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BIG Changes Underway At Cleveland Golf

Written By: Tony Covey

The Future of Cleveland Golf

Perhaps you haven’t noticed, but big changes are underway at Cleveland Golf. For those who haven’t been paying attention, Cleveland and its parent company SRI Sports (Srixon) have been dropping breadcrumbs for the better of the season. We touched upon the trail briefly in our lead-in to the Tour Rack Wedge giveaway, but for the sake of clarity, let me briefly walk you down the path of recent history.

  • Cleveland kicks off the MY CUSTOM WEDGE Program
  • Cleveland release super game-improvement Smart Sole wedges
  • Cleveland develops a video series with short game tips from Dave Pelz
  • Cleveland hosts short game clinics all over the country
  • Cleveland launches Limited Edition Tour Rack Wedge program
  • Srixon makes its most aggressive US launch ever with Z F 545 and 745 Irons and metalwoods

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What does this all mean?

Do you notice a trend?

Let me spell it out for you. There’s a new plan underway at SRI Sports. While Cleveland isn’t completely going away, the brand’s role in the larger company will be significantly diminished. The Srixon brand will seek to make inroads into the US Market with its own metalwood and iron offerings, while the Cleveland brand will be used for short game clubs, as well as ultralight and game-improvement models (the Altitude series) most specifically designed for seniors. As it was explained to us, Cleveland’s new target market for all things not wedge is The Villages.

Outside of Florida’s friendliest hometown, Cleveland, it appears, is all but exiting the larger iron and metalwoods markets.

Allow me to reiterate. If what closely connected sources are telling us is accurate (and we think it it is) Cleveland Golf will no longer produce drivers, fairway woods, hybrids, or irons for the full market. Instead, it will focus its efforts on wedges, and a niche segments of the metalwoods and irons market.

No doubt some of you are saddened by that news.

Rumors Swirling for Years

Over the last several years, there isn’t another golf company on the planet that’s been the subject of more rumors than Cleveland Golf. Here’s just a quick sample of what’s come up this year alone:

  • Under Armour wants into the club market. It’s buying Cleveland.
  • Go Daddy founder, Bob Parsons, he’s buying Cleveland too.
  • Nobody is buying Cleveland because the company is going out of business.
  • Callaway Golf is buying Cleveland just so Roger Cleveland can put his name on a wedge again.

I totally made-up that last one, but those first ones, and a few others continue to circulate.

The reality as we understand it today is that Cleveland Golf isn’t going away. It’s not even being sold. Sources I’ve spoken with tell me that Cleveland’s parent company – Japan’s Sumitomo Rubber Industries (the SRI in SRI Sports and SRIxon) actually likes being in the golf business. SRI wants to stay in the golf business.

Srixon Matters

On this side of the world Srixon is certainly better known for its golf balls than its clubs, but elsewhere in the world, Japan to be totally specific, Srixon is the #1 selling hard goods company in the market. Basically Srixon kills it over there, which is pretty damn impressive considering that Japan has the second largest golf market on the planet. The US and Japanese markets combined (according to Golf Datatech) make up 70% of the total worldwide market for golf.

Basically, Japan matters…a lot. Srixon is big in Japan. Therefore Srixon matters.

I just got 5 points on a 4th grade logic test.

Why Is This Happening?

Like just about everything else in the golf business, change is necessitated by the bottom line. Whatever you may think about Cleveland, the brand and its products, the fact is that the company’s market share in the iron and metalwoods categories has steadily declined over the last several seasons. We know there are plenty of you out there who love your Cleveland clubs (the Launcher driver comes up quite a bit), but one could make a reasonably compelling argument that Cleveland has failed to generate any real excitement since the Hi-Bore came out.

In that lies the problem.

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According to the most recent Golf Datatech reports, Cleveland’s share of the metalwoods market has dropped to 1%. That means that 99 of every 100 dollars spent on woods goes to someone else. The iron business isn’t doing much better. That same report shows Cleveland with a 1.67% share of the market.

