LIV’s Latest Survival Ploy Makes No Sense
News

LIV’s Latest Survival Ploy Makes No Sense

Support our Mission. We independently test each product we recommend. When you buy through our links, we may earn a commission.

LIV’s Latest Survival Ploy Makes No Sense

This whole LIV scene reminds me of the Underpants Gnomes of South Park.

The Gnomes had a business plan. Step 1 was to collect underpants. Step 3 was profit.

Step 2? They weren’t sure yet. Rest assured that meetings would be called and committees would be formed to uncover an answer.

LIV has collected golfers and headlines. Hey, Step 1 is already done!

They want to be profitable. A real golf league and a functioning business now that Saudi Public Investment Fund is no longer bankrolling them. That’s Step 3.

Step 2remains a question mark—but they have a concept of a plan.

LIV is trying to fundraise $250 million

According to a report by Dan Primack in Axios, LIV Golf is seeking to raise $250 million from new investors in order to save the league.

The league, which has lost several billion dollars since launching in 2022, claims it can reach profitability in just 20 months should it get the $250 million.

If that doesn’t come to fruition and LIV only raises, let’s say $170 million, the league will apparently be reliant on “rising team values and a new media rights deal” in order to reach profitability.

Now, let’s just break this down by common sense.

LIV has had four years with unlimited funds. Sure, you wouldn’t expect any “startup” to be profitable in the short term but the league never showed any reasonable signs of growth that would make you believe it could be profitable despite a bottomless wallet.

And before the Saudis left, LIV CEO Scott O’Neil said the league was five to 10 years away from profitability. That was with endless cash. Now they are 20 months away from profitability on a shoestring budget?

TV ratings? Never above 500,000 for any round in the U.S.

A media rights deal? The revenue from the Fox Sports partnership is described as “nominal” so it’s not exactly the $700-million deal the PGA Tour has.

Corporate sponsorship? A drop in the bucket from a few brands like Rolex but it’s very limited.

I mean, what part of this endeavor has been even remotely successful from a business standpoint? The Australian and South African events were well attended but the corporate money for golf tournaments is in the U.S. The DP World Tour would be way more stable and lucrative if that wasn’t the case.

Even in the event of LIV being able to fundraise $250 million—and it’s certainly possible someone out there is desperate or naive enough to throw around money like that—I’m highly skeptical it will be profitable at any point.

They will need to pay more than $250 million just to get Bryson DeChambeau back. Love him or hate him, he is the biggest draw for LIV.

How does this make any business sense?

And the franchise values? I’ll concede that a few of the superstar-led teams have something of a fledgling brand because of the players associated with them—such as DeChambeau with the Crushers—but who the hell cares about the Cleeks or Southern Guard? I think the D-III college down the road from me has a better chance at forming a meaningful brand.

What are the odds LIV stays alive?

There are some stubborn people in the LIV stable and billionaires investing in sports is definitely hot right now.

But one thing needs to be made clear here: LIV’s survival will rely entirely on its ability to secure a new media rights deal once its modest one with Fox Sports ends (the exact terms of the deal were not disclosed but LIV is currently in the second year of that partnership).

You can raise money and the league can maybe stay alive into 2027 but there will be no money to play for unless that rights deal is meaningful. Media rights are the financial lifeblood of every sports league.

It’s fair to say corporate sponsors might become more interested now that LIV isn’t associated with Saudi Arabia. There could be an opportunity there.

At the same time, it seems inevitable that purses will be declining sharply from the $30 million they are playing for now. The top talent won’t stand for that.

Can LIV survive? I highly doubt it. The math is not mathing.

What do you think? Let me know in the comments below.

