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Is This the End of an Era for Putter Design?

Are we on the verge of a revolution in putter design?

At some point most things become obsolete. It’s just the way the world works. Evolution. Back in the mid 80’s the cassette tape replaced the 8-track, and if you said you saw that coming you would most likely be lying. Only a decade later (1991) CD sales surpassed cassettes. Now, we carry 1,000’s of songs in our pocket.

In the putter world we had the bullseye (released in 1940’s), that got replaced by the PING Anser in 1966. The Anser became the gold standard and it has held that crown ever since.

But, that reign might be over.

Most golfers know what a traditional putter looks like. Its got a neck and a putter head that looks something like what Tiger used. And while all golfers know what they look like, the majority don’t know why they are designed that way. Those designs are based on something called stroke type. You might have heard the term straight-back-straight-through or slight or strong arc. That’s stroke type. Putters have been made that way for decades and the industry has fit golfers based on individual stroke types for as long as you can probably remember.

But, just because that’s the way things have been done, doesn’t mean it will always be the best solution to the problem. And if it’s no longer the right answer, do all those designs and all those Anser copy cats simply go “poof” just like the 8-track did? And if so, what replaces them?

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Zero torque putters

Ever heard of L.A.B. Golf? You know those crazy looking putters you see guys winning or in contention to win almost every week. They think stroke type is dead, and they might just be on to something. If you don’t want to take my word for it, just look around next year when almost every major manufacturer will have a copy of the L.A.B design. Sound familiar (Anser copy cats)?

The age of zero-torque putters is upon us folks. But, are they the future? Do they truly perform better than all putters that came before them?

Today, we seek to find that answer.

Zero Torque vs Traditional Putters

Are you actually a better putter than you thought? Do “traditional putters” make putting harder than it needs to be?

There are 3 main variables in putting: direction, speed and green reading. Zero Torque putters think they eliminate one of those variables (direction) and make putting 33% easier. They think “traditional putters” make it harder to control the putter head. And I 100% agree. One of the ways the golf industry tries to solve this is by fitting golfers for the proper stroke type that matches their arc.

Getting your club to start and finish square to your target is more difficult than one might think. If your putter face is only 2 degrees off target you will miss a 5-foot putt. At 20-feet, the miss gets even bigger.

Let’s face it, “traditional putters” haven’t really evolved much over the past 60 years. Think about this…would you still want to play a persimmon (wooden) driver if you wanted to shoot your lowest score? Absolutely not. So, why are we still playing with 60-year old technology in our putter if they account for the most shots on our scorecard? At the end of the day a putter has one job: get the ball in the hole in the least amount of shots possible. So, if there is a new and more effective way of doing that for the vast majority of golfers why would we ever look back?

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What we have seen with L.A.B. putters and some other zero torque type putters over the past couple years inside our test facility, on tour and diving through data from other sources has been eye opening to say the least. But, are they the next PING Anser, and could L.A.B. and other zero torque putters like them become the new gold standard in putting? Is it time for you to throw out all those old putters you have been collecting? That is what we want to find out.

In order to do that we wanted to test two of the most popular zero torque putters, the L.A.B DF3 and PXG Allan against two of the most popular and winning “traditional putters” on tour, the Scotty Cameron Newport 2 (100’s of professional tour wins) and the Taylormade Spider Tour X (played by world #1 Scottie Scheffler and Rory McIlroy).

How We Test

For this lab, we wanted to find out two things:

  1. Are zero torque putters better than traditional putters?
  2. Which zero torque putter performs better, the L.A.B. or the PXG Allan?

In order to find out we included 4 putters in our test:

  1. L.A.B DF3
  2. PXG Allan
  3. Scotty Cameron Newport 2
  4. Taylormade Spider X

Our test protocols:

  • Data by: PuttView
  • 10 testers
  • 20 putts per putter
  • Randomized locations and distances
  • 800 total putts

RESULTS: Zero Torque vs Traditional Putters

KEY FINDINGS

  • Both zero torque putters outperformed traditional putters
  • 80% of golfers performed better with zero torque putters
  • 60% of golfers performed best with a L.A.B putter
  • L.A.B. was most accurate putter tested
  • L.A.B. produced highest make %
  • PXG putter ranked 2nd in every category
  • Scotty Cameron ranked last in every category
  • L.A.B. putter was 1.5 strokes better vs Scotty Cameron
  • Biggest improvement for single tester was 6.5 strokes with L.A.B. vs Scotty Cameron

Is Stroke Type Dead?

Might be hard to believe, but one of these days even your beloved Apple Music will be replaced. Just like the CD and the 8-track, that day is coming. Even the most advanced technology can be replaced overnight by new a innovation (R.I.P Blockbuster).

With the emergence of zero torque putters, and specifically the L.A.B. Golf’s designs, we might indeed be witnessing the dawn of a new era in putter technology and design. The evidence from this test not only challenges the long-standing reign of traditional stroke type putter designs but also hints at a paradigm shift in how golfers and the industry might approach putting in the future.