Obviously, that’s not where Cleveland once was, and it’s certainly not where it wants to be.

Wedges? Well, as you might imagine given the company’s position as one of the iconic wedge makers in the game, Cleveland does significantly better there. The recent report has them at 21% of the market (trailing only Vokey at ~40%).

The bottom line is that wedges are the last true bright spot in the Cleveland club lineup (and even there, Cleveland is down 7% from last season), so it makes sense for SRI to do whatever it can to focus the Cleveland brand on what’s still working.

The upside for Cleveland fans is that the company apparently has plans to substantially expand its wedge lineup. In addition to the multiple loft and bounce options currently available, Cleveland will finally offer multiple different grinds as well.

Can Srixon Make It In the USA?

Once upon a time Srixon golf balls were little more than a curiosity with a funny name. Over time the brand has grown to a point of respectability within the US Market, although (in the interest of painting a complete picture), the brand currently ranks only #6 on Datatech’s golf ball market share report. The point is that while many US-based golfers might be familiar with the name, it would be a stretch to say that we’ve completely embraced it.

That said, Srixon’s percentage of the ball market is higher than Cleveland’s in both the the iron and metalwoods market (combined), and the brand does have a strong overseas presence, which, if leveraged correctly could have some impact on our market.

The bigger issue is distribution. As it stands now, other than the ball shelf, it’s difficult to find Srixon products anywhere. As big box shops like Dick’s downsize the golf business while other seek to eliminate outstanding inventory, getting shop managers to buy into a largely unknown brand that doesn’t currently even register in Datatech’s numbers won’t be easy. Srixon is currently included in other.

Srixon makes clubs? That will be asked, and asked often.

It’s more difficult for a new brand to make inroads into golf, and while Srixon isn’t exactly new, its less of a known commodity than Bridgestone, who will also be making a big push in 2015. Quite frankly, I don’t

But Wait, There’s More

As you might imagine, the realignment will have some implications on tour as well. While we fully expect current Cleveland staffers to keep their Cleveland gear in their bag as long as they so desire, as soon as each is ready, the Tour guys will bag Srixon woods and irons. Srixon name will eventually be the primary branding for all things tour related (other than wedges). We also expect SRI Sports will launch a marketing campaign designed to raise awareness of the brand’s usage on tour.

You’re likely going to hear a lot more about Srixon.

As an interesting aside to all of this, SRI Sports will look to expand the footprint of the lesser known XXIO brand (SRI’s premium offering). Although US distribution is currently limited to less than 2 dozen accounts nationwide, the brand has generated roughly one million in sales this year. This, despite wholesale pricing for irons and woods that’s roughly double the street price for the average club.

And So It Continues

We’ve talked several times about the ongoing consolidation of the golf industry, and so here’s your latest example. Once one of the most iconic brands in the golf business, Cleveland’s days as a full line manufacturer appear to be over. Srixon will step in to fill the void while attempting a serious run at the US Market.

Given the changes, it’s not unrealistic to think that we’re on the verge of losing another of golf’s formerly great brands. The pink elephant in the room, however, is the slow demise of Adam’s Golf. The shifting of operations to TaylorMade’s Carlsbad headquarters has many predicting that it won’t be long before Adams simply ceases to exist. If those doom and gloom predictions become reality it could conceivably open the door for Cleveland to gain a foothold in those areas where the Adams brand performs well (seniors and game-improvement).

You could make a serious argument that the demise of Adams represents Cleveland’s best chance for survival.

The impending changes are perhaps sad. They’re perhaps frustrating, and some will argue that the modern business of golf made it impossible for Cleveland to compete. Ultimately, like everything else, it is what it is.

Stay Tuned

Unfortunately, we don’t believe the industry is done realigning and downsizing. There’s almost certainly more yet to come.

