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OMG! Did you just see that?

OMG! Did you just see that?

OMG! Did you just see that?

What…how…give me another one.  I have to see that again!

The reaction is almost always the same.  No matter what the age and regardless of the handicap, this golf product seems to perform the same magic trick over and over again. But, I bet the majority of you have never heard if it, and almost guaranteed to have never played one.

We had heard about this magic trick hundreds of times over the years.  That in combination with all the commentary on the death of golf, gave us an idea.

Could a single product not only cure the biggest problem golfers admit to having in surveys but also help save the game at the same time?

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Warning:  This product up to this point has been considered taboo to talk about in foursomes much less put in play.

80-90% of golfers admit to having struggled with a slice sometime in their life. FACT.

But, what if there was a product that could reduce that number to just 5%?

There is.

“But this is cheating.”   “It defeats the purpose of golf.”

All valid points.  But at MyGolfSpy, we don’t make the rules, we test golf products.  We are also passionate advocates for the game.  100% Pro-Consumer. That being said, we know that the fastest way to have a golfer become a golfer for life is for that golfer to do 3 things:  Hit one on the screws, get his/her first par and making a birdie.

The faster a golfer does these 3 things, the faster they become golfers for life and the faster our game grows.

And what is legal and what isn’t is quite arbitrary if we are being completely honest.  Harrison Shotmaker, reduced slices by up to 45%, totally legal.  Oversize drivers, allowing for much longer and straighter drives, totally legal.  Literally rocket science golf ball technologies implemented by Titleist, Bridgestone, Snell, all totally legal.  This dimple pattern on this ball, totally illegal.  Why?  You will have to take that up with the USGA.

That brings us back to the test.  We have 500,000 golfers that trust MyGolfSpy every single month.  We take equipment testing extremely seriously.  That being said, we hope all the foot wedge haters and mulligan shamers can keep an open parachute just long enough to take a look at the data and consider the possible implications. After that, feel free to express your rage, utter contempt ands distaste for anything that might ruin the game you so love.  Just remember many of the products in your bag right now have walked a fine line between legal and illegal over the past 50 years.

The Test

Andrew Rice a Team MyGolfSpy Member and one of the most highly acclaimed golf teachers in the world was just as curious.  So we had him perform the same test as well. The information you see below is the data collected from this exact test.

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“I have never before seen anything in golf, from training aids to equipment innovation, that has had such a direct positive effect on the outcome of any golf shot as the Polara XD golf ball.” – Andrew Rice (Team MyGolfSpy Member)

In my opinion this ball has the ability to change the way golfers are introduced to the game. Imagine using a ball that only flies straight off the tee box for your first dozen rounds? We are talking serious enjoyment here. Who wouldn’t want to hit shots that self-corrected in mid-flight?

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TEST #1 – Polara XD Ball

Ball Tested: Polara XD Golf Ball
Claim: Up to 50% reduction of hook and slice & equal distance to top-selling golf balls on market
Testers: 6
Shots: 48 per ball type

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HOW WE TESTED

Each test subject hit balls in varying order. They hit four of one type, four of another, four of another and started the order again until they had hit 8 shots with each ball. Players used there own club and were all standout NCAA Div 1 golfers (except for myself).

They were told to hit the same fade/slice with every swing and to start the ball at the target and try to shape it away from the target. Distances were plotted using a marker and a range finder. * Excessive slices or pulls/draws were eliminated from the data.

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FINAL RESULTS: Polara XD:

Polara XD: (38 kept shots) 262.3 yds and 5.2 yds average right of the target line.

Ball A: (37 shots kept) 263.0 yds and 14.0 yds average right of target line.

Ball B:  (36 shots kept) 262.8 yds and 10.9 yds average right of the target line.

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Observations (Test #1):

One of the top amateurs in the country said that after hitting the Polara and moving back to “Ball A” “It so nice to see a ball go right!”

The difference was noticeable to all players and they all commented about how the ball seemed to wiggle itself straight. They almost all asked if the ball was legal.

I would very much encourage higher handicap golfers to play with this ball as the increase in control and enjoyment would only serve the growth of the game. As you can tell, I am high on the Polara XD, but, for all of the wrong reasons, I don’t believe it will gain much of a following. Golfers want the most out of their equipment, but they don’t want to open themselves up to the derision of their playing partners or feel like they’re cheating. And this ball will make you feel like you’re cheating!

My take: If you’re an 18 handicap or higher golfer you should be playing this ball! Golf is a game and we play games for entertainment and enjoyment. It really was so much fun ripping drivers without any concern for the ball veering off-line. At the very least give it a try…

* MyGolfSpy and Andrew Rice have no affiliation with the Polara Golf Ball company.

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TEST #2 – Polara Ultra Straight

Ball Tested: Polara US Golf Ball
Claim: Up to 75% reduction of hook and slice
Testers: 6
Shots: 48 per ball type

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HOW WE TESTED

Each test subject hit balls in varying order. They hit four of one type, four of another, four of another and started the order again until they had hit 8 shots with each ball. Players used there own club and were all standout NCAA Div 1 golfers (except for myself).

They were told to hit the same fade/slice with every swing and to start the ball at the target and try to shape it away from the target. Distances were plotted using a marker and a range finder. * Excessive slices or pulls/draws were eliminated from the data.

