Callaway Biggest Big Bertha (1997) VS. Callaway EPIC (2017)
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Callaway Biggest Big Bertha (1997) VS. Callaway EPIC (2017)

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Callaway Biggest Big Bertha (1997) VS. Callaway EPIC (2017)

TRIVIA QUESTION: What was the Callaway Big Bertha line of clubs named after?

I will never forget the moment. I was 20, and known locally as a guy that could hit it past almost everyone. My lifelong buddy and I were both home from college, and his dad asked if we wanted to play at his country club. Free rounds were the only rounds we could afford at the time, so I quickly showed up in my best ragtag gear.

I stepped up to the first tee and drove one long and straight. “Great ball! Man you are long,” said the dad’s friend. His dad, however, he said nothing. Crickets. I think I remember hearing him chuckle under his breath a little.

I quickly found out why. He had a secret weapon, and he couldn’t wait to show it off.  And show it off he did. When he removed that headcover, addressed the ball and dropped that piece of titanium artillery on the ground, I swear I felt the ground shake. It was that German Howitzer we talked about, and it whipped my ass into shape and taught me a lesson, all-day long.

It was the biggest big thing I had ever seen. It also gave a dad who was what seemed like a football field behind my drives the summer before a very real advantage.  He wasn’t just near me; he was hitting it past me on some holes. This couldn’t be real. What the hell was this thing?

It was the Callaway Biggest Big Bertha.

That was real.

Today we have another Callaway driver making claims to be as revolutionary. It was only natural that we put these two to a head-to-head test for you to see for yourself.

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CALLAWAY DRIVER HISTORY

  • 1989-1993 S2H2 Woods
  • 1991-1994 Big Bertha Woods
  • 1995-1998 Great Big Bertha Woods
  • 1997 Biggest Big Bertha Woods
  • 1999 Great Big Bertha Hawkeye Woods

HOW WE TESTED

  • Two Callaway drivers were tested head to head to head (Biggest Big Bertha and Epic).
  • Both were tested at 9° loft (Epic weight slider in neutral position).
  • Seven golfers with handicaps ranging from 0-15 and driver swing speeds between 90 and 115 mph participated in this test.
  • Each tester hit 12-14 shots for each club from every set (frequently rotating between clubs).
  • Gross mishits were eliminated and are not included in the shot counts.
  • Remaining outliers were identified using Median Absolute Deviation (both distance and offline), and dropped before calculation of the final averages.
  • All testers hit Bridgestone B330-RX Golf Balls.
  • Ball Data was recorded using a Foresight GC2 Launch Monitor.

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THE RESULTS

OBSERVATIONS:

If you’ve read our previous Head 2 Head of the M1 vs. r7 SuperQuad, we showed what 10 years of technology improvements could do to a driver. With the Biggest Big Bertha released in 1997, this year marks 20 laps around the sun for Callaway.

As you would expect the 20-year window provided some significant “gainz” on downrange performance:

  • The Big Bertha Epic produced shots on average of nearly 20 more yards than its 20-year-old predecessor.
  • The Epic also launched faster (8 mph to be exact).
  • While the Biggest Big Bertha launched higher than the Epic, this could be contributed to the higher spin rate (and likely more flexible shaft).
  • The only parameter that the Biggest Big Bertha trumped the Epic in was accuracy- producing shots that finished on average 3 yards closer to the center line.
  • On average, testers swung the Epic over 3 mph faster than the Bertha.

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Epic vs BBB

ClubBall SpeedLaunchSpinHeightCarryYardsYards From Center
Callaway Epic143.6414.812,50133.61239.61252.220.81
Callaway BBB138.2115.442,97634.56222.49235.8317.36

20 YEARS TIME

There you have it – the data suggests the Callaway Epic is far superior to the Biggest Big Bertha. Maybe this statement does stand true, “20 years equals 20 yards (almost).”

While the Biggest Big Bertha did certainly receive positive subjective feedback – unfortunately the data shows otherwise.  I guess it’s time to tell my dad to get rid of his entire ’97 Big Bertha set, at least the driver.

