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#AskMyGolfSpy – 2023 Drivers

Should I replace my driver with a new 2023 driver this year?

The answer is, “it depends.”

How long has it been since your last upgrade? Has your swing changed in any meaningful way?

Golfers replace their drivers roughly every four to five years. For avid golfers, it’s a little more often and, of course, we all have played with that guy who has a 10-year-old driver in the bag.

Performance gains are typically incremental (and often minimal) from one year to the next. This is a case where the “average” guy probably has it right.

If your swing has changed, you might want to consider a new driver but, before you drop $600, it may be worth working with a fitter on a retro-fit of your existing club.

Carbon. We’ve seen it once; will we see it again?

TaylorMade is 100-percent committed to carbon technology so you’ll definitely see more carbon-faced drivers from them in 2023. Stealth drivers weren’t the company’s first go-round with carbon but it was kind of Gen 1 for the mass-market.

For Gen 1 tech, it was excellent but the weight savings weren’t what they could be. Ample opportunities for improvement remain.

As far as TaylorMade’s competitors go … We’ve heard the requisite stories about the limitations and deficiencies of carbon as a face material. I expect the chatter will continue but I’d be surprised if we don’t eventually see a carbon fiber-faced competitor with a good story explaining why the new tech is different (and better—it’s always better) than TaylorMade’s.

That won’t happen this year, however. For everyone else, it’s titanium-faced drivers for the next little while.

Should I focus more on accuracy, forgiveness or distance?

When we had Titleist’s JJ Van Wezenbeeck on No Putts Given last week, he emphasized the importance of fitting for center-face contact when he works with Tour pros. In a world where every data point spit out by the launch monitor can be over-scrutinized, I think that’s a super-simple, infinitely important and grossly overlooked element of the fitting equation.
 
I do think that performance of most (not all) drivers is similar enough that average golfers would be better served by trading away a couple yards of distance to bring the ball closer to the centerline.

Having said that, if your fitter can dial in consistently center-ish impact, then distance, accuracy and forgiveness will follow.

What’s the next big change for metalwoods? Carbon woods? Both.

I’m not sure what it is but you can bet there will be something. Speed sells so there’s always going to be a speed story.

For TaylorMade, we know it’s going to be the evolution of carbon face. I’d wager Callaway is ready to move on from, or at least build on, the Jailbreak story in a way that’s different than what we’ve heard for the past few years.

Beyond speed, most everyone is looking to fit the widest swath of the market possible so I expect we’ll continue to see three to four models in every lineup with an enhanced ability to move weight around.

Drivers are expensive. What am I really paying for?

Titleist TSR4 Driver

In a word, you’re paying for hope.

As for what goes into that, the actual cost to roll a driver off an assembly line is a couple of hundred bucks but drivers don’t make themselves.

Everyone is chasing better and while the manifestation of that is often just a yard or two, finding it is expensive.

Cynical golfers like to chalk everything up to the cost of marketing but the reality is that research costs money. In addition to traditional golf design roles, the larger companies employ aerodynamicists, material scientists and teams whose job it is to look for stuff that might work five to 10 years from now.

So, yeah, you’re paying for materials, a ton of human capital, retail margins and, yes, marketing.

If you want to know what it really costs to make a driver, I’d wager that when PXG does one of its price drops, you’re seeing something pretty close to a break-even proposition.

If you could play one driver for the rest of your career, what would it be?

There’s a nostalgia element to questions like these so the temptation is always to go with a driver that I really loved five years ago, even if I haven’t played in three or more seasons.

Nah, I’m not falling into it.

The last driver I was fitted into was the Titleist TSR. It’s the best I have right now so if we’re drawing the line on the calendar at today, then that’s what has to be the answer.

Will every large golf company be releasing a new driver this season?

YES! (and that’s awesome)

This is one of the “perfect storm” years where all of the big guys (and most of the challenger brands) will have new product.

Titleist just launched TSR. You can bank on new drivers from TaylorMade, Callaway and COBRA annually and the PING G430 is on its way as well. For what it’s worth, new Srixon stuff just hit the USGA list and I’d wager Tour Edge isn’t going to sit out 2023.

If you’re in the market for a new driver, you’ll be able to choose from the latest (and presumably the best) that everyone has to offer.

Will you have the patience to wait until everything is available at retail so you can demo them all? Or better yet, have them all available during your fitting?

What’s one piece of advice you’d give to anyone looking to invest in a new driver?

Get fitted.

$600 is the new normal (see below). A good number of you already think that’s a ridiculous amount to spend on a driver. Even if I don’t agree with you, it’s definitely a ridiculous amount to spend on something that isn’t custom fit for you.

Did you just say that $600 is the new normal?

Yes.

We all know everything costs more. I mean, a pound of good roast beef runs about $15. It doesn’t feel like all that long ago that it was only $6.

Anyway, TaylorMade set a new standard with Stealth last year. Titleist has already matched with TSR and I can’t imagine Callaway is willing to stay under $600 and risk the perception that those other guys are somehow more premium.