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FINAL RESULTS: Polara  Ultimate Straight:

Polara US: 2.6 yds RIGHT of target line (39 measured shots)

Ball 1: 17.8 yds RIGHT of target line (37 measured shots)

Ball 2: 14.7 yds RIGHT of the target line (38 measured shots)

We recruited six skilled golfers to hit the shots on a steamy and wind-less day. All the golfers have handicaps below five and were purposefully trying to hit a slice that started down the target line and veered right. All shots were hit with the provided Polara 12 degree Stiff shafted driver.

Tester Comments:

  • “It’s literally impossible to curve this ball!”
  • “Is this legal?”
  • “No matter what I do, I cannot slice it.”
  • “Silly straight!”

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OBSERVATIONS (Test #2):

The Polara US flew at about half the height of the other two and as a result the carry was significantly less. That being said the total distance was not significantly different as the two standard balls all stopped quickly. The two standard balls seemed to suffer from being hit with such a lofted driver and flew overly high, which was to be expected. The Polara had almost as many shots finish left of the line as it did to the right. It really was impossible to curve – quite amazing actually!

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      john

      7 years ago

      im not a professional golfer just a weekender golfer these polara balls had brought my handicap down five strokes guess me or my handicap are ilegal but you know what im having great fun thanks polara for helping my game

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      darren g

      9 years ago

      i find the comments hilarious, the person paying for the round of golf should be able to decide what ball, what club, glove, etc they want to use .when someone starts paying me or my buddies to play golf then they can decide what they want us to use. i keep a few sleeves in my bag for my friends cause there are times they get so frustrated they just want to walk off the course. The old saying is “if you cant play good , play fast”, its a lot easier to play fast when your drives are in play. let people use what they want to use, golf is for everyone, not just those who think they are related to the inventors of the game , haha. Thanks Dave for making this game more enjoyable for us hackers

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      bigblast

      9 years ago

      Tried em, like hitting a rock not to mention30-50 yards behind a prov1

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      David Felker

      9 years ago

      BigBlast – I suspect you were using a 7-9 degree driver along with the Ultimate Straight ball and your swing characteristics are such that you naturally generate less spin than the average player. The US ball is designed to have half the lift of a normal ball. This means the ball will fly considerably lower, but using a higher loft club solves the problem. The lift a golf ball generates is a function of the spin rate and ball speed – higher spin means higher lift. So if have a terrible slice and your objective is to immediately eliminate the slice, then I suggest you increase the loft of your driver by 3-4 degrees and you will hit the Polara Ultimate Straight about as far as you hit any golf ball. If you only have a moderate or occasional slice, then use the Polara XD ball and as MyGolfSpy testing shows, you will hit the ball just as long as any other ball AND you will enjoy the 58% reduction in slice or hook dispersion.
      Enjoy the game!

      PS. If you are not happy with the Polara balls you purchased, just contact us and we will be happy to refund your purchase price. We have a money back guarantee on all of our products. See the website for details…

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      Jake C

      9 years ago

      I think this is awesome. If this brings more people to the course, and has more of them leave happy, then it will help all of us, even the naysayers. If it speeds up play because people aren’t looking for balls for 20 minutes even better.
      Yes, if you have a handicap you cannot use this ball. Guess what 90% of golfers that I know don’t have a handicap. So get off the high horse. It’s a game. However you have fun doing it, that’s all that matters. All I ask from a golfer who is not in a USGA competition, or playing for money, or a pro, is that they play quickly, repair divots, and fix ball marks because that affects all who play the course. Tom and Shane S, I suspect you would be the same experiences golfer who yells at a beginner for looking for their ball in the woods and slowing you down. You probably even hit into them. Well, this solves that problem and harms you in no way I can see. Get over yourselves. It is rec. golf not international diplomacy.

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      PLAY GREAT GOLF

      9 years ago

      Cool post so much :/

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      Golfer4-52yrs

      9 years ago

      I am a USGA member and know that anyone playing in a USGA sanctioned event or in an event where the participants agree to play strictly to the USGA rules should obey the USGA rules, which means it is a given that you can’t play the Polara balls. So why is it that so many keep calling the Polara Golf balls illegal? They are only illegal if played when the USGA rules apply and why would anyone do that unless they are going to cheat and since the ball is clearly marked Polara, you would be caught by your playing partners?? One of the current most popular ways to cheat that I see a lot of in a handicap events are the sandbaggers- I think these guys are the worst cheaters. You can shave the face of your club to get the CT to 300 and nobody will know if you do it right, but why cheat like that? There are lots of ways to cheat besides using Polara Balls – Pirate balls, Bang Golf Driver, Polara drivers, DTG Felon wedges, long putters (anchoring), deepen your grooves, lengthen your shaft, … but why do this when you know you are breaking the rules? The “illegal” equipment is really “game-improvement” equipment and there are a lot of golfers who need this stuff. I am not saying it is for everyone, but I am also saying it is not fo no one. all the nonconforming equipment is meant for golfers not playing to USGA rules – so they are kind of like guns. If you target practice or hunt with them, no issue, If you use a gun to rob a bank, big issue.
      There are two sets of rules whether you like it or not – USGA and all the other rules golfers play to. The USGA is not going to bifurcate their rules, so the rest of golfers simply do what they want. And I am OK with that. I don’t need anyone to tell me how to golf with my friends who can’t break 100, we can figure it out ourselves. Do you really want a bunch of guys who shoot 100 to all of a sudden play strictly to the USGA Rules – THIS WOULD RUIN GOLF. So stop with the “illegal” BS. And frankly, I think the golfers who get up on their soap box and cry about “illegal” are probably the same golfers who say they are a 15 and really are a 9 – I hate these $^##@@ sandbaggers. Golf is a game of honor. Nothing wrong with taking 5 Mulligans per round if that’s what you need, but don’t agree to 4 per round and then take a 5th when nobody is looking. Nothing wrong with playing a felon wedge or any other thing that gives you an advantage, just tell people you are doing it and if they are OK with it (which they will be 99% of the time when you are not playing to the USGA rules) then go ahead. The fact that MGSpy tested the Polara balls is a good thing so people know they exist and work as advertised. If you play to USGA rules, then the article was interesting but irrelevant to you. If you don’t follow the USGA rules, then maybe you should play the balls if you want because the USGA rules are irrelevant to you.
      Let’s play golf and stop debating something that not worth taking about.