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      Simon

      10 years ago

      I’m really sad to hear of Cleveland’s apparent fate. The first I heard of it was through a Peter Finch video on youtube, where he attended the Cleveland Srixon 2015 product launch in the UK. I really like Cleveland product and think reducing their role may be a mistake:

      – I don’t know how Cleveland concentrating on GI, women and seniors helps maintain the premium market perception for their wedges.

      – Cleveland still have some fantastic brands that, in my opinion, are still desirable. E.g. the CG iron range, the Launcher woods (could easily be relaunched – pardon the pun), the 588 irons (which are every bit as good as any other forged offering), the Classic range, the Mashies. These are some of the most trusted products for both consumers and tour professionals. Why give this up? Would I consider buying a new CG tour quality iron? Hell yes I would and there’d be a lot of hype surrounding it as well. Would a relaunch of the Launcher create stacks of interest? I believe so.

      – I think the Srixon and Cleveland provide fans and tour staff of both companies some awesome choices. For average consumers, having a premium quality product at a very reasonable price point is also really desirable. That is what Cleveland provides. Srixon appears pitched at the high end of the market, and I believe they can carve out a niche there. But I think there is still a place for Cleveland to complement Srixon’s offering in providing more choice and better prices.

      So I’m saddened to hear about this. It really sucks to hear that Cleveland has been relegated to a wedge manufacturer. No wonder Nate Radcliffe decided to leave. It’s a shame really.

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      B. Anderson

      7 years ago

      I still play a left handed set of Cleveland TA-6 irons on a regular basis, which I purchased new some years ago. I am still very happy with their performance, even now in 2018, despite the fact that I own several other brands as well.

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      bpilchr

      10 years ago

      Yep you are all correct. Sold a lot and played them all. But “it is what it is”

      Reply

      Steve Almo

      10 years ago

      The one thing that MUST be understood by most is that when a Major goes sideways or starts bleeding…it’s like a hernorage. It’s very hard to stop the bleeding. Clevelands so called downfall was most likely that Classic Driver they made that kinda’ looked like an old style wood head. Retro.is fine as a limited edition or a Minor introducing a model such as that. In a high tech world a Major should never intro a low tech percived Driver. It won’t sell. They had to lose their arse on that model…I don’t know what genius came up with that idea…but, what a mistake that was.

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      Tom T

      10 years ago

      I still have a Classic xl driver and Mashie woods and hybrids in my bag. I have yet to test anything that works better for me. The Classic just kills the ball, my friends get mad when I blow past their SLDRs and XHOTs. I will miss their products. At least we can still get their wedges.

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      Simon

      10 years ago

      I can relate to this. I’m fairly new to golf and my cousin, who got me into the game, is a TaylorMade, Titleist fan boy and snubs his nose at Cleveland. He actually assembled my first set. He put an RBZ driver in the bag. For some reason, I never got on with this driver. So I picked up a second hand 290 Classic driver in a stiff shaft. Easily straighter and longer. Easily. Far better feel and sound. And the retro looks are far better than the silly and cheap looking TM graphics on the RBZ.

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      ROD_CCCGOLFUSA

      10 years ago

      Unfortunately, the R&D staff takes the biggest hits in downsizing events. Cleveland’s group has done an industry-leading job in matching driver heads and shafts for optimum results for the recreational golfer (no small feat in this day of the over-long driver). The OEM’s worked with the big box stores to make clubs a commodity, and now marketing and price rule. The big dog in marketing is tour player use, even though the big box consumer will never come close to getting tour level fitting and equipment. Watch for the marketing department to expand as re-branding, not performance, rules the day.

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      Steve Almo

      10 years ago

      Actually Dwayne…the sell thru on the Purple VAS iron was quite good. The woods sucked. I was the guy that called them up (or told the Rep…whatever) and told them to do a Black shafted/black insert VAS and call it the Tour VAS. True story. And those that know me on here know I would do something like that

      The best driver Cleveland ever made was the Launcher in the early 90’s…perfect simplicity. A great design. One of the best IMO.

      http://www.geekgolf.com .