Golfers have spent their whole lives being told that if they just buy the next new driver or training aid it will fix their game. But for decades we have all been left disappointed by nothing more than a gimmick or gadget. This time looks to be different. Name another golf product that can lower 80% of golfers scores by 1.5 strokes by doing nothing more than changing from one product to another? I’ll wait.

As the data indicates, the performance improvements could and probably should render conventional stroke-type putters obsolete in the near future. But, the question remains: Are you ready to embrace this change, or will tradition hold us back from the next leap in golfing technology?

So, is stroke type officially dead? Well not yet, but it is on life support. People still collect cassette tapes and CD’s but when is the last time you actually saw somebody use one? So, keep collecting them if you want, but just know they will most likely be collecting dust just like your favorite Nirvana Teen Spirit CD.

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      BeTheBall

      3 weeks ago

      Great tests! Bought my dream putter (SC Doublewide) and have made NO more putts per round and very frustrated esp at a 6 index. This has led me to try these ugly things out, have you done a no torque best putters tests yet? I was messing w a new Odessey double wide no torque ai and made a LOT of putts but so ugly, as a strong arc putter doesnt seem these would be for me? please do a tests…

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      Jeff D

      1 month ago

      In a perfect round of golf you would use your putter 36 times and you the rest of your clubs hitting the other 36 shots. But what do we amateurs do? We spend tons of time on the range but little time on chipping and putting. maybe the industry needs to get off of the distance is king thing and go back to helping people learn to score.

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      Laz

      4 weeks ago

      No one would consider a 36 putt round even close to perfect. If your shooting par with 36 putts, range time is certainly what you need as youre not putting the ball close enough to the hole on approach.
      But I do understand what you’re trying to say.

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      joselo

      2 months ago

      these putters have been on the shelf for some time now,
      people will try them and love them or hate them…. looks influence a lot and they are definitely ugly

      look at drivers, manufacturers make one ‘NEW’ every year, more shiny and techy, and people go out and buy it because they are cool and they perform, there is no end of an era in drivers, and there wont be for putters, traditional putters are there because they perform and they have awesome designs

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      Trusty Rusty

      4 months ago

      I just made some popcorn and I’m waiting for the scottie fan boys to chime in how wrong you are in your test in between sniffles……Actually I realized the zero torque or high MOI in putters were perfect for me several years ago. Never looked back. Keep up the good work guys!

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      Dave

      4 months ago

      ZERO TORQUE – it IS where it’s at … Nearing age 62, I’ve been making my own putters for over 45 years … This son of a machinist that was a poor junior putter has always sought a better mousetrap to “fix” my poor putting … I’d tried most everything & certainly this “zero torque” idea IS the best solution I’ve come across over time … When Cameron introduced their Futura Phantom mallet in 2007, I felt certain the market would swing that direction despite a few flaws I perceived in their product … I had been making a near enough looking putter for myself & some friends since about 2000 … For some reason, it’s taken the industry 20-ish years to catch on – and I’m certain it will continue evolving … I will be interested to see how long it takes for a maker to figure out the pure / true roll aspect I incorporated … I never bothered coming up with the catchy marketing names, just knew what the tool would do … (smile) … F.W.i.W. – Although my putting has improved some with the technology & practice, sadly it never approached the level of the rest of my game – so I remain a “player” wannabe that still enjoys the chase for improvement … #stillsearching … Golf on all!!

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      JKE

      5 months ago

      To use the DF3 putter properly, it’s essential to watch the video of Lab CEO Sam Hahn with Eric Cogorno on Youtube regarding the thumbs-off drill and forward ball placement.

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      John Shaw

      5 months ago

      I think the most important thing with getting a putter is being properly fitted with SAM puttlab or similar. This will give you the best putter/hosel combination for you to line up the putter. A lot of people struggle to do this due to optical issues. If you can’t line up the face the chances of sinking putts is low as the face is more important than path.

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      Jeff

      5 months ago

      Wasn’t sure when I first tried LAB back in 2016, original DF. Couldn’t get over the looks and didn’t fully accept there was a difference and never made the necessary adjustments to get the benefits from zero torque. The sound, the feel, the harassment from EVERYONE. I became insecure and sold the putter. I was still intrigued by the tech and knew it was legit. Decided I didn’t care about the looks and did the online fitting for a DF3 this past spring. I accepted I needed to make some adjustments to truly allow zero torque to do its thing. I’m sure glad I did. I tinkered with different hand position, ball position, etc. and found something that was simple, and most importantly, repeatable. I have stopped tinkering, I step in the same way and pull the trigger. The confidence I have acquired with the DF3 has allowed me to just let it go. Something that took me a minute to adjust to were starting lines. For years I played more break and it actually hurt me with the DF3 early on. There was an adjustment period accepting and realizing that I was consistently hitting my starting lines and I needed to stop giving the hole away. This is the first putter where I’ve never questioned if it was the “right” putter for my stroke BS. It really doesn’t matter with LAB. Yes, you have to have a mostly functional stroke but it doesn’t need to be perfect. The coolest thing about LAB is that the occasional bad feel off the face comes from overuse of the hands and too much face rotation. It actually provides instant feedback, it’s sorta like a training aid reminding you to let the putter do its thing. I completely understand the crowd of it’s too ugly, doesn’t feel good, the sound, etc. I was one of them, until I wasn’t.