 

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      Walter

      5 years ago

      Just think of how far Mike Dunaway was hitting the original stock GBB, over 350yds back in the late 90’s with crap balls. Mike also had input into the designs of the GBB/BB. Think of how far he would hit the new one with new balls today. Just baffles me why no one on tour swings like him or Mike Austin.

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      joro

      6 years ago

      Well what else would be expected. Callaway would have a Tizzy Fit if it were anything less. Of course clubbed speed, length of shaft and COR makes a difference also and the new should be better. But that said what is the clubbed speed, that can make a closer difference. But, we want to sell new clubs, don’t we. I play with a guy that hits an old McGregor driver that outhits us all and 2 have Epics. So huh?

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      Biggest Purchase

      6 years ago

      Very cool comparison and excellent website. Based on this study, a golfer gains a 7 percent increase in distance for using a $500 driver compared to one that can be bought for less than $50 with a new grip- that’s without accounting for shaft differences. I really like the old school look of the BBB and the hitting areas don’t look dramatically different. I’m sold on the BBB. I’ll use the $450 I didn’t spend on an Epic for greens fee, beer and possibly a new custom length shaft.

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      Update

      6 years ago

      I found a BBB for under $25 with a “strong” flex shaft. I put a tackimac line grip on it to complete the old school vibe. There’s no noticeable distance loss compared to the Cleveland Launcher 400, Cleveland TL310, Titleist 907D2, or Ping Rapture I’ve had over the years. I still out-drive my friends with about 240 carry and 30 roll, but now I feel cooler for using an “old” club.

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      Kris

      6 years ago

      Absolutely !!!
      20 years ago, when I tried the Biggest I bought it immediately : it was been huge !!!

      it was my best golf season with a lot long and straight drives : suddently the golf was became a lot of easer !

      so with your write, I am going to do some tests this new GBBB EPIC driver now
      Thanks a lot,

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      CrashTestDummy

      7 years ago

      The original Great Big Bertha was one of my all time favorite drivers. It was a total game changer with the titanium clubhead. I remember hitting it long and straight. Seems like I hit the original Great Big Bertha much longer than I have any other driver, but it was a long time ago when I was much younger and more flexible at the time as well. I didn’t care much for the Biggest Big Bertha.

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      Rick

      3 years ago

      I loved the GBB titanium. I hit it 250 all day long. I had a buddy that could hit it 350-375. He was a phenomenal golfer..

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      kenny

      7 years ago

      So if Callaway were to be honest in its Marketing it could say

      Gain 1 yard a year with new Callaway Golf Driver Models!

      This really highlights for me that the hype about driver distance v the reality are not even close to stacking up, let not forget new models are brought out claiming 20 yards on the previous.

      Pretty sure Callaway have had more than 20 models since 1997 so being generous, each new model, you might pick up a yard on average.

      P.S. i owned the regular BIG BERTHA as the GREAT BIG BERTHA and BIGGEST just seemed to large (How times have changed)

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      Christopher Thompson

      7 years ago

      I used to kill that 1997 driver with a strong flex shaft

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      GolfCodeWeekly

      7 years ago

      Everyone did! It was amazing at the time, almost felt unfair if your opponent had one and you did not

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      Colin Clarkson

      7 years ago

      Owned em both and many in between them!!

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      Scott Yancy III

      7 years ago

      I did the exact same test two weeks ago between my Biggest Big Bertha 8* vs. Epic Sub Zero 8* and 2017 M1 7.5*. In my study the distance gains of the 2 newer drivers were about 5 yards and that was due to the fact that the BBB had a lot more spin. Trajectory was the slightly lower with BBB as well. So if your goal is to bomb drives deep into the horizon new technology should def help. As a tournament player focused on hitting more fairways i kind of like the lower ball flight and the extra spin helps keep my ball from rolling into the rough. I’m not seriously thinking of putting my 1999 driver from my Sr. Year of high school back in the bag am I? If only I could find a way to get the face to sit a little more open at impact it would be a done deal!