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      Joseph Kaiser

      9 years ago

      Tom S, I get the impression that had you been playing at the time of the featherie, you might have quit golf in a huff because everybody started using the gutta?

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      Tom S

      9 years ago

      Hi Joseph. You’re a funny guy. In my earlier posts, I don’t recall threatening to quit golf because of this ball.

      I happen to believe that the game of golf is defined in a book called “The Rules of Golf” which is published every four years as a joint effort between the United States Golf Association and the Royal and Ancient Golf Club of St. Andrews, Scotland. That is how one plays golf. If you’re not playing the way that book says, then you are not playing golf; you are playing some other game. Now there’s nothing wrong with playing some other game. You can of course go play whatever game you want. Just don’t call it “golf”. Because it isn’t.

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      Golfer4-52yrs

      9 years ago

      Tom – With all respect to your uninformed elitist position on golf, I think you have things turned around – the USGA Rules only apply to serious golf competitions – read the USRGA Rule book and you will see this. What does a Saturday golfer do if he breaks “USGA Rule 1.3 Agreement to Waive a Rule”? The penalty is “disqualification” – does he go home? There are many forms of golf and fyi the majority of golfers now, and for all of golf history, have played golf as a leisure activity, not according to the USGA Rules. What you are talking about is the “golf-OEM advertising-revenue-driven big-money professional sport” form of golf, not the only form of golf. Read the history of golf. Understand the major changes in the equipment, attire, rules and etiquette over time. Understand the handicap system and why it was invented for golf.Then come back and tell me there is only one form of golf. Or were golfers completely lost for the 300-400 yrs before the USGA ever published a set of rules?

      Tom S

      9 years ago

      Hi Golfer4. You are pretty funny too!

      > the USGA Rules only apply to serious golf competitions

      No, that is the fallacy of which our “friend” Dave is trying to convince you. But it is incorrect. If you have a USGA handicap, those rules apply to you. If you don’t follow the Rules of Golf, you cannot post the score for Handicap purposes. If you have a handicap, you are expected (and in fact required) to play by the Rules of Golf.

      > What you are talking about is the “golf-OEM advertising-revenue-driven big-money professional sport” form of golf

      No, I am talking about “golf”.

      > Understand the handicap system and why it was invented for golf.

      Oh, I understand the handicap system very well, thank you. I understand raw differentials, how they are rounded into full differentials, why we use our 10 best of our last 20 rounds, where the 96 percent originated, and the logic (as well as the math) behind tournament adjustments. I have been Handicap Chairman at two different clubs. I also understand that only rounds played in conformance with the USGA Rules can be posted for handicap purposes. Rounds played with illegal equipment cannot be posted for handicap purposes. If your Handicap Chairman allows rounds with illegal equipment to be part of your handicap, he needs to re-read the Handicap Manual because he’s not doing his job properly.

      Joseph K

      9 years ago

      Tom, thanks for the compliment. Unlike you, I meant to be funny.

      How about if I play with the ball, the rest of my foursome is okay with it, and I don’t post my score. Will your sphincters relax?

      Harv

      9 years ago

      Hey guys, I really like the comments, but lets try to look at the controversy this way. If you and your buddies want to play some backyard football, do you measure the air pressure in the football to be 12.5-13.5 psi before you play? Of course not!
      If you play football with a nerf football and not a NFL or NCAA football, does that mean you can’t enjoy the game? See my point.
      Polara is not the only company that offers a straight ball, there are others, I’d like to see the results of the Wilson and other companies as well.

      Tom S

      9 years ago

      > If you and your buddies want to play some backyard football, do you measure the air pressure in the football to be 12.5-13.5 psi before you play?

      I think Brady does.

      GreenDoor

      9 years ago

      So if it had been Titleist to develop a ball with the Polara’s flight characteristics and found a way to secure USGA approval, would we even be having this conversation? I don’t fault the USGA for trying to maintain the traditions of the game, whatever that even means anymore, but I do fault them for holding the game hostage in this dangerous middle ground between traditional and modern standards of fun.

      Bottom line is, and pardon my extreme selfishness here, I don’t care what you play with, as long as it either enables you to play faster or frustrates you to quite altogether. It took me 2 hours and 50 minutes to play 9 holes on a weeknight at a local muni last week, and I was playing solo. I watched as the group in front of the group in front of the group in front of me spent 35 minutes to complete a short par 4 (and this wasn’t even a juniors league;-) I would have jumped them, but there were slow groups in front of them which left nowhere to jump to.

