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I Want To See Tour Players Make More Bogeys

As I was watching the Cognizant Classic last weekend, I found myself disappointed in the lack of carnage at PGA National.

For many years, PGA National was a reliable bringer of pain. From 2007 to 2020, the winner reached double-digit under-par just three times in the 14 years, which is pretty astounding.

Now it’s been six consecutive years with a double-digit under-par winner. Joe Highsmith reached 19-under in 2025 and then Nico Echavarria just won at 17-under this past week.

The course difficulty has gone from firmly in the top 10 to well outside the top 20.

There are some concrete reasons for this. PGA National has changed to overseed which is a fancy way of saying that it’s greener and softer than previous years. The once gnarly rough is much shorter and more forgiving than it was. And the tournament changed the par-4 10th into the par-5 10th, artificially boosting the under-par total by four strokes.

It’s clear there was a push to make the course easier. It’s a layout with a lot of water so that is understandable to a certain point.

But a week like this one underscores an issue I have with PGA Tour golf.

The winning scores this season? 16-under (Sony), 27-under (Palm Springs), 23-under (Torrey), 16-under (WM Phoenix), 22-under (Pebble), 18-under (Riviera) and 17-under (PGA National).

Not a single challenging layout or setup so far.

These are the best players in the world so why aren’t we testing them like it?

Fans enjoy watching pros battle

I’m an advocate for balance in professional golf.

Of course, it’s fun to watch guys shoot 25-under. Seeing someone on 59 watch is enthralling.

That’s great for some tournaments. Maybe even the majority. I’m not advocating for that type of shootout to go away completely.

It just feels like every week is target practice. Like if a guy doesn’t shoot 68, he’s falling well behind the pack.

And, yes, there are reasons outside the Tour’s control why some of these courses are so gettable. As is the case with PGA National, they don’t own many of the venues. Different owners might want the course to look a certain way to drive more recreational play.

But a lot of times, the Tour is making setup decisions like cutting down the rough, slowing the greens or generally overwatering the course to make it softer.

Look no further than TPC Sawgrass—a course the Tour does own—where conditions have been getting progressively easier for the Players Championship since the move back to March.

The vast majority of Tour venues are following the Sawgrass lead and are not being set up for difficulty.

I would push for more struggle—particularly in more important events.

It’s one of the reasons the U.S. Open is so refreshing. If a guy has a three-shot lead, you never know what is going to happen because bogeys (or worse) are very much in play on basically every hole.

These are the best players in the world so let’s test them like it.

It’s not all about the final score but it’s definitely about the test. Is their patience being tested? Are bad shots being punished?

I would watch more if those answers were a resounding yes.

The blurry line between great course and dramatic host

One thing I’ve wrestled with as a golf fan is that the Venn diagram of great courses and courses that produce dramatic tournaments don’t overlap as much as we would like them to. 

It’s not always the case but these harder venues often are creating more separation at the top of the leaderboard rather than producing great finishes.

I appreciate that. I like watching guys get tested.

The end result is often a boring back nine—but the path to reach that point is more enticing.

This is true of so many majors in recent memory. The U.S. Open hasn’t had a playoff since 2008, one of the signs that the top of the leaderboard tends to separate from the pack. 

And it’s hard to square that with the two golf courses we see to start the Florida Swing. 

Look, I’m from Florida. The Honda Classic (now the Cognizant Classic) was my hometown event that I went to every year. I regularly attended Bay Hill as well. 

PGA National and Bay Hill did not take much design brilliance. No golf architect nerd would argue otherwise. They are your standard fare of Florida course built amongst real estate. Their primary design feature is, “Hey, here’s a ton of water and rough. Don’t hit it there.” 

Yet these courses somehow invite dramatic finishes year after year. We just saw it with Shane Lowry collapsing late on the Bear Trap.

Few players can get around unscathed so the leaderboard tends to congregate. As I mentioned, PGA National has gotten easier the past few years but Bay Hill is one of the least forgiving courses on Tour.

The rough is high and penalty areas are everywhere

Would I like to play Bay Hill? Nope. You can have my tee time. I’ll drive over to Winter Park 9 instead.

But watching the pros play Bay Hill? It’s not Augusta or Riviera but it is compelling TV to see them struggle so much, even if the reward/punishment scale for good/bad shots is far from perfect. 

I just want to see them uncomfortable mentally.

We’re in an era where there are very few ballbuster Tour courses out there. Not enough, I say. Bay Hill is one that works effectively, even if the course looks like something I would have designed while not paying attention during my high school math class. 

If Bay Hill was soft and easy, I would be less likely to watch. It’s fun when the winner is 5-under every once in a while.

I say let’s bring some pain now and then.

Do you agree or disagree? Let me know below in the comments.

Top Photo Caption: Collin Morikawa hits a tee shot on the par-4 15th at Bay Hill. (GETTY IMAGES/Keyur Khamar)

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Sean Fairholm

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Sean is a longtime golf journalist and underachieving 10 handicap who enjoys the game in all forms. If he didn't have an official career writing about golf, Sean would spend most of his free time writing about it anyway. When he isn't playing golf, you can find Sean watching his beloved Florida Panthers hockey team, traveling to a national park or listening to music on his record player. He lives in Nashville with his wife, Anja, and dog, Hogan.