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      Dwayne

      10 years ago

      The Launcher driver head was awesome, and the 588s are nice looking irons, but who can ever forget the dreaded VAS irons with those green and purple inserts in the back cavity. Yikes.

      The Z Star XV , tour yellow, is a great golf ball. I have planted them all across the Michigan lower peninsula. With my sway, spray and pray driver swing, I will personally keep Srixion afloat for years.

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      HardcoreLooper

      10 years ago

      Showing my age here, but the pro I worked for as a high schooler sold tons of Cleveland Classic persimmon woods at our club. I never had one (I was gaming a Sounder back then, anyone remember them – Seve Ballesteros played them, at least long enough to get his name on my club), but all the other guys working in the shop played them. God, those were gorgeous woods.

      I’ve gamed a Cleveland RTG 588 for a decade now. I look forward to Cleveland giving Vokey/Titleist a run for their money in that segment. My new Vokey lob wedge is awfully nice…

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      Steve Almo

      10 years ago

      HCLooper…….Sounder? Remember them? I Rep’ed there for awhile. Worked under Tommy Monihan…one of the best guys in the industry back then. Fair, honest and a ton of integrity. Sounder just never gain a foothold. The Tour Star was a great blade. Their non-players club (can’t reemember the name) was a breakthru type iron. It just never broke thru. Main reason was price across the board. If memory serves they were the most expensive on the market in the USA. I believe their woods were made by the great Jimmy Mick out of San Diego. A perfectionist. One of the most underrated club designers, next to Pat Simmons, in the induistry.

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      Tom Fullerton

      10 years ago

      Interesting thread! I have played both Cleveland and Srixon products over the years. Currently in my bag is a set 3-PW of Srixon i701 irons with Nippon shafts and Lamkin grips. They are in my opinion, one of the best sets I have owned (and I’ve had a few!). These irons are approx. 6 years old and I haven’t found anything currently better to take them out. The Srixon ethos then was to offer top quality components in their clubs. I hope going forward that this will remain. I would not be too concerned that SRI are going to take a dominant role going forward but will also lament the neutering of the Cleveland brand.

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      Steve Sheridan

      10 years ago

      Wow, I read this and had to wonder if somebody at Cleveland stole your girlfriend or your dog. The tone of this article was very mean- spirited in my view. People loose jobs when stuff like this happens. Nobody meant to not succeed! It happens but you don’t bask in it from behind a laptop.
      I agree there will be more of this.Golf is hurting. Heck it might even effect you. Do not worry I will not be happy about it.We all need to survive
      PS No worries I won’t need the newsletter.

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      MFB

      10 years ago

      After the dealing I had with Cleveland Golf’s customer service a few years ago I will never buy another product of theirs, let them go out of business.

      Reply

      Deepak Tomar

      10 years ago

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      drjacko

      10 years ago

      Mr Covey,

      I know the writing crew and I have had run ins before, but is there a reason why the tone of this article was somewhat softer than the Taylormade/Adams expose?

      Is it because it doesn’t tie in with the undercurrent you are reporting: too fast a release cycle? Is it because Taylormade is considered top dog?

      Here is the darndest thing: perhaps the two are related? Taylormade reached top-ranking because of their strategy? And (sadly), they’re not going to be apologetic for pursuing that strategy despite the repercussions now because a)you can see what happened to the smaller fry, b) they are still going to be top dog by a margin?

      And c) the strategy is worth pursuing enough that if they didn’t- Callaway would (and apparently is)?

      And how is this related to this story? Cleveland is a classic company looking backwards over the recent phase (look at their 270cc driver, see iron,putter lines) Their release cycle was “appropriate” by your standards- just not enough to drive innovation/ technology implementation. And that is the paradox: have one bad run for a cycle OR your faithful think your new lines are too much of a radical departure- then you are in a slump for a year or two. Which is what made this too easy to call for Srixon.