      Time is my most precious commodity and I have to be very deliberate in how I spend it. So either make the game so hard only sadists will want to play it or so easy that everyone can play it quickly, or both; don’t really care. Just lead us out of this middle ground which is only frustrating everyone.

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      Harv

      9 years ago

      I love the fact that Dave F. and his company Polara took a risk and developed something that allows customers to choose. I’m sure they invested a lot of cash in R&D and bringing this product to the market. More than a confidence builder for high handicap people, it saves time…..I played golf yesterday with two visitors from out of town, they lost 46 balls together in our 18 hole marathon. At times, they were hitting 7 off the tee. Get the point…. I carry this ball along with other branded balls in our gold stores and allow the customer to make the choice. Fellow golfers, try and take it easy on the comments made towards Dave, he’s a respectable business man who has created something different. I applaud his efforts, I’m sure he needs feedback from all angles but golf is game of class as well, so try your best to act professional towards their company.

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      Juan Morales

      9 years ago

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      Matt

      9 years ago

      The next (or future) MyGolfSpy Labs should involve what happens if you strengthen or weaken lofts of irons (Super Game Improvement, Game Improvement, Players and Blades)

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      Kyle Gardner

      9 years ago

      Are these balls legal or no?

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      Dave

      9 years ago

      They can’t be played in the US Open, but they do conform to the USRGA.org rules.

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      Tom S

      9 years ago

      Kyle,

      No, they are not legal. If you have a USGA handicap, scores made with this ball cannot be posted for handicap purposes.

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      Tom Pearce

      9 years ago

      About 18 months ago a club pro gave my son & I one of these to try. I’m a high ball hitter, my son hits on a lower trajectory. Neither of us could hit it higher than about 25 feet. It simply dove for the ground and went nowhere. Decided it was a bad idea with lousy design.

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      Dave Felker

      9 years ago

      Tom – You must have been playing the Polara Ultimate Straight ball. It is designed for the golfer who has a terrible slice. The physics of the ball is completely different from a standard golf ball. The ball has half of the lift of a normal golf ball. That is why it flew so low for you and your son. However, if you used a 12 degree driver or a 3-wood (which is what we recommend for this ball) you end up raising the launch angle by 3-6 degrees, increase the spin by 200-600 rpm and now the ball flies about like the trajectory of a normal ball with normal distance – except it eliminates ~80% of the slice or hook. For the recreational golfer with a bad slice, this product is a miracle. For the serious golfers playing behind the recreational golfers, this ball is a God-send.

      BTW, the Polara XD ball corrects 50% of any slice or hook and has as much distance as any ball on the market.

      Thanks,
      Dave Felker
      Founder & CTO
      Polara Golf

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      andrew

      9 years ago

      thank you Mr. Felker for the reply- good to know industry types are listening to what we have to say…

      JasonS

      9 years ago

      I feel these would be great for there intended market. Those people who only play once or twice a year, don’t put much time into it, and don’t strive to be a better golfer. It will allow them to play their round without loosing a ton of balls and getting frustrated. I, however, would never use these (other than hitting one or two, messing around with friends) because I do strive to be a better golfer, with a goal of a single digit handicap (maybe even scratch.) I’m much more interested in a swing that doesn’t slice than a ball that doesn’t slice!!

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      JasonS

      9 years ago

      However, I wouldn’t suggest these for beginners.. It would be like taking steroids the first time you workout, once you see how strong you are with them, you never want to be without them. when a beginner starts with them, they may find it unnecessary to fix their swing because they already have a fix to their slice, and wouldn’t want to play without them.

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      Dave Felker

      9 years ago

      Another perspective that a growing number of PGA Professionals are finding is that giving a Polara ball to a beginner is the best thing you can do because you immediately lower the frustration and embarrassment level, so the new golfer can have more fun. 85% of golfers play for fun, not for the purpose of getting better so they can play in serious golf tournaments. I believe we need to encourage everyone who takes up golf to first have fun. Some fraction of these new golfers will naturally gravitate to serious competitive golf and a tiny fraction will become amateur champions and tour players. But all started as beginners. The golf industry keeps asking “How do we get more beginners to stick with the game?” – the Polara Golf ball is an obvious tool to help get people hooked on the game.
      Compare golf to bicycling for instance – would you start off your 3 year old daughter with a $1,000 road bike (without training wheels) and a pep talk about how the winner of the Tour de France doesn’t use training wheels so you shouldn’t either?
      Enjoy the game!
      Dave Felker
      Founder & CTO
      Polara Golf

      Tom S

      9 years ago

      I don’t know what “a growing number” means, and I suspect it may be somewhere around four?

      This is disgraceful. Golf is hard. It’s supposed to be hard. That’s why it is so satisfying when one can finally break 80, after a lot of work and sweat and practice. Nobody has *ever* said this game is supposed to be easy. If you want to make it easy, fine, let’s use balls that always go straight. Let’s find clubs that make the ball always go straight. Let’s just bring Iron Byron to the course with us, set it up on every tee and every fairway, and let it take the swings for us. On the greens, let’s set up a nice pendulum and just bring back the club and release it. Oh, wait, we’d have to worry about whether we’d hit it too hard, Oh, not to worry, let’s just bring a wooden backstop and put it right behind the hole, so a ball hit too hard would just bounce off the backstop and into the hole. There, everyone would shoot 57 on every course and no skill would be involved, but it would be “fun” for all. Because that’s what life is all about, right? Fun! Not hard work, not dedication, not striving to improve onesself. Just have fun.