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      Biggest Purchase

      6 years ago

      I found about the same results when I compared a 10* BBB strong with a 10.5 Cleveland Launcher 400 stock stiff and 9* Ping Rapture stock stiff. Do you know what the COR is on the BBB?

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      golfraven

      7 years ago

      I guess that the shaft length was certainly shorter ( I doubt they cut the epic down to 43″) so for that the little head produced pretty nice length. I had similar driver in one of the rental sets and boy I hit drives a mile and pretty much straight. So bring back old speck.

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      Eric Harrington

      7 years ago

      Put your EPIC results against 2016’s MWD the M1 460 … M1 beats it in every category (longer, more accurate, less spin, lower launch) except ball speed which is the same. Jailbreak?

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      Mike Colby

      7 years ago

      Interesting observation Eric. I must have missed the head to head results from an unbiased study you’re referring to. I’d welcome reading the study you’re referencing…can you put a link up so other MGS readers can review.

      I’ve heard nothing but good things about both drivers…

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      Dgolfer

      7 years ago

      You took the words right out of my mouth. Both of these driver heads are very similar in statistics.

      david johnston

      7 years ago

      still looking for the argueable pre-nike year of callaway non els grind as advertised given the “new” taylormade were introduced in 1998.

      I don’t like Faldo or any of his swings thanks boink.

      those cannot be found in late eighties non grandson had shrunk approaches to famously similar house with pools to find balls against had eaten and slept in their own pool.

      compared to womens lite xl, from argueable nike comp

      Stillnumber1

      7 years ago

      Why all the hand-wringing about the shaft?

      Let’s pretend the results were similar.

      Is anyone really going to hunt down a 20-year old head, get it fitted with a modern shaft, and put it in the bag???

      Don’t think so.

      This is a fun comparo, and educational at the same time.

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      david johnston

      7 years ago

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      Stillnumber1

      7 years ago

      20 years = 16.4 yards gained!
      The only thing EPIC is the level of year-over-year marketing hype that leads people to buy.
      Just think, there is at least one person who has spent $6000 or more in the last 20 years buying the latest and greatest each new season.
      By my math, that’s $366 per yard gained. OUCH!
      I’ll keep banging away on my 2009 i15 driver. Oh, I love to test the new stuff, but I generally don’t see or feel enough real change to justify moving on.
      These test results vindicate my feelings. As always, great work MGS!!!

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      Barry Johnson

      7 years ago

      Lets see a test of the non conforming ERC Hot drivers against Epic and see whether the technology has caught up with the hotter 0.86 face specification.

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      Doug

      7 years ago

      Kind of a fun little comparison of basically “off the rack” drivers.
      Do we really need to get all nano on details like shafts etc? That’s not the point, right? Of course a 20 year driver won’t compete with a new one… duh!

      But a point that’s closer to reality is how little drivers change NOW.
      I think that we have entered the nano-tech age to try to stretch out a new improvement.

      Take this Epic driver. I think I saw testing results that showed the Epic to gain .35 yards over the 816 DBD.

      That’s a whole foot. One foot gained. Really?

      In other words, I think driver improvement technology has slowed to snails pace. I think computers have eked out most of what’s available, so I doubt we see much larger gains, unless a new material arrives, or new rules are adopted.

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      Scott

      7 years ago

      Perfectly stated.

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      Patrick Butler

      7 years ago

      One important specification not addressed in the article is shaft length. The EPIC shaft is .5 inches longer, hence more clubhead speed, less accuracy.

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      Joseph Milazzo

      7 years ago

      You guys should notify the PGA and Augusta National because it sounds like they have all lengthened all those courses for no reason.

      While I do agree with the testing there are so many more variables involved. It’s certainly not just the driver, it’s the ball the shaft heck even the players.