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      Mark

      10 years ago

      1. I see a major problem with the high cost of golf equipment preventing new people from entering the game who may not want to undertake a large investment because they have no idea as to: 1) what it takes to play, 2) how long it takes to improve and 3) if they will even like the game. I suggest that anyone who is an avid player, to add up the cost of the 14 clubs they have in their bag, never mind those getting dusty in the garage. Then add the cost of shoes, clothes, push cart, bag and you get the picture along with the cost of playing. As such, the market is shrinking and the more it shrinks, the higher the prices seem to get to offset the loss of revenues.
      2. Sure, a newbie can buy a brand that is only sold online, but that will not add to Cleveland’s or some other brand’s bottom line. Years ago, after having been burned the first time around, I learned that by season’s end, there will be massive discounting of clubs because of the manufacturers wanting to dump inventory to make room for next year’s models. This time around when shopping for new irons, I bought a very nice set used for about half of what it would cost me new. They play no better or worse than a new set and after a few rounds, a new set would get the same blemishes. I simply refused to pay for a new set. The net cost was not very much after selling the old set. That does not add to the manufacturer’s bottom line as well.

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      HardcoreLooper

      10 years ago

      Good resale value DOES help the manufacturer’s bottom line. I find clubs, fall in love with them and play with them for a decade, but plenty of my pals change out their bags on a regular basis. They take a brand’s resale value into account. It’s a whole lot easier to rationalize a $400 driver if you think you can resell it for $200 instead of reselling it for $50 (looking at you, TMAg).

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      txgolfjunkie

      10 years ago

      Srixon is the #2 ball in Europe and Asia. According to their US instagram, they were #2 on tour a few tourneys ago. I’ve kicked out the Pro V1x in favor for the yellow Z Star XV and never looked back. Golf Balls…Check

      Their new driver is legit (I’m a lefty but I play with a guy who is a rep and swears by it). Their irons look pretty good and if they are anything like the 506, then they should be pretty good. Driver and irons….check

      As far as the new Cleveland wedges go (due out in Sept), they don’t feel any different than the ones currently on the shelves going for a cheaper price. The cavity back wedges are some of the best I’ve hit in awhile. Wedges….check

      The two areas that need improvement in the Cleveland/Srixon family is fairway woods/hybrids and putters. I’m sorry but the Cleveland/Never Compromise lines aren’t as good as the other big dogs in the putting world and I haven’t heard anyone rave about a cleveland hybrid in 5+ years.

      I’m rooting for the R&D dept at cleveland/srixon to produce some great woods and irons in the next few years.

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      markb

      10 years ago

      Adams consolidated, perhaps soon to be eliminated. Cleveland reduced down to their one segment that sells with the Japanese parent sliding into their shelf space vacuum.

      My only question is who is next and will we see the news before the weekend or on Monday morning?

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      Andy Hilbun

      10 years ago

      Let’s hope the Cleveland brand does stay around in some way, shape or form. I have played two of the HiBore hybrids for a long time and love them. I purchased a set of the HB3 irons (3-PW) about two months ago and they have resurrected my iron game. Let’s hope we dont lose a company that isnt afraid of innovation that benefits the average golfer. The folks at Callaway and TM with their “new club every week” mentality are ridiculous.

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      Tom

      10 years ago

      this explains a lot.. whilst in north myrtle beach a few weeks ago, pga tour superstore has brand new 588 wedges on sale for $58/each. i bought three ’cause i’m a sucka and that deal was great for new grooves!!! however, the 52 gap was mis-weighted and absolutely horrible. the 56 is just ok, and the 60 is great (for spin not accuracy). i think their forgeing process on these wedges is probably very poor, leaving bubbles or holes in the metal or some other irregularities that a good player can sense. my callaway MD wedges were way better. in fact, i am removing these clevelands from my bag today and putting my callaway’s back in. the 60 doesn’t have the grooves it did, but the accuracy worth it in spades.