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      Dave Sanguinetti

      5 months ago

      Definition of Lie angle balance is- Balancing(or maintaining little or no twisting from a perpendicular state) the face of the putter to the extremely upright lie angle that L.A.B. employs. A standard for Arc builds is Length optional- lie 70*, loft 3*. Lie angle style putters start at fitting to comfortable arm hang length-length, lie 72* or more, and a loft of between 1 and 2*, depending on how much forward lean you deliver in your stroke. The current line up is L.A.B. , Axis, PXG, SQ putters-currently NO ONE ELSE has a lie balanced putter in their arsenal, and if they say they do they are either lyiing or stupid. When I began my personal quest to call out Scotties for what they are great copy cats, with the finest materials, and quality, and creating a 400$ price point for Zero stroke enhancing putters, everyone called me nuts or jealous or worse! What I learned you can apply to arc style putters and make them more like a lie balanced club. I found an old Oydessey 2-ball double bend that had a heavy broomstick shaft, and a very heavy head(400+ gms ). It glided when stroked. and tracked very straight. I noticed it was even easier to stroke when I pushed my hands forward causing the lie to be more upright. I put a very heavy grip from Winn on it(126 gms) and effectively counterbalanced the putter, as I had cut it to 34 & 1/2 ” playing length. It weighed a whopping 730 gms, but felt like a feather when I stroked it. It putted itself leaving me only to think— SEE HOLE, HIT HOLE. It allowed me to understand that for me the back of my left hand was the clubface and where my hand went so went the ball. This is essentially the motto of L.A. B. golf— clear your mind and focus solely on swinging the putter to the hole. Hope my story inspires you to try lie balanced as I am now a superior putter, and one other thing — I’m 81 and not delusional!!!!!

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      Carlos

      5 months ago

      My Golf Spy please archive all these comments. In 5 years revisit this post. Golfers are resistant to the change in the beginning, then golfers will accept the change, and then golfers will embrace the change as if it was a no brainer. Just like 8 track tapes…golfers will act like they were forward thinking from the start.

      I play with the DF2.1 (first generation)

      Yes, I have bad putting days. But you have to retrain your stroke. We have been using our hands to torque the ball into the hole thousands and thousands of time. It’s not easy removing that from a putt stroke.

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      Really Young Tom Morris

      5 months ago

      One of the flaws of this test was comparing a blade Scotty Cameron with mallet putters. A better comparison would’ve been between the Newport 2 and the L.A.B. Link.1 or between the DF3 and one of the Phantom putters.

      Also, blade irons aren’t obsolete.

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      Noel

      5 months ago

      Can someone please reach out to Odyssey and have them relaunch the Backstryke putter line. I have tried and they never even got back to me. I have been gaming the Backstryke 2-Ball since 2010. Call me crazy but I sold my Scotty Cameron Delmar because I found something that worked. For years, people looked at my goofy putter and laughed but that quickly stopped after they saw me make putts from all over. I believe Odyssey launched the Backstryke putters a decade too early. Thanks to LAB, they made zero torque putters cool again. I would love to have some modern technology but until Odyssey remakes a new Backstryke, I will continue to game my 14 year old putter. I would be curious how an Odyssey Backstryke putter (can be picked up used for around $60-$100) would compete against LAB DF3 and PXG Allen. The article can call it the poor man’s zero torque putter.

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      Tyler

      5 months ago

      if i had to guess they’re going to release a backstryke jailbird this year…

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      Clay Nicolsen

      3 weeks ago

      Still have my Backstryke. When I first bought it, it was magic. You pull it back, let go, and the ball goes dead down the line. It was amazing! Then, for some silly reason, I moved on to the “next newest best thing”.

      Gonna put my Backstryke back in the bag. Cheaper than a new LAB!!

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      sam

      5 months ago

      I think that in the last 60 years, very little has been done on putter technology, but I had the LAB and used it for almost a year. In the end, out of desperation, I sold it. I don’t want to say that the LAB isn’t an innovative product, it is, but it is a really different putter and one that can really cause problems. The positioning of the hands, the position of the ball, and, paradoxically, the alignment are not very simple. I had a good fitting done on the putting and in the end the fitter, candidly, told me that we had found the right putter for the game, but that if I didn’t know how to read the slopes and the force was wrong, the putter wouldn’t have fixed it. Now I use a 15 year old Odissey and I have to admit that, in the end, I haven’t gotten worse. In the end, I think that the new putters are very efficient on fast and perfect greens, but the greens aren’t always at their best and in this case the “old” putters are better

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      Vishal

      5 months ago

      I think Honu putter will also be in the same category of zero torque.