Top Photo Caption: Lucas Herbert gets sprayed with champagne after winning LIV Virginia. (GETTY IMAGES/Tasos Katopodis)

For You

For You

Instruction
Jul 3, 2026
Viktor Hovland’s Swing Works For Him But Copying It Could Wreck Your Game
News
Jul 3, 2026
Scratch By 50: State Of The Game, Part Two
News
Jul 3, 2026
The Tool Every Range Rat Should Have
Sean Fairholm

Sean Fairholm

Sean Fairholm

Sean is a longtime golf journalist and underachieving 10 handicap who enjoys the game in all forms. If he didn't have an official career writing about golf, Sean would spend most of his free time writing about it anyway. When he isn't playing golf, you can find Sean watching his beloved Florida Panthers hockey team, traveling to a national park or listening to music on his record player. He lives in Nashville with his wife, Anja, and dog, Hogan.

Sean Fairholm

Sean Fairholm

Sean Fairholm

My 7 Favorite Emerging Trends In Golf
Jun 30, 2026 | 27 Comments
The 7 Most Annoying Trends In Golf
Jun 26, 2026 | 139 Comments
The 10 Best Active Players Without A Major
Jun 24, 2026 | 5 Comments
Sean Fairholm

Sean Fairholm

Sean Fairholm

 
Sean Fairholm

Sean Fairholm

Sean Fairholm





    This site is protected by reCAPTCHA and the Google Privacy Policy and Terms of Service apply.

      William Munny

      1 month ago

      There is nothing compelling about LIV golf. No one cares about the prize money. That’s not why the PGA is compelling. It’s the competition. No one cares about how much money NFL or NBA players are making. People watch because of the competition. There was no compelling competition in LIV events. It was a scam from the get-go. Where’s the compelling storyline? There isn’t one.

      Reply

      Rob B.

      2 months ago

      This is the first article that I’ve seen that really goes into the business side of LIV and what their true prospects are. We know a few things, but LIV is incredibly vague about what’s really going on behind the scenes. But the plan to raise $250M banks on selling minority equity in the team franchises. LIV claims that two of the existing franchises are profitable, and these are the ones they will look to sell shares. But what really is revenue for a LIV franchise? It’s three components: branded merch sales, sponsorships, and team winnings. Those first two have to be minimal and surely don’t even cover travel costs for the team. The team winning component is interesting because it comes from LIV and not an external source. LIV recently increased the team award from $8M to $10M presumably to inflate team revenue. But if LIV needs to survive on $250 for the next 20 months, clearly the pot for a team win would likely be reduced to under $2M (if we’re being generous). So if the valuation is built on the current PIF-funded payout of $10M but future payouts would be just a fraction of that, what investor would accept today’s valuation without laughing? That is literally a ponzi scheme.

      Let’s go another step. LIV claims the team valuations are in the $300M range. Crushers GC has won 8 team events, so lets put them at $20M in annual “revenue”. That would be over a 10x valuation on revenue based purely on the chances of the team winning. But if that dries up to $2M in annual “revenue” you’re looking at a 100x valuation. None of this math makes any sense for even the most optimistic freewheeling investor. When the Saudi’s, who have no pressure to return anything on their investment back out after $6B, no rational human being would put a penny into this new venture. Bye LIV.

      Reply

      Sean

      2 months ago

      LIV is an idiotic concept. You cannot confect interest in team events like this. It is this laughable Americanised franchise element that no one cares about.
      The names are incredibly stupid and embarrassing, you can’t have any affinity with the teams and you simply don’t and cannot care about it.

      If they wanted to try and generate some sort of interest, at the very least it needed to be divided into teams of what country they’re from.

      The music is toe curling, the commentary is nauseating and it has no redeeming features at all.

      Perhaps the only thing it does which is good for golf is allowing the players to wear shorts.

      Reply

      JFMCC

      2 months ago

      The maths is way off.
      $300m for prize money alone. Then there is what Bryson wants to keep playing in 2027, plus the sign-ons for the other 53 players, back office staff and CEO, tournament staff, commentary teams, set up crews, and the travel.
      More like 5 x $250m per investor for a year. No way $250m alone cuts the mustard, or works towards profitability in 10-20 months.
      It will be sad to see it go. LIV Golf gave us another set of tournaments to watch in a fun format. But it can’t survive on $250m a year.

