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LIV, the Saudis and Performance54

The next time you tee it up with your semi-regular foursome, it’s a fair bet that, by the turn if not before, the conversation will turn to LIV. The thrust-and-parry between the PGA TOUR and LIV Golf continues unabated. Each week brings a new twist, turn, press conference or cast change. A LIV contingent acquitted themselves well in the shortened BMW PGA Championship in the UK this past weekend which, due to the death of Queen Elizabeth, was shortened to 54 holes. That was a DP World Tour event but, if the Tour holds true to its word, none of the LIV jumpers will be welcomed back.

Greg Norman and the Saudi backers of LIV are making their intentions clear. They will be—in fact, already are—a disruptive force in professional golf. And they have a bottomless well of money to remain so for the long haul.

So far, the talk has been about the sport of professional golf. There is another element to this story that’s a little closer to the game of golf that we play. And that’s the Saudis’ growing interest in recreational golf, golf tourism and the world of golf information and social media.

A story making the rounds several weeks ago painted a fascinating picture linking the Saudis with a high-powered golf PR firm in the UK. What made the story juicy was an additional connection to three of golf’s leading social media influencers. Our article today is the result of a detailed investigation by MyGolfSpy in an effort to put that story into its proper context.

Things, as the saying goes, aren’t always what they seem.

LIV, the Saudis and Performance54

Several weeks ago, thePNUK.com YouTube channel posted a series of videos detailing a spider’s web of connections between three high-profile YouTube golf content creators/influencers and Saudi business interests. The three YouTube/social media personalities named were Rick Shiels, Peter Finch and the Jazzy Golfer, all based in the UK. Everything in PNUK’s videos was public information and readily verifiable on the Gov.UK Companies House website. Despite that fact, all of the videos were taken down by YouTube following defamation complaints (you can watch an overview here).

At the center of the web is a company called Performance54.

Established in 2015, Performance54 is a high-powered golf-specific public relations, marketing and management firm. Performance54 is relatively unknown in the U.S. but has become a global golf mover and shaker. The company has offices throughout the Middle East and Asia and opened operations in North America this year.

The PNUK video claimed Saudi business interests now own a majority share of Performance54. Through publicly available records, MyGolfSpy was able to confirm that.

Performance54 and the Saudis

The Social Network

As mentioned, everything in the PNUK video is publicly verifiable and the video itself was substantively accurate. It did not, however, include a timeline or context. Without either, it would be easy to reach inaccurate—and potentially unfair—conclusions about the relationships between Shiels, Finch and the Jazzy Golfer and the Saudis.

MyGolfSpy verified that Performance54 does hold a minority ownership stake in Rick Shiels Media Limited, Peter Finch Golf Media LTD and The Jazzy Golfer. Shiels is YouTube’s most popular golf content creator with more than 2.2 million subscribers, Finch is ranked eighth and The Jazzy Golfer is 149th.

Shiels first signed with Performance54 as a client in 2016. At that time, Shiels was a rising YouTube star with more than 200,000 subscribers. Rick Shiels LTD was incorporated in June 2016. According to documents found in Companies House, Shiels held 670 of the 1,000 shares of that original company. The remaining 330 were owned by Performance54. Rick Shiels Media Limited was created a year and a half later. Its most recent confirmation statement, dated June 28, 2019, shows the same distribution of shares.

A Mutually Beneficial Partnership

It’s reasonable to presume the partnership agreement was a mutual show of faith by both parties. That faith proved prescient. Since joining forces with Performance54, Shiels has grown in both reach and reputation. His YouTube channel alone reportedly generates more than $2 million in revenue. The company’s balance sheet is also a public record on Companies House. It shows net assets increasing from $119,000 (converted from pounds sterling) in 2019 to more than $827,000 a year later.

MyGolfSpy also confirmed that Performance54 owns 40 percent of Peter Finch’s Finch Golf Media LTD (more than 500,000 YouTube subscribers) and 24.5 percent (not the 49 percent reported by thePNUK) of the Jazzy Golfer.

It’s important to note that all three of these business arrangements predate any changes in Performance54 ownership detailed later in this article. In response to a MyGolfSpy inquiry, Rick Shiels sent us the following statement:

“I have been in partnership with Performance54, a global sports marketing agency, since 2016.  Since then, the team at Performance54 has supported various aspects of Rick Shiels Media, including commercial partnerships, business strategy and management, as well as supporting the delivery of some of my charity initiatives, including the YT Golf Day and Walk 150.”

