranging from TaylorMade Supersteels with graphite bubble shafts, to Nickents, to Cleveland HB3s.. Most are in my garage, a few reside in the storage locker. I have only sold two sets of my irons in my life – the Wilsons and the TAs. I regret doing so every time I walk onto a course or the driving range. I can’t get them out of my mind. My current gamers (Mizuno Hot Metals and Hogan Ft. Worth Blacks) are objectively far superior clubs to either the Wilsons or the old TA 845s. Hit well, they are like a knife going through room-temperature butter. But on the rare occasion that happens any more, all I can think of is the TA845s or (sometimes) the Wilsons. If I was awarded the new TA Forged irons, my estate will have to deal with them when I’m gone – they certainly wouldn’t be sold.

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      Steve S

      4 years ago

      Hit the 845max demo clubs at Dicks the first day they came out. Decent feel, good trajectory, enough spin. Will be a good choice for folks that don’t want to spend $800-$1000 for Cally, TM, etc. Hit all of those and came up with about the same numbers. I was a 10 HCP last year with a moderate swing speed (Driver 90+mph).

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      George Johnson

      4 years ago

      i will have to try these new 845’s to see how much better they are then my originals , hard to part from my 845s

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      Mike T

      4 years ago

      Can they be customized for loft and lie? Can I buy 5 – PW only? . Its impossible to do any customizing at the website.

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      Brandon

      4 years ago

      You can custom order them in store

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      Mike

      4 years ago

      Yes. Mine were ordered after my fitting at +1” length, 2up, jumbo grip.

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      NH Golfer

      4 years ago

      Once again I scratch my head on you guys promoting a Dicks product. You are the ones that talk about the importance of getting fit and I agree with that. But who is going to fit me at Dicks? The guy from canoes or the guy that sells rifles? You just can’t count on quality service there.

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      Chris Nickel

      4 years ago

      No doubt, fitting is important. No one is disputing that.

      And the reality is, regardless of where you go, it’s a bit of a fitting roulette depending on any number of factors and Dick’s doesn’t have the best track record in this regard. In this specific instance, Golf Galaxy might be the better option as it carries the Tommy Armour line as well. Again, it depends primarily on the individual doing the fitting.

      Ultimately, this is why we’ve created the TrueGolfFit platform so golfers who aren’t going to go the Club Champion/True Spec route have a way to be fit based on thousands of swings from real golfers.

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      NH Golfer

      4 years ago

      Once again I scratch my head on you guys promoting a Dicks product. You are the ones that talk about the importance of getting fit and I agree with that. But who is going to fit me at Dicks? The guy from kayaks or the guy that sells rifles? You just can’t count on quality service there.

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      Berniez40

      4 years ago

      I am anxious to try them, as I was pleasantly surprised by The TA1’s–Repectable Feel and Distance, and blown away bt the distance on The Atomics. (Feel was okay, but the club heads were—shall we say—“Shovelesque.”)
      These 845’s look pretty good to me. I won’t be ponying up for the forged as my game took a nose-dive last year, and I’m counting on the current set of Cobra F-Max Superlites to prop me back up. I
      like Dick’s business model. If TaylorMade gives your bottom line a black eye–make something you CAN discount and make a profit on—-just in case the OEM’s decide to go back to the suicidal business model of 2-3 new flagship drivers every year.

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      George

      4 years ago

      I was curious optimistic about these. Price is a concern butt looking forward to trying them out.

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      Ken May

      4 years ago

      Dick’s has started to put out high quality golf equipment under Tommy Armour and Maxfli at good prices by your testing. Like Costco’s brand of Kirkland products which are produced by high end producers, who actually is producing the Dick’s golf equipment?

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      Chris Nickel

      4 years ago

      Regarding Tommy Armour specifically, Dick’s has been working largely with Performax. As noted in the article, Performax works with other OEMs such as Tour Edge, Ryoma, PRGR, OnOff, and Yamaha.

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      Rob

      4 years ago

      I was very excited to hear about the 845 Forged irons and finally got to hit them in the store. They were really fantastic BUT I was very disappointed to hear they were so limited in quantity and would cost $1,000 a set with only 3 shaft options (none of which fit me). I thought for sure they were going to set the iron market on fire by offering these at say $799-$899. At a lower cost I could almost justify buying them and paying for a re-shaft but not at $1,000 when there are so many amazing iron sets with lots more fitting options in that price range. I tried to support the brand but it just doesn’t make sense at this point.

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      statmagic

      4 years ago

      Dick’s, you had one job for cryin’ out loud. Just make them exactly like the old ones! Cripes!

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      John F.

      4 years ago

      Just checked their website… no graphite option in the 845 Forged is a deal killer. Maybe their still trying to get their act together, which is a good reason not to buy… can’t get their act together.

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      TommyArmourGolf

      4 years ago

      John – FYI you are able to get UST recoil graphite shafts in the 845 Forged. If you go to your local DSG or Golf Galaxy., you can get get fit and custom order them. Both the fitting and the graphite shafts are no up-charge when purchasing the set.

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      Funkaholic

      4 years ago

      That makes no sense.

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      Pete

      4 years ago

      Should have just gone ahead and gave it the “MGS Most Wanted” label no…(eye roll)

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      Alex

      4 years ago

      I bought the TA1 irons on sale as a backup set– and it made me putt my gamers M2s on eBay.. . (I’m about to buy sub70739s with Elevate 95 shafts because of my achy hands. How do the XP85 shafts compare (do they have VSS like the Elevate 95(? Thanks (I am not in the market now– but if these go on sale like other TA products later in the year……)

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      Justin

      4 years ago

      It should read “Dumb and Dumberer ” . The sequel was awful. The original is a classic.

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      Marcelo Quinones

      4 years ago

      My first set of irons were the TA Silver Scot. I learned and played those till I lost my 6 iron. I replaced it but it wasn’t the same. I traded them for the Ping i3 Blade. I would consider testing the TA Forged!

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