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      Lou

      5 months ago

      All of the Odyssey models you mention had torque in their swing. If you take your putter and lay the shaft over one hand and turn the grip in a rotary motion you will feel the head flip over regardless of blade or mallet design. The weight falls over at some point. Then try it with a LAB putter at the store, it just rotates smoothly. It eliminates the door closing effect we have learned over the years and the timing to accurately perform it.

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      Kris B.

      5 months ago

      I’ll tell you what will gain you more strokes than a $500 putter, especially for the average golfer. Practice. I’ve made an increase effort to practice my putting (using an older Rife Guerin blade putter) and I’ve gained a little more than two strokes just this year. And it didn’t cost me a thing.

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      BeTheBall

      5 months ago

      Wonder where the Mezz Max would end up? Is the DF3 that much more stable/anti twist/ MOI?

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      JJ

      5 months ago

      It cost you a year of practice

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      Michael

      3 months ago

      But this was 2 strokes better than a traditional putter without any practice. If your baseline is two strokes immediately, and practice can get you 2 more, aren’t you still 2 strokes ahead at the end of the year with the zero torque> In theory>

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      Robin

      5 months ago

      I have at least 15 putter’s . I bought a Scotty with a 36 inch shaft .
      I have never bought a putter that has absolutely no feel its the worst putter I ever bought.
      It’s all about the name, and the name doesn’t make putts.

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      Phillip

      5 months ago

      So which models out there are balanced putters? None of the websites distinguish that. It’s just blades or mallets.

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      Graham Davis

      5 months ago

      All L.A.B. golf putters.

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      Dave

      5 months ago

      LAB and Axis1 are the leaders. Edel have some too, plus the new PXG one

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      Brian

      5 months ago

      Definitely interested in one of these. Have you compared the df3 to the mezz model?

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      Henry F

      5 months ago

      I too am really curious to know this comparison between the Mezz/Mezz Max and the DF3/2.1.

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      Graeme

      5 months ago

      During my custom fit for DF3 tried all lab golf putters and even roll. Mezz and df3 performed exactly the same. Only difference was on looks. I preferred DF3 on alignment and choice of t-line on top. Both Mezz and DF3 are significantly better to roll putts. I’m 2hcap and average putts was 31.2 before lab and now 28.6. Make % from 6-10ft up from 27% to 45%

      Cliff

      5 months ago

      I have both the DF3, and the Mezz max, and the DF3 if without question more forgiving. Both great putters, but the DF3 is a little easier for me. You just remember to keep a super light grip, and it just goes straight.

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      Mr Ed

      5 months ago

      Is it exclusively LAB? Or is it the center shaft? That seems to be the most obvious difference between the putters.

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      Tom

      5 months ago

      Was the tester with 6.5 strokes gained a slender guy with curly black hair and horned rim glasses?

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      Lance Sedevie

      5 months ago

      I tried a df3 stock configuration for about a month. Struggled pushing short putts to the point I had to sell it. Messed with ball position but couldn’t remedy the push. Long distance control was fabulous for me. They are the smoothest swinging putter and soft face upon impact. I think I’d need a fitted option

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      Ronald E. Krauser

      5 months ago

      I tried the LAB putter on more than one occasion. It is just too heavy and bulky for me. The stock grips are also too large for my hands.

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      BQS4

      5 months ago

      The only thing that truly matters in putting is confidence. You could put the best, most high-tech putter in a scratch golfer’s hands, but Brad Faxon could still beat him rolling the rock with a sand wedge – because he has the confidence to do it (among other things). Confidence can’t be bought, as the 10 drivers and 15 putters in your garage already prove. Will the Lab make you a better putter? Yeah, just like that new set of irons made you a better ball striker. All that said, one of my golfing buddies is a sh*t putter and the Lab helped him become a little less sh*tty. Maybe it will help, who knows?

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      Derek

      5 months ago

      Odyssey has had numerous models that have similar balance points as ‘Zero Torque’. Backstryke, Toe Up and others are examples of this. Placing the shaft in a difference CG position is not new and groundbreaking. LAB have done a great job of marketing something that has already been done.

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      Vito

      5 months ago

      Isn’t the zero torque putter similar to what Tommy Armour brought out in the 90’s with the ZAAP putters? I thought there were others even before TA but my memory is fuzzy.

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      Sven

      5 months ago

      I think the old Plop putter is lie angle balanced. I have one from the mid-90’s when I flirted with putting left handed. Plop was usable either way.

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      todd

      5 months ago

      100%

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      Brian Manzella

      5 months ago

      They were trying to do something very similar.