      Reply

      Mike

      1 month ago

      Many of the new things that LIV tried were interesting, even if time has proved they didn’t work. Basketball ‘purists’ laughed at the ABA’s 3 point shot…until the NBA adopted it. I don’t begrudge any of the players who took big $ to join LIV, but I just can’t imagine looking at it from a business standpoint & thinking it w/b a great investment for them.

      Reply

      Dean D

      2 months ago

      The net benefit to PGA Tour players purses was good for them. Killing less profitable events & the Caste system seems like a ruthless Saudi type decision without the bone saws.

      One highly competitive tour with the best players is a win for players & fans.

      Having to refer to divisive politics in every post is just sad.

      Reply

      Allen Blake

      2 months ago

      People who are trying to establish team golf are not going about it the correct way, imo. College sports are already pretty confounded anyway, so why not capitalize on a fan base for team sports that already exists. Just have professional teams as an extension for the players that graduate from participating universities. If you have 10 on the team, some number will have had to come from that university. The balance can be filled via a portal or draft. Play a 2 or 3 day event with different formats each day. The teams are owned by investors and the represented university gets a share of the pie. Anyway, long way of saying there are already fan bases out there that will pull for “their” team! Smarter people than me can figure out the details….LOL My 2 cents.

      Reply

      Hongman

      2 months ago

      LIV as a televised media product was always destined for failure, seemingly bottomless investor pockets or not. Although it was for me personally, the general public’s concerns about Sports washing was probably not the major factor affecting LIV’s demise, as other Saudi sports washing efforts like F1 seem to be acceptable for public consumption…

      Let’s face it… Golf on TV is only modestly compelling to the General Public, save the majors and possibly Ryder Cup…LIV’s product wasn’t going to change that public perception and reality…. LIV’s product sucked and therefore, did not resonate with the golf viewing public or potential media suitors, no matter the Trumpeted purse sizes or player compensation packages. The last time I clicked into a LIV Event telecast out of curiosity a few weeks ago (for like 5 minutes), it looked like there were only 100-200 spectators ON THE GOLF COURSE..!! Good luck raising $250 million…!

      Reply

      EBM

      2 months ago

      One would assume that all current LIV players would receive no more money if any owed, would receive LIV equity shares only. Perhaps purses in 2027 would be for LIV equity shares only. Understand travel and caddie support was pretty extensive, probably cuts there also.

      Saudis tried to buy their way into a Not For Profit business that had no barriers to entry except brand loyalty, employee loyalty and US laws. Saudi sued on anti trust grounds, Tour wanted to depose Saudi leaders, MBS etc, they refused, suit stopped.

      The marketplace, specifically the US marketplace. No place for LIV golf in traditional golf season. Perhaps Internationally in US fall and winter months.

      Reply

      TJ

      2 months ago

      I don’t think that even 50,000 watched, let alone 500,000..

      Reply

      Merf

      2 months ago

      Good overall assessment. Happy to weigh in. Since LIV didn’t manage against a P&L, it’s difficult to assign valuation. Problem #1. #2 is the talent pool at LIV is weak. That’s been proven for years as most LIVers struggle when they play the majors, save for 2-3 exceptions such as Rahm, Reed and Bryson, but that’s not guaranteed either as we’ve seen before. Rahm had a good PGA but has been irrelevant for a few years. Reed’s a good villain, yes, but that also works against him (just google golf cheaters). Same with Cam Smith, DJ, etc. The rest aren’t a draw of any kind. #3, to your point, reduced funding will mean reduced purses and if very few golf spectators cared to begin with, less will care with less money on the line. And..those that can still compete over there will defect, and quickly. Net, net…the big mistake was not managing to a P&L from the start, but if they did, no one of any value would have jumped to LIV, so i guess PIF had no choice if they wanted to get in the game. LIV should RIP, so we can move on from this mess. And penalize any and all golfers who want back into the PGA for legitimizing that league in the first place.