Rick Shiels

Putting It All Into Context

We also reached out to Peter Finch and the Jazzy Golfer for a response. Here’s Finch’s statement:

“I’ve worked with P54 for the past seven years and we formalized this arrangement pre-pandemic in 2020 as a new business of which I am the majority shareholder with decision-making control. P54’s role within Finch Golf Media is primarily focused on commercial partnerships. The decision on which amazing partners my team and I work with is always based on whether they add value to those that watch and support the channels.

 I have always placed the greatest value on editorial integrity of which P54 has always been supportive. The decision on what content is created and released on the channels is my own. 

I am eternally grateful for the unwavering support from all my partners and the incredible global audience that follows my channels. We’re on an amazing journey and there is lots to be excited about in the years ahead.”

Performance54

And we received this statement from the Jazzy Golfer:

“I started my career in golf in 2019 when I created my business and formed my partnership with Performance54.

Over the past three years, P54’s network, knowledge, experience and professionalism have been of great value to me. P54 has been a huge support of my mission to drive positive change across the sport, and in particular for Women and Juniors.

My strategic partnership with P54 has been focused on successfully developing commercial partnerships. I am the only ‘person with significant control’ over my business and therefore anything related to my business is not influenced, controlled or directed by anyone other than myself.”

As you can see, all three relationships predate the January 2021 takeover of Performance54 by Saudi interests.

In full disclosure, MyGolfSpy is owned 100 percent by Adam Beach.

Rick Shiels and Peter Finch

Who Is Performance54?

As mentioned, Performance54 is a golf PR powerhouse headquartered in Reading, England. It was established in 2015 by Jed Moore and partners Matt Selby and Gary Davidson. Prominent clients include Titleist, FootJoy, Troon Golf, FlightScope, Faldo Enterprises, Spain’s Infinitum Golf Resort (with two Greg Norman-designed courses), Ireland’s Adare Manor (site of the 2026 Ryder Cup) and The Gary Player Invitational (a series of celebrity charity golf events).

Titleist confirmed Acushnet UK hired Performance54 for media, PR and media buying in 2016. Titleist told MyGolfSpy that Performance54 remains a media buying consultant for Acushnet operations in the UK and Europe but added that media and PR services will be brought in-house by the end of this year.

Performance54

Performance54 director Gary Davidson responded via email to questions posed by MyGolfSpy for this article.

“P54 has worked all over the world since being incorporated in 2015, including throughout Asia, the Middle East and Europe working directly with governments, destinations, events, brands and investors,” Davidson said.

Davidson said Performance54 was successful in a competitive bid process to work with the Saudi Golf Federation in 2018. “P54 supported the (Saudi Golf Federation’s) key pillar framework, in partnership with the Boston Consulting Group, that encompassed mass participation, tourism, developments, events, elite player programs and sustainability framework.”

Performance54 Ownership Changes

By 2020, Moore had brought more partners into Performance54. But in January of 2021, the entirety of the company’s shares was moved into a new corporation called Performance54 Group Limited (you can search the public records here). At the time of incorporation, Golf Saudi LLC was the sole shareholder. Majed Al Sorour, the chief executive of the Saudi Golf Federation, was listed as the only director.

The remainder of the board of directors was appointed a month later. Joining Al Sorour and the original Performance 54 shareholders were Abdullah Abduljabbar and Nesreen Othman Alzamil. In January of this year, Performance54 Group Limited issued a new Confirmation Statement. The new ownership structure shows a total of 10,001 shares. The Sanabil Private Equity Investments Company owns 5,001 shares. The remaining 5,000 shares are owned by Moore and his original team of partners. Interestingly, Golf Saudi LLC is listed as a stakeholder but holds no shares.

Performance54

The new company’s first publicly available balance sheet for the year ending in April 2021 shows net assets of nearly $16 million. The final balance sheet for the original Performance54 showed just over $3.3 million in net assets.

Who Is Sanabil?

Sanabil Private Equity Investments is based in Saudi Arabia. According to its website, Sanabil invests up to $2 billion annually all over the globe. Abdullah Abduljabbar is listed on Sanabil’s website as CEO. Sanabil’s board chairman is Yasir Bin Othman Al-Rumayyan. A Harvard Business School graduate, Al-Rumayyan is also chairman of the state-owned Saudi Aramco oil company. As of this past May, Saudi Aramco passed Apple as the largest company on the planet with a net worth of nearly $330 billion. In its latest financial report, Saudi Aramco posted Q2 profits in excess of $48 billion.