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      John

      5 months ago

      May be a dumb question but what the difference between the LAB and the Odyssey Ai One Jailbird Cruiser? I currently game a Tri Hot 5K Double Wide Blade which I love. Immediately saw a difference in strokes gained off putting (coming from an original Ping Anser). The mallets always intrigued me but could never pull the trigger, hence the double wide blade. Recently tried out the Jailbird Cruiser and I couldn’t believe how good it felt and how the putts held their line. Almost felt like cheating. Wasn’t sure how I would feel about the 38” shaft as my gamer is a 34”. But it seemed to have more stability choking down on the grip. I guess my question is what’s the main difference between the LAB and Jailbird Cruiser? Sorry for the novel in advance but I’m deep down in the rabbit hole over here lol

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      JL

      5 months ago

      Interesting test. As always, I have questions. In the LAB video attached to the article, the guy is able to keep the head still in the stroke by simple putting his thumb on the shaft. So my question is, if only a small amount of force is required to keep the still in your hands, how much influence does it have on a player’s ability to return the clubface to square. I would love to see how much more variability in the delivery of the putter head there is with traditional putters than there is with a LAB putter. Secondly, the LAB putters didn’t exactly shoot the lights out in the Mallet testing. The LAB narrowly edged the Spider in the larger test so I wonder what was different here. Thanks to MGS for doing the test to keep us questioning things and keeping our minds open.

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      James C

      5 months ago

      The Most Wanted tests don’t adequately capture the benefits of LAB. It’s too different to everything else the testers are trying & everyone has a lifetime of compensating for the torque generated by toe hang.

      Long story short – I play a LAB Mezz and really struggled with it for the first 2-3 rounds because of that adjustment. But now I’m 18 months in and putt better than ever at age 44. It’s just easier. People ask about it constantly when they see how well I roll it.

      Tour players are a lagging indicator – they’re the guys who use the existing equipment better than anyone else. Same reason you see most players still using DG X100 shafts & they’re still transitioning to mallets long after amateurs.

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      JL

      5 months ago

      If the Most Wanted Test doesn’t capture the benefits of LAB then this test wouldn’t either unless the testers practiced with the LAB putter to get used to not compensating, as you say. As much as making putts seems like the gold standard for a putting test, I think seeing Quintic Ball roll launch data would be a better way to determine if Lie Angle Balanced putters make it easier for players to deliver the clubface more to consistently. As I understand it, that is what Lie Angle Balanced putters are supposed to do; help prevent a player from fighting the opening and closing of the face. LAB putters should deliver a more consistent face angle than traditionally designed putters. Those that have done detailed putter fittings like Edel or Quintic know that there are a number of reasons why we miss putts. Some putters just don’t fit our eye and we end up aiming them a few degrees off target even when they look square at address. If we want to know if Lie Angle Balanced designs are truly superior, we need to know if the design is accomplishing what it is intending to do, returning the face to the same position at impact, consistently. The LAB and the PXG outperformed in this test, but was it because they were Lie Angle Balanced or were they just better designed putters just like the Odyssey Rossie outperforms the Cameron Phantom. This test is a great start.

      HAC

      5 months ago

      I think this points out a flaw in Most Wanted testing. It punishes more innovative clubs that require some adjustment. If there was Most Wanted testing in the 1980s and 1990s, it probably would have rated drivers with wooded heads and stainless steel shafts higher than more modern clubs because most people had to learn how to hit drivers with longer graphite shafts. I think of Martin Hall’s saying that if you keep doing what you are doing you will keep getting what you are getting. I will say that I went with a LAB DF3 earlier this year and really like it. But, even after a season with it, I still am learning new things about how to use it.

      cksurfdude

      5 months ago

      I’m checking out the EvnRoll Zero review. Currently using an ER5, or an MLA mallet, but always very willing to try something that can *help* me okay better golf 👍

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      ctg44

      5 months ago

      I have a Sik DW (double-wide) 2.0 C series putter and the EvnRoll Zero is the first putter series I’ve seen recently that has me interested enough to really consider getting a full-blown putter fitting for something. Once these are more available, I’ll spend some time with them and see what they feel like, but the idea of being able to stay with something similar in shape / size to the Sik and still get better control is tempting. I have tried the LAB and Jailbird options and just can’t get comfortable with either of them, even in fitting environments with the option to have them adjusted for my needs.

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      alex

      5 months ago

      The whole premise seems to be that because the shaft is not centered on traditional putters that there is inertia shifting on the putter head that the user can’t control. On the most gentle stroke in golf. Yet ALL clubs have this same issue right? Are we sure this is an issue? There are lots of solutions that club makers have come up with throughout the bag with sweetspot shifting and weighting etc etc to create ideal contact… Hard to see this as the real problem with most people’s putting.
      I would bet on green reading and speed control over putter face twist as the solution to bad putting every time.

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      Bill

      5 months ago

      Great to see the putter world moving towards performance improvement. Hopefully when the others jump in they will push the envelope even further than LAB has. Nothing against LAB but for many of us not located in a large metropolis trying out or trying to learn about LAB from store front retailers is really difficult. In my area the shop has 2 LAB putters (under lock), probably 10-15 each Oddessey, Taylormade, etc on display. The mid handicap golfer will struggle to get into the technology until it becomes closer to the mainstream.