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      Jacob-Tx

      10 years ago

      As Much As I : Love Cleveland Golf –

      I have CG1 Black Pearls, CG Red, CG Tour – All in LEFTY. All but Cameron (putter) of course !.
      All have custom shafts, from UST 95g, 7.0 Project X in Wedges (CG12-love the ‘plain jane’), and varying great brands in the woods, it’s been nothing short of :

      Pure FOLLEY – getting their customer service to send me Shipping Labels.
      I wanted to get some of my old CG1s bent / 3 iron needed 1 degree less ‘lie’.
      I called them 4-6 times, each time getting the guarantee they would be here.

      Either they’re lazy, don’t like the Tx, or can’t really perform the work.
      Sadly, i’ve given up with having the clubs sent in, and i’m making other adjustments (grip, re-sharpening wedge grooves).

      Oh well.

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      Joe Golfer

      10 years ago

      Seems like your local golf shop could bend the lie angle of your irons “while you wait” if you are just doing a few clubs, or within a day if you have several clubs.
      And it would cost a lot less than shipping them off to Cleveland, which isn’t going to do it for you for free anyway.
      The big box stores like Golf Galaxy, Golfsmith, PGA Superstore, all do this service.
      Local pro shops should also be able to do it.
      Just do a dynamic fitting, hitting shots off a lie board while you have some “lie angle” tape on the sole, which will tell you exactly how much of a “lie” change you need. Rule of thumb: A 1/4″ off center is usually a one degree of change. If the mark is towards the toe from center, make it more upright. If towards the heel from center, then make it more flat.
      Then just re-hit after they make the adjustments, to make sure you are making contact at center of sole. My local Golf Galaxy even allows you to come back (within a reasonable amount of time) and they will re-do the alterations if you feel the lie angle is not correct yet.

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      Steve Almo

      10 years ago

      JACOBtx…You stated “Old CG1’s” bent. Why should Cleveland pay for the shipping…that seems totally unresonable of you. Unless I am missing aomething?

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      TwoSolitudes

      10 years ago

      This makes me very sad. I have been a big fan of Cleveland woods for a long time. Launcher, the still truly excellent HiboreXL, the CG Black and now the Classic Custom. All superb. Between this and the Callaway story today I am pretty depressed about the state of golf.

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      Simon

      10 years ago

      Srixon balls sell in the UK, AD333 and Soft Feel customers just ask for the blue or green boxes, that’s how popular they are… Cleveland irons and woods not so much… Wedges fly off the shelf… think they are right to focus on their strengths…

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      Fozcycle

      10 years ago

      Yeah, I wish the AD333 was still sold in the US…..I thought they were a terrific 2 piece ball. Somehow SRI decided to pull them and replace them with the Q Stars.

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      Gil B.

      10 years ago

      I started out in golf as a King Cobra guy, the whole set. I bought a few of their newly created irons and woods for a few years until I stumbled upon the Cleveland brand. I tried and bought the irons. Loved them. I then bought the driver and fairway woods. Loved them too. I’ve been playing various sets of Cleveland clubs for about 15 years. Loved them all. Notice I said “loved”. Over the past few years a noticeable downturn in quality has reared it’s ugly head. The “Launcher” line was the epitome of quality clubs in my view and I’ll never part with them. I hope they last a few more years in my bag. However, the last several releases of new and improved clubs just aren’t new and improved. The drivers and fairway woods are clunky, harsh, not worth the metal their made out of. Also, to my dismay, their wedges, again in my opinion, have nose dived in terms of quality. I’ve purchased several new wedges and have been very disappointed in them. It’s sad to say but as I’ve mentioned numerous times in this comment section that I am a Cleveland devotee but just like anything in life, when you get lousy food more than once at your favorite restaurant, it’s time to look for a new restaurant. I sincerely hope SRI management will do something to breath new life in the Cleveland Golf company but I fear those days are gone. The last item I will mention is the customer service people at Cleveland. Over the years I’ve called them several times and they have been kind and professional in every way. Kudos to them.