Al-Rumayyan is also listed as chairman of Newcastle United, the English football club purchased by the Saudis last year for $409 million. Most importantly, Al-Rumayyan is governor of the Public Investment Fund of Saudi Arabia. The Public Investment Fund is better known as PIF—the same PIF that funds the LIV Golf Tour.

Greg Norman

How Did The Saudi Buy-In Happen?

Why did Sanabil want to buy into Performance54? Davidson says he can’t speak for Sanabil directly but the three-year relationship between Saudi Golf and Performance54 certainly played a role.

“P54 has been recognized as an innovative and pioneering golf and sports marketing agency,” he explains. “(It) was the first sports marketing agency to feature in the top 12 of the Sunday Times Fast-Track 100 which recognizes the fastest-growing privately held companies in the UK. I would suspect this strong business performance, coupled with our track record of delivery for our clients, was a factor.”

We did ask Davidson how Performance54 is able to reconcile working with the Saudis in light of human rights concerns in that country. Here is his reply, verbatim:

“As a golf agency, we believe wholeheartedly in the sport’s ability to have a long-lasting, positive impact on societies, communities, people and the environment. Through many of the initiatives we have been involved in with Golf Saudi, we have seen that positive impact touching real lives and are hopeful it will continue to grow for many years to come as Golf Saudi works towards its primary objective to develop a thriving golf industry within Saudi Arabia.”

For the record, here is a link to the most recent Amnesty International report on human rights in Saudi Arabia.

Performance54, Saudi Golf and the Americas

As mentioned, Performance54 handles PR for several Saudi golf initiatives. Golf and tourism are key components of Vision 2030, the Saudi government’s program to reduce the kingdom’s dependence on oil, diversify its economy and create jobs. The golf initiatives cited to us by Davidson include:

  • Golf Saudi’s inclusion as a signatory of the UN Sport for Climate Framework
  • A collaboration between Golf Saudi and the European Disabled Golf Association
  • A program with the Ministry of Education and the Saudi Sports Schools Federation to include golf as part of the curriculum
  • Creation of the Ladies First Club to provide free coaching, membership and equipment to women beginners in the Kingdom
  • Creation of the “Let It Fly” campaign taking golf to inner cities in Saudi Arabia
  • Support for over 20 golf course developments in the Kingdom, including designs by Greg Norman and Jack Nicklaus

And then there is the Golf Saudi Summit, the three-day meeting featuring 350 business and national leaders from 24 countries. Its goal was to showcase golf’s growth in Saudi Arabia and how it connects to Vision 2030. Featured guests included Norman and Gary Player.

This year, Performance54 opened up shop in the U.S. John Kawaja, former Honma and TaylorMade executive, is CEO of Performance54-Americas.

Reason to the Rhyme

While the relationships between Shiels, Finch, The Jazzy Golfer and Performance54 all predate the Sanabil investment, they continue today. Acushnet’s relationship, and the others mentioned above, also predate Sanabil. They also continue.

LIV is the most blatant Saudi foray into international golf but, as we have seen, it’s certainly not the only one. Therefore, it’s fair to ask why the Saudis are so invested in golf. The answer is both simple and obvious: Golf and business go hand-in-hand.

Just last month, the Middle East-focused business website Zawya.com reported at least 49 deals to invest in Saudi Arabia were signed in Q2 of this year. Those deals are worth upwards of $925 million. There’s a $133-million agreement with Dubai’s DP World (yes, that DP World) to build a shipping logistics center at the Port of Jeddah. There’s also a $37-million investment by MasterCard in the Saudi e-commerce firm HyperPay. Additionally, Zawya.com reports the Red Sea Development Company signed deals in May with the Ritz-Carlton, Hyatt and Rosewood to develop luxury resorts. And Hilton and Radisson have announced plans to build nearly 80 hotels in the Kingdom.

As mentioned, Vision 2030 is designed to increasingly diversify the Saudi economy. Golf and tourism are important elements of that plan, hence the Saudi Golf Summit and the other Performance54-led initiatives.

First in a Series

As the LIV/PGA story continues to develop, MyGolfSpy will be providing unique looks into this fascinating and polarizing story. In future segments, we’ll delve deeper into the Public Investment Fund and why the Saudis are investing so heavily in golf. We’ll also talk with a legendary sports agent who shares how he would counsel a client on LIV.