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      Adi Haryanto

      7 years ago

      97 BBB is one of the best.
      But epic, sorry no comment.

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      Rick Contreras

      7 years ago

      W0W! I’ll take beautiful persimmon!

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      Mark CArey

      7 years ago

      I don’t understand why you would
      Use golfers for this kind of test. A swing robot would produce more consistent results at different swing speeds and give a more accurate picture

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      Aaron

      7 years ago

      Some seem to be looking site of the fact that a tiny tiny number of non-competitive (ie: ams that play tournys) golfers get fitted for a shaft.
      The expiriment is designed to put a driver against another driver….and as I see it, driver is a term used to describe a head+shaft+grip combo, not a head. Golf shops that I go to don’t have racks displaying heads for sale.
      I’m sure someone from GolfPride could make a stronger argument that grip type/brand/model matter more in a test.
      Lesson…MyGolfSpy out together a great, fun test. If that isn’t enough for you, go fund and develop your own “MyGolfSpy”

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      Jooma

      7 years ago

      All tests where different shafts are used are pointles and I am surprised that people pretending to be pros are doing it.

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      P.J.

      7 years ago

      This is about how the club has changed, not just the head. Give me a break, appreciate the article for the information, nostalgia and entertainment value. Do you have anything positive to say?

      I enjoyed the article – it’s fantastic information and proves the clubs have gotten better over the years. Thanks for the article, MyGolfSpy, keep up the great articles that are interesting AND informative.

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      Fielding

      7 years ago

      These comparisons are great, looking forward to some research into iron improvements. Ever consider measuring “accuracy” by degrees off center instead of yards to account for the added distance? It’s funny even looking at the accuracy this way the BBB is still more accurate (+-2.108 degrees off center vs +- 2.364 degrees off center for the epic). To put that in perspective if the BBB were hit the same distance as the Epic it’s accuracy by “yardage” would be 18.57 yards vs the 17.36 yards measured at 235.83 yards distance. Also were there significantly more outliers/miss hits with the BBB as a testament to the increase in the newer driver’s forgiveness?

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      Jon

      7 years ago

      Fielding:

      I was thinking the same thing, only using a percentage of off line (off line yardage / total yardage). Epic 8.26% and BBB 7.36%. Basically the same observation as yours just expressed a little differently.

      However, as I think about it I am not sure if this is the right way to look at it. It seems that the further down range the ball is hit the curve away from center increases at an increasing rate (off line hits are a curve that gets relatively more off line the further down range the ball is hit and in any event is not a straight line)

      I wonder if you dialed back on the swing speed for the Epic and hit it the same distance as the BBB if the distance off line for the Epic might be even closer than the BBB?

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      Fielding

      7 years ago

      Good point on draw/fade effecting off center more down range, hard to measure that. I’m sure the shaft difference has a huge effect on club head speed so it would be difficult to dial it back. Its interesting.

      Billy McDonald

      7 years ago

      Same specs? Listed under Observations the article stated:

      “While the Biggest Big Bertha launched higher than the Epic, this could be contributed to the higher spin rate (and likely more flexible shaft).”

      Not the same specs.

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      Keith Olson

      7 years ago

      My 983E is still the longest, straightest, most workable driver I have ever hit. That came out a good 12+ years ago now. Everything since has been propaganda!

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      Robbie White

      7 years ago

      That “propaganda” is in my bag. The Epic SZ is the most low spinning while still being forgiving driver that I’ve ever hit. I’ve gained on average 7 to 12 yards more distance and hit 2.5 more fairways a round

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      Ibanez Petrucci

      7 years ago

      It’s odd you mentioned that club.
      I play golf with a guy , who will not upgrade from the 983.
      And I don’t blame him.
      He kills that driver consistently over 300.
      Others try to talk to him about upgrading and I tell him , not to do it.
      If you are hitting a driver well and scoring, stick with it.

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      Michael K Kielawa

      7 years ago

      The local shop was gonna give me $12 for trade in, I decided to keep it, may have to bring it back out.

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      Bryan Greer

      7 years ago

      That 983 series was the real deal. I still have my K.