PING may come it at $550. It may not.

It’s certainly possible, maybe even likely, that some smaller and mid-sized brands will position themselves as offering performance AND value (all things are relative) in the $500 to $550 range. Much below that and I’d wager the company is sacrificing either quality or profits—and very few companies are willing to sacrifice profits.

 

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      nope

      1 year ago

      callaway most defiantly is coming in hot with something that is not a rouge and will be devastatingly better than the rouge by 20-30% on average for 2023

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      Barry

      1 year ago

      TaylorMade is 100-percent committed to carbon technology – Just like they were committed to Bubble Shafts and Copper colour heads. They are the masters of marketing and spin!

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      Brad Lee

      2 years ago

      I went from a Cobra Speedzone Extreme back to a Titelist 905D2 and would play this thing the rest of my life. I gained yards and am hitting more fairways. It is also eaiser to work the ball with too. I am tempted to try the new TSR drivers, but do not think they will make that much of a difference to my game especially for that price.

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      Emery

      2 years ago

      I went from a G400 to an EpicLS Max. Then, this year I went to a longer shaft to decrease my swing speed and decrease the pressure on my lower back. So many combinations of adjustments & shafts & swing techniques that IF you find the right combo…..stick with it, nobody is paying you to play their stuff….get fitted, get lessons and play premium balls. (and maybe get a launch monitor)

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      Vincent

      2 years ago

      I shot an 82 last week. I consistently drive the ball 285 clearing 300 a handful of times per round. I use a Callaway X2 Hot from 8 years ago. I struggle with a hook on occasion. Is the conventional wisdom that a new driver would result in a significant increase in distance? I outdrive guys using the newest equipment week after week. I have a hard time believing a new driver can out perform my current gamer.

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      Dave R.

      2 years ago

      If your driver is 8 years old, I’ll bet you can find one that outperforms it with a good fitter. Optimizing launch angle and spin will produce gains, but I believe the newer drivers are also more forgiving across the face. If you should 82, you’re a single digit handicapper but not every strike is center contact. I thought my Ping G400 Max was the best driver ever for me, but found one longer and just as forgiving (TM SIM).

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      Yeah

      1 year ago

      Yeah ok. Big cap

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      Bbk

      1 year ago

      Does this site have a test with the last 5 models of any company being hit with side by side results to see what the actual differences are?

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      Ray

      2 years ago

      If they kept the price on every driver at say $250. – $350.. they would probably sell many more than they do now. Go into a Dick’s Sporting Goods or Golf Galaxy or any Golf store this time of year and you see racks and racks of last years super clubs. It’s never ending and all for getting what 1-5 yards maybe and I mean maybe!!

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      Ford

      2 years ago

      Unless I hit a lottery, you’ll never see me paying 600 dollars for a new driver… I’ll wait as I just did and get something new old stock that I’ve hit for about 200 bucks….

      Nothing wrong with others paying that much, but it isn’t for me… no matter how much groceries cost.

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      J R

      1 year ago

      I’m 80 years old, and have subscribed to that method of club purchasing all my life. A “new” two year old club is still a new club to me, and with the slight differences in that period of time, I can use the 50 percent savings to cover the cost of a lot of good quality golf balls.

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      Trevor S

      2 years ago

      As a weekend warrior, every time I hit the range my driver flight is different. I’m very skeptical that a fitting has lasting benefit. Can MGS do a myth buster on this? Let’s get golfers from various handicaps fit for a new driver and then have them hit balls with their gamer & new fitted driver a week later, then two weeks later, etc.. I predict no advantage to the fitted driver because most of us are consistent enough. Tour pros, yes. Scratch golfers yes.

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      Trevor S

      2 years ago

      *not consistent enough

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      Nick P.

      2 years ago

      I agree with you. I am also one of those weekend warriors whose hdcp is a 30. Some days more. I am out there trying to hit my SLDR and some days I do well with it and others I might as well just throw the ball down the fairway.

      I am going to get a proper fitting soon though. At the end of the day I know at least I wont be any worse after it.

      Kurt Weingand

      2 years ago

      A professional fitting is useful for comparing your current clubs to new ones.. I recommend using new high quality golf balls, not cheap, worn out range balls.. If you buy a new driver, I recommend you test hit the exact driver you intend to buy off of the shelf. Performance of demo drivers can be different from the clubs for sale on the shelves.

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      Marty

      2 years ago

      I find the new driver speak is always the same, we’ve put the weight low and back to add forgiveness.
      Same ol same ol.

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      Scott

      2 years ago

      My friend was fitted at a top location in Houston and the fitter was clueless. Drivers with 3000 plus spin, low launch angles ..ultra-light shafts … no gains whatsoever over his 2011 driver. Fitting is a joke.

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      John

      2 years ago

      What about the new GEN PXG drivers. They don’t cost anymore than the brand names. It didn’t get a mention but I would that be a good option for a new driver?