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      Dan

      10 years ago

      Does anyone now if they are going to be sold in golf stores like the PGA Superstore, Golfsmith, etc. I don’t see anywhere even online where you can buy them especially their drivers. Thanks, Dan.

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      Pete Melissis

      10 years ago

      I’ve been using and still use Cleveland CG1 forged Blades and swear they are the best irons I’ve eve hit consitant distances and control…I also use the Cg12 wedges same thing..I finally switched Drivers after 4 yrs of loving my Hi Bore woods…Started losing distance Now realize it was me getting older losing flex…now trying TM Burner and RBZ these are giving me my old distances…but I’m working out too so not sure if its the clubs

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      Barbajo

      10 years ago

      Picked up a set of 4 year old Srixon Z-TX forged cavity-backed irons a couple of months ago and loved them so much they kicked the MP-59’s out of the bag!

      Businesses must continually evolve – and although it’s sad that Cleveland appears to be bowing out of the mainstream, it is what it is. Cleveland’s equipment has always been top notch IMO – the 588 CB’s and MB’s are as good as anything out there – but their marketing has seemingly been below average.

      So yes, marketing does matter ;-)

      Srixon and Bridgestone will surely make 2015 an interesting equipment year!

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      Michael

      10 years ago

      This does sadden me.

      I’ve tried and bagged many, many clubs over the years, but I keep coming back to Cleveland drivers and fairway woods, and, of course, wedges.

      I’m not sure how this has happend, but business is business, and consumer expectations have changed. Maybe Srixon will be the new Cleveland with a solid focus on high quality woods and drivers. Well have to wait and see.

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      stogiesnbogies

      10 years ago

      I play the Cleveland HB3 hybrid iron set and several of the Niblicks as well as the Smart Sole S Wedge and love them!!

      However, I also fall into their target category of “senior” player seeking super game improvement clubs so there is indeed much truth to this articles assessment of Cleveland’s market……I also agree that Adams Golf future will much effect Cleveland , alas Adams deserved a better fate since they wisely have always targeted the bigger Senior/ super game improvement market over the vastly smaller “Better Player” market. (think Titleist , for example).
      Methinks, perhaps Adams Golf follows a similar model under TM …..Adams continues to target the same market as Cleveland ( seniors/ super game improvement crowd) while TM competes with Srixon , Titleist, etc. for the “better player” market. Something akin to the best of both worlds? LOL

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      ryebread

      10 years ago

      I’m in the same boat as you — Cleveland hybrid irons and wedges. I’ve tried everything and that’s what works the best.

      I hope Cleveland can step up and fill the niche that TM departs with Adams. As the golfing community ages, it will be very important.

      As for the rest of this, the hand writing has been on the wall for a while now. The drivers, FWs, hybrids, irons, etc. just don’t sell. The wedges and hybrid irons do and the latter is a very niche product.

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      Roger Boyd

      10 years ago

      I was the Srixon golf rep for N. Texas for 12 years. I was one of 16 reps that made the move from Srixon to Cleveland/Srixon. At that time Srixon had 50 company golf reps, 34 lost their jobs due to the merger. From a personal standpoint I feel like the demise of Cleveland was due to two people, Greg Hopkins, CEO/ President and Eddie Drye, National Sales Mgr. In my opinion these two individuals viewed SRI as a cash cow and spent money like there was no end to it!!
      Hopkins is gone and Eddie was reduced to a regional mgr. I would not want to be in his region, because I could not trust him. I have never seen two men that had absolutely n
      Had no integrity!! I worked for over 25 years as a golf rep in N. Texas living by the following:”Integerity means doing what is right, even though it is no popular. Popularity allows you to live with others, but Integerity allows you to live with yourself!”