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      Media Watch

      2 years ago

      Trading Rolex sponsorships for Minecraft ads is the only thing that you should be reporting. The audience these video bloggers attract is worthless in the real world. Kids and part timers are not who big name sponsors want or need. Forget the Youtube video makers, and their fake sub numbers, they are a drop in the bucket and replaced every couple of years with someone else… The real story is how long will the Saudi’s spend billions for a few hundred thousand eyeballs?

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      Kevin

      2 years ago

      Many mens professional golf tours exist. Just to name a few: PGA Tour, DP World Tour, Japan Golf Tour, Korean Tour, PGA Tour China, Asian Tour, Canadian Tour, Sunshine Tour, PGA Tour of Australasia, Professional Golf Tour of India, Challenge Tour, Korn Ferry Tour, and the list goes on. Why does the PGA Tour vomit hate on LIV but not on any of these other tours? DP World Tour players are not banned from PGA events. Nor am I aware of bans against other tours. Again, the honest question: why does the PGA Tour hate on LIV so much? Why are PGA players leaving for LIV? Can any one of us honestly fault a person who changes jobs for better working conditions and 10x the pay for doing the same honest work? Plenty of others have already debunked human rights abuses, stock ownership principles, prejudice of labeling all citizens based on their nation, and other issues. It certainly seems the PGA Tour has something much deeper and personal that’s at the heart of their hate.
      Great article and good journalism. I’d love to see a follow up to answer my above questions.

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      Craig

      2 years ago

      The answer is pretty obvious, it’s about power and control. At the moment the PGATour is the big dog and all the other tours stand in line behind them. LIV has the money to change that, if they wanted to move from a series of events to a real tour. If they formed partnerships with a few of the tours you mentioned it would put a lot of pressure on the Euro/DP Tour, of which many memebers are already not happy about the current running of that tour, and LIV could potentially create another world tour, which DP currently is, and the European Tour would sink, robbing the PGATour of a major strategic partner, and then potentially ending up with the PGATour for US players and LIV Tour for the rest of the world. That is a disaster for the PGATour, although probably good for golf.

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      aztec

      2 years ago

      I really don’t get the outrage about the Saudi investment in LIV. They put up something like 2 or 3 billion, right? Why is there no similar outrage about their 26 billion stake in Lucid Air? I’ve heard the Saudis are trying to ‘sportwash’ their image with LIV. I guess their investment with Lucid is their attempt to ‘carwash’ their image, then? I think both these investments are just investments and not attempts at good PR.

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      Craig

      2 years ago

      I suspect Saudi have looked at UAE, which has used golf as a cornerstone of their modernisation and rebuilding of the country in the last 30 years, and want to go the same path. Scratch the surface of UAE and their human rights are not exactly pristine either, but it is now a major tourist destination and considered the most approachable Middle Eastern country by western standards. If SA can do that, coupled with their natural resources, will be a VERY powerful country going forward.

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      Six 8 Pete

      2 years ago

      I think my main thought now is not really why they created a new league or why someone joined it.
      It’s more why did you make the decision to go to a competitor but still want to play where you left.
      If you left Microsoft to work at Apple you can’t go back to work at MS on the weekends.
      Live with your choice to go to LIV.

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      Craig

      2 years ago

      Except of course, players have done that for 50 years. Rory, who seems to have become the PGATour’s spokesperson, is playing a different tour this week, and getting guarranteed money to appear.

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      N

      2 years ago

      The whole human rights thing gives the LIV Tour such as an easy out for their terrible format and ultimately diluting the spectacle of professional golf. As several commenters have pointed out, it’s stones in glass houses stuff to get into the human rights points because it becomes justified whataboutery with Emirates, China etc.

      My main contention with LIV is the fact that the format is terrible including their branding, presentation etc – just makes the sport feel less like professional Golf and more akin to the Rory and Tiger PGL idea and whilst there’s a place for that it shouldn’t be mixed in with actual golf tournaments that earn world ranking points. My hope is they fail on that hurdle and become nothing more than an alternative format for those that enjoy that kind of thing. The idea that having 36 hole cuts and players not making ‘enough’ is farcical – as we saw on the weekend where there is a strong field the cream will always rise to the top. It’s not as if LIV is offering equal opportunities for all golfers, merely only interested in already established players and just paying them more… the idea that it’s about growing the game is nonsense. For the love of god please no world ranking points for that farce.