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      Sean

      5 months ago

      The PGA tour are to blame for poor, boring courses and easy setups.

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      mg

      5 months ago

      5 1/2 hour 2 somes. Making the course tougher will lead to more ridiculous conversations between player and caddie ensuring 7 hour rounds of televised golf. Cadillac and the other ad boys will love it.

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      Aidan

      5 months ago

      Golf is the one sport where fans want to see failure so they can feel better about their game. Lol

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      Krauter

      5 months ago

      I don’t know if I’d say carnage, but some tournaments where the winning score is <12 under, other than the US Open, would be nice. The TOUR can't let the top players dictate course setup, and they need to have penalizing rough, dammit!

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      Krauter

      5 months ago

      I don’t know if I’d say carnage, but some tournaments where the winning score is <12 under, other than the US Open, would be nice. The TOUR can't let the top players dictate course setup, and they need to have penalizing rough, dammit!

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      Jim

      5 months ago

      I totally agree- the pros play on courses that 99.99% of golfers never experience. Driver, wedge, putt is very boring to watch. Soften the fairways, increase the size and length of the rough, and firm up the greens. Where possible make greens smaller. And yes watching a match on TV is when the top scores are 10 or more strokes under par is boring.

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      Roger

      5 months ago

      To me, the problem is $$$$. Television wants theirs, and the golfers want theirs. If the PGA sets up the course, they dictate ease or severity. Tougher challenges are welcome. The Pro’s still get the same money for first place minus 20 or even par. It’s all controlled by money and the weathersometimes.

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      LiamC

      5 months ago

      Agree in part, but the weather has played a big part in Pebble & Riviera being easier to score on. If your drive is slightly off line but fairways are soft & placing is on, that cuts the percentage of balls running into the rough down. They’re then hitting of perfect lies with placing. None of it their fault.
      The one thing that does surprise me is the ‘first cut’, it’s negligible & should be longer.
      As for equipment being better, so is green keeping equipment. Greens run like billiard tables, fairways are manicured to perfection, with very few bad lies.
      The only thing that can be done is longer tougher rough & the use of more tighter tree lined courses. As so many are now pretty wide open stadium courses.
      Either way, I still enjoy watching, be it 25 under or 1 over.

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      Scott

      5 months ago

      Tighten fairways and shrink greens. If tour player get to have shot spotters (and markers) then lengthen the rough. Leave piles of grass clippings out there or skip mowing the green one day. Have a poorly replaced plug in a former cup location. How about an uneven tee box????

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      LD

      5 months ago

      Maybe shrink the driver head so players aren’t turning every par 4 into driver / wedge…. ? Or roll the ball back (more than the 10-15 yards contemplated and currently being pushed out). Conspicuously absent from the article.

      PGA Tour driving distance average is up 15 yards since 2005. That is one club (or more). Iron technology has improved as well (albeit at a slower rate than driver). Over the course of 72 holes, one club on every hole will make a several shot difference. Shorter clubs into greens, more hit greens. And more hazards flown and corners cut.

      Or we can get articles like this that don’t mention distance while August and St. Andrews have to add new tee boxes and places like Pebble and Merion get completely neutered. Pebble is going to need 8-inch rough to be “US Open-difficult” for players at next year’s US Open.

      Look at the equipment. It’s like MLB players going to metal bats and then saying pitching has gotten worse.

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      Adam

      5 months ago

      Rare to see this on the MGS website. Could not agree more, LD! The game is currently so out of balance. The reason this week is a compelling test (even if it’s not a compelling venue) is that the pros are required to hit long irons onto firm greens, and if they are in the rough, controlling their spin is near impossible, so there is an actual penalty for missing the fairway. Roll the ball back, shrink the driver head, and you’ll see the actual ball strikers be rewarded. Not to mention we’ll be able to enjoy the pros playing compelling venues again.

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      Paul C

      5 months ago

      I agree, but with bifurcation make it harder for pros and high level amateurs, not the average golfer.

      Depending where you look only 50% of golfers regularly break 100, one of the biggest complaints is pace of play, making it harder, and scoring harder for everyone doesn’t speed things up.

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      Big Dick Swinging

      5 months ago

      400 yard par 2s.

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      Ron

      5 months ago

      MAKE THEM TOUGHER !!!!!!

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      EMacK1961

      5 months ago

      I want to see a fair test of these guys’ abilities. A birdie fest is not exciting to watch. The US Open is almost too punishing whereas the Cognizant went the other way. A balance of risk/reward is good. I want to see guys have to scramble a bit if they get into trouble.

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      Isaiah

      5 months ago

      It would be nice to see more of the players shooting it out and the players 15 strokes back. Right now, the commutators and know-it-a;; play by play announcers time on the air has doubled along with commercial . Not worth my time to watch anymore!