      > the Polara Golf ball is an obvious tool to help get people hooked on the game.

      No, it’s not. The Polara golf ball is not a tool. Dave Felker is a tool.

      Dave Felker

      9 years ago

      Tom S – I can see how it would frustrate you to see a virtual beginner go out and hit every fairway without ever having taken a lesson, especially after you have spent so many years practicing. Please give the hardworking guy a break!! – not everyone has the time or money to perfect their swing. They just want to go out & have fun and not be embarrassed on the golf course. And they certainly shouldn’t be ridiculed for doing so, they should be encouraged. Without the hackers and slicers, there would be no affordable form of golf.

      There are two types of traditional golf – 1) recreational golf and 2) serious competitive golf. More than 80 % of golfers fall into the first category. The recreational golfer’s objective is to have fun. The serious competitive golfer’s objective is to win. Recreational golfers make up the rules on the first tee and most follow the USRGA.org Rules & Etiquette without knowing it. Serious competitive golfers follow the USGA Rules, which involve penalties and disqualification for not adhering to the rules.

      One of the few and oldest traditions of golf is the evolution of equipment technology. After all, how did golf get from the rock and stick to the present day high tech equipment? The fact that the Polara Golf balls do not conform to the USGA Rules, just means they cannot be used in competition played according to the USGA rules. But for the >80% of golfers who do not play according to the USGA rules, the Polara Golf balls are no different than taking a Mulligan or not taking the stroke & distance penalty – they make golf easier to learn, less frustrating and more fun to play.

      For at least 80% of golfers, golf is a game of traditions played with friends for fun and enjoyment. These golfers take advantage of every technological advance that they can, because for most of them they do not have the time or money to practice/take lessons and gradually cure their slice or hook. For >80% of golfers it is not so much about the score as about the time spent golfing with friends or business colleagues. To them, it is unthinkable not to offer a gimme putt or suggest taking a Mulligan when a friend is struggling. This is part of the tradition and spirit of golf. Recreational golf is a traditional game that has been played long before the USGA and R&A ever existed. Some recreational golfers transition to the more competitive form of golf that is ruled by the USGA and R&A. However the vast majority of golfers never make it past the novice stage, as evidenced by the fact that the average male golfer shots 106 and can’t drive the ball straight or longer than 195 yds. Recreational golf, as I have defined it here, falls outside the jurisdiction of the USGA.

      75% of golfers have never read the USGA rules and 73% admit to not following the USGA rules. But this does not mean recreational golfers do not follow rules. The majority of golfers agree on the rules on the first tee. This is not a disgrace to golf, and it is not a disgrace to play with a Polara ball or to take a Mulligan, unless you are cheating. Cheating means you agreed with your playing partners to one set of rules, then secretly broke the rules without telling anyone.

      Golf is a wonderful game. I choose to encourage everyone, including recreational golfers, to enjoy their free time playing golf.

      The Polara Golf balls are perfectly legal according to the USRGA Rules of golf. You might not play by the USRGA Rules, but millions of golfers do and there is honor in doing so.

      Enjoy the game!

      Dave Felker
      Co-Founder & CTO
      Polara Golf
      Enjoy the game!

      Matt McCollum

      9 years ago

      I tried one of these after finding it in the woods on a par 3 and upon hitting this ball it got up in the air just fine then I literally watched this ball dive bomb to the ground way way short of my normal drive so no this ball does not work it is a bad gimmick. I also found out my boss uses these and he suffers the same fate every time he hits one up them bombs to the ground very short.

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      PLAY GREAT GOLF

      9 years ago

      Agreed :

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      Mike S

      9 years ago

      Thanks for talking about something that applies to the vast magority of golfers. Those that just like to go out and play once a week or so. Have no intention of playing in tournaments or even having a handicap. These balls will make the game more enjoyable for us.

      Thanks!

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      Scottyfan

      9 years ago

      Hi I must be missing something here. As far as knew the polara balls were able to be used for recreational play. What they couldn’t be used for was club qualifying competitions. A couple of years ago I had a debate about this ball with a rep of the company. Essentially as I understand it the ball is assymetrical ( unless of course they have recently changed). and this is not allowed under USGA ball design criteria. If this ball was competition legal then you might as well
      allow double sided chippers, anchored putters, putting croquet style and anything else you can think of to make the game easier in competition play.

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      andrew

      9 years ago

      as a side bar- and i don’t think this would help get NEW golfers, but we could come up with some kind of unlimited golf tournament where any and all golf equipment was allowed so long as it looked and functioned like a golf club, i.e.- oversize/shaved/over length drivers, nonconforming balls, laser aimed putters, etc… it would be fun to see what folks could do with no (or very little) limitation.

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      Dave Felker

      9 years ago

      You are talking about the USRGA.org Open, coming in 2016.

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      andrew

      9 years ago

      this could be cool. 400 yard drives, holes-in-one, Bubba- style hooks/slices to the pin… but please, no steroids… thanks for the reply!

      andrew

      9 years ago

      I’m fine with folks playing these, however i don’t think i would, and would strongly prefer that no one in my group did either. reason being: I’m out there testing myself against the course and the rules of the game, and also my playing partners. we all have good and bad days, but it seems here these would minimize your good days, while not letting you know if you were having a bad one. also- if three of us were playing conforming equipment while one was not, that person really wouldn’t be playing the same game. not to mention there’s something disquieting about playing a ball that’s really more of a very narrow disk.