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      Gordo

      2 years ago

      The article discusses the complex business arrangements of golf, never mind the golf OEMs attempting to market the” same” products-repackaged every “Model year”. Since attending a LIV Invitational (Bolton, MA), I won’t even entertain any of the “washed up golfer’s old folks’ home”. drivel any longer. The “shotgun start” is a fantastic use of a golf course because everyone has the same advantage/disadvantage of weather and time of day conditions. Not to mention, an attendee can see any player they want without waiting for his round to start. Trust me, guys like Cam Smith, Ancer and DJ are far from washed up.. The players are happy – because there’s no cut to be made (such a waste of time) and they are getting paid like other professional athlete would. An NFL, NHL or NBA player is paid for playing, not just for winning.. Finally, the “golf traditionalist” snobbery of today is NOT the history of competitive golf from Scotland in the days of Old Tom or Young Tom Morris. Read up on it – there wasn’t even Medal Play until the King of England had a Champion Golfer Medal made up for the golfers to play for…it was a Match Play game.

      I enjoyed the LIV event and think it will appeal to golf lovers, maybe not the snobs, so we’ll see haw many, of each, are out there buying equipment and taking up the game. Interest in golf is beginning to die off (four area courses in a ten mile radius have closed, forever) making the game enjoyable recreation and availability are keys for survival…it IS a game.

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      Mike

      2 years ago

      Great article. But to be truthful, no one I play with really has the time effort or interest to talk about LIV golf when we’re playing golf. And when we’re not playing, still, no one is really interested in millionaires getting more money. With the whole “human rights” argument, I’ve have been to China several times. They’re abuses are as egregious as the Saudis.

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      Geno4952

      2 years ago

      As a retired PGA professional I take exception to all these yoyos that can’t seem to get this PGA Tour thing right. It has absolutely nothing to do with the PGA. The PGA Tour split from the PGA of America in 1968 and has been it’s own entity since. So please let us get this right… this is the PGA TOUR vs LIV Golf not the PGA vs LIV Golf.
      Okay…. rant over
      Peace

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      Jon

      2 years ago

      Thank you!

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      Chris Tuohy

      2 years ago

      Excellent work John! Nice to see a fellow boomer showing those young pups what serious journalism and golf is all about. If the Saudis were really serious about buying golf they should be throwing $$$ at Paige Spirinac instead of Rick Sheils.

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      Plumbob

      2 years ago

      Great article. There is so much resistance to our loved golfers resigning to change employees,. There is a whole lot of emotion running around, this and it’s great see your story, trying to protect the truth. It would be a travesty if Rick and other YouTubers were negatively impacted because of poor reporting, so good on you MGS.

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      Greg

      2 years ago

      A nice review of where golf is going. It does have a history of being run in a duopoly fashion .With helms being R..A.N.D.A. and the U.S.G.A.
      They say they are developing golf for the world but nothing is further from the truth. It has got so bad it is near a monopoly for the U.S.G.A. and a definite oligopoly for the O.E.M.. They have had a good run with profits and if it were not for GOLFSPY we would still be hitting balls with conveyor belts in them.
      We all know they have cheated on everything they sell and warranty is hard to prove with lies on performance and reliability being almost impossible to prove. as it is all subjective .
      The game is now a oligopoly in the structure with Liv entering the scene.
      Players and Caddy’s could not be happier with conditions a far cry from the Duopoly turned into being so close to a monopoly by the USGA. The majors of the world are 3 for the US and 1 for the rest of the world. Seve blew his stack when they told him he had to play something like 27 events to keep his card. International players are ostracised and the exist to the doors by international players was a very easy decision. Norman like Rory and Tiger before him were the draw cards.
      .Liv golf has a lot of draw cards so they will survive.
      The Duopoly has been broken and a new brand of golf is being marketed .
      Will it stay this way ? I doubt it as the duopoly has a Gorilla in the room if they want to survive and become a oligopoly they should talk and settle what needs to be settled .other wise Liv may become the monopoly.
      The Liv tour will not sit around idle . Rule changes will come quickly. We need less rules not more rules ,we should not have to worry about having a team of big blokes move a loose impediment for the stars and the weekend hacker be called a cheat for not knowing the rules.
      Rules slows play down more drop zones and prefer lies why should we all have to hit out of other peoples divots or bunkers not raked Fair and equitable rules and not rules within rules that is a joke and so archaic it defies belief .
      There were originally Ten rules .and they have all been exploited with a rule within a rule..
      Every tv camera focused on the silly decision or bad luck that can cost a golfer a tournament . When in fact it would make no difference if it was fair.
      We the public want more but at what expense. Change is here and not before time. They ones that run it have rules and minds that belong back to the age of the troglodytes
      We are modern people with time commitment’s golf should be the same.