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      Joe Parent

      5 months ago

      While the last few tournaments have all had exciting endings, I personally would rather see these pros challenged a lot more. While weather especially winds can play a big part in the unpredictability of the out come, I would love to see narrower fairways with more cutouts of infringing rough areas and two layers of rough with the first cut not being very generous and the second cut being more penalizing. It’s scary enough that these guys are hitting 7 irons 190-200 yards and 8 irons 170-185 yards that the roughs need to be more penalizing. Today’s drivers are more accurate than ever before, and matched with these players skill levels 300+ yards is now the norm. So maybe more traps at those distances, more trees (which are much needed anyways). The skill of these players need to be tested more often than not. I am all in on toughening up the courses for these guys to play. They don’t need to be a Shinnecock or Pinehurst #2 but they surely should be toughened up for some of these events.

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      Jimmy

      5 months ago

      I don’t disagree with your assessment about the regular tour events. I do not have a problem at all with the pros shooting 20 plus under for a weekend event. But I do have a problem with is when the Majors make it easy for the guys. If the winning score at the major is going to be 16 under then that is not compelling to me. It is four tournaments a year where it best players in the world have to be challenged and may the best and/or luckiest come out on top. To me the only true major is the U.S. Open. The other three majors should learn from the USGA.

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      Mark R

      5 months ago

      Tighten up the fairways and let the rough grow long. I want to see PGA tour pro’s sweating out their next shot. The magic happens when pros get out of trouble with great shots. Watching a pro go driver-wedge for a birdie is BORING TV.

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      Jim S

      5 months ago

      Agreed, they don’t even show most of the shots any more. It’s just putt-putt-commercial-more putting. Rather watch the women’s tour, it’s more relatable.

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      Nate

      5 months ago

      I’ve never really understood why we are saying we want players to play worse. In no other sport do we say, “Man these guys are just too good, I wish they would struggle more.” I understand trying to relate to these guys because its golf, but why can’t we just admire how surgical they are? Maybe I’m in the minority on this but seeing them shoot -25 doesn’t make it any less entertaining for me to watch than if the winner shoots -1.

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      Fake

      5 months ago

      I’m not the first person to say this, but par doesn’t really matter at their level. It’s just a matter of who wins with the least amount of strokes. Shane Lowry just lost, other golfers lose comfortable leads all the time. No such thing as a sure thing.

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      Will

      5 months ago

      Petty opinions like this are what’s behind the absolute idiocy of the ball rollback, 300 yard par 3s, etc. They’re pros. They’re going to play well. That isn’t a problem. If you want to watch someone suffer through a round, check YouTube.

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      Cape May Pete

      5 months ago

      It’s not about suffering and of course they will play well. But you have to admit, if you understand anything about golf, that players hitting driver/wedge on every par 4 or Driver/8 iron on every par 5 is not good professional golf. THAT is YouTube golf. What’s needed are course set ups and yes equipment changes that challenge the professionals to use their skills (unless you’ve eaten the Titleist propaganda like MGS, you know that for PROS a ball that doesn’t fly as far or spins more and smaller driver heads will separate the players from the bombers). Historically important courses with really interesting features are no obsolete and people who care about golf are poorer bc we can’t see them play there anymore. (And then places like PGA National make their courses easier to placate the pampered PGA Tour players who whine and moan if they can’t make 9 birdies a round.) The ball speed imposters who mash the ball don’t do well on courses that ask different questions — on courses that require more types of shots from the tee, fairway and around the greens. Courses that have penalties for poor ball striking. That is much more enjoyable golf to watch than the boring ass TPC Craig Ranch type nonsense we get most weeks. It’s why when US Open course are set up properly we love the scores to be near par for 4 rounds. They are unfair set ups, they are courses that challenge the best PLAYERS in the world, not the highest ball speed mashers. Maybe listen to pods like The Fried Egg to learn more about the history of golf and courses (oh no I told you what to do, so now you have to lash out. Oh well.)

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      Will

      5 months ago

      I. Don’t. Care. Low scores are not a real problem. No course is “obsolete.” It’s absurd to suggest it. The “problem” is in your head.

      Adam

      5 months ago

      It’s not that we like to see pros suffer through a round; it’s that we like to see impressive ball striking properly rewarded and poor ball striking revealed.

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      Madarron

      5 months ago

      Lately golf just seems to reward the longest shot, rather than the more precise shot. These guys are the best, but often on the tee box, they just swing as hard as possible and are not too worried about where it lands. The wide, soft fairways, low rough and lack of hazards in the landing zone mean there are few penalties for hitting it 50 yards offline. Similarly, bunkers for most of these players offer little challenge, which is why I love the UK links courses where accuracy is rewarded, and flailing is punished.

      I don’t necessarily want to see scores of +3 but -20 seems pointless.

      The one benefit of -20 is less shots per player means that the rounds are quicker. Imagine what it would be like if they were all hitting 75 shots or more a round.

      Lately golf just seems to reward the longest shot, rather than the more precise shot and

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