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      Gary Owens

      9 years ago

      link broke, just giberish

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      Ok deadeye

      9 years ago

      Bought a box last year. In 45 years of golf these are the only golf balls that I threw in the garbage when I got home. Hard as a rock. Off driver go about 140-150 yards. Never rise more than 30-40 feet in the air with iron or driver. My normal drive is 225. Seven iron is 140. Taught me one thing: dimples are the main reason golf balls rise and carry so far. When you shave a strip of them off you destroy the performance of the ball. Junk.

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      Dave Felker

      9 years ago

      Sorry to hear about your experience with the Polara balls. Judging from what you wrote, I would guess you probably bought the Polara Ultimate Straight golf ball which corrects 75% of a hook or slice, because it has a distinct principle axis of inertia (this is why it has the wider seam and shallow dimples located around the seam) and the ball generates 50% of the lift of a normal ball. These two “acts of physics” directly counteract the root cause of a hook or slice and straighten the flight of the ball. The balls are not “hard as a rock”, they are the same mid-compression value as any other 2-piece ball and in fact they are the exact same construction as many of the popular 2-piece balls because they are made with the exact same materials and processing in the same factory in Taiwan.

      If you use a higher loft driver the distance you lost will be recovered and the balls will correct more than 75%. The Polara Ultimate Straight is designed for the golfer who has a severe slice problem. If your slice is mild to moderate – play the Polara XD. The Polara XD corrects 50% and is as long as any other ball, sometimes longer for some golfers depending on exact swing dynamics.

      Too bad you threw the balls in the trash because Polara Golf has a “No-questions 100% money-back guarantee” on all of its balls and drivers. We have over 100,000 satisfied customers and I suspect we will have a lot more when we release our new products in 2016. Our focus is on making golf more fun, especially for those who struggle with slice, hook or distance issues

      David L. Felker
      Co-Founder, CTO and COO
      Polara Golf

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      Brent Goss

      9 years ago

      Adam Timmons

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      Gorse Richard

      9 years ago

      what’s illegal about its dimple pattern?

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      PLAY GREAT GOLF

      9 years ago

      I agree Sweet ! thanks a lot :p

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      Harv

      9 years ago

      I didn’t see it mentioned here but when you purchase a box of the Polara’s, there are instructions inside the box that inform you that the ball won’t perform to their expectations on lower lofted clubs. Using a club with a higher loft is the only way to go with these balls.
      I’ve tried several of the models as well over the past 4 months and the newer models far exceed last year’s models. Don’t forget, you must line the ball straight using the pre-printed arrows before hitting the ball or you will not achieve your optimal alignment.
      They don’t seem to go further, but if you think about it, if it goes straighter, it will go much further than your old slice. Nothing beats the XX10 balls for distance and accuracy. People who use those balls know how good they are and I’m sure they won’t tell their friends because the ball are the best on the market. I’d love to see if you can do a golf spy report on the new “OnCore” ball. Scientifically, these could be the best for golfers for getting a true roll.

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      Josh Yri

      9 years ago

      Is it just me, or is that link broken?

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      MyGolf Spy

      9 years ago

      working fine on the servers.

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      Josh Yri

      9 years ago

      Ok. Yup works on my iPad, just not on my computer. Thanks Microsoft! ;)

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      PLAY GREAT GOLF

      9 years ago

      Nice :

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      Dave S

      9 years ago

      Seriously considering trying this ball… so here’s my question:

      When the testers said above that the ball almost seems to wiggle itself straight, does that mean it has odd flight characteristices? I guess I’m trying to figure out if the random player watching the ball would be able to tell that it’s a gimmick product or would it just look like a straight flying golf ball? Thanks.

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      Harv

      9 years ago

      Not all the time, but sometimes it looks like you hit a knuckleball, no one will no the difference.

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      Clack

      7 years ago

      I started playing 3 years ago and sucked bad i mean vomit i even quit then my buddy gave me some polara xd balls.It did what it claims straight drives. I am 32 years old and can swing 120mph when I hit polara balls on the screws a monster drive will happen. I don’t think polara balls are right for everyone but they were right for me. I am now using pro v1s with a 6 handicap. Thanks polara for saving me from quitting golf

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      Mbwa Kali Sana

      9 years ago

      This sales pitch is completely misleading to the good golfer:the POLARA ball is shorter than any other ball off the tee and off the fairway.
      It ‘s true it corrects the side spin called “slice “to some degree ,but if you are a good golfer ,you don’t slice .
      They are good for putting though .
      I have many of these all at home ,in my basement :I use them only for training my putting from far ,beyond 20 feet :these balls would serve their purpose if you were allowed to change balls during a round on the same hole and only put with them

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      Tom D

      9 years ago

      i occasionally play, and regularly recommend, especially to women, the Bridgestone E6. This is because of it’s sidespin-reducing properties. Women golfers I know get a huge improvement in distance by hitting a straighter ball. In fact, the E6 is better for most women’s games than the so-called “women’s ball” they market. This was confirmed by a Bridgestone ball-fitting team.

      I think the USGA is doing a disservice to its amateur constituency by outlawing the dimple pattern used by Polara in this anti-slice ball. This really points out once again the need for different standards for competition and recreational golfers. If USGA tries to ignore this, their problem will not go away,. They will simply lose the ability to manage and regulate it. For proof, watch next year when competition golfers stop using the anchored putter and recreational golfers continue using it.