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      geno4952

      2 years ago

      Actually the first set of rules contained 13 rules in 1744. If you think today’s rules are bad consider the 1895 Golf Rules of THE ROYAL AND ANCIENT GOLF CLUB OF ST. ANDREWS. There were 40 rules with an additional 14 “special rules” for medal play and another 8 rules governing etiquette, so today’s 34 rules are a cakewalk compared to those of 1895. Just an FYI
      Peace

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      Bill

      2 years ago

      Great article and investigative work John! Much to my surprise, LIV golf actually got off the ground – I’d have lost money on that bet.

      While I dislike the Saudi’s history on human rights, they, sadly, do not have that market cornered. It is my hope that because they have chosen to invest in the sport, golf becomes the catalyst from which positive changes in human rights, in Saudi Arabia and beyond, begins. It has to start somewhere – why not through golf? Wouldn’t that be an ironic twist to this story as it continues to evolve?

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      daviddvm

      2 years ago

      Great article John!
      Learned a lot, very informative.
      Looks to me that the Saudi’s want to own and control golf around the world!

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      Dave Graham

      2 years ago

      Interesting read. I think you got one thing wrong though, I play 1-2 times a week and the guys I play with are all mid single digits or better. We never discuss pro golf (PGA or LIV) as none of us watch it. We are either playing, working or doing other things so do not have the time required. In the part of the world I live in this is fairly normal, most people barely notice the pro golf world, especially now Tiger is no longer a force. But the inroads into You Tube channel ownership are interesting as we all do follow some of that, but to be fair I’ve not seen much that either promotes or derides LIV Golf on any of those channels, so not sure what the ROI looks like for them so far.

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      Roy

      2 years ago

      Great under cover works! It’s all about money, players, TV rights, clothing, etc.
      It is way more back door to get a golf tour set up then I thought. Are there no faithful players to the PGA anymore? I guess they want more money, Kinda of like welfare..

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      Micah T

      2 years ago

      The current pga was formed by popular golfers of their time(ie Arnold Palmer and others) who wanted more money. There is nothing new under the sun. Everyone does business with someone who’s morals are questionable. Are the Saudi’s any worse than China? Who cares. Multinational corporations are just that, with everyone in bed with everyone. Do recent human rights violations matter more than those of a generation ago? 2 generations? Where is the line? How long should a country feel guilty? Are the saudis worse than colonial England? Jim Crow America? If you start down this wormhole it’ll never end.

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      Craig

      2 years ago

      Look at the PGATour leaderboard, everyone who doesn’t have a US flag joined that tour for money.

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      Ken

      2 years ago

      If everyone is up in arms about Saudi money being tied into golf, I suggest you all give up the sport since Saudi petroleum is used throughout the industry in equipment manufacturing. You’re all guilty.

      Maybe we should start to do golf ball performance tests comparing balls made with Saudi petroleum vs American petroleum next :D

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      Jason S

      2 years ago

      Great article.
      I look forward to more articles that show just how many of the OEMs and other predominate golf industry companies have Saudi money on their books.
      I also look forward to you showing how many of those same companies utilize China for manufacturing even though China is right up there at or near the top on the human rights violations list.
      “Blood money” is blanketed all across golf. Always has been. That makes so many of the more outspoken players against LIV such unbelievable hypocrites.

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      "Mr. 72"

      2 years ago

      I play golf with a few separate groups of people.
      LIV has only been brought up a few times early this summer…. This article is certainly informative.

      However, “LIV has and continues to be a topic on the tee box – but it’s affecting more than just professional golfers. That’s right. You’re in the mix.”

      To what exactly were you referring by stating we’re in the mix?