      Reply

      DaveT

      2 months ago

      Get a golf influencer on every LIV team, let them use footage from the actual tournament, actually engage wioth how people watch golf (outside of the majors who watches tournaments v youtube content). Do the things the PGA won’t do, instead of trying to copy them.
      OR trying and get someone to give you a billion dollars and do the same thing again and hope for a better result.

      Reply

      ericsokp

      2 months ago

      LIV has always reminded me of World Team Tennis back in the mid-70’s (I grew up in Southern California and our team was the LA Strings). In my opinion, golf (like tennis) is an individual sport that just doesn’t lend itself to made-up teams (Ryder Cup and Presidents Cup not withstanding). Even college golf is superior to LIV because at least the players are attached to a school with some history & pride behind it. As the author states, who cares about The Cleeks or Southern Guard?

      Reply

      Sean

      2 months ago

      The Presidents Cup is woeful. The Ryder Cup is the only one that has any credibility.

      Reply

      Dave R.

      2 months ago

      The entire concept was flawed from the get-go. The Saudi’s paid $1B a year allegedly to build credibility in the world (sportwashing) and restore a tarnished reputation. To some extent it had the opposite effect by resurfacing the issues with all the negative comments around blood money. The Saudis are already engaged with sports like international football, DP world tour golf, LPGA, F1 motorsports, etc, and I doubt the investment in LIV had any more positive outcomes than the other ventures. Clearly the PIF decided it wasn’t worth the investment, and I can’t believe anyone will think that its a good investment purely from a financial perspective.

      Reply

      Hopp Man

      2 months ago

      Stupid people invest in stupid things all the time, like watches, shoes, cell phones, meme coins, digital NFT trading cards, just to name a few that are being hawked by a certain orange grifter, so somebody could certainly buy liv, maybe even the orange huckster himself so he can make money on his golf courses at the publics expense.

      Reply

      Moose

      2 months ago

      He won’t purchase it using his money he will say that the money is coming from private companies and then say that for security reasons he needs to get more money and have the taxpayers pay for it. I also would not be surprised if the treasonous January 6th rioters that he pardoned and now are waiting for their slush fund payment try to purchase it. Sad times

      Reply

      Clark J

      2 months ago

      If you need more conspiracy theories, I’ve got a couple I’ll sell you.

      Johnny Utah

      2 months ago

      You should see a doctor about your TDS infection.

      Moose

      2 months ago

      I love how Johnny Utah thinks that people have TDS. TDS is what he has for believing his fat orange blob is not the most corrupt politician ever. Tell me Johnny was January 6th a peaceful protest? Was McCain a loser for serving his country and getting captured? Do you pay people you say you never had sex with over $100k? If you say that you are a germs phobic why do you brag about grabbing women and kissing them anytime that you want? Where are the Epstein Files?

      Thomas A

      2 months ago

      Speak the truth, Moose. Johnny Utah is the one with Trump Derangement Syndrome.

      Aidan

      2 months ago

      Anyone that mentions TDS is just telling everyone that they are a complete moron who only know what they read in memes

      Dan Coakley

      2 months ago

      I get from your article that LIV was created as a follow-up episode for Gnomes on South Park. Really Good Call.

      Reply

      Fake

      2 months ago

      I know that people with money like to play with it, but in what world does a millionaire/billionaire look at LIV and say “This sounds like a good idea” instead of investing in one of the major sports teams, or even buying their own country club?

      Reply

      LW

      2 months ago

      Can LIV Golf survive?

      Short answer: No

      Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

      Reply

    Leave A Reply

    required
    required
    required (your email address will not be published)

    This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Learn how your comment data is processed.

    Instruction
    Jul 3, 2026
    Viktor Hovland’s Swing Works For Him But Copying It Could Wreck Your Game
    News
    Jul 3, 2026
    Scratch By 50: State Of The Game, Part Two
    News
    Jul 3, 2026
    The Tool Every Range Rat Should Have