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      Alex

      5 months ago

      I’m actually pretty interested in zero torque putters and this test really piques my interest. However, you have the LAB putter finishing first definitively in this test, but LAB golf putters haven’t even finished top 3 in your annual putter testing. Why is that? Is it due to your new putt view setup or are there other factors?

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      Riggs

      5 months ago

      I would assume that the putter used in this test where actual fitted for length and lie angle where in best of testing they use all stock options. A balance LAB putter at 70° is no longer balanced when the user is a few degrees off that setting.

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      Sven

      5 months ago

      I think it will be interesting to see how many LAB putters show up on tour next year after the pros get a chance to adapt to a different feel in what off-season they have. Those at the bottom of the strokes gained putting stat would seem to have the greatest incentive to dump what they are used to and change it up ala Lucas Glover. Even Scheffler dumped his blade for a mallet to shore up a shaky part of his game.

      I do think this LAB stuff is the best advancement in putting since the Anser.

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      HiHandy

      5 months ago

      I would love to see Edel and Evenroll involved in a comparison as well

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      Philip

      5 months ago

      Friend switched from Spyder TM to LAB and immediately saw results, he was a shit putter…
      I know another shit putter that just threw $600 at LAB… myself

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      C. Chung

      5 months ago

      Do the other LAB putters fare equally as well against the old putters?

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      Baxngolf

      5 months ago

      Purchased a stunning blue DF3 off the rack a little over a month ago and haven’t looked back. First tourney out of the box had low number of putts for the event (29). Next tourney out won my flight. My stroke can be yippy at times under pressure but the confidence I have now with the flat stick has helped that immensely. Just like Garret above, I have a stable of about 10 putters that will be finding new homes.

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      RyanGi

      5 months ago

      Some great info here. With the upcoming Evnroll Zero testing, there will be even more entries to look at!

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      Luc Lacoursiere

      5 months ago

      I guess I missed the boat then! I bought an Evnroll duo 5.2 this year after a fitting. When I walked in they had the L.A.B. df3 and that’s the first one i picked up to try. Right away the fitter said NO, not going to work for you. Now, I really have to hope that he knew his stuff!

      And I don’t think my putting has really improved with the new putter but I really don’t want to spend another 600$+ for yet another putter…

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      Drifter

      5 months ago

      When Hogan complained about his putt his wife told him to hit it closer. He did and it worked 😂

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      Anthony M

      5 months ago

      I was going to wait to make a decision on my next putter after this article came out, but after testing the stock LAB putters at PGASS, I decided to pull the trigger on a LAB DF3. I’m glad to see that the data confirmed what I was seeing at PGASS. I would have liked to have seen how the Evnroll ERZ Zero (the original one) fared compared to the LAB and PXG

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      Mark J

      5 months ago

      I have always been a Titleist/Scotty Cameron putter user and have four in my garage. My handicap is 5. About 6 months ago I purchased a LAB Mezz.1 Max Broomstick and my putting has improved significantly. Hardly any 3-putts. I have made many long putts and the shorter putts are much easier. The LAB Mezz.1 Broomstick is as close to pendulum putting as it gets. I have no plans to switch back to Scotty Cameron and those four putters in my garage will probably go up for sale soon.

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      Kuso

      5 months ago

      METAL SPIKES are NOT obsolete. We are being BIFURCATED from metal spikes BY FORCE in the amateur world. The Pro Tours allow them. I don’t see why we can’t have metal since we are now allowed to stamp down everything on the greens. The only reason we are being bifurcated is because the industry wants to make MONEY from short-lasting PLASTIC spikes they can sell every couple months as opposed to metal ones that can last way longer.
      How it is an end of an era for putter designs? They can always change the rules like with everything else

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      Howard Barker

      5 months ago

      Hi I live in the UK & I fit metal spikes into my shoes & boots they are great for the greens as they give them a little aeration & don’t leave a big soft spike shape in the greens. When it’s frosty it’s also easier
      to knock off the ice.

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      Dave R

      5 months ago

      Appreciate the test. I’d love to see some of the raw data beyond the 1-4 ranking for each category. I think it was smart of PXG to be the first LAB copycat to hit the market, even if it’s not 100% of the way there.

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      DaveD

      5 months ago

      Too bad the Evnroll ERZ Zero putter wasn’t part of the test, possibly because their Zero line is about to be released to retail. I’ve got a golf buddy that got the ERZ a couple years ago and his putting has improved immensely. I suspect it would have ended up close to the L.A.B. and PXG sticks.

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      george

      5 months ago

      One thing that might hold back take up of these putters for the recreational golfer is the cost.

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      BeTheBall

      5 months ago

      Great test and thank you, I have been wanting this test done as I work at a golf store and we cant keep the DF3 in stock. I assume you used low and high handicappers? Short and long putts? My gamer is SC Squareback and with putting being my worst past of my game, maybe its time. Love to see a df3 vs mezz max in same test? Ive putted w both and like the Mezz Max better BUT if I make more putts w DF3 then thats what matters. Well done.