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      RT

      2 years ago

      Money is power…. But money isn’t all there is in such things as this ..This feels like the 1920’s and Al Capone … Will the PGA continue to stand and fight ? This just raises questions about opening up PGA by having more tournaments in new locations that allows for more players opportunity and not have it being a tier 4 league …It’s not only about “over the hill Phil” and the others that are losing their sharpness … I want to see the “Young Lions ” along with the established top tier players but father time will get to us all at some point… All will fall to age and skill loss and so it should be . Yes the PGA needs competition to get them to up date the system and expand. The .Points system needs change .. PGA MUST REVAMP AND HELP MORE YOUNG GUNS THAT WILL GET A CHANCE WITH MINOR LEAGUES REGION TOURNEY PAYOUT SO THEY ARE N’T STARVING WHILE TRYING TO COMPETE.. MORE TOURNEY LEAGUES FOR YOUNG CHILDREN “LIKE LITTLE LEAGUE ” ..IN ALL STATES ,COUNTIES, ETC…

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      Bob Pegram

      2 years ago

      Touring pro golfers are free agents and should be able to play in any tournament they qualify for. They have no employment contract with the PGA. The PGA pays them nothing if they don’t make the cut. Apparently because of LIV this is changing. Pros will be paid even if they don’t make the cut which is a HUGE change among other changes for next year.

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      Bob Pegram

      2 years ago

      Phil Mickelson is far from over the hill. He won the PGA Championship less than 1-1/2 years ago. He repeatedly easily won on the senior tour. After his PGA win (he learned to use a 47-1/2 inch driver which requires completely different swing timing), he got stabbed in the back by the PGA Tour who didn’t even have the fairness to let the player’s advisory board vote on whether the 48 inch limit should stand as is. Articles I have read indicate they likely would have been fine with the 48 inch rule remaining.

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      Ed

      2 years ago

      Did you believeLIV started without many years of planning and these guys were going to be part of it always?

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      RichZ

      2 years ago

      Golf is booming. Saudi Arabia wants to make money. Saudi Arabia is also invested in many large American tech companies and entertainment companies. Their investment in golf has nothing to do with “sport washing” and has everything to do with making money.

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      Tijoli

      2 years ago

      I am intrigued by the fact that DP World is in Dubai and led by Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem and that the company (DP World) has it’s headquarters in Dubai. I also read that it is owned by the ruling family in Dubai. After reading several articles, including information on Amnesty International, I don’t see much to differentiate between the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia in regards to human rights. Can someone explain the reason the PGA is willing to associate with DP World and not LIV? I’m not sure how I feel about LIV but I do have an issue with this stance by the PGA if it is as it seems.

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      Clay Nicolsen

      2 years ago

      I give up! I give up!

      Ok, I can no longer deny how much I enjoy your articles, and your reviews, and your insights, and your deep dives into the history of some of the world’s most famous golf companies.

      But this article has convinced me that MGS is the most valuable source of golf information in the world today. Period.

      Donated! I’m in!

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      MrHogan

      2 years ago

      Well researched and interesting article. Once again, you never fail to deliver John. Thx much..

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      Peter

      2 years ago

      Apparently some of these golf companies are just as “guilty” as the LIV players. No wonder none of them have pulled support from the players who joined LIV.

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      largechris

      2 years ago

      Successful youtube channels get investment from PR agency which is later brought by Saudi oil money? Is that the story?
      Wait until MSG finds out where 90% of golf equipment is made and their human rights record.

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      indyvic

      2 years ago

      I think they ‘know’ where the majority of clubs are made but don’t expect any revealing articles about China’s horrid human rights violations that are a common practice there to this day. No one seems to speak about companies like Nike and the ‘pros’ that are paid millions to walk around like billboards wearing their logo but like Rory and Tiger have negative comments about LIV golf.

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      Daryl Kariniemi

      2 years ago

      I always wondered why Rick Schiels never discussed the human rights element of LIV golf owners and this would explain why.

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      terry

      2 years ago

      Why should he? If you believe the PGA are squeaky clean you’re mistaken. for years they supported segregation. Phil’s gripe was they owned every bit of footage of him forever with no royalties whatsoever. Certainly see where MGS stand on the issue, firmly in bed with the PGA

      Bob Pegram

      2 years ago

      Bingo!

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      Steve G

      2 years ago

      This is really good work. Thanks for bringing it to our attention. Your thoroughness is much appreciated.

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      Getemgoose

      2 years ago

      This to me is the least of what’s at root of the “controversy”. A real deep dive would be to show who sponsors the events for the PGA and their ties to the “Saudi Butchers”. To me, this is all gossipy fluff between housewives.
      The largest issue held up are the “atrocities” the Saudi’s have committed (the stance the PGA has flouted to defame LIV, even to go as low to bring in 9/11). Really want to do “investigative journalism?” Give the names of companies who have ties to “Saudi’s blood money” and show how pathetic and hypocritical this whole slanderous march has been.