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      Don

      4 years ago

      I have found the 983K to be the most consistent for me; not the longest but consistent with solid feedback. and distance. All the marketing over the years has made me even more skeptical than usual. regarding claims by the manufacturers.

      John

      7 years ago

      Re the comment that shafts make zero difference-absolute bollocks.Even getting properly fit for the correct shaft can nett some people 30 yards regardless of clubhead.Hit a properly fit accuflex/Aldila/Graphite Design/Fujikura/Harrison etc etc vs an off the shelf stock shaft of the same flex and you will get vastly different distances,accuracy,spin rates,peak heights etc etc with EXACTLY the same head,

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      Jooma

      7 years ago

      Absolutely correct

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      Kerry Cole

      7 years ago

      I wonder what the results would be if they both had the same shafts in them???? How much difference would there be??

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      joro

      7 years ago

      By far the biggest change is in Drivers, Fairway Wood have improved also, but the Irons are pretty much the same other than they are longer and have stronger lofts. The Putter, only the price has changed there. Todays “Super Dooper” Putters cost more than my first full set of Pro Line Clubs including a Leather Bag. That is the big change, Cost.

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      Thomas Brokl

      7 years ago

      Could you please compare the shafts on each. Were the shafts the same length? A club manufacturer once warned me that 90% of the performance comes from the shaft. Shafts have changed a lot in the last 20 years, materials, kick points, etc.. Can you fit the BBB with an identical shaft and retest? Then you would have a true “head to head” comparison.

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      Shortside

      7 years ago

      It was a true head to head of a 20 year old off the rack and the latest tech off the rack.

      That said I’m among those curious to see both club heads fitted with identical shafts. Old shaft then new shaft.

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      alfriday

      7 years ago

      This test backs up my own recent experience. I was in the midwest for a week in February while my current set of clubs was in Florida. The weather was an unexpected 70 degrees, so I cobbled together a set of older clubs for a couple of rounds. I used a GGB S2H2 for my driver.

      I remember how big the GBB seemed when it came out. Now it looks tiny to my eye. The shaft was short by today’s standard, more a modern 3 wood length than driver length. I loved the sound of the old driver.

      I gave up distance, but was in the fairway more often.

      I now grip down an inch and a half on my new driver. I am still longer than the old one and just as accurate.

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      Brad

      7 years ago

      Back in 1995 (in my early twenties) I would consistently hit my Callaway Great Big Bertha driver straight and over 310 yards. I took a few years off due to ex wife and daughter, but have since started playing consistently again about 7 years ago. My 1st driver back was a Callaway Diablo and I got to where I was averaging around 300 yard drives. I loved the newer technology and still do. Over the last several years my swing speed has slowly been dropping and now im averaging 260 using a Extreme Fit driver. I still have the same Big Bertha driver and I can barely get it 220 yards now. Big difference. Of course my age has alot to do with the differences (my swing speed then was 107 and now is at 95)

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      xjohnx

      7 years ago

      I’m sure it’s obviously a mistake but you say they both launch higher than one another in back to back bullet points. Just a heads up.

      -The Epic also launched faster (8 mph to be exact) and higher than the Biggest Big Bertha.
      -While the Biggest Big Bertha launched higher than the Epic, this could be contributed to the higher spin rate (and likely more flexible shaft).

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      Gordon

      7 years ago

      I noticed this also, I’m sure that is a typo.

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      Mat Tisdale

      7 years ago

      Looks like I was pretty close with my guess of 17.2 yards difference.. I would love to see something on the Ping drivers and how my G5 compares to the new ones.

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      SirShives

      7 years ago

      I love my G5! Best driver I’ve ever used. I don’t see that I’m giving up any yardage to my buddies with newer drivers.

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      Joe

      7 years ago

      Same here 9* offset reg/soft I’ve purchased at least 5 new drivers and am back again to the G-5

      Jeff Brennan

      7 years ago

      I have the GBB Epic and it is a phenomenal driver.