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      John

      2 years ago

      To clarify, I mean the new PXG 0311 GEN 5 Drivers.

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      Brad Ransom

      2 years ago

      Shafts are an upgrade also. Driver head is one thing but a good fitted shaft can add to your current head also. I agree with the $1000 for a new driverW shaft for you game. But if you don’t see 10 yards better, then why go there?

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      Les

      2 years ago

      They’ve already priced me out of the market for new clubs.. I purchased a used” driver a year ago. I look for something classified as used, but not actually played. I bought a year old driver described as “shop worn..” I still looked new ad had never hit a ball. It was an XXIO Prime driver which listed at $850 and I bought it for less than $300. I was so happy with it that this summer I bought new irons, hybrids and a fairway wood the same way and saved nearly $650. It’s the only way I’ll have a “new” set of clubs any more.

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      Kevin

      2 years ago

      Smart way to shop Les, I’ve been doing that for a few years now even though at the time I could afford the latest and greatest it was the principle for me. My driver and 3 wood are both older than what was current when I got them but they were “new”, I’m the only owner. The rest of my bag I waited for the PXG sales to hit and I scored on that, even was fitted beforehand. No shame in buying “older”, the equipment is all pretty good over the last 5 years.

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      Dave Morgan

      2 years ago

      So how can you really get fitted for a driver if your a rank beginner or have a handicap of 20? Seems to me the swing is not consistent or developed enough to make real judgements other than the obvious things like swing speed. If your swing mechanics, tempo, swing arc and all the other things that make a difference are inconsistent, then it’s really just a “pig in a poke” is it not?

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      JMF

      2 years ago

      Ooh, this is me exactly – can someone address this?

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      Steve S. (the old and handsome one)

      2 years ago

      Yes, absolutely.

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      Jhap

      2 years ago

      You’d be very surprised how consistent your swing actually is. It may not be form perfect but doesn’t mean its inconsistent, just may be consistently off.

      Most inconsistent ball flights for average joes come from mishits, not drastically changing path or clubface angles. Those mishits can be accounted for during a fit, to then create a consistent ball flight.

      Remember a 25 yards slice, every time, is by definition consistent.

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      Leonard

      2 years ago

      Repeating the “get fitted” mantra isn’t always helpful advice. The last time I went to one of the large fitting outfits, the fitter told me that standard shafts were junk, even on drivers from TaylorMade, Callaway, etc. They had all of the driver heads from the big guys but not their shafts.. Add the cost of a driver, custom shaft, grip, fitting fee, shipping and you’re now looking at $1,000. For what benefit? In my case an average of 4 yards greater distance and only slightly better accuracy. Not a good value.

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      Jay

      2 years ago

      I’ll stick to my speedzone and radspeed driver. They are the best drivers ever made no need to mess with that

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      RT

      2 years ago

      JUST KEEP JACKING THE PRICE UP !!!! YET THIS WILL CAUSE HIGHER PRICES ON USED CLUBS SO IT’S JUST GREED AND DRIVES THE AVG. PLAYER OUT …

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      Patrick

      2 years ago

      Yeah people, engineers should work for minimum wage to support your meagre income . If you want quality pal, you got to pay for it

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      Robert OHara

      2 years ago

      I like the way these companies all come out with a new (greatest driver ever) and a year later they try to convince you it’s no longer the “ thing” to have.
      When getting fitted make sure the fitter isn’t playing with the wind on their launch monitor. I know some unscrupulous fitters, wanting to sell a driver have known to do that. If your swing speed is X amount, your ball is only going to fly so get! Buyer beware!!

      Joe Domill

      2 years ago

      the information about the new drivers . I now have good information what to look for. thanks

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      Jeff

      2 years ago

      The savvy play is to buy the previous model year or two. Just like cars, there’s a HUGE depreciation in cost for just one or two previous model years. Along those lines, getting fit should just not be for current model year, but for previous model years. Much rather pay $250-$300 for a past gen model than $600 for current year….for something that will be “out of date” in just 12 months time.

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      Joey5Picks

      2 years ago

      That is a smart way to go, but it’s difficult to get fit for last year’s model. They want you to buy the current model at full price, so the best you’re going to get is demoing last year’s models in stock shafts and hope for the best. Few, if any, are going to go through a full fitting with previous year’s stuff.

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      Blazedawg87

      2 years ago

      Thats why you go get fit and write everything down for later.

      HR Fernandez

      2 years ago

      Arccos statistics speak for themselves, enough said.

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      Joe

      2 years ago

      Arccos statistics are highly flawed IMO. The user base, avid golfers, is not representative of the entirety of all golfers,- many of whom are recreational and could care less about carrying a handicap or measuring their stats. This same group is likely to buy clubs used or at big box retailers straight off the shelf. So by that, you’re missing a big portion of the true market.

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      Dave Dmytro

      1 year ago

      Find me the best club fitter in zip code 36532

      Reply

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