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      ryebread

      9 years ago

      I kind of wondered what the control balls were, but I am guessing a Prov1 and a Prov1x. I am curious how the Polaras would do against a Bridgestone E6 or a Callaway SuperSoft. I play both and find their sidespin reduction very impressive. I’m not good enough to notice that much difference around the greens which is where the trade off seemingly is.

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      Dave Felker

      9 years ago

      In June of 2012 Richard Levine, PhD of Forestat Consulting Group, LLC conducted independent testing of the Polara golf balls against the Bridgestone e6 ball and found essentially the same results as MyGolfSpy found for ball “B” in this current testing. Under many conditions the Bridgestone e6 is straighter than most premium polyurethane covered multi-piece balls, but the Polara balls are so much straighter than the Bridgestone e6 that they are in a whole different class.
      Dave Felker
      Founder & CTO
      Polara Golf

      Shane S

      9 years ago

      As in, the “not legal” class.

      Shane S, with all due respect, I think you are comparing apples to oranges. The Polara ball clearly outperforms the Bridgestone e6 and is perfectly legal for the use it is intended for – recreational play (+75% of rounds played). But the design & performance goals were totally different for these two products. One was designed to conform to the USGA Rules and the other wasn’t. How can something be against the USGA rules (“not legal” as you put it) if it were not intended to be played when the USGA rules are in effect? Are softball players cheating because they don’t play to hardball rules? Are flag football players committing an illegal act by not playing to NFL rules? There are many types of golf and many golf rules apply – are charity scrambles “illegal events”?
      Believe me, I have taken a lot of heat from golfers who were incensed with the fact that anyone could create an “illegal” product, but when they take the time to understand the purpose behind our products and they realize they are not a threat to their game, then most people see the purpose here and are OK with it. Occasionally some golfers will object to the Polara balls based on the “traditions of golf” argument – but I have yet to hear one “traditionalist” provide a logical answer to my question, “Based on the traditions of golf, what equipment should we all be playing and how many logos should be the maximum allowed on our hats and shirts?”
      One of the traditions of golf is the evolution of the equipment. If you want to read the history of how the original Polara ball became “illegal” check this out: http://www.researchgate.net/publication/222372504_The_rise_and_fall_of_the_Polara_asymmetric_golf_ball_No_hook_no_slice_no_dice
      Read this and you will then ask yourself, “why were fade biased drivers and carbon fiber shafts not deemed illegal? What about movable weights on drivers, adjustable drivers, multi-piece balls, …. ?”
      Enjoy your game.

      Tom S

      9 years ago

      > How can something be against the USGA rules (“not legal” as you put it) if it were not intended to be played when the USGA rules are in effect?

      I have been reading a number of posts from people who supply their USGA Handicap Index, or a rounding of it to the nearest integer, and they say they are going to play this ball, or they have played it. Sorry, but you cannot do this. The USGA Handicap Manual has a section titled “Unacceptable Scores for Handicap Purposes” and it says, in part:

      – Do not post scores when a player uses non-conforming clubs, balls, or tees

      So you cannot use this ball if you are posting scores for handicap purposes. Our “friend” Dave says you can use it when USGA rules are not in effect. If you have an official handicap, the USGA rules are *always* in effect.

      David Felker

      9 years ago

      Tom – Less than 15% of golfers have a USGA handicap, so we are talking about a small minority of golfers. Those who have an official handicap understand they are not obligated in any way to always play by the USGA Rules and they know that you simply don’t post a score if you were not playing by the USGA rules. Golfers play in Scrambles and of play just for fun with their friends, children, grand kids, …. there are many occasions when golfers with an official handicap do not play according to the USGA Rules. In fact there are times when the USGA Rules are inappropriate. FOr instance, you are playing a recreational round with a business associate with who you are trying to close a business deal. The guy hits a 10 footer off the 1st tee – you say “Go ahead take a Mulligan”. The guy is a 25 handicap and hits the ball to 12 inches from the cup for a tap in birdie – do you say “Please mark the ball” or “Go ahead and pick it up”?
      For 85% of golfers, golf is a game with the object being “Have fun”. For a small fraction of golfers, the objective is “To Win”. These are two completely different forms of Golf and they use two different sets of rules. Almost every sport has different rules that apply at the recreational and serous competitive level.
      Enjoy the game, and invite a friend to take up the game.

      Clay

      9 years ago

      I’m a 12 handicap and play lots of different balls. I read about Polera balls and decided to give them a try. Results, the Polera that corrected 50% of your slice, note I’m not a slicer but tend to draw and occasionally add in a snap hook, was superior to any top ball I’ve played to date. It does fly straight, corrects in mid air and stops on the greens with adequate spin. Here are the negatives, putting, it’s feels hard with little touch, runs out further on your pitch shots, and I have to watch my club selection as the ball is long. In my case I club down one, conditions permitting, because of the extra carry. It’s a fun ball to play and at my age, 67, adds fun and excitement to the game. I don’t play the ball all the time but on the longer par fives and fours it will surprise you.

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      Tom S

      9 years ago

      Or people could take some lessons from a competent professional teacher and fix their problem the right way. Just saying.

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      Dave S

      9 years ago

      Obviously… however, a lot of people cannot afford or don’t have the time to take lessons. Also, maybe beginner golfers don’t want to invest a ton of money into the game until they’re sure they actually like it. This ball could help them “like” it more from the start.