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      MG

      7 years ago

      What is the cc head size on the 97 bertha? Also what was the shaft length? I have a bb mini 1.5 driver that I find myself hitting more and more. It’s cranked up to 16 degrees (can go as low as 13 degrees) but I seem to be way more consistent with it than my cobra fly-z plus driver and when I catch it on the screws I don’t seem to lose much distance even at 16 degrees of loft. It seems like the 1.5 mini is pretty close in specs to the 97 bb. Thanks!

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      Adam Briles

      7 years ago

      It’s amazing how there’s not that much difference.

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      Trevor Howard

      7 years ago

      Funny thing, Im hitting the same distances I have for 20yrs even with ball and club change! I guess the first “big” head driver that actually gained distance for me was the Ping ist back around 2000

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      Mike B

      7 years ago

      Interesting. Makes the point I’ve harped on for years. Been playing this silly game for 40 years. Every year I was supposed to gain distance from my new club, new ball, new tee design, and even my shoes! I’d by interested in seeing the test repeated with a modern, lower spinning shaft. That would yield some very interesting numbers I think.
      As a 13 year old, with plastic headed Northwestern brand clubs from K-Mart, I hit that tiny driver 200 yards. Today as a 50 something, twice a month golfer, I average 270 with the big stick.
      If those clubs, balls, and shoes were all supposed to give me just 5 more yards every year, every year, I should be bombing it somewhere north of 400 yards off the tee every time!
      Who do I sue to get my promised extra 130 yards????

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      Jim Williamson

      7 years ago

      20 Years ago I could hit a Big Bertha longer than I could hit an Epic now. I tested Epic against my XR and Epic was about the same.
      Jim Eh

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      HCKR

      7 years ago

      So, it looks like drivers have improved about 0.8 yards a year over 20 years. Really glad I stopped falling for the hype and stuck with my current one. Today’s drivers cost a lot of money for marginal distance gains and loss of accuracy.

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      Mike Williams

      7 years ago

      Good test – the point to me is this is simply a top line off-the-shelf driver of 1997 vs a top line off-the-shelf driver of 2017 from the same company. Fun, uncomplicated and very interesting – Thanks!

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      Michael

      7 years ago

      Folks, shafts have such a small impact on distance. Impact and club head design far outweigh shaft. This has been said by the likes of Crossfield and the great Tom Wishon. Don’t believe the $300 shaft hype. Same shaft in both clubs and it’s the same result.

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      Shortside

      7 years ago

      Then by all means get your driver equipped with a 30 year old off the rack shaft.

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      Jooma

      7 years ago

      Bull

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      solly5

      7 years ago

      Longer but less accurate. First question is the difference in club length. Certainly updated design and materials contribute to length, along with shaft improvements.

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      Matt

      7 years ago

      Longer is less accurate, always. Just by going 20 y farther it will always be farther offline. It is in fact straighter relative to the distance it traveled. (Less offline)

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      greg p

      7 years ago

      What is it about the new tech that has created all those extra yards? Is it primarily the ball speed? Seems like most of the other specs are fairly comparable.
      I agree with Ron. I was expecting a greater improvement–particularly in accuracy.

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      cgasucks

      7 years ago

      I would love for Mygolfspy to do a comparison test of driver from any OEM of 2017 models vs. models from 5-7 years ago…

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      HardcoreLooper

      7 years ago

      ^ This. These articles are fun to read. No doubt. But put a five year old driver up against this year’s model, and let’s see what we get. No one should be hitting a 20 year old driver anymore, but would a 2017 model at full retail be that much more of an upgrade as opposed to a 2012 model at 25% of the price?

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      Shortside

      7 years ago

      I remember taking my shiny new Hawkeye to the range. My first driver with a graphite shaft (I took to new tech slowly). Loved that club. Speaking of which shaft tech has certainly made a major impact over the years. Would love see the results of a 20 year old shaft vs 2017 with the same head.

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      Ben S

      7 years ago

      Wow. Eye opening results but it’s kind of expected.