      Roger Boyd

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      golfercraig

      10 years ago

      If not for Hopkins and Drye everyone at Cleveland would have been fired. Puma had already submitted their bid, and had board approval. Hopkins was working behind the scenes to protect the jobs of all the people he could once he found out Puma was letting everyone go and going with an entirely new workforce. The SRI offer was bombshell at the board meeting to vote on Puma as the new owner, The reason most of the Srixon reps were let go is because most of them were not very efficient with their time. As someone who had to deal with Srixon, and as ne of their bigger accounts, I promise you that SRI was much better to work with once Hopkins was in charge. Every time a decision was made under the Cleveland umbrella by the Srixon guys it backfired.

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      Steve Almo

      10 years ago

      Two different perspectives on Cleveland. I truly relate to Roger as I was an independent Rep for many years. I worked for many companies over the years and worked and knew some of the finest people in the golf biz and the worst in upper management. The worst being Jerry Hyde of Dexter Golf Shoes. He had absolutely no integrity at all. Cleveland forgot what got them there……the entire basis of that company was Wedges. They should have NEVER let that biz get away from them. They owned that biz at one time. Big error there.

      http://www.geekgolf.com

      Fozcycle

      10 years ago

      Sorry to hear, but as a sub-group of Srixon, they should still be profitable. As for Srixon, their Z Star has proved to be a terrific golf ball.

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      AWOL

      10 years ago

      Yeah I loved the z-star. At my club one of the employees is on staff with Callaway he said if it wasnt for getting all the free Callaway balls he would switch to Srixon.

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      Boss

      10 years ago

      I bought a set of Cleveland 588 TT irons awhile back after using S55’s and then I25’s. I never quite got the consistency needed from the S55’s/I25’s and had always been a good iron player. I tried the TT’s by mistake in a practice cage, thinking I had the Nike Covert Forged. The cage was dim and my vision isn’t great up close…the TT was leaning up against the cage and I placed the Nike Forged next to it while doing some stretching.
      After hitting 50 balls I’m my flightscope test, and about 45 dead center perfect on the face, I was pretty impressed with the Nike Covert forged and was going to pull the trigger. Until I saw that somehow I’d managed to grab a 588 TT. I hadn’t even considered Cleveland so it threw me a bit. I then hit my intended test club, the actual Covert Forged, not nearly as well. I overcame my Cleveland hesitation and pulled the trigger.
      Irons are very personal and these work amazingly well for me. The Pings are great, but not the fit for me. I own a G30 8* setting driver that I average 303 on trackman and on the course…so I do love Ping….but the Cleveland irons were more workable and I didn’t miss on the toe half the time like the Pings.
      Cleveland just didn’t have the dollars to play the golf game right. I suspect there are a few companies out there making GREAT equipment that the average consumer doesn’t even know exists….
      I’ll be keeping my 588 TT’s for a LONG time…my search is over.

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      RAT

      10 years ago

      I have the Srixon i506 irons and love them .They have the Project X 5.5 shafts . Kick it gear Srixon and show the others whose BOSS.

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      golfercraig

      10 years ago

      SRI has done a despicable job of making the consumer aware of the tour presence of the Srixon balls. It is really a great success story, but no one knows it.

      Also, Cleveland’s great run of drivers and Nike’s new great run of woods have a distinct link. The man is a genius, and a great engineer.

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      DrewT

      10 years ago

      Can we create running scorecard of Viable Companies…and rank them on rumors affecting their existence?

      Here’s My Rankings>
      Callaway (current stories aside, I don;’t think they are going anywhere)
      Taylor Made (If Adidas sold they would keep going, right?)
      Titlist
      Ping
      Cobra (If Puma sold would they go away?)
      Srixon (lets just call this re-bradning..yes its sad Cleveland is an iconic brand in USA but really we are just re branding them and getting a new younger brand instead)
      Nike (going to last until Nike Corp deems not profitable)

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      Zach

      10 years ago

      Cleveland doesn’t need to make drivers anymore. They have Johnny Football.

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      tom S

      10 years ago

      Nyuk nyuk

      Reply

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