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      Guy

      2 years ago

      How much golf related stuff is made in China with a lot worse history when it comes to “human rights” but nobody gives a s+it. The companies that do business love it because labor is so cheap and readily available. This can be said for dam near every business I know but it’s ok. At least the Saudis are more so on our side vs China, Russia or Iran. LIV doesn’t bother anybody I’ve talked with from pga members, Club guys or regular weekend guys.

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      JJGolf

      2 years ago

      Guy… I have to agree with you, less about china and more about American jobs. When a driver is now $500 and irons are $140+ each, I feel the club companies have crossed the “mendoza line” of now they could make their product in the USA. Then there would be less reason to do deals with countries that don’t share our values.

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      Kevin

      2 years ago

      Not a big fan of the LIV golf. I think they’re trying to whitewash their reputation for human rights by throwing out piles of money. And I don’t think the new formats are “exciting” either. It’s like Arena football, who cares? We’ll see how this goes but it’ll take a couple of years.

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      Rob

      2 years ago

      What a well researched and written peice John. Again proof that MGS has the best golf writer in the business on staff.

      That said, my takewaway is it will be interesting to see where the relationship between not only the three YT’ers ‘ mentioned, goes, but also the other large compannies metnioned. go as well.

      The partnerships or working relationships beteen P54., PIF, SGF and Sanibal all seem very convuluted at this point. It will be intersting to flollow how they take shape. going forward.

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      Dave

      2 years ago

      Well done article. It goes to show that Saudi money is everywhere, very difficult to live our lives without interacting with a company who has Saudi investment in some way.
      This reason is why chastising LIV golfers for taking their money makes little sense. Same goes for the Youtubers mentioned, I don’t think they are doing anything wrong

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      M

      2 years ago

      I wish Americans would shut up see about Saudi human rights. I served in US military and America doesn’t care about it’s people. Flint, Michigan, Jackson, Mississippi the list goes on. Everyone in Congress knew the 9/11 hijackers were majority Saudi we turned a blind eye so we could get there oil. So please stop with fake self-righteousness BS. The Saudis were innovative with LIV pay structure now the PGA is trying anything to keep their monopoly going.

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      Charles

      2 years ago

      This was a great beginning to a long story that I hope will continue with the inside dealings of the PGA Tour and Saudi and how their “innocent pretense” will be dealt a severe blow when all their behind the scenes negotiating with Suadi and China is exposed.

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      Marcus

      2 years ago

      As an avid golf fan who enjoy all forms of golf but it really bothers me that Mygolfspy took the time to dig into LIV background without doing the same for the PGAT. I’m absolutely positive if you investigated both LIV and PGAT that thier social media propaganda and Saudi enrolment are almost equal. For some strange reason us Americans have been conditioned that we must choose a side and hate or dislike the opposition. I challenge you and your editorial team to be unbiased when reporting in the future..

      Thank in advance for reading my response and MYGOLFSPY ROCK!!!!!!

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      Paul

      2 years ago

      Just a general comment about LIV and these golfers. My issue is the majority of these guys are already millionaires so their greed has been shown by their actions.. And great, if you can live with the blood money and that is your thing, go for it.. But leave the PGA TOUR/DP Tour and their tournaments and Majors out of it., Start your cute little boys club for washed up golfers or those who feel they don’t have the game to compete against the best in the world. NO world ranking points for 54 no cut events vs. The standard 72 hole hole events that have a cut after 36.
      Take your money, play your music and shotgun a few beers, maybe play barefoot and shirtless, and enjoy yourself. But those events and people are not on the same level with PROFESSIONALS and they should be viewed as nothing more than really good AMATUER golfers.

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      Pete

      2 years ago

      Paul,
      Best reply on the board, and I think most fans of the real professional golf tour feel exactly as we do, PGA Tour vs. LIV – Apples / Oranges…..O World Ranking Points for LIV = No Majors as it should be.

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      Rich Easton

      2 years ago

      Well researched article on the LIV golf tentacles. In the end, I just come to the conclusion of “ So What”. The article read like a conspiracy theory. To me, what would be interesting is the projection of where the golf tour industry is heading. Is LIV golf an industry disrupter, a disruption, or a short term distraction. I don’t care where money comes from , particularly if it’s not laundered. I do, however , care about the future and health of the game I love.

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      Edmund Woronicz, PGA

      2 years ago

      Brilliant investigative journalism John! Well done and extremely interesting. Keep up the great work.

      Reply

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