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      Geo Golfx

      7 years ago

      Would love to see the flex board measurements on the BBB.

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      Rob

      7 years ago

      I’d also love to see this test done after re-shafting the BBB with the same shaft as the Epic. The stock shafts Callaway used back in those days were complete garbage compared to the aftermarket shafts that are being offered in today’s clubs. They were typically weak to flex and had high torque ratings. I remember people reshafting those Callaway in droves to shafts like the Grafalloy Prolite, UST Proforce and AJ Tech shafts. Once you have the same shafts you’ll really would have a directly comparison of the heads only to see how far head technology has come. I know it would be more work but still it would be fun to see.

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      Geo Golfx

      7 years ago

      Really wouldn’t make sense. It’s comparing like to like- from era to era. You could always put an Ozik Black tie in a MacGregor M09T LFF- Doesn’t mean it’s an equal comparison.

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      KM

      7 years ago

      Shafts are better now and the clubs are longer.

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      Brian R Murphy

      7 years ago

      My 2 favorite drivers!! #TEAMCALLAWAY #TEAMEPIC

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      d

      7 years ago

      So Callaway can advertise the Epic is 17 yards longer?

      20 years ago most new courses from the tips were 7,000 yards. Today they are closer to 7,300 yards. Probably should have kept the driver and the courses shorter…

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      Michael Colagrossi

      7 years ago

      I own the Epic and loved playing g the GBBB!

      Reply

      david johnston

      7 years ago

      direct center hits even on argueable compression against distance balls last at most one hundred hits with plastic pieces in previous non hosel hit argument.

      pulled or included parts for personal construction. too much forced knee and high left day betting

      Reply

      Luke Ott

      7 years ago

      I don’t understand. That ball for all the swing speeds? That doesn’t make sense to me. Why not invest in a robot there is too much error in gamers especially when you’re eliminating shots. Every ball, every club, every swing speed. Let’s find that dataset and get into those numbers that would worthy of investigation.

      Reply

      MyGolf Spy

      7 years ago

      Oh Luke, sorry to inform you but you owe $5 to the “Robots Robots Robots Jar”. If robots were the best way to test we would have bought one a longgggg time ago:

      http://mygolfspy.com/golf-club-testing-results-you-can-trust/

      Reply

      Luke Ott

      7 years ago

      Link me to the donation. My bad for championing more empirical and repeatable data.

      Reply

      MyGolf Spy

      7 years ago

      If it was better data we would have loved to have buy one of those robots. Real testers is much more difficult, time consuming and costly.

      Reply

      Geo Golfx

      7 years ago

      MyGolf Spy Humans play golf. Not robots. :)

      Reply

      MyGolf Spy

      7 years ago

      So you lost the robot battle now on to the ball to try for the win? We test with one ball to eliminate the added variable. We use Bridgestone balls for testing because in our research we found them to be the most consistent from ball to ball which is most important for testing purposes. What’s next?

      Reply

      Billy McDonald

      7 years ago

      He mentioned the ball in his original post. Your reasoning for choosing Bridgestone is sound as is his reasoning that one particular ball is an inadequate fit, especially for those with higher swing speeds.

      As for myself, I’d also have liked to see comparative shafts. There’s what you offered, and it’s appreciated, what was offered in ’97 vs what is offered today. But the same shaft may have offered a clearer picture of clubhead vs clubhead.

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      BRY

      7 years ago

      Aren’t today’s drivers built for a different type of ball than what was used 20 years ago? I’ve been told the optimal ball flight has changed due to the design of the ball. You didn’t used to want to hit high, low-spinning drives. If this is true, it would be interesting to see the BBB results using the golf balls from that era as well.

      Reply

      Ron Gillette

      7 years ago

      The math just doesn’t add up. We are supposed to be getting 7-12 yards more with every release. So that should be a 140 yard distance.

      Reply

      Justin Blair

      7 years ago

      They’re probably the worst offenders.

      Reply

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