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      8iron

      5 months ago

      Impressive data given, IMO, most golfers (including me) tune their stroke to their putter (ie their stroke compensates for the lack of lie angle balance and other factors). Moving to a DF3 this week. I’ve read many LAB reviews that users get even better once they learn to trust the technology. Cheers.

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      Joseph Parent

      5 months ago

      Adam, i have always thoroughly enjoyed your commentary, and I think that you have hit the nail on the head. Yes, you still have to be able to read a green, understand speed and distance, but anything that helps you able to concentrate on even one less thing is going to make you a better putter. I can’t tell you how many putters I have had over the years. I currently have a L.A.B. Mez 1 max in both a short version and a broom stick in right hand. They have helped tremendously but my YIPS have won out, not even zero torque can fix the YIPS. I have been putting lefty now for about 2 months and have noticed a marked improvement in my stroke. Obviously since this has been an experiment I have not committed to a higher priced zero torque putter, however when ever I am in a golf store and see a left handed zero torque putter(which is not very often) I give one a go for 20 minutes or more and I will say that I am just about ready to pull the trigger on another L.A.B. Putter, but a left handed model. Again, everything changes and nothing remains the same, but I am all in on anything that will improve my game and let me enjoy what little playing time I may have left!

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      Steve

      5 months ago

      I have used a blade style putter my whole life and really started to struggle putting about 5 years ago constantly changing putters. Through frustration I went and got fitted for the LAB MEZZ 3 years ago, the results could not have been better. There is more confidence and very steady back and through stroke, my GHIN has dropped more than 4 stokes to a 6.2. Most often now is if I miss a putt it was due to the read, not my stroke.

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      Bignose

      5 months ago

      I will start by saying that I can accept that lots of people seem to really jive with the putters. I do not discount the results, both the large number of anecdotes as well as data like presented above.

      I do, however, just wonder how much is being fit well and how much is placebo or confidence (from paying lots of money and being fit).

      Because unlike the full swing, where one is twisting and shifting and needing to apply forces and torques in the right sequence to achieve mostly maximal hit on a lot of swings, putting is speed and line control. Yes, a straight-back-straight-thru putting stroke using the most toe-hangy putter ever requires an application of some torques to keep the face where you want it to be. But we’re not tightening the lug nuts on your car here. We’re not closing a hatch on a flooding compartment of a submarine. A putter head is a few hundred grams. Your hands are capable of torquing that or not-torquing that with very minimal effort.

      Perhaps I am underestimating how much of a difference it makes between ‘very minimal effort’ and ‘no effort’ from having the right LAB for you. I’m just not 100% convinced that the physics says it is that impactful, yet. I will keep watching here; it is very interesting for sure.

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      Athol Hill

      5 months ago

      I think the placebo effect can have an impact, but there are definitely noticeable improvements. I made the mistake of assuming the TPT shaft was purely about improved putting specs on paper, where having tested it now, the difference in feel has made it much easier for me to adapt to changing greens while they have been coring on our course.

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      Peter Allenby

      5 months ago

      Zero torque putters are a huge advance IF your putting stroke is traditional. That is, your body is facing the ball, not the hole. Combine a zero torque putter with bicameral vision and body facing the hole and see what happens! Snead’s croquet style putting stroke in the 1940s was outlawed because it was too accurate – He moved to “side saddle” to comply. I dug up and old Hammy putter in the recesses of the garage as well as a Resso putter. Two eyes facing the intended line are better than one! Using an underhanded grip to power the putter is more natural. Think about this “side-saddle” variation in a L.A.B. putter…!!

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      John Meister

      5 months ago

      Terrific article! Enjoyed your wide-angel perspective and context for change in golf equipment. I am old enough to have used a Bullseye putter with Walter Hagen blades and persimmon wooders.

      I too have recognized a measurable improvement in my putting since trading in my Toulon Memphis for the LAB Mezz Max. Golf is meant to be enjoyed. No turn back for me!

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      Jeff

      5 months ago

      I’ve tried the DF3 and the Mezz.1 and just can’t get behind it. The look standing over it behind the ball, feel and sound are all off-putting to me.

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      Jmoods55

      5 months ago

      Does any of this matter if the person putting can’t read greens and speed worth a darn? Putting is an artform and the best putters in the history of the game used traditional putters without any of this technology.

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      Gordo

      5 months ago

      You’re correct. If you can’t read greens or control speed then you still won’t be a great putter. However you will be a better putter! Even your speed will get better because you won’t be trying to compensate for the torque of traditional putters. You’ll hit the sweet spot more often and as a result improve your speed control.
      You’re also correct that the greatest putters in history used traditional putters. That’s because that’s all there was. Lie Angle putters are relatively new in 20+ years I wonder how many traditional putters will be played by the best golfers in the world. I imagine the same number who are playing a Bullseye today. I’m in the last quarter of my time on this planet and now play a LAB 2.1 I’m a far better putter now than I was in my 20’s.