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      Alex

      9 years ago

      Great point Dave. As far as I’m concerned, with the state of participation where it is we need to reduce the barriers that are preventing or discouraging people from playing golf. The two main barriers are time and money, not enough time to practice and not enough money to be pouring funds into lessons. If this ball were to allow golfers to get on the course and be hitting some great shots right off the bat then they will have a much easier time understanding the intricacies that make golf so fun and addictive. Once they are hooked they will inevitably be looking to move away from this “starter” ball and work to improve their swing in order to use the regular balls. I see no issue as using these balls as the “training wheels” of the golf industry if it allows more people to share my enjoyment of the game.

      andrew

      9 years ago

      you’re right on the time issue- but on money you’ve overshot. if i tried to bring a complete beginner to the course they’d balk at greens fees, not to mention equipment prices. even buying used (or borrowing my older) gear, my local executive muni is $15, $12 for jr/sr- if you’re 15 years old, where do you spend your cash? a night at the movies with your sweetie, or a couple hours trying to hit a ball with a bunch of “old” folks? (hmm… maybe image hurts, too) when i was a kid my buddies and i could grab our dads’ old junky stuff and go to our local muni and play nine for $5, and that was still kind of a bit of change. we have to find a way to get them to the course in the first place before they’ll realize they want (yes, want) lessons. if there were lower cost courses (or golf-card type deals) that people actually knew about (advertise, maybe), then we might have a shot at growing the game.

      Cbill

      9 years ago

      Hey Tom; think maybe you have beat this horse long enough? Lets admit it, I (and probably many others) wouldn’t enjoy playing casual golf with you (and your rules), and visa/versa.

      I would think you might find some satisfaction in knowing this ball will possibly help the high handicappers (non USGA members of course) get around (and off) the course and out of your way a little faster.

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      Mike

      9 years ago

      good stuff !
      Can’t wait to try it in combination with this other slice reduction product Mygolfspy tested and proved to be very efficient (Noslice lube) :
      http://mygolfspy.com/mygolfspy-labs-performance-enhancing-lube-myth/

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      Jeff seaford

      9 years ago

      I now have a chance on our weekend matches!!

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      Shane S

      9 years ago

      Probably not if your mates are using them too…

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      Tom S

      9 years ago

      Jeff, if you think cheating gives you a chance, then yes. If everyone else is playing legal equipment and you are playing illegal equipment, and you can justify that to yourself by saying that it gives you a chance, yes. The thing that amazes me the most about this story is not the story itself, but the replies. So many responders are responding positively. I was under the impression that the readership of MGS is comprised of serious players. I am wondering how high a percentage of readers are simply hackers, unwilling to invest the time and work into the game, who are looking for *any* kind of quick fix, legal or not.

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      David Felker

      9 years ago

      Tom – it is not cheating to play the Polara ball if you announce to everyone you are doing so and they agree it is fine. Same with Mulligans, gimme putts, etc. I would encourage those recreational golfers with a hook or slice problem to establish your a with the Polara ball, you will have a lower handicap score, and then the handicap will account for your new playing ability. The handicap system was originally developed to account for 1) difference in skill level, 2) differences in the courses played, and 3) differences in the equipment played.

      Technically speaking you cannot have an official USGA handicap using the Polara ball, but you can establish a USRGA handicap. The USRGA.org offers a free handicap service. A golfer with a USRGA handicap can actually compete against a golfer with a USGA handicap, with each playing by his own rules. Done it many times playing with friends who want to play by a more relaxed game or a more competitive game.
      Whatever format you decide to play – Enjoy the Game!

      Adam

      9 years ago

      These seem..I would guess…to function through spin reduction. Or through less drag for a given spin. At any rate I wonder if a high handicapper that might already struggle to stop a ball on a green would find that even more difficult. Even if actual spin is close the height for given iron shots would suffer.

      Regardless. .I would love to see the hackers in front of me on Saturday playing these balls.

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      Dave Felker

      9 years ago

      The Polara balls reduce slices and hooks because they have 1) a principle axis of inertia – meaning the moment of inertia of the ball is higher when it is rotated about one axis than all others (caused by the asymmetric dimple pattern) and 2) when they spin around their principle axis of inertia they generate lower lift. The Polara Ultimate Straight has about 50% of the lift of a normal golf ball, the Polara XD has 90%. The Polara XD has about twice the principle axis of inertia affect as the Ultimate straight ball.
      The Polara Golf balls come in high spin versions that are as easy to stop on the green as any other 3-piece soft Surlyn covered golf ball.
      Dave Felker
      Co-Founder & CTO
      Polara Golf

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      Josh B

      9 years ago

      I actually bought a dozen of both balls last year. I must say that they definitely do reduce the slice considerably. The only thing I didn’t care for was that it felt like I was hitting a rock. Very hard balls, but I am sure that is a small price to pay for dramatically reducing your slice.

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      Fozcycle

      9 years ago

      A friend of mine played these balls a couple years ago. He was a 70 yr old lefty with tremendous slice. His driver was always the most current Cobra with the offset. When he tried the Polara balls, he said he felt like he was cheating, but it made his game more fun than ever. He quit playing them after a couple months and gave me a sleeve. To date, the sleeve has not left my garage as I am not a habitual slicer. Maybe I’ll have to give them a try anyway.

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