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      Jmoods55

      5 months ago

      Totally agree with the science being presented, I’m sure on a good stroke these put the ball on a clean, straight line. But for me, putting is about feel and confidence and I personally can’t stand the feel and look of these giant putters and therefore my confidence is less that my now 15 year old Ping Zing. Putting is my strong suit and I’ve tried some other mallets and newer styles and it certainly didn’t help in my case. I’ve literally updated everything in my bag in the last few years, but all the new putters I’ve bought get passed on to my kids and friends because they haven’t helped my putting at all. Just my experience ;)

      SheriffJohnStone

      5 months ago

      of course they used traditional putters.. that was all there was… The best use better technology as it comes along. Nobody playing Hickory shafts anymore…

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      Patrick Wong

      5 months ago

      This is exactly the same results as my real world experience. I switched to a fitted DF3 mid summer comparing 10 rounds preswap and 10 rounds post swap in Arccos, I am +2.7 strokes gained in my putting

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      MarkM

      5 months ago

      L.A.B. putters are only zero torque because of their whole concept – LIE ANGLE BALANCING

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      MarkM

      5 months ago

      … meaning, you have to be fitted or they’re not!

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      Gordo

      5 months ago

      I’m not so sure Mark. I purchased a used LAB DF 2.1 off Kijiji. It was incredible from day 1. A month or so later my putter got crunched in my trunk (lots of wailing, gnashing of teeth and words that aren’t even in a Quentin Tarantino movie) the bore in the head where the shaft attaches had become enlarged and ovalized. Upon reattaching the shaft using epoxy more as a filler than a glue. It had a different lie angle now. Putter was still amazing. Showed up at my Provincial Senior Match play Championship opened up my trunk my putter was in two pieces the fix had failed. Quick trip to Home Depot. 5 minute epoxy.. Reattached the shaft at a different lie angle. Played my match and the putter was still awesome. I’ve played that putter at a number of different lie angles and it always works. Just my experience.

      James

      5 months ago

      but the fitting can be done simply with a video and free feedback ..

      Rob

      5 months ago

      Great article, I have recently picked up a PXG Allan and first round with it was very solid. I am looking at the DF3 or upcoming OZ from LAB and will put them head to head, and decide on one.

      Like Garrett above, time to clear out all my excess putters, before everyone gets wise to them!

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      Leon

      5 months ago

      My experience with DF3 vs Allan: both better than “traditional” models but DF3 feels much better, more consistent direction. Tried the Mezz Max also, which is ok from short range, but with long lags I have to try to hit the ball low on the face to avoid the steel alignment marker on the top edge, which throws all the feel and distance control out the window. Just had my DF3 reweighted from heavy down to standard and don’t foresee anything but another LAB product kicking it out of my bag.

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      Charley Johnson

      5 months ago

      Great article but I am interested in further testing and analysis. I don’t see how you can make the conclusion that stroke type is dead when no consideration was made to the various testers stroke. Only 2 of the stroke types are represented and anecdotally having stroke type putters not suited for 2/3 of the tester pool will drive down their stroke gained statistics.

      I think a better test would be to have a player fitted to a testers’ putter preference then testing that putter against a Zero torque option.

      I know personally as a straight back straight through putter I too would perform badly with the Scotty Cameron and the Spider.

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      Rob

      5 months ago

      @Charley with the large field of testers MGS has and the availability of all stroke type putters, I’d be shocked if those 20 testers weren’t using the putter to match their stroke type. Perhaps a furthe breakdown of which stroke type Slight Arc or Strong Arc fared any better than the other against the Zero Torque

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      Charley Johnson

      5 months ago

      @rob This is conjecture, they made no mention of matching stroke type prior to testing, or what the stroke type is of the Spider X, if they have different hosels designed for different stroke then comparing the spider and Scotty will have one out of sync.
      Now that LAB is confirmed the preferred zero torque putter I recommend a test of the testers gamer as the control (and set the lowest denominator for Strokes gained). A fitted option to test stroke type theory and a fitted LAB putter to test zero torque theory.

      Rob

      5 months ago

      @Charley, call it conjecture if you will. But I based my comments on knowing some of the testers and what they have told me, and having personally been to the test facility and watched how structured and methodical tests are conducted. I did not witness this test, but have witnessed other putter and driver tests.

      Garrett

      5 months ago

      Great article.

      I do think that the differences between LAB and PXG/Axis 1 should be pointed out. They are not the same.

      I caught the LAB bug about 4 years ago. I saw then how superior they were and proceeded to sell off ALL of my other putters (a collection of 30+, including a Lamb, Bettis, Piretti, Byron Morgan, Lajosi, Camerons, PINGs, ect).

      I believe all OEMs make amazing clubs from LW-Driver. But as far as putters go, I wouldn’t look at anything other than a LAB. I literally cannot imagine how anyone else might make a superior putter than them.

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      Leon

      5 months ago

      I also tried an Axis1 because it won Olympic gold in Rio in Justin Rose’s hands. YUK! No feel at all, almost like it was telling me I was using it to do something for which it was not designed LOL !!! But then, there are those folks who LOVE anchovies on their pizza too … ???

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